९ डिसेंबर, २००९

Eugene Robinson on Tiger's women: "What's with the whole Barbie thing?"

"No offense to anyone who actually looks like Barbie, but it really is striking how much the women who've been linked to Woods resemble one another. I'm talking about the long hair, the specific body type, even the facial features. Mattel could sue for trademark infringement."

Really? Here's Barbie. Here's a montage of faces that have horizontally faced Tiger's. I'm sorry, Eugene, but these women are just not that pretty. Barbie is very pretty and glossy and made-up, but in a daytime, cheerleadery way. The Tiger women are all made-up for nighttime, indoor work, and they are not all that pretty. Tiger's wife is the Barbie. Tiger's women to cheat on Elin with are all getting away from Barbie/Elin. It strikes me as a touchingly ordinary search for sex that feels dirty.

A Woody Allen joke: "Is sex dirty? Only if it's done right."

Robinson rambles on:
If adultery is really about the power and satisfaction of conquest, Woods's self-esteem was apparently only boosted by bedding the kind of woman he thought other men lusted after -- the "Playmate of the Month" type that Hugh Hefner turned into the American gold standard.
Which Elin is, but — what is wrong with you, Eugene? — these other women are not!
But the world is full of beautiful women of all colors, shapes and sizes -- some with short hair or almond eyes, some with broad noses, some with yellow or brown skin. Woods appears to have bought into an "official" standard of beauty that is so conventional as to be almost oppressive.
What is wrong with Eugene Robinson? He is seeing race, race, race. The Tiger women look white to him — are they? — and, beyond that, some big hair, big makeup, and big boobs makes them Barbie. Hardly.
His taste in mistresses leaves the impression of a man who is, deep down, both insecure and image-conscious -- a control freak even when he's committing "transgressions."
I don't think so. I'd say he's a man who went for the Playmate ideal in choosing a wife and aimed low for cheating. He was the opposite of image conscious and controlling, and that's one of the reasons his fall from the god-like stature he had for us is so very long and hard.

***

If you clicked on the Barbie link and heard the voice of Barbie, don't you think she sounded an awful lot like Mira Sorvino in her Oscar-winning role — as a prostitute, naturally — in the Woody Allen movie "Mighty Aphrodite"? I say "naturally," because they are always handing out Oscars to actress who take on the amazing challenge of playing a whore.

Barbie, sluts, Woody, Woods...

२८७ टिप्पण्या:

«सर्वात जुने   ‹थोडे जुने   287 पैकी 201 – 287
Joe म्हणाले...

John, it is truly amazing how you just make shit up and pass judgment since almost everything you said about Elin simply isn't fact. Unless you personally know Elin, stating her motivations as fact is simply absurd. Hell, even if your comments were speculation they'd be idiotic since you don't know anything about her.

If he had selected his wife on the basis of something besides how good looking she was, he might not have been out sleeping with waitresses from Perkins.

What a load of crap. Given Tiger's known dalliances and the rumors that there were many more tells me that this is a man who wouldn't be faithful to anyone. It also tells me this is a man who simply cannot be trusted.

What's amazing to me is that Tiger's infidelities were apparently common knowledge among other golfers in part because he constantly bragged about his conquests.

careen म्हणाले...

Okay, I finally found the article and read it. (Give me a break, I have a monster cold and am on all kinds of cough medication lol.)

Hey, the makers of Barbi WISH she were Elin. Elin's the real thing. I understand Robinson's point. They're plastic women, literally with the exception of one or two. What they weren't born with, they tried to buy.

It could speak to a need for validation or it could speak to Tiger's porn collection and time spent in Las Vegas - if those aren't synonymous.

John म्हणाले...

"What's amazing to me is that Tiger's infidelities were apparently common knowledge among other golfers in part because he constantly bragged about his conquests."

And she didn't know that? She was either blindly naive or married him for his money anyway. Women don't marry rich men with a reputation for whoring around with their eyes closed.

I don't understand how anyone could find either one of them sympathetic.

It amazes me how men still think with their dicks even with women they will never meet. Elin is beautiful so she must be without fault. BS. She was either unbeleivably stupid and didn't know what he was. Or she did and married him anyway. You lie with dogs you get flees. But, she will still walk away with millions, which was probably the whole point anyway.

Revenant म्हणाले...

I say "naturally," because they are always handing out Oscars to actress who take on the amazing challenge of playing a whore.

It is probably too late to point this out, but so far as I know only three actresses have ever received an Oscar for playing prostitutes -- Mira Sorvino, Kim Basinger and Charlize Theron. It isn't a common thing by any means.

David म्हणाले...

@John:

Since you know absolutely nothing about Tiger's wife Elin apart from her looks and a couple of completely respectable jobs she had, your comments reveal nothing except your general unfavorable view of women and perhaps yourself.

David म्हणाले...

@John:

I missed the one where you are choosing between Halle Berry and Elin Woods. Now that's a real rip snorter.

Photog714 म्हणाले...

"the difference between black African-Americans and black non-African Americans is akin to bridging the Grand Canyon."

Not to white people. Black is black.

Steve M. Galbraith म्हणाले...

Guys, never have affairs with women who have their own websites or pages.

Sorry Ann. No late night romantic talks about why Learned Hand never was appointed to the Supreme Court.

Photog714 म्हणाले...

"In fact, the difference between black African-Americans and black non-African Americans is akin to bridging the Grand Canyon. On stilts."

Not to white people. Black is black. Get over it.

chickelit म्हणाले...

What about "Klute" Revenant?
And I'm not even fonda Jane.

chickelit म्हणाले...

Oh, and glad to see you back revenant.

AngelEyesGBU म्हणाले...

I agree that Elin looks the most like Barbie. The other "girls on the side" look more like the Bratz dolls. http://www.bratz.com/

knox म्हणाले...

Why does that make Tiger look worse? If anything that makes him look better. Maybe his wife is a shrew who really did marry him for his money and his mistress is nice to him?

Here's what it comes down to. There are other commenters on Althouse who display this bias. There's no convincing them otherwise. Bye, John. Sorry for you.

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

Janet Gaynor won the Best Actess award for playing a poor prostitute in Street Angel (1927/28),

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

Elizabeth Taylor won the Best Actress award in 1960 in Butterfield 8 where she played a high class call girl.

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

Shirley Jones (Mrs. Partridge) won the Best Supporting Actress as a prostitute in Elmer Gantry in 1960, a good year for prostitutes.

Of course JFK was presidents so whores were in with the in crowd.

The Internet म्हणाले...

Every guy knows you have hookers and girl friends to do the things you don't want done to the mother of your children

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

Susan Hayward won the Best Actess award in 1958 for "I Want to Live"
the Eliot Spitzer story.

knox म्हणाले...

o far as I know only three actresses have ever received an Oscar for playing prostitutes

Jane Fonda, Klute.

Now THAT's a shag. No pun intended.

chickelit म्हणाले...

Desist Adele- you're just making poor rev look bad.

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

Shirley Booth won a Best Actess in 1952 for the role as a tourtured wife in "Come Back Little Sheba."

Although she did not play a whore in her award winning role, she was in fact a whore in real life as anyone who saw her play "Hazel" in the 1960's can attest.

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

Michael Douglas won the Best Actor award in 1987 playing Wall Street whore Gordon Gekko.

He is currently working on a sequel reprising his role where his character goes to jail for income tax evasion and after his parole is named Treasury Secretary by the Obama Administration.

chickelit म्हणाले...

Although she did not play a whore in her award winning role, she was in fact a whore in real life as anyone who saw her play "Hazel" in the 1960's can attest.

Are you talking about Shelly Winters?

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

No Shirly Booth.

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

Shelly Winters did not play a prostitute in her Academy Award winning role in “A Place in the Sun.” Nor in her two supporting roles wins as Best Supporting Actress in “The Diary of Anne Frank” and “A Patch of Blue.” She did lose the award after being nominated for her seminal role in the Poseidon Adventure. She did however win an Olympic Gold Medal.

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

Shirley Booth is a very famous actress of yesteryear who is basically been forgotten now more know for being the lover of John WIlkes Booth whose name she chose to foster her acting career.

Powers Booth is her grandson.

chickelit म्हणाले...

Shelly Winters did not play a prostitute in her Academy Award winning role in “A Place in the Sun.

Well she used to play one as a guest on Carson's Tonight Show

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

No that was Ed McMahon.

He would laugh at anything for money.

chickelit म्हणाले...

I believe this thread has frayed.

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

No it has strayed.

In honor of it's subject: Tiger Woods.

chickelit म्हणाले...

No it has strayed.

In honor of it's subject: Tiger Woods.


Tiger was a John

chickelit म्हणाले...

wv: slzdger (I scheiss you nicht)

Adele Mundy म्हणाले...

I don't know. I think he acted like a Dick.

Joe म्हणाले...

And she didn't know that? She was either blindly naive or married him for his money anyway.

This is nuts. Even in high school there was locker room talk amongst the boys and I'm damn sure amongst the girls and things were said that weren't shared outside the locker room.

There are MANY situations where a spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend do something that is common knowledge amongst other people, but not known to their companion. That you don't know this, or do but refuse to concede it, is unbelievable.

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

I dont' see how a smart woman could not know that her husband was doing what Tiger was doing. The sheer numbers of the women he was sleeping with is kind of astounding. And if she was smart enough to know and didn't care, then she just married him for his money.

Yet that describes my girlfriend of the last 10 years. She was married for a bit over a decade, and during that time, accepted all of her husband's stories. It turns out that he is one of those people who has to have three women going at once (and still does as he heads towards 60). Usually, one coming in as one goes out.

She trusted because she had had no reason before in her life not to trust. Her father never cheated, despite having the looks that would have had women lined up if he had been available. He only had eyes for her mother. And still does.

What put an end to the marriage was his second child with another woman. The first was born shortly after the wedding, and he pretended that that kid was out of the country. But when the mother came by to show her the new kid, that was it.

Now, she knows she can't trust him, and double checks when he tells her that the sun is up. Now that she distrusts, she sees right through him. And he hates it, as she tells his girlfriends that, no, they aren't the only one in his life, and to look for who his other two are, because he always has three.

What is humorous though is that that mother of the two kids still calls her "Barbie", probably for the same reasons that Elin is called that. She still has the perfect athletic figure, large breasts, blue eyes, and a face right out off of a Mattel box, with a narrow chin and high cheekbones that don't stop. Oh, and she thinks she is (naturally) blond (I think she has light brown hair, but I get out voted 1-0).

The problem has gotten worse over time. Both women are now in their early 50s, and the mother of those two kids is seriously showing her age, even after a decent amount of of plastic surgery. Outing the affair doesn't seem to have helped her at all. She didn't get the guy (no surprise), and is ever more unlikely to get a husband period (not that many guys want a wife who has had multiple kids out of wedlock, esp. one who looks her age).

And my girlfriend? She believes that those high cheekbones are what keeps her face from sagging, wearing a bra to bed keeps her breasts from sagging, and working out every day keeps everything else from sagging. Which, when she wants to tease me, is why she gets away with telling people that I am her father (her real father was much better looking at my age).

Methadras म्हणाले...

Meade said...

Note to self: Never - even in jest - do or say anything (and I do mean ANYthing) disrespectful towards the Mrs' old Barbie collection.


So you didn't pop their heads off and put them in 69? Man, how puritanical are you?

kentuckyliz म्हणाले...

Speaking of woodpile--the plain girl in the photo gallery has some AA'ish features incl. kinky hair.

Why assume Elin's not sexually adventurous? Swedes have that reputation.

Why did everyone ignore the most obvious and extreme fact of Tiger's "racism":

of all the white women he bedded, he chose his breeder the whitest of them all to lighten up his kids. She's extremely white. You need sunglasses to look at her.

he'll boink a kinky haired brunette but he won't breed with her.

Methadras म्हणाले...

Now I'm not going to defend Tiger Woods. He's his own man and he has to live with the consequences of his actions, but I wonder if he's could be described as a classical serial sex addict. That is not an excuse by any stretch of the imagination. It makes me wonder if his father, in coaching him, used women to entice his son to perform better as a function of a reward for doing so. And in doing so, was conditioned to seek the attentions of other women as a reward for his good performances in his professional playing life.

Guys brag about sex. It's simply what guys do, so if other players knew about his sexual proclivities before he was married and yet his wife wouldn't have gotten a whiff of that during their romance from say, their other WAGS seems to be the luck of the draw for Tiger woods. However, that being said, there is no way that a guy like this could keep any of these women secret considering his prominence and marital status. Which makes me go back to the sex addict hypothesis because all of us, in hindsight wonder how he maintained all of these alleged women for so long until now? Just my 2 cents.

Methadras म्हणाले...

kentuckyliz said...

Why did everyone ignore the most obvious and extreme fact of Tiger's "racism":

of all the white women he bedded, he chose his breeder the whitest of them all to lighten up his kids. She's extremely white. You need sunglasses to look at her.

he'll boink a kinky haired brunette but he won't breed with her.


Are you seriously suggesting that TW's used a white woman to further dilute his darkness through his children?

Methadras म्हणाले...

John said...

"Who would you choose, Halle Berry or Elin Woods?"

I would take Berry. She seems to have a lot of magnatism about her. I never liked the 'barbie types'. Always liked more unconventional or exotic women.


I'd take both. I like the exotic and the barbie type. I'm married to a beautiful barbie, and she has an awesome wardrobe that would make Barbie jealous.

Methadras म्हणाले...

I just wanted to further elucidate that TW's wife is gorgeous. He's a fool. A rich, over-indulgent, entitled, manicured fool. Not old enough to know what he should by now.

Methadras म्हणाले...

The Drill SGT said...

Eugene is off his game. So Tiger should have practiced affirmative action and bonked a more diverse group of women. add some short ones, some fat ones and some uglier ones in to make it more representative?


Reverse affirmative action infidelity?

A.W. म्हणाले...

let me say a few things. first, let's be blunt. Robinson's comment about body shapes is a dodge because he didn't want to reduce it to race. the fact is a man can just like big boobs and maybe there is a racial disparity there, but its not racist or anything. And i have to wonder if Robinson practices what he preaches.

And yes woods could have practiced a little more equal opportunty in his cheating. And yes, i do think racial preference is per se wrong, even in choosing a mate. There are only limited exceptions to that rule.

But here's the thing. Just because it is wrong doesn't mean its something we should be getting into with him. Its wrong. Its wrong to do alot of things. But its also wrong to invade his space like that. He has the right to like what he likes.

All of which doesn't reduce my anger at Tiger for cheating on that wife of his. no excuses, bub and part of me would really respect her if she walked out on him. i know one of the reasons why i didn't respect hillary is she took bill's crap.

अनामित म्हणाले...

Not to white people. Black is black. - Photog714

Exactly. That's why 99% of white people will never understand Tiger's motivation, much less the African-American Barbie Complex.

Even when it plays out right in front of their baby-blue eyes.

Bongo Journalist म्हणाले...

Christ, what a bunch of pretentious losers! I suspect most of you dobs wind up looking at pictures of Elin (or maybe Tiger?) and whipping you fledgling puds between thumb and forefinger.

Don't leave that mess for Mommy to clean!

John म्हणाले...

Robinson missed the racism that was actually going on in this case. Elin Woods took a golf club after her husband. And no one seems to care. In fact some on here think it is cute. Now imagine if Elin Woods were a black woman and looked like Michelle Obama rather than barbie and did that. The media would have destroyed her. She would have been portrayed as a psychotic and Tiger's cheating would have been a side story. But since Elin is a cute thin white girl, no one cares.

That is racism. No way would a black woman get the kind of unthinking defense that Elin is getting.

Donna B. म्हणाले...

John says: "I never liked the 'barbie types'."

And there we have it folks... Elin is definitely a "Barbie" type in his mind.

That said, I don't condone Elin's wielding of the golf club.

Another stupid idea brought up on this thread is that some men don't cheat merely because they don't have the opportunity... Now tell me about the average married man who doesn't have the opportunity.

Men who don't cheat, don't cheat. Period. Even if they are very unhappy at home, they don't cheat.

Women are the same. Some don't cheat. Some do.

I don't know the underlying reasons for this, but I don't think religion is necessary for an aversion to cheating.

And... while I'm spouting off, I'm pretty tired of the dumb, sexually cold blonde meme being hinted at about Elin. And, the gold-digger meme.

Does anyone here really believe that skin and hair color have anything to do with brains or sexuality?

John म्हणाले...

"Does anyone here really believe that skin and hair color have anything to do with brains or sexuality?"

Of course they don't. Her actions do. We don't know that she is dumb or a gold digger. But it is pretty hard to imagine that a smart woman who wasn't interested in money would have married Tiger Woods given what we do know.

Again, imagine her as an average looking black woman who went after her husband with a golf club. She wouldn't get so much good press and have so many people willing to defend her.

अनामित म्हणाले...

Now imagine if Elin Woods were a black woman and looked like Michelle Obama... -- John

Shudder the thought!

But we can be sure that if given the same situation, Michelle would have taken a baseball-bat to Barack in a Chi-Town minute.

That's what Tiger meant when he [allegedly] complained that Elin had "gone ghetto" on him.

But going ghetto in this context has a more specific meaning; bringing out the bat after he's asleep - sound asleep.

John म्हणाले...

"That's what Tiger meant when he [allegedly] complained that Elin had "gone ghetto" on him."

He didn't really say that? Did he? Michelle got some big arms and would have put a hurt on him a lot more than some skinny white girl. But, that being said, if a black woman had pulled that, she would have gone to jail and been a pariah.

Bob From Ohio म्हणाले...

"But it is pretty hard to imagine that a smart woman who wasn't interested in money would have married Tiger Woods given what we do know."

How many people knew anything about Tiger's habits before this?

I say very few.

Not the general public. Not the advertisers.

Likely the guys on the tour and his caddie, agent, accountant etc.

The chances of the golf people telling her is about zero. As pointed out, jocks don't tell on other jocks. His employees certainly would not.

She dated him and followed him around on tour. Then the kids came and the touring stopped. Except he continued to tour. He was out of town for at least a quarter of the year, plenty of opportunity to cheat without her knowing it.

Jennie Stanford is a very smart and successful woman but Gov. Stanford still cheated on her in a humiliating manner. Mrs. Spitzer is well educated and from a sophisticated background. Do you think she was surprised at her man, the governor of a great state?

Stop blaming her, Tiger is the guy at fault. To think otherwise, especially in the way you are arguing, says much about you, little about her.

chickelit म्हणाले...

Aaron wrote:

And yes, i do think racial preference is per se wrong, even in choosing a mate. There are only limited exceptions to that rule.

I disagree with that Aaron. The problem is that someone could look at two people and say, hey, those two people are both white-they must be racists if they didn't consider an interracial marriage.

I once knew a British woman who confessed that she had had a black boyfriend "because it was politically correct". She eventually married (to a white guy). Last time I saw her, she was talking about how she owed it to son to imbue him with a sense of guilt over Britain's colonial past. I was aghast, but that's just the kind of person she was.

So please no affirmative action in choices of mates.

John म्हणाले...

"Jennie Stanford is a very smart and successful woman but Gov. Stanford still cheated on her in a humiliating manner. Mrs. Spitzer is well educated and from a sophisticated background. Do you think she was surprised at her man, the governor of a great state?"

What you think Stanford believed that Mark Stanford was really heading off to the nude hikers weekend on the Appalacian trial. Both of the women you mention probably knew full well what kind of men their husbands were and chose to be with them because they liked the perks of being with powerful and rich men. Further, I don't think either one of them have left their husbands. I know Spitzer never got a divorce. So, they clearly were not that upset by it or they would have divorced their husbands.

It astounds me how naive people are. Just because she is cute and blond doesn't mean that she didn't know what she was getting into or had pure motives herself. Most rich have wives who married them for their money. It is one of the drawbacks of being really rich and famous.

John म्हणाले...

"Stop blaming her, Tiger is the guy at fault. To think otherwise, especially in the way you are arguing, says much about you, little about her."

If I married a very rich woman woman who cheated on me repeatedly, I would at some level be responsible for being a bad judge of people. It wouldn't excuse her actions or make her any better. But it would say something bad about my judgement and motivation for marrying her.

You can pretend that there is no way she could have known. Tiger was perfect. Bullshit. Life doesn't work that way. You don't just become the kind of guy who goes around with a personal pimp who sets you up with woman and on top of that sleeping with Perkins waitresses while your wife is pregnant. But, when you have a billion dollars, women are willing to make a few accomadations for your hobbies and character flaws.

John म्हणाले...

And Bob from Ohio I do blame her for physically attacking her husband. Apparently in Althouse world being cute and blong excuses everything, including physical assault. Once again, a pox on both of their houses. Trailer trash with money is all they are.

अनामित म्हणाले...

Here's a little more context for white world: Remember the opposing reactions to the OJ verdict? African Americans were elated, while white jaws dropped to the ground.

Yet, the outcome was entirely predictable the minute Marsha Clarke entered the courtroom.

And I believe Gil Garcetti was truly colorblind, that is, incredibly naive and inexperienced when it came to African American juries. So much so that he insulted them with a wash-wear prosecutor, her rear orifice stapled shut.

Then to naively add insult to injury, he sent in an oreo (Chris Darden) to calm the sneering jury.

And how many years did it take white-world to trap OJ in Las Vegas and exact their righteous indignation. Which by all legal standards amounted to cruel and unusual punishment.

BladeDoc म्हणाले...

Maybe the black and asian chicks are just classy enough to keep their mouths shut.

Dark Eden म्हणाले...

Ali do you ever touch yourself while imagining doing bad things to those bad white people from white world?

अनामित म्हणाले...

Thus far, there's only one completely unknown quantity here: Elin.

And I say she still holds all the cards. "Money" per se is no longer the issue, assuming it ever was.

In her favor, reports have Tiger banished to his yacht. In his favor, enough money to go around.

Still, I'm keenly interested in how she handles this. Until then she remains a mystery.

By all accounts, she wants to live on an island. To be left alone, removed from the blinding limelight.

(Which reminds me)

अनामित म्हणाले...

Ali do you ever touch yourself while imagining doing bad things to those bad white people from white world? - Dark Eden

Since I'm white, that would be your department. Pilgrim.

Matthew Noto म्हणाले...

Robinson is sort aright. I mean,t here's Malibu Barbie, Surfing Barbie, and so forth.

Maybe Tiger just went for Sperm-burping Barbie?

William म्हणाले...

You can take the Swede out of the long boat, but you can't take the longboat out of the Swede. Elin went all Viking on Tiger's ass, and he was lucky to escape with a mild concussion. This voracious Norsewoman is now on the loose. I only pray that in her desperate need for more sex with godlike naifs she does not crash some White House function and make a play for Obama. That poor innocent would be play doh in her hands, and she would spike Michelle's guns in a Stockholm minute. Our nation is not safe until this avatar killer is safely deported. Let her go back to her native land and get it on with the Dalai Lama or whomever. God save us from the Norsewomen.

HT म्हणाले...

Maybe the fist pumps and self congratulation type behavior whenever he makes a putt will now cease, as will the galleries' cries (audible on TV!) of "GET IN THE HOLE!" at tournies. How obnoxious.(though people shout that for others, too, not just Tiger.)

Revenant म्हणाले...

Not to white people. Black is black.

Not true. American blacks tend to whine a lot about how it is impossible for black people to succeed in America. Black Africans who move to America are generally too busy succeeding here to whine.

It is quite easy to spot the difference, whether one is white, black, green or polka-dotted.

JAL म्हणाले...

Joh @ 3:03 Show me a marriage that works where the billionaire marries the waitress or the nanny?

Can you name Matt Damon's wife?

vbspurs म्हणाले...

So let me get this straight, Mr. Robinson. Tiger is a self-hating racist because he dates blonde Barbies?

Given your logic, I'm surprised you don't commend the blonde Barbies for not being racist for dating a black guy.

Cheers,
Victoria

vbspurs म्हणाले...

Why doesn't anyone mention the famous men who are black, who dedicated their lives to talking about blacks, yet married white women?

Dr. Leopold Senghor, President of Senegal, founder of the "Negritude" movement who wrote stirring poems about the beauty of black women...and who married a white blonde Frenchwoman.

Julian Bond, NAACP legend and civil rights leader...married a white woman.

Johnnie Cochran...helped to set free a murderer of viciously killing his white wife by using race-baiting tactics...married a white woman.

There is absolutely no problem in them marrying white women, despite the bizarre illogical quality of their actions given their championship of their race. But why is it that Tiger, who is only 1/4th black, gets the brunt of Eugene Robinson's ire, noting he likes white honeys, meanwhile the others never get scolded for exactly the same?

Cheers,
Victoria

vbspurs म्हणाले...

wv: cries! You cry baby Eugene Robinson you.

kentuckyliz म्हणाले...

A little short relevant video for your viewing pleasure.

clicky

WV mensin
bwah aha hahahahahaaaaa!

kentuckyliz म्हणाले...

Another short video for your viewing pleasure.

clicky

Scott M म्हणाले...

@Never-will-be-like-Ali

Interesting that you cite the OJ case and the difference in reaction to the verdict between white and black.

I was back in school when that happened. I remember it very clearly. I was at the fitness center on campus out in the lobby where there was a very large TV tuned to CNN. A large crowd had gathered because everyone knew what time the verdict was going to be read. The crowd was very quiet, but you could have cut the tension with a knife. A spoon, for that matter. I purposefully put myself in the back of the crowd to watch the reaction.

When the Not Guilty verdict was read, it was exactly as you say. Black elation and white jaw-dropping. Mine included at how black-and-white (pardon the pun) the differences were.

Here's the rub, though. HE FUCKING KILLED THOSE TWO PEOPLE and got away with it. The fact that he's in jail because he was stupid enough to pull that hotel bullshit has got nothing to do with it.

A black woman I work with put this whole Tiger Woods thing into perspective for me yesterday. The fact that Tiger slept with all white women and married a white woman does piss off a lot of black women. That's a fact. The problem is that this is somehow held out to be a problem with America in general. It is not. It is a problem with black America and an insecurity issue. There's not a damned thing white America, brown America, yellow America, or red America can do about black men choosing women of another race over their own.

Which brings forth the last little bit of irony before I'm completely done with this topic.

You simply cannot have it both ways and expect logical, rational people to go along with you. Either you're for multiculturalism, anti-racism, and color-blindness...or you think the tribalism displayed in someone thinking a person of race x should only pick sexual and matrimonial partners from race x.

Anything else is bigotry.

Shanna म्हणाले...

When the Not Guilty verdict was read, it was exactly as you say. Black elation and white jaw-dropping. Mine included at how black-and-white (pardon the pun) the differences were.

Yeah, I was in high school when that happened and it still sticks in my mind. It was just so bizarre to have people cheering someone getting away scott free with murder. Now, maybe some of those people thougth he was innocent, I don't know. It's pretty obvious at this point that he wasn't, especially considering he wrote an f'ing book saying "i totally did it". Which makes all that cheering seem downright INSANE to look back on. I wonder what those folks who cheered think of that now.

अनामित म्हणाले...

Did you draw any objective lessons from the opposing reactions?

Are we a nation of laws, or of men?

Revenant म्हणाले...

What about "Klute" Revenant?

I forgot about Klute. Ok, four actresses then -- two Best Actress, two Best Supporting. That's out of 160+ awards.

amba म्हणाले...

"old Barbie collection"? ALTHOUSE!!

(vw unelyg -- those other women sure were)

amba म्हणाले...

They girls all share a certain..."over-processed" look.

A new meaning for "spam"?

amba म्हणाले...

Peter Hoh:

"corona" is a bad translation. krans, or at least its cognate in German, Krantz, means "wreath."

So "slit-wreath" is probably a more accurate -- and less clinical and more intriguing, if you ask me -- translation.

vw: steaturv

(being knocked on your ass by an eyeful of steatopygia?)

amba म्हणाले...

Did young Tiger realize how much power he was giving up?

Real whores will tell you it's often the most powerful men who like to play slaves. Losing control is the whole point, maybe even more than--and inseparably from--"dirty."

If I had to have the excruciating self-control it takes to play great golf, I'd go a little crazy for release, too.

amba म्हणाले...

Bart Hall 12/9 2:14: Bravo.

vw: foopedlh

amba म्हणाले...

That "bravo" was both for your marriage and for what you said about marriage.

amba म्हणाले...

I don't always notice whose comment I'm reading, but if the word "Jewish" is slipped in there I then make a guess it's Cedarford, and I'm almost always right!

vw inallat (of trouble)

amba म्हणाले...

John: whatever else it was, getting married was part of Tiger's megamillion-dollar image, which so many naïve youngsters took to heart and megacorporations banked on. His family looks like a Benetton ad, and he must have been aware of how it looked. It was part of the façade underneath which he could, so he thought, continue to pursue his drives.

(Pardon the pretentious accents; I have fun with 'em.)

vw hempon -- a biodegradable green tampon?

amba म्हणाले...

How soon do you think Tiger goes into treatment for sex addiction

amba म्हणाले...

Tiger probably does it doggie, despite his name.

Tigers, too, do it from above and behind.

amba म्हणाले...

Ali - but Tiger is also buddies with Thierry Henry, Derek Jeter and Roger Federer. 3 non-brothas.

Derek Jeter is a half-brotha, din't ya know?

amba म्हणाले...

name me a marriage that works where there is such a disparity between the level of success between the two parties?

Robin Williams. Married his kid's nanny.

Meade म्हणाले...

"Robin Williams. Married his kid's nanny."

Ooh.

«सर्वात जुने ‹थोडे जुने   287 पैकी 201 – 287   नवीन› नवीनतम»