Althouse: "They're freaking jungle-drums... It's racist -- it tries to conjure up deep, dark African moods. Yeah, it's overtly racial."

२६ ऑक्टोबर, २००६

"They're freaking jungle-drums... It's racist -- it tries to conjure up deep, dark African moods. Yeah, it's overtly racial."

I was one of the people who thought that anti-Harold Ford TV ad was meant to stir up racial feelings, but I think the complaints about this new radio ad are ridiculous. There's a complete mismatch between the criticism and the actual drums in the ad.

It's terrible to use racism in politics, but who's doing it more? Are Corker supporters trying to make people feel a racist antagonism toward Ford, or are Ford supporters trying to make people think Corker is a racist? Both things are wrong, and both sides should be careful to avoid even the appearance that they are doing anything like this. But at some point claiming you've perceived racism makes you look dishonest or paranoid... mostly dishonest.

३६ टिप्पण्या:

Brian Doyle म्हणाले...: To be honest, I didn't think the TV ad was obviously racist. The first time I saw it I was more incensed at the "Terrorists need their privacy" line.

But those sure do sound like "jungle drums" in the radio ad.; २६/१०/०६, ९:३५ AM
Beth म्हणाले...: I saw that "jungle drum" post last night, linked from a liberal blog--I can't remember which--whose author said he thought the claim was ridiculous. That's good. I listened, and it's absurd to call those "jungle drums" or "tom toms" or whatever.; २६/१०/०६, ९:३६ AM
Contributors म्हणाले...: It's all about Ford turning Corker's commericals into something that will gin up TN's black vote. We're 12 days out and that's what Dems do.

The TV ad was funny. I didn't even think about the black/white thing. It's liberals who are constantly worked up over race and seeing those divisions. I didn't even give it a thought. Stupid controversy -- but it gins up the black vote.; २६/१०/०६, ९:३९ AM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: "jungle drums"?

Do people even say that anymore?

But boy, now that you mention it, Paul Simon is a racist. Music from Africa! Black people in his videos!
And Vangelis? Racist drums in Chariots of Fire!
ABC news theme? Racist.
Star Wars? Racist.
Little Drummer Boy? Racist.; २६/१०/०६, ९:५० AM
goesh म्हणाले...: Many people are going to have trouble hearing those 'throbbing tom toms' to begin with and even more are going to think the Dems are getting hysterical again and trying to stir up the race card. Most people aren't racist. Many will grow even more tired of having racism thrown in their faces yet again. Most will hear the message that Corker is a Tenn. home-boy, nothing more, which I think is what the message was intended for to start with.; २६/१०/०६, १०:०४ AM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: The place that ad is trying to scare you about is not Africa, it's Washington.; २६/१०/०६, १०:०७ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Unless he has completely lost his mind (an unlikely possibility), I sincerely doubt that Harold Ford, Jr. will be associating himself with this particular objection. My guess is that he'd like those folks to shut up and not lose him any more votes.; २६/१०/०६, १०:०८ AM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: Re: "..not Africa, it's Washington"

Rather, the racism refers to Africans in Washington.; २६/१०/०६, १०:३५ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: too many jims -

That's too bad. Talking about it sounds to me like he already knows he can't win. BWDIK?; २६/१०/०६, १०:३६ AM
Brian Doyle म्हणाले...: Excellent find, Paul!; २६/१०/०६, १०:४८ AM
goesh म्हणाले...: Henry, I never even spoke to a minority member until I was 19 yrs. old and in the military. I remembering seeing a few Indians but no Asians as a kid and only one time seeing some Blacks on the street near an agricultural college. They were wearing African attire, exchange students. I would be inclined to think of those kettle drums as Native American war drums even though I served in the Peace Corps in Africa and have heard real African drumming on a number of occasions. The Liberal hysteria has only hurt Ford though probably not seriously. I've been around for a long time, been all over and been with all kinds of very divers people and most people are not racists.; २६/१०/०६, ११:२८ AM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: If you have to reassure TN voters that your man will never "take away your BIble or your gun," you have a huge image problem.

That's spin. The only problem Ford really has is the D behind his name, but only if you don't know his record. Corker ads bringing up all these non-issues are meant to muddy Ford's record. Because Corker can't say he's more conservative. Because Corker isn't more conservative. He's less so. This is why the race is close: you have a liberal Republican running against a conservative Democrat.; २६/१०/०६, १२:०४ PM
The Exalted म्हणाले...: tbh, neither the tv spot nor the radio ad are in the least bit racist-seeming to me; २६/१०/०६, १२:०८ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Here's the proper link to the dirty ad:

http://nytimes.feedroom.com/?fr_story=2dcbb97a9b7e20a904b74cc67a58405dc82817e6; २६/१०/०६, १२:१२ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: If you don't see the pink background and the word GAY in giant letters, with Harold Ford right in the mix of it, you're blind. And, yes, stations have refused to run this ad.; २६/१०/०६, १२:१३ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Freeze frame second 14.; २६/१०/०६, १२:१५ PM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: dklittl, I think the ads are carefully made, but the use of music with some drums in it is a very ordinary part of a radio ad.; २६/१०/०६, १२:१७ PM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: Mortimer: I didn't see that as suggesting that Ford was gay, and that was even after I read that people thought that. I forgot about it when I was watching the ad, then saw that was your problem. Sorry, I think it's just one of a bunch of issues. Using pink is a little inflammatory in that it's trying to stir up a fear of gay people, just like using red on the abortion part is trying to remind people of blood. But I think it's the issue, not an insinuation about Ford.; २६/१०/०६, १२:२२ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Then why would Ford feel the need to say this?

“You know your opponent is scared when his main opposition against you is, ‘My opponent likes girls.’ ”

-- Harold Ford; २६/१०/०६, १२:२७ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: For God's sake Mortimer, learn how to embed a link without causing the whole thread to become only marginally legible.; २६/१०/०६, १२:५१ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Mr. Belaboring An Incorrect Point: Mr. Ford has a huge, huge image problem.

Actually, in that district, the WaPo reported, Ford was months ago at 35 to Corker's 49 and is now 49 to Corker's 39. Those tactics are the tactics of holding Ford's lead over Corker in a very conservative district. The only reason they're having to use them is because of Corker's lying ads. Specifically, the one with the hunter that says, "Ford is right, I have too many guns." Which is utter nonsense.; २६/१०/०६, १२:५७ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: It's image that matters, not reality! Who cares about reality!

Ah, the real values of Corker supporters. Utter moral relativism. That may explain why Corker employs illegal immigrants.; २६/१०/०६, १:०० PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Here's the repost of my original post without the incorrect link:

No, Ann, dishonest is the new Corker ad that says Harold Ford supports Gay marriage. It has Ford against a bright pink background with the word GAY in giant letters next to him for a while before the word marriage even pops up.

And the basis for the claim that he supports gay marriage is he voted against a jurisdiction stripping measure that would divest federal courts of hearing DOMA claims. Ford could just be anti-jurisdiction-stripping, or he might think that DOMA can stand on its own two feet, or he might think that state courts hearing DOMA claims would be more lenient and it's good to have federal courts reviewing such an important law to make sure gay marriage never becomes a reality.

Corker's people twisted Ford's vote and misrepresented Ford's position on gay marriage (he's against it) just to put a picture of him against a PINK background with the word GAY next to it in a commercial.

One day they suggest he's boffing every white woman in Tennessee, the next they suggest the man is gay.

Corker may not be racist, but he sure is a despicable piece of $%^&.

Just watch the dirty commericial yourself: http://nytimes.feedroom.com/?fr_story=2dcbb97a9b7e20a904b74cc67a58405dc82817e6

11:49 AM, October 26, 2006; २६/१०/०६, १:०२ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Then why would Ford feel the need to say this?

Because rumors that Ford was gay have been floating around Washington and half the country for years, long before he began this race. I live in California and I heard them 4 or 5 years ago.

(I don't know if he is or isn't, I don't care if he is or isn't, and if I lived in Tennessee, I would vote for him despite your best efforts to annoy.); २६/१०/०६, १:०५ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Because rumors that Ford was gay have been floating around Washington and half the country for years, long before he began this race.

Only proof that Corker meant to exploit the rumors.

And whether you find me annoying or not is irrelevant. I can't even say I would vote for Ford. But I wouldn't vote for a candidate who attacks his opponent by insinuating he's gay by taking his picture, putting it against a pink background and the word GAY in giant letters.

The bottom-line is that Corker is despicable. That's what I'm reacting to. I'm not some shill for Harold Ford.; २६/१०/०६, १:०८ PM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: Re: "Did you mean to type "African Americans"?"

No.
Why would you think that?; २६/१०/०६, १:३८ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Kettle, meet pot.

I wouldn't ordinarily call this racist, but...

j/k; २६/१०/०६, २:३१ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: it is hard core God 'n' Guns region, thus Rep. Ford's problem

Yeah, except you're lying. Ford is more conservative than Corker, which is Corker's problem. If we were talking about Van Hillary or Ed Bryant, maybe, just maybe you'd have a point.; २६/१०/०६, ३:१२ PM
KCFleming म्हणाले...: Man, Mortimer really, really hates Corker, don't he?; २६/१०/०६, ४:०५ PM
Harkonnendog म्हणाले...: For younger people the idea that the bunny ad is racist is kind of ridiculous. Does anybody under 40 care AT ALL about couples of different races getting together?

And I don't get the dem strategy of crying racism, here. The ad can only be considered racist if its audience is racist. I mean if you aren't racist that ad won't affect you at all. So the dems are basically saying the republicans are using a racist ad to get racists to go to the polls.

Do they really think that is going to compel people to vote democrat? Is insulting your electorate a smart strategy?; २६/१०/०६, ४:१० PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Rep. Ford may well be more conservative than Mr. Corker. What counts in voters minds is not reality but their perception of reality.

This is why Corker is flooding the media with false ads. Because the only way he can convince people Ford is the less conservative candidate is if he lies. Expect Corker to wait until the last minute to loan himself money and bombard the airwaves. It's what he did to Ed Bryant and Van Hillary -- two real conservatives. He won the Republican primary with lies.

And I do not hate Bob Corker. I hate outright liars and dishonest, closet liberals. Bob Corker happens to be both.; २६/१०/०६, ८:०९ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Ad hominem remarks do nothing to advance your case.

You need to look up the term ad hominem. Calling someone a liar for lying is not an ad hominem fallacy. It is simply not true that Ford has an image problem with voters in TN. Corker is putting out false ads in order to create one because he can't win otherwise. If you don't want to be called a liar, tell the truth.; २६/१०/०६, ८:१९ PM
Mortimer Brezny म्हणाले...: Lesser,

I'm not a Ford supporter. I vote Republican.

But if you think the Democrats aren't taking the House, you're living in Delusion Land.

Word Verification: arfzz

The sound of late night romps at Ken Mehlman's house after he cruises the gay bar scene in metro DC.; २६/१०/०६, ८:२२ PM
Jazz Bass म्हणाले...: here's the deal: ford comes from a family machine and the rest of tennessee knows it. he's got no qualifications, as is his brother who is running as an independent against a white jewish guy. the only racists in the tn races are the fords.

corker isn't as conservative as most would like but he's got the chutzpah and the money. he edged out hillary and bryant with smart politicking.

Ford is always defensive. having to assure rural whites he's on your side is something that would be a given if he were truly a god, guns and guts candidate.

the worse they come up with against corker is he's a smart business man and a contracter that corker hired had illegals working for his company.

to say this is racist is just the gamebook the fords play from, that's all. it isn't. like ford jr, there's no there there. so if there is lying on a regular basis, it's harold.; २६/१०/०६, ९:४० PM
The Exalted म्हणाले...: ford isnt the one calling it racist, putz.; २७/१०/०६, १२:३१ AM
ShadowFox म्हणाले...: Ann, read the TPM posts more carefully. The claim is not simply that the radio ad uses drums. There is a distinct thematic shift in the spot--it's drums for Ford and the ethereal, "angelic" music for Corker. There is no mistake.

Also note the description of what happened when two radio hosts were confronted with the ad. It's not paranoia.

And no one is accusing Corker--unlike George Allen--of being a racist. The problem is with his campaign using racist or race-baiting tactics. I can't believe that you could miss that point as an impartial observer.

Given the amount of false claims in Republican negative campaign ads all over the country, including Wisconsin, it should not be surprising that a racist message is easily perceived in the campaing ad against the candidate most likely to become the first Black Southern Senator since Reconstruction.

Personally, I don't care if Corker is racist--the ads don't tell me that. I know he's a thief and that's enough for me. But his campaign ads--both from his own people and form the RNC--are stunningly misleading. No surprise here.; २७/१०/०६, ९:०३ PM