१० मार्च, २०११

Abe Sauer — at The Awl — attempting disrespect toward Gov. Scott Walker, displays his ignorance of American military history and its great mascot Old Abe.

Abe Sauer thought he was insulting Scott Walker when he began his description of last week's budget address like this: "Wisconsin governor Scott Walker's budget address was delivered beneath a dead and stuffed eagle." Above that line is a photograph framing the Governor and the eagle. The simplest effort at Googling — e.g., eagle in wisconsin assembly chamber — would have gotten Abe to the story of Old Abe:
Old Abe (1861? – March 28, 1881), bald eagle, was the mascot of the 8th Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry Regiment in the American Civil War and is the screaming eagle mascot depicted on the insignia of the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division....

Company C named the eagle after President Abraham Lincoln, and designed a special perch on which they carried the bird into battle. Old Abe participated in the Second Battle of Corinth (in which the 8th Wisconsin lost half of its men) and the Siege of Vicksburg, among other battles. In battle, Old Abe quickly became legendary, screaming and spreading his wings at the enemy. Confederate troops called him the "Yankee Buzzard" and made several attempts to capture him but never succeeded. Several times he lost feathers to bullets and saw his handlers get shot out from under him. When passing by, Generals Ulysses S. Grant, William T. Sherman, and William Rosecrans were known to doff their hats to the eagle.

In 1864, Old Abe returned to Wisconsin with several veterans who did not reenlist. Nevertheless, he remained famous and was invited to, among other events, the 1880 Grand Army of the Republic National Convention, and the 1876 Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. When not at public events, his caretaker kept him in the Wisconsin State Capitol.
That storied creature is for Abe Sauer just some absurdity that Awl readers should laugh at. Laugh at the stupid people in Wisconsin who think there's some meaning embodied in the carcass of a bird.

Crushing ignorance from Abe Sauer.

IN THE COMMENTS: "But Old Abe's carcass indeed is gone."

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Henry म्हणाले...

The Massachusetts State House has a carved Cod, equally historic.

I don't know if Rhode Island has any equivalent symbol, though we have a very nice state flag.

The Dude म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Gabriel Hanna म्हणाले...

It's easy to bait the half-educated into revealing their ignorance; it's because they think they're so self-evidently smart.

Case in point: Party like it's 1773.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Sixty Grit,

He's just doing what he does best.

Yea, this is one of those things that screams "pity" rather than "scorn".

Poor Abe.

Known Unknown म्हणाले...

Sauerkraut Balls.

Get some.

Gabriel Hanna म्हणाले...

And what's with that beat-up old flag at the National Museum of American History? Did the Republicans cut the budget so badly they can't afford a new one? It's an outrage, I tell you.

http://americanhistory.si.edu/about/ssb.cfm

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Gabriel Hanna,

It's easy to bait the half-educated into revealing their ignorance; it's because they think they're so self-evidently smart.

Case in point: Party like it's 1773.


Or this - I'm very proud of this.

TWM म्हणाले...

That Abe Sauer, like most liberals, is ignorant of our history is not suprising, nor is lack of intellectual curiosity in researching the history of Old Abe. Or maybe he did and it just didn't fit his narrative.

Amy म्हणाले...

The Awl was a suggested link on my Flipboard feed. I loaded it on, but haven't read it yet. Now I can delete it without even bothering.

J Lee म्हणाले...

Ann, do you really believe Abe has much respect for American history, other than for his own personal view of it? Everything else is fodder for snarkiness.

tree hugging sister म्हणाले...

It doesn't get much cooler than that, as history goes.

No, sir.

अनामित म्हणाले...

No, Althouse, you're the one that is crushing ignorance. It's your gift.

Simon म्हणाले...

To paraphrase Cardinal Newman, to be deep in our history is to cease to be a liberal. The converse holds, too.

Dose of Sanity म्हणाले...

Well played Althouse. That's a great story that I never knew about that Eagle - glad to learn it.

kent म्हणाले...

"Crushing ignorance from Abe Sauer."

There are Rascal Flatts fan sites with more wit and political insight available therein than this mouth breather's amped-up "AOL Kids" page.

KCFleming म्हणाले...

Nice take-down, Althouse.

In the year of our Ford 2011, Abe Sauer repeats His beautiful and inspired saying: "History is bunk.

“O brave new world,
” he cries, “O brave new world that has such people in it. Let’s start at once.”"

Paddy O म्हणाले...

"That Abe Sauer, like most liberals, is ignorant of our history is not suprising"

As Shiloh has explicitly informed us in a past thread, actual knowledge of the history of a subject or issue is a non sequitur to expressing judgment on an issue or subject.

Paddy O म्हणाले...

nice quote (or paraphrase at least), Simon

mrs whatsit म्हणाले...

Where's eatbees? Where's FLS? They should be here complaining about how stupid it is to fetishize a dead eagle and how anybody who cares about eagles ought to be volunteering at a raptor center instead . Counting down, 5, 4, 3, 2 . . .

WV: owlig! Who writes these things?

kent म्हणाले...

VIDEO: Democrat staff engineered mob’s unlawful invasion of Wisconsin Capitol Building

Both Meade and the Professor are cited extensively, throughout.

gloogle म्हणाले...

Now that was an ass whippin'.

Well done Ms. Althouse.

TLM म्हणाले...

AA,

Might as well give it up. The intellectually lazy Abe at the Awl is immune to any sense of shame.

BTW, I live in New England and have no connection to Wisconsin, but I've heard of Old Abe before... from my attorney (a UW grad). Has a picture of the bird in his office, I believe.

Wince म्हणाले...

Sauer portrays Walker as some kind of Psycho.

"I suppose you'd call this his hide away..."

Fred4Pres म्हणाले...

I wish to register a complaint...

अनामित म्हणाले...

The Professor has burned the Sauer-kraut and it's not even lunchtime yet....yow!

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

I thought Old Abe's carcass was consumed in the unfortunate fire of 1904.

JAL म्हणाले...

Didn't someone say for a liberal history starts new every day?

Fred4Pres म्हणाले...

Sorry about my post above, I could not resist. Thanks for the information on Ol' Abe.

garage mahal म्हणाले...

It's easy to bait the half-educated into revealing their ignorance; it's because they think they're so self-evidently smart.

I assume you're talking about our governor who flunked out of college, got caught cheating, and was told to leave with his 2.5 gpa. No wonder he hates teachers and the rule of law.

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

Glad to know my memory is not gone.

But Old Abe's carcass indeed is gone. The Wisconsin State Historical Society still has a couple feathers, however.

I think the stuffed Eagle is a tribute to old Abe.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

He dissed Old Abe? How dare he? Old Abe was a big deal when I was a kid.

Anna म्हणाले...

For the story of Old Abe and the 8th Wisconsin -

http://www.nps.gov/vick/historyculture/8th-wisconsin-infantry-union.htm

Pictures of the Wisconsin memorial at Vicksburg -

http://www.nps.gov/vick/historyculture/wisconsin-troops-us.htm

Irene म्हणाले...

He's also dipping into the rote maneuver of painting Republican female politicians as whores, giving Kleefisch a treatment that only Palin usually would merit:

"In a red suit that screamed 'Look at me, fuckers' Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch worked the Republican side of the assembly like a brothel's madam. From the way she bawdily glad-handed among the Republican leadership..."

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

Abe was the "screaming eagle". Eagles when hunting always work in tactical pairs, with one only a few hundred feet in the air screaming at the rodents below until they run for cover. The other eagle is two thousand feet higher circling nearly invisible to the prey, until it sees the target running away and then drops on it while the target's attention was on the low circling screaming eagle. That sounds like Walker's tactics that dropped an unseen bill from out of nowhere last night. Now the rodents are scrambling all over the Capitol and wondering what hit them, all because they listened to the wrong eagle that was screaming reports of a sure Union victory.

I'm a Shaaaaark म्हणाले...

Of course, in the very same post, Ol' Sauer also referred to your state's Lt. Gov. as "working the room like a brothel madame" because he's a sexist prick, too.

kent म्हणाले...

"Before the election, the Democrats promised "adult leadership" in Madison. Then a month and a half into session, the Senate Democrats fled the state instead of doing their job.

[...]

"This afternoon, following a week and a half of line-by-line negotiation, Sen. Miller sent me a letter that offered three options: 1) keep collective bargaining as is with no changes, 2) take our counter-offer, which would keep collective bargaining as is with no changes, 3) or stop talking altogether."


"Rule of law," as per garage.

*snort*

I'm a Shaaaaark म्हणाले...

P.S.

SEIU is on its way to Wisconsin so I hope you all enjoy purple.

अनामित म्हणाले...

"I assume you're talking about our governor who flunked out of college, got caught cheating, and was told to leave with his 2.5 gpa. No wonder he hates teachers and the rule of law."

He's besting you.... It stings doesn't it?

Simon म्हणाले...

Paddy, he said it about protestantism on his conversion, but we can stipulate for the sake of argument that the similarities stop with ahistoricism. :p

I'm a Shaaaaark म्हणाले...

He's besting you.... It stings doesn't it?

Isn't it funny how often these supposed "intellectual superiors" always seem to get bested/beaten/pwned by people they constantly refer to as stupid/idiots/morons/etc?

For some reason that cracks me up every time it happens LOL

अनामित म्हणाले...

Cool story, traditionalguy, sort of like live drones.

garage mahal म्हणाले...

"Rule of law," as per garage.

The rule of law isn't just what Scott Walker or Scott Fitzgerald say it is. The constitutionality of the budget repair bill to begin with, the Assembly vote at 1:00am where Republicans reached over and voted for absent legislators, and the vote yesterday that clearly broke the open meetings law, not to mention voting on a bill that has fiscal impacts without a quorum. No idea what Republicans were thinking on this, but it isn't going to fly in Wisconsin.

Simon म्हणाले...

garage mahal said...
"I assume [Gabriel is] talking about our governor who flunked out of college, got caught cheating, and was told to leave with his 2.5 gpa."

A few years ago, I was sitting in a restaurant on the fourth of July, and at the table next to us, a beefy southern fellow was railing about how General Grant was a drunk, a womanizer, a bad general—all that jazz, you know. And if I hadn't been quite confident of his ability and inclination to snap me like a twig—a mountain sat or stumbled—I might have pointed out that tearing down Grant doesn't help his case: The worse the picture drawn of Grant by unreconstructed confederates, the worse their side looks, because sober or drunk, Grant still outwitted their boys. If I wanted to paint a sympathetic portrait of the South's plight, I would tell people that we never really had a chance when Grant was not only the greatest military tactician in history, but a giant transforming robot T-rex sent from the future by Doc Brown to free the slaves. When you get the snot beaten out of you, it doesn't make you look tough to say the other guy had one hand tied behind his back.

I mention all this because it seems that you have put yourself in the same position as that southerner from the restaurant. Is Walker a dummy? A womanizer? (A drunk?) He may be none of those things. But even if he is all of them, he still outwitted your boys.

DADvocate म्हणाले...

Amazing how Demon-crats and teachers hate the rule of law and democracy (and constitutional republics for you nit pickers).

अनामित म्हणाले...

It's still a dead and stuffed eagle.

DADvocate म्हणाले...

Good points, Simon. garage seems to only appreciate conformists that follow lock step in his rigid little view of what matters. Grant essentially had one great skill, being a general.

The world is abundant with people who didn't excel in school or other system but are wonderfully successful in many ways and contribute more than those whose thinking and world view are restricted to what they were taught in school.

अनामित म्हणाले...

You should get one of those for your classroom. New Abe, the Legal Eagle.

deborah म्हणाले...

Battle of the news sources.

garage mahal म्हणाले...

He may be none of those things. But even if he is all of them, he still outwitted your boys.

By beating people over the head, violating laws, and ramming bills against what people in the state want? They're dragging off duty cops, firefighters, and anyone else out of the Capitol as we speak. Wisconsin right now may as well be fucking Libya.

Chennaul म्हणाले...

Someone should have told Abe Sauer it was-

The Condor of Calabasas.

Issob Morocco म्हणाले...

Willfully dense and thick, methinks.

Chennaul म्हणाले...

Wisconsin right now may as well be fucking Libya.

Come on garage that kind of hyperbole is beyond...

Isn't it?

edward म्हणाले...

garage,
jumping the shark rather early to day arn't we?

Is that all they've got over at KOS and DU?...............Scheeesh

But remember conservative boys and girls...... the left is sooooo much smarter than you are because they listen to NPR.......

Hey garage the topic was Ade the Eagle...... you know the topic of the thread.......

kent म्हणाले...

Wisconsin right now may as well be fucking Libya.

Norma Desmond's greatest performance.

Unknown म्हणाले...

When history is inconvenient for the Lefties, they rewrite it.

I'm a Shaaaaark said...

P.S.

SEIU is on its way to Wisconsin so I hope you all enjoy purple.


Now it's not going to be so civil.

TWM म्हणाले...

"Wisconsin right now may as well be fucking Libya."

I see that Libya is replacing Nazi Germany as the go-to jump the shark comparison nowadays.

It's nice to have a change.

Simon म्हणाले...

garage mahal said...
"Wisconsin right now may as well be fucking Libya."

That's true. When you think about it, the parallels are haunting: Like Khaddafi, Walker seized power in a coup d'etat during the cold war, and has stayed in power for decades using ruthless and sometimes violent repression of the population. Recent weeks provide a case in point: Like Khaddafi, Walker has responded to protests by sending in tanks, artillery, and air strikes. Who can number the dead in the streets of Madison? Who can gainsay the bravery of those Wisconsin freedom fighters rising up against this tyrant? I for one applaud your courage.

Phil 314 म्हणाले...

Wisconsin right now may as well be fucking Libya.

The governor has sent in air strikes!? Gosh, I must've missed that one.

Crimso म्हणाले...

If things are as bad in WI as they are in Libya, then Walker needs to call out the WI National Guard ASAP. I think the unruly element will find them to be unfriendly and unamused.

JAL म्हणाले...

Simon -- it's nice to have you back. (If you are Simon of a couple years ago. If not, it's nice to have you here.)

kent म्हणाले...

That's true. When you think about it, the parallels are haunting: Like Khaddafi, Walker seized power in a coup d'etat during the cold war, and has stayed in power for decades using ruthless and sometimes violent repression of the population. Recent weeks provide a case in point: Like Khaddafi, Walker has responded to protests by sending in tanks, artillery, and air strikes. Who can number the dead in the streets of Madison? Who can gainsay the bravery of those Wisconsin freedom fighters rising up against this tyrant? I for one applaud your courage.

Purest awesome. ;)

Alex म्हणाले...

garage mahal said...
"Wisconsin right now may as well be fucking Libya."

The purest form of insanity on display. Today the people of Wisconsin get to see it all on full!

Alex म्हणाले...

Guys - stop bashing garbage. He's obviously out of his gourd. Let's pray for him!

Clairvius Narcisse म्हणाले...

methinks althouse has a crush on abe. does laurence know?

JAL म्हणाले...

@ garage (why do we bother?) No wonder he hates teachers and the rule of law.

Who is it who hates the rule of law? Score keeping is such a drag. Your men and women were the ones who refused to vote on a bill that was going to be lawfully sent their way. And how about those lying "role models" you now have teaching the children in WI schools?

Not to mention how you guys use "hate" is such a nuanced, sophisticated, smart, well educated, and well mannered way.

Toad Trend म्हणाले...

@garbage

"By beating people over the head, violating laws, ..."

Hey, whats a little 'disorder' among friends?

"Wisconsin right now may as well be fucking Libya."

Why all the drama, old boy? This thing is played, you'll get over it. You'll find another losing cause to back.

harkin म्हणाले...

My jr high english teacher would have drawn a red line through "dead and" and then asked me how many live stuffed eagles I had seen.

Unknown म्हणाले...

Hipsters don't Google ever since it got popular.

Alex म्हणाले...

Hipsters use Lycos.

bgates म्हणाले...

Wisconsin right now may as well be fucking Libya

Shows how smart he is.

It's spelled "Lybia".

There are remarkable similarities. The governments to the north have decided to throw in their lot with the opposition; the French Canadians are going to send in their entire air force, as soon as they find some fresh AA batteries for the remote control.

Of course, the parallel would be more exact if there were an octogenarian strongman who had recently been forced out of power to the east, but they're both hanging on.

Ralph L म्हणाले...

The Awl also has this completely deceptive Althouse-bait headline:

Men Should Not Wear Shorts. That Is All.

Ralph L म्हणाले...

I suspect most of Wisconsin would rather be fucking labia. Nothing queer about Wisconsin.

Cosmo म्हणाले...

But wait, according to now-former NPR fundraising exec Ron Schiller, it is liberals who are the educated, too-small percentage in America, not "the rest of us."

Good ole Abe Sauer. Bucking the self-glossed stereotype.

Unknown म्हणाले...

well said, Ann.
And I live on Bald Eagle Lane and last night there was one sitting on a tree limb above the yard. This in Northern Virginia.

algie म्हणाले...

algie commented on Sour Sauer

Abe Sauer said

"In a red suit that screamed 'Look at me, fuckers' Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch worked the Republican side of the assembly like a brothel's madam. From the way she bawdily glad-handed among the Republican leadership..."


Projection Abe? Target identification learned at your mothers knee? It doesn't matter, your demeaning simile is typical of the progressive/liberal/socialist gutter where what you call your mind finds refuge.


....uuuu..'o^o'..nn!n....algie
Illegitimi nOn carborundum

M. Simon म्हणाले...

In Illinois we have an outstretched palm with the motto "Ubi Est?"

Unknown म्हणाले...

The eagle used to be the sign of empires. So they are calling walker a nazi or a Junker

अनामित म्हणाले...

"TWM said... I see that Libya is replacing Nazi Germany as the go-to jump the shark comparison nowadays."

Thanks a million for pointing that out. I was astonished that no one had brought up either the Nazis or Hitler in this matter. Normally Godwin's law would have been activated much earlier. I'm glad that you did it because I was about to do it myself. Cheers, and good catch!

Unknown म्हणाले...

Hey garage: What the hell is Obamacare then?

BJM म्हणाले...

@Dadvocate

The world is abundant with people who didn't excel in school or other system but are wonderfully successful in many ways and contribute more than those whose thinking and world view are restricted to what they were taught in school.

Steve Jobs dropped out of Reed College after one semester; The Woz dropped out of Cal in '75 to form the Home Brewed Computer Company.

Paul Allen and Bill Gates,also college dropouts; Allen from Washington State University and Gates from Harvard.

We might not be having this cyber conversation if it weren't for college dropouts.

BJM म्हणाले...

That's true. When you think about it, the parallels are haunting: Like Khaddafi, Walker seized power in a coup d'etat during the cold war, and has stayed in power for decades using ruthless and sometimes violent repression of the population. Recent weeks provide a case in point: Like Khaddafi, Walker has responded to protests by sending in tanks, artillery, and air strikes. Who can number the dead in the streets of Madison? against this tyrant? I for one applaud your courage.

Yes! Who indeed can gainsay the bravery of those Wisconsin freedom fighters rising up for taxpayer funded Viagra!

अनामित म्हणाले...

I do hope that garage is a paid shill for Organizing for America. The alternative is that he truly is that fucking stupid, which for his sake I hope isn't true.

wv: noppeis - Nope, he is!

अनामित म्हणाले...

Suave pickup line:

"So ... I hear you're a lesbian. What part of Lesbia are you from?"

Unknown म्हणाले...

as for garage, i think it may be the dunning-kruger effect in it's shining glory

Gabriel Hanna म्हणाले...

@BJM Allen from Washington State University

The most successful Cougs, arguably, are those who don't finish. "Cougin' it"* is not just for football.

*Cougin' it--to snatch a defeat from the laws of victory, like when you're up 25 points at the half and somehow manage to lose in the 4th quarter.