Althouse: "Hundreds of Kabul University students led the latest protest, burning an effigy of US President Barack Obama."

२५ ऑक्टोबर, २००९

"Hundreds of Kabul University students led the latest protest, burning an effigy of US President Barack Obama."

There are inflammatory rumors that Americans burned a Koran.

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Big Mike म्हणाले...: There have been protests in the Afghan capital, Kabul, over allegations that foreign troops in the country burnt a copy of the Koran.

Again? I thought that was only supposed to happen when George Bush was president.; २५/१०/०९, ४:३६ PM
Alex म्हणाले...: I should be able to defecate and burn a 100 Korans without Muslims violently rioting. They should understand the spirit of freedom!; २५/१०/०९, ४:४८ PM
Unknown म्हणाले...: Alex said...

I should be able to defecate and burn a 100 Korans without Muslims violently rioting. They should understand the spirit of freedom!

They should, but they don't. Islam really isn't a great religion, as much as it is a way of keeping people down, not unlike the welfare state.

In any case, they were supposed to love us now. Maybe they see the sellout coming.; २५/१०/०९, ४:५४ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Well, Barack Obama is lobbing Hellfire missiles into Pakistan, killing innocent women and children. Can you really expect anything less than an effigy-burning?

When Obama is stopping in-progress trials and running a habeas corpus-free gulag at Guantanamo Bay, can you expect the natives to be happy?

Obama restarted the renditions, kidnapping innocent people for torture sessions. What did you expect? Of course they're going to burn him.

Obama rejected Islam and Allah and became a Christian. He's an apostate. Their Qur 'An leaves no doubt what the punishment is for such a "crime."

What ever happened to MoveOn.Org by the way? Cindy Sheehan?

Their President is killing innocent bystanders using remote control aircraft and weapons of mass killing ... don't they care about the children?

The children?

After getting the Peace Prize, Barack "Hussein The Horrible" Obama sent more troops to put boots on more necks in Afghanistan.

You'd think there'd be an outcry.

Or something.; २५/१०/०९, ४:५५ PM
Adrian म्हणाले...: These students clearly mean business. They surely knew that, had they burned a Bible in retaliation, the worst that would have happened would have been an NEA grant award. But, burning Obama - sacrilege! This will get attention!; २५/१०/०९, ५:०१ PM
rhhardin म्हणाले...: To be fair, our university students aren't very bright either.; २५/१०/०९, ५:०४ PM
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...: Because that's what Americans are most well-known for - burning Korans.

Why do we persist is engaging with those idiots?

The Macho Response.; २५/१०/०९, ५:१० PM
knox म्हणाले...: To be fair, our university students aren't very bright either.

LMAO; २५/१०/०९, ५:१२ PM
Wince म्हणाले...: The Taliban is only breaking out this kind of psy-ops now?

Makes the cynic in me ask whether somebody on "our side" might be seeking political cover for a pull-out.; २५/१०/०९, ५:२१ PM
Cedarford म्हणाले...: Just another weekend in Islam. Islamoids killing Islamoids over rumors of American Koran burning, and over in Iraq, Bush's noble democracy-loving freedom lovers are busy either packing car bombs or picking up body parts while they ululate.
Two big bombs in Bahgdad killed almost 200, maimed and/or wounded 500.

We are supposed to care???

Trust me, there will be lots of Islamoid killings while The One is President.
Lefties, get used to the new normal.

Why, you can even blame Obama like you blamed the credulous, stupid Bush everytime a raghead killed other ragheads.
Bush and the Neocons kept saying that Islamoids were noble freedom lovers hungry for democracy..except of course the ones the Zionists told them such and such Islamoids were not freedom lovers..

No?

You mean Obama isn't a MURDERER! No "war crimes trials"??; २५/१०/०९, ५:३७ PM
traditionalguy म्हणाले...: These guys have nothing to live for except their religion. No oil wealth, no trade except for heroin, no hope for a good job if they work hard. So they cling to guns and religion to the death. I say let them have what they want and save our military for a real defense of the USA that is not just helping out Pakistan, Russia and China.; २५/१०/०९, ५:३८ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: They smell weakness and exploit it. The Islamists want Kabul more than Obama does.; २५/१०/०९, ५:५४ PM
former law student म्हणाले...: tradguy is right. The Afghans are just bitter clingers like the Pennsylvanians. We should send a Scrantonian solidarity force, something like the Peace Corps, to work with the locals.

Why would American soldiers want to burn a Koran, anyway? How would they get a Koran? How would they even know it was a Koran -- all of our translators having been kicked out for being gay, right?; २५/१०/०९, ६:०० PM
Big Mike म्हणाले...: I agree with knox. rhhardin wins the thread hands down!

@FLS asks "How would they get a Koran? How would they even know it was a Koran?"

Good questions. I know from talking to someone who had been there that in Saudia Arabia the possession of a Koran by an infidel brings out the religious police and they mean business. I had assumed that it would be the same in all Moslem countries, but perhaps not.; २५/१०/०९, ६:०५ PM
Penny म्हणाले...: "Makes the cynic in me ask whether somebody on "our side" might be seeking political cover for a pull-out."

You took the words from my mouth, EDH.

Although I must say I wish it had been rh who took the words from my mouth. That was funny, rh!; २५/१०/०९, ६:२५ PM
Peter V. Bella म्हणाले...: Their college students are no different than ours- they have nothing better to do than propagate lies so they can get on TV.

Hey, are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson over there? They are known for publicity stunts like this.

As to burning the effigy- better wait until CNN entertainment fact checks that.; २५/१०/०९, ६:४० PM
Cedarford म्हणाले...: FLS - Why would American soldiers want to burn a Koran, anyway? How would they get a Koran? How would they even know it was a Koran -- all of our translators having been kicked out for being gay, right?

This is a favorite liberal/homosexual activist theme..that a small number of translators who drew attention from hitting on high school boys were tossed out of the service. A handful, in the ranks of tens of thousands in the military or available as contractors when the stupid security clearance delays are managable.
No, the military in peacetime or war, accounts for slop. Both casualties and those discarded because of screwups. The gay linguists were not discrete and were making trouble with nearby civilians. So ta ta! They thought they were valuable...but it turns out not that valuable. In the nuke weapons mishandling incident, Def Secretary Gates did a bloodletting of 20 or so far more important and qualified people than the Army translators. And like with the small crew of linguists...did it for the good of the service.

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Big Mike - know from talking to someone who had been there that in Saudia Arabia the possession of a Koran by an infidel brings out the religious police and they mean business.

Incorrect. In the Gulf War, the Saudis were handing them out to American troops. They just didn't want anyone waving a forbidden Bible around and were acting like ACLU Jews when it came to US troops celebrating Christmas (while in Saudi shopping malls, it was Christmas decorations galore.)

In Saudi military conversation with us, many of the common phrases they used were right out of the Qu'ran, so AF put out a small pamphlet of them and referenced them to source. The Saudis then ADDED more expressions they thought were important.

My english language Qu'ran copy came from a Saudi officer, printed in Pakistan. I told him half-jokingly I would try to repicrocate by sending him a Bible in Arabic..He smiled but said "Seriously, DON'T do such a thing! It would be incredible trouble for me if it was found."

He was game for me reciprocating with beer and scotch whiskey if he got sent back to the US for another tour...but that never happened.; २५/१०/०९, ७:१० PM
Penny म्हणाले...: The picture of the effigy is much larger in the LA Times. The participants appear to be partying, most with smiles on their faces.

Are they smiling at the thought of burning Obama and what he stands for, or are these a group of kids out doing what college kids do?

Angry protesters scare me more than smiling protesters.; २५/१०/०९, ७:१३ PM
kentuckyliz म्हणाले...: Racists!; २५/१०/०९, ७:१६ PM
kentuckyliz म्हणाले...: When some college kids hung Obama in effigy shortly before the election, people freaked out and the whole university had to self-flagellate its racism away.

When some college kids hung Palin in effigy shortly before the election, there was no outrage, because the bitch deserved it.; २५/१०/०९, ७:१८ PM
former law student म्हणाले...: When some college kids hung Palin in effigy shortly before the election, there was no outrage

When did that happen?

Googling only shows:

1. Homeowner Chad Morisette (of West Hollywood, CA) (One, non-student)
2. Hanged Palin in effigy as part of a Halloween display. (Halloween of course being shortly before the election.)
3. There was international outrage.

4. Chad took it down.; २५/१०/०९, ७:३६ PM
rcocean म्हणाले...: We need to send our super-smart atheists like Dawkins and Harris there. They'll convince them in no time that religion is just a fairy tale and Mohammad was a scam artist.

Of course, that's after they stop in Israel and tell the Jews they aren't God's chosen because "God" is imaginary - like a "spaghetti monster".; २५/१०/०९, ७:३६ PM
Big Mike म्हणाले...: @C4, I yield to your first-hand information. My acquaintance was in Saudia Arabia before the First Gulf War and he told a story of buying a beautifully illustrated Koran and being confronted by a member of the religious police backed by a group of angry-looking men. The Koran was confiscated on the spot.

Perhaps he was being scammed? Perhaps the religious police fellow interpreted his mandate in an overzealous way? Perhaps attitudes changed in the interim?; २५/१०/०९, ८:१० PM
Fred4Pres म्हणाले...: Americans will heat their big houses with burning Korans when the oil runs out.; २५/१०/०९, ८:२९ PM
Penny म्हणाले...: I am going back to what EDH said earlier.

"Makes the cynic in me ask whether somebody on "our side" might be seeking political cover for a pull-out."

It might be "our side", but now that Karzai is being forced into another election, it might also be "their side" utilizing such tricks.

Interesting when "sides" get blurred.; २५/१०/०९, ८:३५ PM
JAL म्हणाले...: Cindy Sheehan?

Cindy Sheehan was in Asheville, NC this past week. Interviewed on the local populist / libertarian type talk show. Spoke in a church building. She's on some "tour."

Angry that the Democrats have proven to be anti-Bush, not anti-war.

No one Blue returns her calls.

Duh.; २५/१०/०९, ९:३० PM
paul a'barge म्हणाले...: Someone burned a Koran?

One can only wish. Islam is a cult. It needs to be described and treated as such.; २५/१०/०९, १०:१९ PM
Penny म्हणाले...: Not sure why Cindy Sheehan was on your mind, JAL? But since she was...

Would you suggest she rethink her beliefs, or just get a new Hollywoodish agent? Or maybe you were suggesting that she get used to her fifteen minutes of fame being over...unless and until her position catapults back into vogue?; २५/१०/०९, १०:२७ PM
Cedarford म्हणाले...: Big Mike - we may both be right. The Saudis I met were no fans of the self-annointed Religious police, who are not only dickheads, but inconsistent dickheads..where what is permissable one week suddenly is "an outrage!!" the next...then someone high up settles them down and things are back in cruise control.
But it is true our friends the Saudis - perhaps outside the religious police - were out trying to convert, handing out religious tracts holy book verses & copies...while waving a Bible at them was the cultural equivalent of throwing bacon or bending their virgin daughter over a HUMVEE hood. And shopping, quite a few Saudis were trying to sell Islamic religious themed articles to us infidels.

While over at the shopping mall, it had secular Christmas decorations with Saudis buying the stuff. Stuff the ACLU would be "upset and suing" about if found in our malls or schools. (In KSA Islam, angels are cool).

It is a messed up country.; २५/१०/०९, १०:३६ PM
Gary Rosen म्हणाले...: "C4, I yield to your first-hand information"

Bwahaha. Everything C-fudd says is made up. For instance he obsessively insists he is not a boomer, like a used-up hooker worrying about her age, but evidence says otherwise:

http://tinyurl.com/cl2t9t
http://tinyurl.com/yfkesax

On another thread he claimed to have a teenage son. That is easily disposed of - NO FUCKING WAY does this creepy little perv, who frantically defended Roman Polanski, have any children. That tells you a lot about Fudd right there - the only Jew he has ever expressed any sympathy for is Polanski. Holocaust victims? Fuck 'em. The reality is that this loser in his 50s has probably never been laid.; २५/१०/०९, १०:३६ PM
Penny म्हणाले...: "Americans will heat their big houses with burning Korans when the oil runs out."

Heck, ugly Americans would heat their homes with their neighbors' burning bodies if there was no other source of fuel.

Fortunately, Fred, Americans seem to take their survival seriously, thereby planning well in advance.; २५/१०/०९, ११:०२ PM
Ralph L म्हणाले...: Penny, I'm saving my neighbors for food, not warmth.
He was game for me reciprocating with beer and scotch whiskey if he got sent back to the US
My dad trained some Turkish naval officers 40 years ago. The Koran said they couldn't drink wine, it said nothing about whiskey.; २६/१०/०९, १२:२५ AM
miller म्हणाले...: In a multicultural world all points of view have value. Some people value free speech, other people do not. You just have to learn to accept them as your equal, because your point of view is merely personal, not universal.

I suppose if I scribble in a Koran the response might not be so bad - merely a look of stern disapproval?; २६/१०/०९, १०:२० AM
Big Mike म्हणाले...: @Gary, I call cheap shot.; २६/१०/०९, ११:३० AM
Gary Rosen म्हणाले...: Big Mike:

Cheaper than this?

http://minx.cc/?post=66320
(scroll down to #51)

I stand by everything I wrote about Fudd, especially 1) defending Polanski and 2) his neurotic age obsession, e. g. he posted to the Soupy Sales thread just to "prove" he wasn't old enough to remember Sales.; २७/१०/०९, १२:१९ AM