This video looks real enough to me. This doesn't look like the "death" that CNN producers see on their TV screens from cop shows and CSI so they're not certain.
It sure looked real to me, but what do I know? I found it difficult to watch; I almost felt like I was watching a snuff film.
One thing that might be confusing people is that they think they are *watching her death* when, in fact, they may actually be *watching the last few minutes of her life.* Thus, viewers see what they interpret as inconsistencies, and dismiss the possibility that there are significant indicators of death that are not being filmed.
All of the most horrible things I've seen in my life were videos from the middle east: Stoning, shooting women in stadiums, beheading, plus all the images of things I've read about happening. "The cradle of civilization."
Jesus. I could only watch the first little bit. In that short time and on my small iphone screen, I couldn't tell if the people in the video were killing her or trying to save her. Had to ask a braver soul what happened. Even that short bit was enough to make we want to add an "emotional Jennifer" tag to this comment.
The older man in the video is her father. According to a translation provided to Nico Pitney, her father is saying "Neda, don't be afraid. Neda, don't be afraid. Neda, stay with me. Neda stay with me!"
Jason: Unfortunately, there is no accounting for taste much less respect. Titus has neither and probably receives much more of the latter than he deserves. JMO, of course.
Randy and Jason, we need to be fair. Perhaps where Titus lives young people bleeding out in front of their parents is commonplace and he doesn't get why the rest of us are reacting as we are.
In downtown Washington, DC, something like this happens almost daily.
But I have worked as an RN in ICU in one of my other lives.
This is not "apparent" death.
This is dying - violently dying. You are watching the death of a lovely young Iranian woman. Fortunately (can there be such a thing in cases like this?) it was very fast.
My heart is very sad for her father, mother, family and friends. And the people of Iran who would like to be more free.
Don't tell me. The Iranian demonstrators have no Second Amendment rights. The Iranian women need to trade their burquas for holsters and 45 automatics. That would end the war of civilizations started by the hate filled and insane mad-mullah brutes overnight.
ABC News' Lara Setrakian writes, "Hearing reports Neda was buried in Behesht Zahra cemetery earlier today, memorial service cancelled on orders from authorities."
@Charles, the word "apparent" is in the CNN online article, and was not introduced by the Professor. Most of us on this thread who've seen death up close and personal agree that we were watching a young woman bleed out.
@amba "There were tweets that the regime was putting out disinformation saying the video was faked. So anyone who picks up on that is sucking poison."
Oh, there were tweets! Well, then! Come on, let's be rational. Keep clear about what is known and what isn't known. People on all sides are doing things with Twitter and YouTube. They are fighting hard for what they want, and we are here at a distance, a target of manipulation. You are making yourself an agent of propaganda, giving orders about what can be looked at skeptically. That is exactly what makes me skeptical. Anyone who doubts X is a bad person. If you don't want to be a bad person, you'd better not doubt X. It's that kind of thought-disciplining that really is poison. Look at all the evidence, and don't think you know what isn't yet proven.
The reason CNN put "apparent" in its story is because we see something in a video and it isn't verified. Look how powerful the video is. That shows why people have a motivation to fake videos.
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Apparent death? Apparent?
David Gregory changed the subject faster than a dog wags it's tail.
Apparent death? What's next: Neda truthers?
They are already out there, Peter.
This video looks real enough to me. This doesn't look like the "death" that CNN producers see on their TV screens from cop shows and CSI so they're not certain.
plse rember my twittering too.
having more hog tday.
Sorry, Titus. Will do my best to remember that this is all about you.
my balls r swting
It sure looked real to me, but what do I know? I found it difficult to watch; I almost felt like I was watching a snuff film.
One thing that might be confusing people is that they think they are *watching her death* when, in fact, they may actually be *watching the last few minutes of her life.* Thus, viewers see what they interpret as inconsistencies, and dismiss the possibility that there are significant indicators of death that are not being filmed.
hoh bless u
count my vote.
stop killing people.
dnt frget titus.
hog is sweating.
All of the most horrible things I've seen in my life were videos from the middle east: Stoning, shooting women in stadiums, beheading, plus all the images of things I've read about happening. "The cradle of civilization."
iranian pussy smells like hot steaming tabouli in streets of tehran.
tweet out.
hope tweets make u understan plight titus is gng thru
@Frodo, good clarification.
Jesus. I could only watch the first little bit. In that short time and on my small iphone screen, I couldn't tell if the people in the video were killing her or trying to save her. Had to ask a braver soul what happened. Even that short bit was enough to make we want to add an "emotional Jennifer" tag to this comment.
Titus.
I know you're not big on decorum. But give it a rest, will ya?
Maybe if she died of AIDS you'd have a little more respect?
The older man in the video is her father. According to a translation provided to Nico Pitney, her father is saying "Neda, don't be afraid. Neda, don't be afraid. Neda, stay with me. Neda stay with me!"
Jason: Unfortunately, there is no accounting for taste much less respect. Titus has neither and probably receives much more of the latter than he deserves. JMO, of course.
Randy and Jason, we need to be fair. Perhaps where Titus lives young people bleeding out in front of their parents is commonplace and he doesn't get why the rest of us are reacting as we are.
In downtown Washington, DC, something like this happens almost daily.
I didn't mean disrespect to this woman.
I think it is awful.
I do have a heart.
Althouse loves Titus and his writing - any disrepect shown him is disrespect to her.
As always, Titus is right, and anyone who complains, just doesn't "get it".
Forget the dead Iranian, and let's hear more about Titus.
Pogo has not posted.
But I have worked as an RN in ICU in one of my other lives.
This is not "apparent" death.
This is dying - violently dying. You are watching the death of a lovely young Iranian woman. Fortunately (can there be such a thing in cases like this?) it was very fast.
My heart is very sad for her father, mother, family and friends. And the people of Iran who would like to be more free.
Sad but seriously, who cares?
Get out your cameras here in America and video people killed in crimes all over this country.
Go to Israel and the territories and watch the Palestinians and fewer Israelis die.
Go to Iraq and Afghanistan and video the 60,000+++ civilians who've been slaughtered.
Iran's politics are for the Iranians.
TitusTweetingfromTehran --
"I didn't mean disrespect to this woman.
I think it is awful.
I do have a heart."
He says after eight disrespectful posts indicating he doesn't.
TitusTweetingfromTehran said...
my balls r swting
Then take them out of your mouth.
I have an idea, jaydee.
Got somewhere where you can't write whatever you want whenever you want.
Send us a postcard.
Don't tell me. The Iranian demonstrators have no Second Amendment rights. The Iranian women need to trade their burquas for holsters and 45 automatics. That would end the war of civilizations started by the hate filled and insane mad-mullah brutes overnight.
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
Scores dead that we don't know
ABC News' Lara Setrakian writes, "Hearing reports Neda was buried in Behesht Zahra cemetery earlier today, memorial service cancelled on orders from authorities."
I am wondering if Neda Soltani's murder will be the mullahs biggest mistake.
New on youtube --
Neda's passport picture and a song
Neda Soltani's Passport Photo
Now, I'm just aghast.
There were tweets that the regime was putting out disinformation saying the video was faked. So anyone who picks up on that is sucking poison.
You don't have to be a doctor to know you're seeing death and hearing frantic denial and despair.
And Titus, you finally lost me.
Neda was 27 years-old and studying philosophy in college.
What is your point in highlighting "Apparent". I hope you're being ironic. I broke down in sobs watching her die.
...as she watched me do nothing.
@Charles, the word "apparent" is in the CNN online article, and was not introduced by the Professor. Most of us on this thread who've seen death up close and personal agree that we were watching a young woman bleed out.
@amba "There were tweets that the regime was putting out disinformation saying the video was faked. So anyone who picks up on that is sucking poison."
Oh, there were tweets! Well, then! Come on, let's be rational. Keep clear about what is known and what isn't known. People on all sides are doing things with Twitter and YouTube. They are fighting hard for what they want, and we are here at a distance, a target of manipulation. You are making yourself an agent of propaganda, giving orders about what can be looked at skeptically. That is exactly what makes me skeptical. Anyone who doubts X is a bad person. If you don't want to be a bad person, you'd better not doubt X. It's that kind of thought-disciplining that really is poison. Look at all the evidence, and don't think you know what isn't yet proven.
The reason CNN put "apparent" in its story is because we see something in a video and it isn't verified. Look how powerful the video is. That shows why people have a motivation to fake videos.
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