Althouse: "A 26-year-old woman was charged with... allegedly making email threats against Wisconsin lawmakers..."

३१ मार्च, २०११

"A 26-year-old woman was charged with... allegedly making email threats against Wisconsin lawmakers..."

Finally.

७९ टिप्पण्या:

Cindy Martin म्हणाले...: I wonder if Judge Sumi would have dismissed the case.; ३१/३/११, १०:१७ PM
jeff म्हणाले...: Doesn't count because:
1. she only has good intentions
2. her cause is just and right, extreme measures are not just allowed, but required.

Or some such nonsense.; ३१/३/११, १०:१८ PM
David म्हणाले...: Last line of story: she is not in custody.; ३१/३/११, १०:१९ PM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: West sider. Figures.; ३१/३/११, १०:२० PM
jeff म्हणाले...: Whoops, forgot.
3.She is a Wisconsin Elementary School Teacher.; ३१/३/११, १०:२० PM
Chip S. म्हणाले...: Apparently she fell behind on her payments to the Policemen's Benevolent Society.; ३१/३/११, १०:२१ PM
Meade म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...
"West sider. Figures."

Neighborhoodist.; ३१/३/११, १०:२५ PM
I'm Full of Soup म्हणाले...: Librul?; ३१/३/११, १०:२८ PM
Irene म्हणाले...: Cross Plains is "west side"?

Geesh. That's how I reacted when someone called St. Charles a "suburb" of Chicago.; ३१/३/११, १०:३१ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Odd to me that this was a short blurb in the Milwaukee JS...somebody threatens to kill multiple public officials and it gets a few paragraphs buried in the paper a month later?; ३१/३/११, १०:३३ PM
David म्हणाले...: "Geesh. That's how I reacted when someone called St. Charles a "suburb" of Chicago."

Exactly, Irene. Everyone knows St. Charles is a suburb of Geneva.; ३१/३/११, १०:४८ PM
Whippet म्हणाले...: Not only did she threaten lawmakers. The email account she set up was in the name of a girl she sent threatening text messages to in the fall. The union cops weren't able to contact the teacher back then.....nice police work.; ३१/३/११, १०:४८ PM
rcocean म्हणाले...: 5' 4" 180 lbs.

More evidence that fat people aren't always Jolly.; ३१/३/११, ११:१० PM
former law student म्हणाले...: 3.She is a Wisconsin Elementary School Teacher.

Negatory, rubber duckie.

Unless she teaches in private school -- she has no teaching license in Wisconsin. And these things are so easy to verify, too.

A woman who I believe to be her mother does have a school psychologist license, though, which makes me sad: over her four-decade career she spent much of her time dealing with the emotionally and behaviorally disabled.; ३१/३/११, ११:२२ PM
Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...: Well, she posted the sign. That's king's X.

No way anyone could have acted earlier.; ३१/३/११, ११:२३ PM
Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...: Yow:

The complaint was filed hours after the Department of Justice expressed concern that Ozanne had not yet filed charges against the suspect.; ३१/३/११, ११:२५ PM
Florida Gator म्हणाले...: Also the Dane County District Attorney was apparently dragging his feet on this case. Some links with additional info are here:
http://theundergroundconservative.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/early-childhood-teacher-charged-in-death-threats/; ३१/३/११, ११:२७ PM
former law student म्हणाले...: Also the Dane County District Attorney was apparently dragging his feet on this case.

Her LinkedIn profile says she's an after-school teacher for K-5 kids at a Lutheran church. Dr. Sam Walters would have given her a pass.; ३१/३/११, ११:३५ PM
bagoh20 म्हणाले...: Educated at the University of Wisconsin - Madison. Part of the $20 in return you get for every tax dollar spent. Bombs and bullets have to be made by someone, and that's economic activity.; १/४/११, १२:२४ AM
Methadras म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...

West sider. Figures.

Related?; १/४/११, ३:४३ AM
Methadras म्हणाले...: Leftads on parade. Apologies? Any of you for the ideology you bitterly cling to?; १/४/११, ३:४४ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: This woman is not charged with "allegedly making email threats."

She is charged with ACTUALLY making email threats.

She is alleged to have done so, but the charges accuse her of actually doing it.; १/४/११, ४:२५ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: "Last line of story: she is not in custody."

And this is because Wisconsin police are corrupt and should have their pay and pensions reduced.

Wisconsin police are also going door-to-door to businesses and trying to extort business owners into putting up pro-union signs by telling them they'll "remember" if the business owner does not comply.

It's out-and-out extortion practiced by police and it's disgusting and immoral.

Nobody should want to live in Wisconsin.; १/४/११, ४:२८ AM
Fen म्हणाले...: Just a teeny-tiny minority of violent union protesters... +1; १/४/११, ५:२० AM
Mr. D म्हणाले...: The complaint was filed hours after the Department of Justice expressed concern that Ozanne had not yet filed charges against the suspect.

Brandeis got it right nearly 100 years ago: sunlight is the best disinfectant.; १/४/११, ५:५७ AM
Unknown म्हणाले...: Hope this is the Twitter twat that also threatened Ann.

Stay safe, you crazy kids.; १/४/११, ६:१० AM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: Notice there is no condemnation from the resident leftists.; १/४/११, ६:१४ AM
Steve Austin म्हणाले...: She does look a bit like Lynette Squeaky Fromme or Sara Jane Moore. Contrary to the liberal template, there actually are historical instances of crazy left wing women who threaten GOP politicians.

Why is she not in custody? Will New Media Meade ask the DA this question?; १/४/११, ६:४१ AM
Fen म्हणाले...: Notice there is no condemnation from the resident leftists.

They are waiting on the next patch for their talking points. Upgrading "teeny-tiny minortity" to the next level is a pita to code.; १/४/११, ६:५५ AM
Fen म्हणाले...: "Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your families will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks."

"I hope you have a good time in hell,"

she purportedly listed scenarios in which the legislators and their families would die, including bombings and by "putting a nice little bullet in your head."

“I sent out emails that I was
disgusted and very upset by what they were doing.”

Stay classy, Libtards.; १/४/११, ६:५८ AM
Scott M म्हणाले...: Perusing the standard MSM outlets, I see this is getting about what would be expected as far as national coverage.; १/४/११, ७:०९ AM
Francisco D म्हणाले...: I appreciate that the usual trolls on this site have not (yet) risen to her defense. Thanks, good show, and all that.

More of the same and I will feel the need to take your comments much more seriously in the future.

wv = frarcie; Is any of this story from The Onion?; १/४/११, ७:१२ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: The Racine Journal Times downplays this story on Page 9a admidst the larger story that "Anti-picketing e-mail leads to report", where the concern is that "Union Director received alleged threat that contained his address,names of family members."

The Racine Journal Times also hides the story of Sen. Wanggard calling for an investigation into the Union Grove business threats on the bottom of page 11a.

The local papers have become irrelevant. The Blogosphere is where it's at.; १/४/११, ७:२२ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: After going to the Underground Conservative I see the problem, Ms. Windels is Fat AND unhappy. Also the product of liberal indoctrination. She needs unserstanding, therapy and support. Now, stop picking on her.; १/४/११, ७:२६ AM
Beta Rube म्हणाले...: So if one "what you talkin' 'bout Willis" sign (in a sea of thousands)defines the entire Tea Party as racist, what does this incident say about union thugs?; १/४/११, ७:२८ AM
Toad Trend म्हणाले...: Nothing says 'Look at me, I want an FBI anal exam' better than sending death threats via the internet.

The left owns irrationality.

Sadly, elections only seem to be consequential when democrats win.; १/४/११, ७:४० AM
Sarah म्हणाले...: ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.; १/४/११, ७:५० AM
MadisonMan म्हणाले...: Notice there is no condemnation from the resident leftists.

Why should anyone condemn the fact that she's been charged?; १/४/११, ७:५३ AM
Scott M म्हणाले...: Why should anyone condemn the fact that she's been charged?

Condemnation of the actions first. No condemnation of "being charged" as it's just a precursor to guilty or not guilty. Certainly condemnation if found guilty, or if OJ-guilty, but gets off on a technicality or with a suspended sentence from a empathetic bench.

Be honest, though, MM. Were the situation reversed politically, you know the media vitriol would be a sluce of condemnation and calls, nay demands!, for conservative statements in kind.; १/४/११, ७:५८ AM
SteveR म्हणाले...: Sarah Palin made her do it.; १/४/११, ८:१३ AM
Triangle Man म्हणाले...: As a resident centrist voice of reason, I condemn her alleged actions.; १/४/११, ८:२४ AM
Triangle Man म्हणाले...: Also, on behalf of Trooper York, I ask that her fatness be ignored.; १/४/११, ८:२५ AM
DADvocate म्हणाले...: Neighborhoodist.

West side in Cinci has a bad rep too for some reason.; १/४/११, ८:४५ AM
DADvocate म्हणाले...: She is a Wisconsin Elementary School Teacher.

Further proof that you don't have to be that smart to be a school teacher.; १/४/११, ८:४६ AM
bagoh20 म्हणाले...: "Teach your parents well,
Their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.

Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you. "; १/४/११, ८:४७ AM
Meade म्हणाले...: Alright but come on - who here can really blame her?

"Recall Walker..." So she got a little carried away with the recall effort.

"This is what democracy looks like..." So she got a little carried away with the peaceful non-violent protests.

"Send emails to your representatives. Tell them what they're doing is WRONG...” So she got a little carried away with the tone of her own emails.

"Who's house? OUR house!..." So she got a little carried away with the housecleaning efforts.

Who among us has never been drawn into violent intimidating criminal mob mentality - stirred up by teachers, parents, assemblymen, Democrats, lawyers, judges, unions, TAs - all with a little innocent everyday self-interest on the line - and sent things in emails that, the next morning, we regretted writing or maybe three weeks later when the Department of Justice knocked on our doors?; १/४/११, ८:५१ AM
Lincolntf म्हणाले...: Anyone else see a "Bill Ayers Award For Civil Discourse" in this little darling's future? Maybe an endowed chair somewhere?; १/४/११, ९:०३ AM
former law student म्हणाले...: "Non-union member non-elementary school teacher emails threats to Wisconsin lawmakers"

I condemn these threats and hope the state prevents her from caring for children after school because she's obviously loony.; १/४/११, ९:११ AM
Tully म्हणाले...: OF COURSE Ozanne was dragging his ffet on the case. Filing charges related to actual recent death threats against the lawmakers substantiates any claims that 24 hour notice of hearings was a Bad Idea. Which undermines his suit.; १/४/११, ९:१३ AM
vet66 म्हणाले...: There is a pathology among the fringe left that requires serious intervention. The difference between them and the so-called 'tea partiers' is stark. Whereas the anarchist left defaults to violence the tea partiers default to the constitution.

The democratic party is stirring up the useful idiots, dolts and inhabitants of the far left while maintaining plausible deniability. Cannonfodder for the utopian dream easily sacrificed. A softer version of ME suicide bombers are these anarchists seeking attention and glory for the wrong reason.; १/४/११, ९:१५ AM
Crimso म्हणाले...: "The local papers have become irrelevant."

If that was the case, it would be great. They would deserve it. What you have described, though, is malevolent.; १/४/११, ९:२३ AM
george म्हणाले...: So do Wisconsin emergency services personnel respond to fires or robberies if you don't have one of those posters advocating fisting in your window?

I have to think that despite all of the propaganda there has to be a silent majority who has had about enough of their kids being walked out on or intimidated into being props at political rallies. They have to be tired of being threatened and they have to be appalled that they have to worry about whether there is anyone left in their government that will enforce the law faithfully and fully without regard to your political views.

The only things unions are good at are intimidation and graft. I think we are seeing how much of the former they are willing to engage in to protect the latter. We are getting a case study in why public unions cannot be allowed to exist.; १/४/११, ९:३१ AM
Mr. D म्हणाले...: OF COURSE Ozanne was dragging his ffet on the case. Filing charges related to actual recent death threats against the lawmakers substantiates any claims that 24 hour notice of hearings was a Bad Idea. Which undermines his suit.

Ding ding ding. Give Tully a cigar.

wv: dinge. Really.; १/४/११, ९:३३ AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...: The entitlement generation will kill you so they can steal your stuff.; १/४/११, ९:३५ AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...: After the dust settles, this woman will have her own show on MSNBC or CNN.; १/४/११, ९:३६ AM
Known Unknown म्हणाले...: FLS FTW.; १/४/११, ९:३८ AM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: (1) "Windels was not in custody. She was expected to be served Friday with her first court appearance in late April"

(2) WI police and firefighters have threatened to boycott businesses that do not put the WI Fist sign in their windows.

Wisconsin has two sets of laws, one for Democrats and one for everyone else.

Welcome to liberal fascism.; १/४/११, ९:४२ AM
Tully म्हणाले...: Mr, D: well, someone needed to explicate the obvious. (Just toss the cigar in the humidor over there.); १/४/११, ९:४२ AM
Martin L. Shoemaker म्हणाले...: Ut said...

This woman is not charged with "allegedly making email threats."

She is charged with ACTUALLY making email threats.

I had the same reaction: "charged" implies "allegedly". It reads like "allegedly" was added to subtly minimize the charges.

But to be fair to the Journal Sentinel, I think that reading is incorrect. This is a bit of awkward editing on the part of Professor Althouse. Here's the full statement:

A 26-year-old woman was charged Thursday with two felony counts and two misdemeanor counts for allegedly making email threats against Wisconsin lawmakers during the height of the battle over Gov. Scott Walker's budget-repair bill.

Breaking that down... She was charged with four counts. Why? For allegedly making threats.

I think the "allegedly" is justified here.; १/४/११, ९:४६ AM
Brian Brown म्हणाले...: Why should anyone condemn the fact that she's been charged?

Thank you for proving my point.

Your continued obtuseness is rather entertaining too.; १/४/११, ९:५५ AM
Sal म्हणाले...: She's quite a troubled young lady. Glad nothing came of it and a good reminder for the practice of "restraint of pen and tongue."; १/४/११, १०:११ AM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: Her mother is a school psychologist and her dad is an NP in psychiatry.

Interesting; straight out of a Law and Order: Criminal Intent episode.; १/४/११, १०:१८ AM
Known Unknown म्हणाले...: Interesting; straight out of a Law and Order: Criminal Intent episode.

No, she would have to be a white, Christian, conservative businessman to fit the L&O villain mold.; १/४/११, १०:२५ AM
Unknown म्हणाले...: Meade said...

Alright but come on - who here can really blame her?

"Recall Walker..." So she got a little carried away with the recall effort.

"This is what democracy looks like..." So she got a little carried away with the peaceful non-violent protests.

"Send emails to your representatives. Tell them what they're doing is WRONG...” So she got a little carried away with the tone of her own emails.

"Who's house? OUR house!..." So she got a little carried away with the housecleaning efforts.

Who among us has never been drawn into violent intimidating criminal mob mentality - stirred up by teachers, parents, assemblymen, Democrats, lawyers, judges, unions, TAs - all with a little innocent everyday self-interest on the line - and sent things in emails that, the next morning, we regretted writing or maybe three weeks later when the Department of Justice knocked on our doors?

That you can laugh about something that serious and terrifying says a lot that's good about you, sir.

Kiss your husband, Mrs Meade. He's a good, brave soul.

(as are you; so kiss your wife as well, Mr Meade); १/४/११, १०:३० AM
Meade म्हणाले...: Aye, Aye, Captain!; १/४/११, १०:४५ AM
Mike म्हणाले...: Inquiring minds want to know? Is she a 5' 4" 180 pound little dumpling or is she the hot looking 26 year old that appears on her Facebook or Twitter account. Sounds like a doppelganger to me, and I'm sure her defense will be a version of "the other dude did it".
As in "It wasn't me, it was the fact chick that did it"--or "It wasn't me, it was the hottie that did it."

In any case one of them did the crime, and should have to do the time.; १/४/११, १०:५८ AM
MadisonMan म्हणाले...: Your continued obtuseness is rather entertaining too.

It was more a comment on unclear writing than anything else.; १/४/११, ११:०३ AM
former law student म्हणाले...: She does look a bit like Lynette Squeaky Fromme or Sara Jane Moore. Contrary to the liberal template, there actually are historical instances of crazy left wing women who threaten GOP politicians.

Thrown out of her parents' house, Squeaky Fromme was picked up by Charles Manson and moved in with him. Later she was affiliated with the Aryan Brotherhood. Which of these were left-wing organizations?

Sara Jane Moore hung out with leftist organizations, only to become first an FBI informant and then an ATF informant. How likely are government informants to sincerely hold their professed beliefs?; १/४/११, ११:१६ AM
Meade म्हणाले...: Charles Manson and the Aryan Brotherhood are both left wing organizations.; १/४/११, ११:२० AM
Trooper York म्हणाले...: Hey there are bad chubby people just like there are bad skinny people.

If she spent her time online buying from Lee Lee's Valise she would look great and have a bunch of dates and live a happy life. Just sayn'; १/४/११, ११:३९ AM
Lincolntf म्हणाले...: ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.; १/४/११, ११:४५ AM
Lincolntf म्हणाले...: ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.; १/४/११, ११:४५ AM
Lincolntf म्हणाले...: Regardless of her employment status we certainly know what side she's on, so let's not pretend it's a puzzler. Now if law enforcement would track down the other people who were sliding threats under doors, etc. I think it'd be pretty clear that we have a pattern. Lots of professional students, union drones and unreconstructed SDS-types. Basically the Democrat base.; १/४/११, ११:४७ AM
The Dude म्हणाले...: Lincolntf - why would the police be interested in figuring out who made death threats? The police, the unions, democrats, the rabble, those making the threats - they are all on the same side, and it's not the side of the law.; १/४/११, १:२३ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: "Breaking that down... She was charged with four counts. Why? For allegedly making threats."

(This is a pet peeve of mine - so ignore unless you have an interest in accurate journalism).

This is sloppy editing.

The woman is not charged with allegedly making threats. She is charged with ACTUALLY making threats. The police must, of course, prove those allegations but we can say that she's charged with making threats. We needn't say she "allegedly" made them.

We can write that the police allege she made threats and have charged her. We can even write that she allegedly made threats.

But we shouldn't write that the police charged her with "allegedly making threats." They didn't charge her with "allegedly making threats"; they charged her with ACTUALLY making threats.; १/४/११, ५:५८ PM
Cedarford म्हणाले...: Mike said...
Inquiring minds want to know? Is she a 5' 4" 180 pound little dumpling or is she the hot looking 26 year old that appears on her Facebook or Twitter account.
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Agree! Hottie, or fattie with self-esteem issues lashing out?
My thoughts are on the fattie making email threats, because the hottie would be plenty busy!

National Enquiring sort of minds want to know!; १/४/११, ७:४८ PM
Cedarford म्हणाले...: Trooper York said...
Hey there are bad chubby people just like there are bad skinny people.

If she spent her time online buying from Lee Lee's Valise she would look great and have a bunch of dates and live a happy life. Just sayn'

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You sell small tents? With eye slits?
She could have Muslim suitors seeking an upgrade from sheep and little boys lining up!

Whereas if she was the hottie in the pic posted and an angry feminist - she would have an entirely different target list of people to send nasty emails to - for objectifying her and relentlessly seeking sex for the last 10 years.; १/४/११, ७:५३ PM
Asheville Argonaut म्हणाले...: When is a death threat not a death threat?
When you're disgusted and very upset by what THEY are doing. And don't intend to follow through.
Actually, that is still a death threat.; १/४/११, ८:२६ PM
shana म्हणाले...: Meade wrote: So she got a little carried away
What you wrote was pretty much exactly the same justification Esquire gave for why threatening Roger Ailes is ok. But they weren't being ironic.; २/४/११, १:४३ PM