३० मार्च, २०१०
"What this film was about for me, which are the moms that take care of the babies and the children no matter where they come from."
Said Sandra Bullock, accepting her Oscar, after fighting alongside her husband Jesse James to win full custody of his 6-year-old daughter, Sunny. There are 2 other James kids — Chandler, 15, and Jesse Jr., 12 — who have had Bullock as a mom. Moms take care of the babies and the children no matter where they come from... but what is she supposed to do now that her husband has betrayed her? Stay together for his children? Or are they her children now? She has dropped plans to adopt them. Presumably, James's children will go back to their real mothers, now that James is consorting with that tattooed, Nazi-arm-band-wearing stripper.
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Nazi arm band wearing...? Oh boy. This is a mess.
Maybe Sandra should take the whole brood of kids and save them from their biological parents (who seem to be acting like children themselves).
It is just a sad story.
My sense is Bullock really was doing a good job being the kids' mom.
And dad screws the kids while he gets to do what he wants.
Why are chicks who gravitate to the 'bad boys' so damn shocked when the dude lives up to his image?
As they say in the in-flight safety videos, "...be sure to adjust your own mask before helping others."
She can still be involved with these kids' lives, after she takes care of herself and unloads James Sr.
@Hoosier, I've often wondered exactly the same thing.
Synova, kentuckliz, lyssa, k*thy, Professor Althouse, can you enlighten us?
I am shocked -- shocked -- that another man has fallen victim to New Pussy Syndrome. The next thing you know the sun will come up in the east.
Is it really a Nazi tattoo? That's a nice touch. Your side hoe should always have a high skank quotient.
Finally I think this guy ought to buck the usual and hold a press conference and say hell yeah he fucked this tattooed skank and he'll do it again. It would be amoral but enough with the sanctimony.
Kids should never be dropped by someone who was at any time a caring adult in their lives...ever. But I guess these stay in their dad's custody and tough it out, as kids often do. I'm certain Bullock will keep the lines of communication open, as she seems to be quite a decent woman. On a side note -- maaan...and I really liked Jesse after his stint on "The Apprentice" last year. He seemed so even-keel and reliable. I'm sure those tattoos are looking a little over the top now, though. Blah.
I don't think you can really lay the decision to stop seeking to adopt the children on Bullock. For all we know, she'd be perfectly happy to keep raising all of them. But the law gives her about zero rights to any of his kids, so it would be a waste of time, and undoubtedly counter-productive, to continue her efforts in that regard.
Besides which, the fact that James is an unfaithful jerk does not necessarily imply that he is a bad father in a more general sense.
WHAT HAPPENS IF HER DON'T GET THEM?
If you don't want to be mistaken for David Mamet, you might want to rewrite that first sentence of yours.
@Hoosier Daddy:
It's a chick thing. You wouldn't understand.
I sure don't.
Over to you, Ann.
Who's to say that Tattoo Girl wouldn't be as good a mom as Bullock?
He was screwing Bullock while married to his previous wife, and he married HER.
Why can't it happen again?
She could keep her plans to adopt the children while still married to him. Then, at divorce proceeding time, those are her children legally every bit as much as they are his children and she could fight for them and could possibly win full custody or visitation, or whatever. Or she could be saddled with minimal visitation and madatory child support. It's a crap-shoot.
As for why women succomb to bad boys...it's similar to New P*ssy Syndrome.
I think she was on Oprah the day after her Oscar win and saying something like, tomorrow she will be home and taking our daughter to and from school and doing homework...
I think she was all in - a commitment to him and his kids and I guess he didn't appreciate any of it. To have another woman love your kids is a blessing he didn't appreciate. He's a jerky mcJerk face.
Like someone said, I think she will stay in touch as long as they want to (seems like a decent woman) because, as Cher's dad said in Clueless, you divorce spouses, not children (step or otherwise).
That All American Girl act doesn't fool me, Sandra.
'go back to their real mothers' ?
its only the custody of the yougest that is in dispute, and her mother lives in a 1/2 way house so what judge would send a child there ?
and is it somehow out of the question that sandra stays involved w/ the kids though she and their dad divorce ? just because parents divorce doesnt make them stop being parents ...
"He was screwing Bullock while married to his previous wife, and he married HER.
Why can't it happen again?"
Any woman, or man for that matter, who marries someone who is already cheating is a fool if they think it's not going to happen again.
Sandy sure is hot though.
Although Ms. Bullock is not my idea of gorgeous, she's certainly no eyesore and has a thriving movie career as America's sweetheart. As I finally had a look at the "other woman", my reaction was "HER????". The guy needs some glasses or a brain adjustment - bad.
Ann seems to be saying she views Ms. Bullock as some sort of hypocrite, "'Moms take care of the babies and the children no matter where they come from...' but what is she supposed to do now that her husband has betrayed her? Stay together for his children? Or are they her children now? She has dropped plans to adopt them.".
Right about now, she's still in some kind of shell shock over this. Adoption, presumably, was a way to make them all more of a family on the proposition he was her soulmate and they would stay together. With Dad gone, that's a dream gone up in smoke. When she's a little more together, she can always make a fight for custody on the grounds of saving them from their biological parents when the divorce is litigated.
I would also agree with those who say she seems to be a good enough person (I don't follow her life story) and, if she meant what she said at the Oscars, stay involved some way. That post about epitaphs in the other thread holds here:
Ma loved Pa,
Pa loved women.
Ma caught Pa
With two in swimmin'.
Here lies Pa
When women were women and not womyn.
danielle said...
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and her mother lives in a 1/2 way house so what judge would send a child there ?
You don't approve of the swell safety net the Lefties have established and the kind of people it produces? You'll be drummed out of The Zero Fan Club!
Dropping the adoption process of his kids does not make her a hypocrite. I hope that is not the suggestion.
What a terribly painful time she must be going through. I really feel for her.
Once again I would like to express my gratitude to Tiger Woods for becoming involved in a sex scandal that looks like a game that was worth the candle. This, like the Edwards scandal, makes everyone look bad.
Does anyone here know anything about Sandra or Jesse? Really, actually know anything about them? Unless someone here is a friend of theirs, I don't see how you think you know what kind of mother Sandra is.
Books, covers, that sort of thing.
Trey
We all know that Sandra is an awesome mom because we saw her in The Blind Side.
My heart goes out to anyone whose spouse cheats...until I hear that Sandra started seeing Jesse (gosh...it's cool being on a first-name basis) before he was divorced. Then I think Sandra should have been smarter.
Some women like bad boys because they get the fun without having to worry that the bad boy will ever take the relationship seriously enough to propose. When/if he does, then it's proof that he's not a bad boy anymore.
"You divorce [husbands], not children."
-- Clueless (1995)
(That quote refers to the same situation of being a step parent, by the way.)
She'll be back for them, in some manner. Give her some time to sort things out.
As for bad boys - I can't really say. I was looking for (and found) something else.
Why are chicks who gravitate to the 'bad boys' so damn shocked when the dude lives up to his image?
First, we have to find out why some women are attracted to bad boys. So it would be good to find a woman who is and ask her why. Any takers?
Freeman, to be clear, are you suggesting that someone who was going to adopt in a situation like this should continue the adoption process? I don't even know whether that is something that is ever done. I also doubt very much that this shows a lack of desire to still be a parent to these kids, just a tragic consequence of very
bad behavior (and choices).
I'm asking, by the way. I have no idea whether the adoption process lends itself to this kind of thing.
Freeman, to be clear, are you suggesting that someone who was going to adopt in a situation like this should continue the adoption process?
No. I don't know anything about adoption processes or what's involved. I'm suggesting that once a step parent, always a step parent.
Thanks, Freem. Then yeah, I agree with you. It's a commitment.
"you knew I was a snake when you picked me up and took me in...
"Please don't pretend to be shocked when I bite you."
She has dropped plans to adopt them.
Way to hit the lottery and then ... unhit it.
Poor kids ... literally.
It's nice to think that Sandra would stay involved with the kids. But that would require her being involved with and connected to Jesse James for the rest of her life.
That would be a very, very difficult step for anyone.
At this point Jesse should parley this into his ailing chopper business. Maybe he should phone up Tiger for pointers on milking this thing for all of it's worth. Like I told you guys before when the Tiger story first came out that this would be the greatest thing to happen in golf, EVAR!!! and now look at it. The Masters are going off. Ticket prices have skyrocketed to unbelievable costs just to see this guy and all he did was fuck women who weren't his wife. Bizarro world indeed.
I guess ole Jesse had a special attraction to Ms. Bombshell:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/jesse-james-posed-as-adolf-hitler-while-dating-sandra-bullock-2010313
Aww....
He's soooooo bad.
I wondered whether Sandra was knowingly enabling a cheat when she took up with "Vanilla Gorilla". If it's true, she went through half a dozen red lights and was surprised by the crash. (wearing blindfold) "I never saw it coming."
Well...upon actually reading the US excerpt..
"He had a stepmom whose father lost family in the camps, and they'd talk about it growing up. Jesse's not a white supremacist."
So...maybe this was his way of..err...sticking it..to a white supremacist.
When taking hormonal contraception, women's discernment of the suitability of male partners suffers. Was that a factor here?
Or is the Vanilla Gorilla an alpha male and it's a primitive thing?
When I dated bad boys, it was for fun, for a finite period of time. They're not the kind you date in public and introduce to your friends and family.
Pop culture has gone all thug and gangsta and emphasizes all the wrong qualities that are exactly opposite of good husband/father material.
Where are good husbands and fathers admired and rewarded?
I've seen an addiction to bad boy mojo destroy lives. But, those were freely made choices. Can't blame loving bad men for getting involved with drugs and crime. If those are morally wrong to you, you won't do them.
http://womens-sexual-health.suite101.com/article.cfm/can_birth_control_pills_affect_mate_selection
Sandra lived with Jesse in a beach house in Orange County, California. Jesse's first wife, the mother of his two older children, lives across the street or at least within walking distance. I've never heard that she could lose her children for any reason.
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