Althouse: Why didn't Rielle Hunter have an abortion?

२७ जानेवारी, २०१०

Why didn't Rielle Hunter have an abortion?

Because she thought that baby was “some kind of golden child, the reincarnated spirit of a Buddhist monk who was going to help save the world.”

५३ टिप्पण्या:

अनामित म्हणाले...: Golden child or golden ticket?

wv: pible - The lost gospel of Pythagoras; २७/१/१०, ७:४२ AM
vet66 म्हणाले...: Edwards is a tragic figure doomed to failure. What a FOP-fine and fragile like his hair. Hunter is a groupie who believed the hype. They walk among us...!; २७/१/१०, ७:४५ AM
AllenS म्हणाले...: Incurable cancer: Elizabeth Edwards said publicly that she discovered her cancer had returned shortly after a rib broke from a strong hug from her husband. Young writes that she broke her rib while she was moving boxes and her husband was in Iowa planning a tryst for Hunter’s birthday. Young writes that Edwards got the call and hurried home – and sent flowers to his angry mistress.

Elizabeth is just as dirty as the dirty bastard husband of hers.; २७/१/१०, ७:४६ AM
Roger J. म्हणाले...: ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.; २७/१/१०, ७:४६ AM
Roger J. म्हणाले...: Without a baby she couldnt milk that poseur son of a bitch,and his complicit spouse, for every dime they are worth. Its very simple:the baby is a means to Rielle's larger end. Lots of money for the rest of her life. The beauty of this is the everyone of those bastards,(except the child) deserve the shit storm. What did Kant say about ethics? People should be treated as ends and not means.; २७/१/१०, ७:५२ AM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: "What did Kant say about ethics? People should be treated as ends and not means."

So Kant's pro-abortion on this one?; २७/१/१०, ७:५७ AM
MadisonMan म्हणाले...: t-man nails it.

I think anyone who picks up this book will have to wash their hands afterwards to get the stench of Edwards off.; २७/१/१०, ८:१० AM
Kev म्हणाले...: (the other kev)

I'm not really into eugenics, but some people just shouldn't breed. Like pretty much everyone in that article.; २७/१/१०, ८:१२ AM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: Calling Crack Emcee!

I'd like his take on it, but Rielle's comment is hilariously scary.; २७/१/१०, ८:१३ AM
Roger J. म्हणाले...: Professor: Kant's dictum simply provides an ethical yardstick and says not a thing about what Kant's position might have been on abortion. But if you want to push this a bit further, it depends upon how you view the foetus, doesnt it. A lump of protoplasm or a person: your choice.; २७/१/१०, ८:१५ AM
Unknown म्हणाले...: Who does this Rielle Hunter person think she is, Eddie Murphy?

"Viva Nepal! Viva Nepal!"; २७/१/१०, ८:२१ AM
Shanna म्हणाले...: God, just when you think you can't hear anything that makes you think less of this woman (and edwards for his taste) than you already do...

Monica may have been kind of trashy, but at least she wasn't crazy.; २७/१/१०, ८:२६ AM
DaveW म्हणाले...: Golden child or golden ticket?

Head of nail meet hammer.

I saw a story, I think yesterday but I don't have a link, saying there's a (Edwards - Hunter) sex video out there too.

How stupid could Edwards be? Not only is he fooling around with campaign staff, not only does he get her pregnant, not only does he get caught on tape later visiting her in a Hotel, but he also let himself be taped having sex with her?

Wow. This is the Dem 2004 VP nominee we're talking about.; २७/१/१०, ८:२८ AM
Wince म्हणाले...: What is really heinous in this episode is that Edwards was portrayed and viewed by many as the candidate with the most “compassion.”

But I do appreciate the hair care advice.

“Naturally thick and lustrous, his hair was a fixation with him. He insisted on using just one kind of shampoo — HairTec Thick & Strong Shampoo for Fine, Fragile Hair,” Young writes.

"Thick, lustrous hair is very important to me."; २७/१/१०, ८:५४ AM
Sarah म्हणाले...: People like this are the reason I need to stay home more.; २७/१/१०, ८:५७ AM
Roger J. म्हणाले...: re John Edwards--democratic party icon--I guess he was the honky barack obama 8 years ago--well done American media and democratic party--you can really pick the slimeballs. the real disgrace, is the way the american media treated john edwards while going after joe the plumber--there is a special place in hell for those bastards.; २७/१/१०, ९:०० AM
Cedarford म्हणाले...: Just thinking it would be nice to have Rielle Hunter follow Tim Tebow in the prolife Superbowl ad. "Not only wouldn't T Tebow be alive if his parents hadn't gone with life, if I had gone with an abortion, maybe the Sleazebucket would have been your Attorney General!

Pro abortion forces could always rebut with a picture of several thousand abandoned Haitian children in rags lining up for a scoop of rice in their grim Malthusian Trap of a nation.; २७/१/१०, ९:०९ AM
Roux म्हणाले...: The press had to know some of this crap about Edwards. What don't we know about Obama?; २७/१/१०, ९:२४ AM
Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...: I think most mothers believe that of their child.. they just keep it to themselves.; २७/१/१०, ९:२९ AM
rhhardin म्हणाले...: On Imus, why there's a sex tape:

"She's a videographer. What's she going to do? Turn the camera on."; २७/१/१०, ९:३३ AM
MadisonMan म्हणाले...: The press had to know some of this crap about Edwards. What don't we know about Obama?

Oh for God's sake. Because one x is y does not mean all x are y.; २७/१/१०, ९:४२ AM
Peter V. Bella म्हणाले...: Why didn't Rielle Hunter have an abortion?

Her biological clock was a ticking time bomb.; २७/१/१०, ९:४२ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: A golden child who is going to save the world, and she couldn't come up with a more interesting name than "Frances"? I would have gone with "Fortune." It works on many levels.; २७/१/१०, ९:४२ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: On the topic of Kant and abortion. Kant actually endorses infanticide in this case. I remember reading this in an essay for a course on Kant's political philosophy, and it sent shivers down my spine:

"Legislation cannot remove the disgrace of an illegitimate birth … A child that comes into the world apart from marriage is born outside the law … and therefore outside the protection of the law. It has, as it were, stolen into the commonwealth (like contraband merchandise), so that the commonwealth can ignore its existence (since it was not right that it should have come to exist this way), and can therefore also ignore its
annihilation."

The professor, somehow, didn't even deem the view worthy of comment.; २७/१/१०, ९:४५ AM
prairie wind म्हणाले...: So, Young cut up his suit for Edwards, Young paid for hotel bills for Edwards' affair, Young paid for Edwards' hair, Young watched Edwards treat his supporters like crap, Young badgered donors for money so Edwards could continue his affair, and Young claimed that he was the father of Rielles' baby to cover up for Edwards...

...and we're supposed to think that John, Elizabeth, and Rielle are crazy??

Affairs are always sleazy, so no news there. But to have someone who abetted the affair go public with his puppy love for John Edwards...now, that is something new.; २७/१/१०, ९:५३ AM
holdfast म्हणाले...: Lighten up Frances.

VW = ungange, the opposite of engage!; २७/१/१०, १०:०२ AM
former law student म्हणाले...: She wanted a baby, and she wanted that baby to have the best possible start in life. The marriage market for "crazy sluts" being limited, she trolled herself in front of a horny, good-looking, wealthy guy. Apparently Edwards can resist anything but temptation, so he snapped at the bait.

She's not an attractive woman, looking like a cross between the young Kristy McNichol and the elderly Jean Kennedy Smith. But crazy sluttitude has a bad-for-you appeal all its own, like a bag of pork rinds.; २७/१/१०, १०:०५ AM
robinintn म्हणाले...: I don't have any problem believing the golden child stuff from such a crackpot. But if she did think of the child as a golden ticket, she's not managing that very well. She can't even get him to pay the child's dental bills without paying her lawyer first to pry the money out of him: http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/68042?cid=RSS

Link to the Enquirer, which has a 100% accuracy record on this.; २७/१/१०, १०:०६ AM
Leslie म्हणाले...: The real question, seems to me, is why John Edwards did not use a condom while having sex with a woman who supposedly flung herself at him in a bar. He was running for president at the time!!! The answer to the question about Rielle then answers itself.; २७/१/१०, १०:१३ AM
former law student म्हणाले...: why John Edwards did not use a condom

Hey, Billy Jeff looks smarter all the time, because from the stained dress evidence, cigar tales, etc. apparently he never had intercourse with Monica.; २७/१/१०, १०:२१ AM
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...: "She thought that baby was 'some kind of golden child, the reincarnated spirit of a Buddhist monk who was going to help save the world."

Well, she was right on one count:

Frances helped save the nation from Edwards.

Pogo,

I did a post on this (address broken in two parts):

http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/2010/01/

spell-it-out-because-so-few-can.html

This "golden child" woo-woo nonsense is (wait for it, Ann) all part of the whole!; २७/१/१०, १०:२७ AM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: Thanks, Crack!; २७/१/१०, १०:५२ AM
William म्हणाले...: I agree with Roger J. The fatuity, venality, and mendacity of Edwards and his entourage were matched only by the press that was supposed to be covering him.; २७/१/१०, १०:५७ AM
Synova म्हणाले...: Hunter does seem like the sort of crazy person who would actually believe that, rather than the sort of analytical schemer calculating how to use the kid as a meal ticket.

And really, I'm on her side with that. Not the "golden child" thing, but seeing babies as a potential for good rather than a destructive force.

Yay for her.

And hey, Crack is right, the baby already saved us from John Edwards.

Yay for the golden child. :-); २७/१/१०, ११:२८ AM
Trooper York म्हणाले...: "But crazy sluttitude has a bad-for-you appeal all its own, like a bag of pork rinds"

Dude that is the smartest thing I ever heard yous say. If you want confirmation check out "Jersey Shore" for this being played out right in front of the cameras. But eventually you grow up and learn something. Otherwise you have Twinkies and Mountain Dew for dinner every night. Just sayn'; २७/१/१०, ११:३७ AM
Synova म्हणाले...: Maybe I should explain myself better.

Hunter sounds like the sort of person who would express herself through a particular mystic filter. A Christian parent might describe his or her child as having a purpose from God known from before it was conceived, and essentially *mean* that every person does, even if what we are meant to do on this earth is the same as anyone else. Hunter's mystical filter sounds like the sort that would consider any child the reincarnated spirit of someone or other and assume the karmic progression of greater good in each successive life... and hey, why not envision something toward the top end of that? It's not quite as outrageous as it might sound.

Among all the various bad messages a child can have, the idea that they should expect and look for ways to serve others and make the world better isn't a bad one. (Nor is bad to think that one might be in horrible circumstances in order to be available to help or support someone else in those same circumstances, who may not be as strong.); २७/१/१०, ११:३९ AM
Trooper York म्हणाले...: The one thing I would really like to hear is what our friend Amanda has to say about this?

National Enquiring minds want to know.; २७/१/१०, ११:३९ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: $5000 for dental care arising from tooth decay in a 2-year old?! That sounds like parental neglect to me.

Looking on the bright side, the "golden child" will have a mouth full of golden teeth which she can use to convince the unenlighted of her sheer awesomeness.; २७/१/१०, ११:४४ AM
Methadras म्हणाले...: I'm disappointed.; २७/१/१०, ११:५२ AM
DaveW म्हणाले...: $5000 for dental care arising from tooth decay in a 2-year old?!

Yeah that's exactly what struck me. A 2-year old doesn't even have permanent teeth. What are you going to do to a 2-year old's baby teeth that costs $5,000 and what dentist would do it and what parent would allow it? You're not going to do root canals, crowns or orthodontics on a 2-year old.; २७/१/१०, १२:०६ PM
Simon Kenton म्हणाले...: FLS wins the thread and the day with

"But crazy sluttitude has a bad-for-you appeal all its own, like a bag of pork rinds."

If you went into the NYT newsroom and told them the truth: "We missed John Edwards as president because of the professionalism of the National Enquirer," would not a set of real, committed, ethical journalists feel obliged to commit seppuku?; २७/१/१०, १२:०८ PM
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...: Synova,

"Hunter does seem like the sort of crazy person who would actually believe that, rather than the sort of analytical schemer calculating how to use the kid as a meal ticket."

Bullshit. (I don't mean that as harshly as the word implies - just that it's bullshit:) NewAgers are delusional and cover their scheming, even from themselves, with this kind of talk. I'm not saying they aren't capable of how you express their outlook - some are really gone - but just that generally, when you really dig into how they function, it's more complicated. I think Chuck Woolery nailed Rielle pretty well here (address broken into two parts):

http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com

/2008/08/you-live-you-learn.html

If she's slutty enough to unleash all this on a family (along with all the other stuff I've covered her saying - click her tag and go back in time to older posts) I'm sorry, but I'm not giving the idea of her having any kind of supposedly pure/innocent/naive/spiritual integrity much credibility. For starters, she knew who John Edwards was when she met him, so she also knew she was screwing a married man with a sick wife and three kids - one deceased. For that alone, she's toast "spiritually", as far as I'm concerned, from there.

She's a gold digging slut, hiding her depravity under a veneer of gosimer wings.; २७/१/१०, १२:२६ PM
DADvocate म्हणाले...: Slime balls and nut cases, it's a miracle Edwards isn't president.; २७/१/१०, १२:३१ PM
Synova म्हणाले...: Self-delusion is a powerful force, Crack.

I don't deny it.

I think that the majority of people "really think" what they present themselves as thinking. They lie to themselves before they lie to others.

And yes, of course, it takes a special sort of self-delusion to go after a married man and let yourself get pregnant and think that it's all going to work out well because of his good qualities.; २७/१/१०, १२:४५ PM
MadisonMan म्हणाले...: $5000 for dental care arising from tooth decay in a 2-year old?!

The dentist was in Tahiti. That's my guess.; २७/१/१०, १:०७ PM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: Maybe it was an astral plane dentist.

Root canals on spiritual teeth can be expensive.; २७/१/१०, १:०९ PM
Synova म्हणाले...: Doing anything much "dental" with a 2 year old means a general anesthetic.

The $5000 is for the anesthesiologist.

That said, most of the time people just let the kid have the rotted teeth until the new ones come in, but these days, it seems to me, dentists are more aggressive about keeping the baby teeth or doing such things as root canals on the back molars of teenagers and then extracting the wisdom teeth when they come in because there is no room back there. But who is going to argue with a medical doctor, hm?

I blame the increase in Dental insurance.; २७/१/१०, १:३३ PM
Simon Kenton म्हणाले...: When I went to my little son's kindergarten, 2 things surprised me. First, I was thronged by little kids; felt like a great ape with all the young of the troop clambering on me. This was explained as the lack of daddies. Second was how many of these 5-year-olds had rotted upper incisors. When babies and toddlers their mommies had put them to sleep night after night with bottles filled with 7-up or cow's milk. It was thought pointless to do anything about this since the permanent teeth would come in in a couple years, so the kids got to live with the pain and stench of decay.

A 2-year-old needing dental work is not a good sign about the mother.; २७/१/१०, २:१० PM
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...: You guys are silly - Frances Hunter (Edwards - a girl, mind you) is "the reincarnated spirit of a Buddhist monk", damn it. At her age, it only stands to reason her teeth are rotten!

They'll turn into pearls as she ages,...; २७/१/१०, २:३२ PM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: "But crazy sluttitude has a bad-for-you appeal all its own, like a bag of pork rinds."

Well, according to the article, Edwards relies on the Atkins Diet, so pork rinds are just fine. Dig in!; २७/१/१०, २:४१ PM
Eric म्हणाले...: So John Edwards made a sex tape with his pregnant girlfriend while he was running for President. I don't think anyone will ever exhibit worse judgment.; २७/१/१०, ३:१९ PM
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...: Eric,

You're new to politics, aren't you?; २७/१/१०, ४:३२ PM
Eric म्हणाले...: Not at all, I just stand in awe of his audacity (good word, huh?). Taping it. And while she's pregnant, so it's easy to date and he can't say that it's an old tape if he ever gets so backed into a wall that he has to admit anything.; २७/१/१०, ७:२६ PM