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"We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al Qaeda."
Condoleezza Rice responds to the substance of Bill Clinton's FOX News Sunday remarks. That link is to the NY Post article. The NYT report is, by contrast, very minimal, but it does include a line about what she thought of his hot-headed style, as she diplomatically steps back from the invitation to come out and call Clinton a liar: ''No, I'm just saying that, look, there was a lot of passion in that interview.''
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Clinton admitted he could have done better and wanted his mistakes made public. He SHOULD be passionate about this while keeping his pants over his socks. If you read Richard Clarke's book, it is clear Clinton's team was more invested in this issue than was Bush's. I also do not think R. Clarke is some crazed party hack you can simply ignore. It was a good book. Personally, he gained my admiration forever when he apologized to the victims for their failures.
More evidence that Condi ls lying is posted at Liberal Values:
http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=362
She also told a similar lie in an op-ed in the Washington Post in 2004
dklittl-
Why would you say that Condi botched the Israel-Hezbollah conflict? Seems like we got what we wanted out that.
And really, "clusterfuck"? That's so three-decades-ago.
dklittl, you've already been called on this, but the fact that you even bring up North Korea in a discussion where you're supposed to be defending Madeline Albright's record... well, it's obvious that you either don't know the history of Albright's disastrous dealings with NK, or you're purposely ignoring it.
Yeah, I believe everything Condi "These aluminum tubes are only suitable for centrifuges" Rice every time. Condi Rice, like the rest of the current administration is a demonstrated liar. She will say anything to make the current administration look good.
I am not quite sure if I remember how this alleged lie by Rice was exposed. Could you point at the article that definitively showed that the tubes were not for centrafuges?
Seven and Fen:
You will never get anywhere attempting to reason with Freder when he goes off on his "Bush lied!!!" hobbyhorse. If you parse his comments, it's clear that Fred gives words a special personal meaning that deflects argument. To Fred, "lie" means any statement that he disagrees with or does not understand.
Federson, Albright basically paid North Korea to develop nukes. Wake up, lol.
"When I say that the administration lied about in the leadup to the war, I think they do believe they honestly believed that Saddam did have WMD."
Thanks, Freder, for providing such a perfect illustration of my point.
Fenrisulven - great citations. Interestingly, I'd bet money you won't find those quotes on left-wing sites.
The narrow-minded, one-issue (blame-Bush-hate-Bush) Democrats also have at telling case of chronic selective amnesia when it comes to their own positions just a few short years ago.
All I know is that there is a big hole in the ground about 2000 feet from where I live.
And Bush was President when that hole was created. And he did nothing to prevent it. Despite the fact that he received a report one month earlier that said "Bin Laden determined to attack U.S.". He did nada, zippo, nothing, in that intervening month.
And Bush doesn't give a damn about that big hole in the ground, except that he sees it as a way a huge opportunity to get votes. Votes from people who don't live anywhere near that hole in the ground and who are in zero danger of being hurt by terrorists.
Just for the record, here's that non-existent plan that lying bitch Condi never heard of before.
Fuck you, brownshirts.
Interesting factoid about that Clarke memo Mr. Brownshirts-on-the-Brain quoted -- it encourages the use of extraordinary rendition of terror suspects and notes that the technique has already been repeatedly used under Clinton.
Food for thought, for those in the "how dare Bush discard our constitutional liberties" camp. :)
Freder asks,
"Condi said it didn't exist and she never lies?"
By "lie" do you mean the dictionary definition or the special Freder definition, in which "lie" means "a political statement that F. dislikes?"
You mean the memo you all were claiming didn't exist because Condi said it didn't exist and she never lies?
I said that? News to me.
For a man obsessed with "lies", Freder, you certainly have a casual attitude towards the truth. :)
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