"There was no indication as of yet that this was a nefarious attack against us. It’s just a telecommunication outage as of right now."
ADDED: From that NYT live coverage: "Friday’s outage comes just a few days after the F.A.A. announced it would begin rolling out an artificial intelligence tool nationwide to help controllers avoid delays.... SMART, short for Strategic Management of Airspace, Routes and Trajectories was made by an A.I. company called ASI, or Air Space Intelligence, which won an $875 million contract for the program...."
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Maybe someone trying to hack the flight control system like they hacked the super market freezers in France?
They spoiled toons of food.
Maybe Iran is behind it.
The Conga Lines at the airports are already epic.
Too bad I'm not out there, picking off the stranded. I live far from the airport.
Probably just a coincidence but a large cargo ship (bulk carrier?) just T-Boned a river cruise ship in New Orleans. The ship rolled on its side and sank in a few minutes. Fortunately, the river is not that deep and about half the ship is still above water.
This seems to be in the air traffic control comms system. That system is so old that it is still running on floppy disks. It could have been hacked or it could have simply wheezed its last breath. Sure glad I'm not traveling this week.
John Henry
Are there still airplanes without radios? I had one when I quit with 1200 hours to take up long distance bicycle riding instead. Map on knee and mag compass, no dependency on any external thing except see and avoid.
Friday the 13th in Spades this year.
Similar to the one in 2023, no doubt. Of course, Trump is to blame for this one. Because he always is.
The lingering effect is crews timing out with no way to replace them.
Nothing a Triumphal Arch can’t fix.
I wonder if the grounded flights has to do with the Microsoft 365 crisis in some way, if Air Traffic Control has lost some kind of communication capability that relies on it, for non-flight related, but business-critical communications.
Apparently 12 people are missing in the river boat allision incident, which happened while it was docked at the Port Authority's pier.
Weather radar websites are down too.
"The National Weather Service reported nationwide internet and communication issues on Friday, Nov. 13, warning that some weather products may be unavailable or outdated on its websites."
Just a coincidence, this coming a day after the Microsoft meltdown and a week or so after the freezers in Europe were hacked. Nothing to see here, all a coincidence.
"Apparently 12 people are missing in the river boat allision incident, which happened while it was docked at the Port Authority's pier. "
The news is saying everyone has been accounted for.
The telecommunications outage is due - more likely than not - to the ancient equipment that the FAA has. It is all last century.
The sainted Sec. Buttegig never upgraded it. He wasted time and money on racist highways and EV charging stations.
Duffy, on the other hand, has begun to upgrade the equipment.
Pete Buttegig never pays a political price for his demonstrated and repeated incompetence.
The system was switched to a new AI system 3 days ago.
Hopefully it won’t mess up the weekend football games.
John Henry is absolutely right about the FAA's floppy disks.
Pete knew this and did nothing.
Meanwhile the transportation secretary is a former reality show contestant and Fox host.
Fox News headline four days ago: "EXCLUSIVE: Trump's FAA touts new AI-powered tool helping thousands of passengers avoid flight delays"
The Trump administration touted that a new FAA artificial intelligence system called SMART (Strategic Management of Airspace, Routes and Trajectories) is cutting flight times by more than 10 minutes on average.
Around the same time (November 7), President Trump also spoke about aviation speed during a visit to a space center, noting that the industry needs to push for faster travel and technology updates rather than accepting slower progress compared to decades past. Very coincidental FASTER FASTER .....HURRIEDER AND HURRIEDER SAID ALICE!
Dave - the current resident of the White House deserves none of the blame? What about the president before Biden? Forgot his name.
Just checking in to see if the usual idiots are blaming Trump over something in which he has no control.
Sure enough ....
Jim - I was just responding to Dave’s comment blaming Biden.
Look Jensen, we were only kidding. OK?
Scary news for air traffic, but really sad news out of New Orleans. That is horrific.
IUD - Do F off.
Inflation is rising again, half the Cabinet is reportedly living on military bases out of fear, sensitive U.S. chips are finding their way to Chinese interests while the Trump administration looks the other way, we’re stuck in an endless war with Iran, there’s a mass exodus at the DOJ, and flights are grounded.
At least we’re getting a ballroom bigger than the rest of the compound. 🤣
I still read "outage" as "outrage" and wonder what horrors Microsoft has committed now.
>Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...
Meanwhile the transportation secretary is a former reality show contestant and Fox host.<
Yeah, that is simply ridiculous, isn't it. Pathetic that Trump couldn't get someone qualified for the position, you know, like the mayor of Bumfuck, Indiana, for instance.
Meanwhile..the other Fox & Friends Weekend host is now running the Pentagon.
Also from the NYT:
"A spokeswoman for the National Weather Service said a screenshot circulating online that claimed its weather radar was down was “outdated.”
The Weather Service “has not experienced a disruption to its radar systems today,” said Kim Doster, the spokeswoman."
Whats all this i hear about an Telecommunications Outrage?
Why is everyone so upset? I like Telecommunications.
Oh wait... what? Oh well that's different. Never mind.
Is IEED North Korean or Soviet?
“Map on knee and mag compass, no dependency on any external thing except see and avoid.”
..:that’s great rhhardin- the 20 something airline pilot on the family just said he can land his passengers like that, too…
>Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...
Meanwhile..the other Fox & Friends Weekend host is now running the Pentagon.<
Really; that guy is just absurd, isn't he. I would have preferred another ceremonial Negro for the job, myself. Well, you know, one that wouldn't go AWOL on us, anyway...
And this:
"Friday’s outage comes just a few days after the F.A.A. announced it would begin rolling out an artificial intelligence tool nationwide to help controllers avoid delays. That tool was first unveiled for the Washington, D.C., area airports two months ago, on a day when problems with air traffic communications failures also grounded hundreds of flights, after a circuit failed and it was discovered that contractors had accidentally ripped through a fiber line that was supposed to serve as its backup.
The new A.I. system had previously been implemented in a limited test program in late September. SMART, short for Strategic Management of Airspace, Routes and Trajectories, was made by an A.I. company called ASI, or Air Space Intelligence, which won an $875 million contract for the program.
In a social media post on Friday, the company said, “The current ground stop is not based on or a result of the SMART system, any product of ASI or our integration with FAA and ATC.”
They would say that, of course, but the conclusion-jumping seems unwarranted. Maybe one of you tech wizards--Dinky? IEE? Althouse?--can explain to this layman how it is you believe that there is a connection between the two. Or between the implementation of SMART and the last Nationwide Ground Stop in 2023.
Here we go. Every self-assumed expert is going to tell us what's up. In the coming days when we know what really happened there will be no appologies from a single one who was wrong.
I'll bet someone didn't turn off their cellphone before taking off. It was bound to happen sooner or later you know. We had a perfect record for decades with everyone turning off every one of their electronic devices on each takeoff. But then POOF, the perfect record was shattered and this happens.
You can’t set up a comprehensive test harness for AI
""Apparently 12 people are missing in the river boat allision incident"
According to anonymous sources, Trump suggested that riverboats should carry less life preservers.
“𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘱 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘣𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘭𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘔𝘈𝘙𝘛 𝘴𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘮, 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘈𝘚𝘐 𝘰𝘳 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘍𝘈𝘈 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘈𝘛𝘊.”
I don’t think anyone has established a connection, and I’m not claiming one exists. But the timing warrants questions. The FAA expanded SMART nationwide to all 22 ATC centers just days before the outage. It’s a cloud-based system integrating approximately 200 data streams into air traffic management.
ASI’s denial is certainly relevant, but it isn’t a substitute for an independent technical investigation. And the fact that the 2023 outage involved a different system doesn’t answer questions about this one.
The question isn’t whether we can prove a connection from the outside. It’s whether investigators have thoroughly examined the possibility and can explain what went wrong.
Unconfirmed reports from sources inside the FAA said that Trump was seen unplugging an Air Traffic server to plug in his hair dryer. Democrats promise to investigate fully.
I'll leave Indefinitely Extended to play mumblety peg. The interesting number I heard was that there were 3,100 commercial planes in the air when this grounding order was issued. That's just an average day in US commercial aviation. The real question is how do they all get down safely. In aviation, takeoffs are optional--but landings are mandatory. If you've got failed communications--that's a real problem. And in terms of spotting airplanes at airports? All of a sudden there is a demand for 3,100 new parking spaces!
""This isn’t another 9/11"
Unless we can blame it on Trump, then it's much worse, even approaching a Jan. 6th.
I asked AI to write a bland piece blaming Trump. It's pretty funny. Sounds familiar.
Air Traffic Stoppage Raises Questions About Trump Administration's Handling of Aviation
WASHINGTON — A nationwide disruption in air traffic has raised fresh questions about President Donald Trump's approach to aviation oversight, according to government officials familiar with airplanes.
The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss airplanes publicly, said the stoppage reflected broader concerns about the administration's management of things that fly.
"This is the kind of situation that raises serious questions," said one official familiar with both airplanes and airports. "When airplanes stop flying, people notice."
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on whether the president was personally familiar with the affected airplanes.
A second official, who requested anonymity to speak candidly about aviation, said the disruption was consistent with concerns that have circulated among people knowledgeable about the subject.
"Airplanes are supposed to move," the official said. "When they don't, you have to ask why."
Trump has previously expressed confidence in his administration's ability to manage transportation issues, though critics say confidence alone is unlikely to restore air traffic.
It remains unclear when normal operations will resume or whether additional airplanes could be affected.
Government officials familiar with the situation said they were continuing to monitor developments closely.
"I asked AI to write a bland piece blaming Trump."
You are clearly not the only one employing that technique.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to give up ketamine.
'...I don’t think anyone has established a connection, and I’m not claiming one exists....'
Getting some real 100% high-octane conclusion-jumping dopamine hits this afternoon, emphasis on the 'Dope'.
Many people in here have expertise in one subject or another and offer some insights from time to time, but some commenters seem to be polymaths of the highest order, being experts in every subject raised day after day, and they have led me to the conclusion that Trump is both all powerful and totally incompetent at the same time. Like a drunken god on Mount Olympus.
We are truly blessed to have them with us again today.
I actually did a 30 year stretch in telecom, and we saw something like this a couple of times, but back in the early nineties, when MCI was down, you could dial the prefix for AT&T and avoid the problem, but I do remember one time when new signalling software had been rolled out, and since the switches talked to other carriers, the outages cascaded, but in that case all you had to do was roll back the software and bring everything back up. I would imagine that this will be a lot more complicated, but here’s hoping it’s not.
Gerda--that's pretty good. Babylon Bee stuff. I didn't think AI had it in it.
Now podcasts that I follow who are often, but not anywhere near always right are saying that the Iran war is going hot again. Making a cyberattack a distinct possibility.
Dave Begley said...
" Duffy, on the other hand, has begun to upgrade the equipment.
Pete Buttegig never pays a political price for his demonstrated and repeated incompetence."
You really can't make this stuff up. I'm shocked the Trumpsters got as many votes as they did last Tuesday.
Peachy+2 said...
Is IEED North Korean or Soviet?
CCP.
Well, rich. At least it's not a dei hire, eh.
You just keep lowering the bar for dumbass. You've accomplished nothing in your life except you can type.
Rustygrommet- yes.
CCP - with North Korean spritz.
Mut man - tell us what Buttigeg accomplished.
I will offer my equally well-informed insider opinion on what has happened, and I think it's obvious.
Tribbles.
Duffy was a little late in responding because he was in the middle of a family road trip.
What Buttigieg accomplished?
Smashed through the glass ceiling of male breast feeding.
My own tits refuse to return to the closet.
At least Duffy has some experience with these issues. Remember his quick response when the Road Rules van ran out of gas?
"first gay"
Yet no one one in the hack D Chi Com paid press give Bessent any credit.
Mut Man - only democrats are allowed vacations, time off and time with family.
"A false attack of Islamophobia. America, punish yourself. You should be ashamed."
Islamphobia
[is-lah-muh-foh-bee-uh]
noun
A healthy survival instinct triggered by not wanting to be murdered by 7th-Century cosplayers [costume players] who hate dogs, gays, Jews, Christians, music, you and your entire civilization
Synonym: basic pattern recognition learned from 1400 years of observed behavior
Democrats want to destroy everything - and will.
Commercial flying demands ultimate safety. Dems don't want to be inconvenienced - so they spit ball and blame.
Leftists toss out the word "Phobia" and "racist" and expect total obedience to their demands.
Personally, I don't like government positions handed out based solely on having sexual proclivities at the ends of the bell curve. It seems like you're not even trying to govern well.
Peachy+2 said...
"Mut Man - only democrats are allowed vacations, time off and time with family."
It was no vacation. It was a tv show paid sponsored by companies with industry interests regulated by the Department of Transportation and who lobbied that department with 100 million dollars worth of spending.
Query : Does this mean Rubio will have to cancel his military flight to tomorrows Gators' game?
Do dems ever fly military or private jet?
Mut Man - you said about it was a "family road trip"
You leftists want harm to come to Rubio - and anyone who doesn't fall in line with your toxic corrupt crime syndicate of a party (D/CCP/$$$)
Speaking of Rubio - He is fantastic here.
Peachy+2 said...
"Do dems ever fly military or private jet?"
Paid for by the taxpayers to go watch their kid sit the bench in a football game? If you know any dems who do this, let me know so we can both hold them accountable.
Do you not care about Rubio's safety? Of course not.
Mut Man - Democrats are the KINGS of wasting tax dollars.
That's ALL Dems do. WASTE OUR MONEY.
I do not consider keeping Rubio safe - a waste.
YOU DO.
Peachy+2 said...
"Do you not care about Rubio's safety? Of course not."
What does Rubio flying to watch his kid play ball, on our dime, have to do with "Rubio's safety"?
My read from the various postings on the FAA situation is that it appears to be an issue involving communications between ATC towers, especially the references to a telecomm issue, not an issue with ATC radio communications. What connection SMART might have to those interconnections is unknown to me.
My understanding is also that it was only a ground stop. No flights were ordered to land though it appears many have diverted from their original destination airports due to congestion.
As usual the only real reporting on the US is from outside the US
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/faa-issues-us-wide-ground-stops-due-to-rolling-frequency-outage-all-flight-departures-halted-101794603336870.html
I've never heard of a 'rolling frequency outage' before. How does one of those work? If you transmit, you transmit on a frequency. How is there a rolling frequency outage? That's like saying there's a rolling color outage, affecting greens and purples hardest hit. It's nonsensical, as it stands.
Smells like software..
9/11 >>> 11/13 >>> ??/??
Guess next what's
The uniformed rank stupidity from many (most?) of the comments here do more to highlight the downward spiral of Althouse's community than her loyalty to NYT & WaPo!
And the telecommunications are restored.
I'm feeling a bit like a prophet of old. A couple days ago I was commenting on how the FAA hoped -- HOPED -- to replace all of their floppy disk-based communications. You think that's an anomaly? Check the average age of their radar systems. I did earlier this evening, and it's estimated to be 36 to 40 years old. This is not an agency that keeps up with the technology. And today that attitude caught up with the agency, and the traveling public who depend on it.
@Mutaman, did you care about Chris Wray using FBI aircraft to fly off on vacation? If not, then do you think you have a leg to stand on regarding Rubio's travel?
Basically, why do you care how Rubio travels? Were you hoping to get a clean shot?
Appropriations gave FAA 12 billion to spend on updates,,,so far they spent 1 billion. Whose the congress ,both parties in last 2 years? Congress needs to give us more $$$ ITS YOUR CONGRESS,, you got a guy whos eo only interested in ball rooms,reflecting pools,arches, and a NO SHOW for the outage as he sends a guy out who is clueless. 6 of 10 years trump has been absent and in control you got money for decorating projects ,12 billion to fix some of the outdated air equipment and your sittin gon 11 billion in a corner..WTF.... MOST INCOMPETENT GROUP OF PEOPLE EVER.
Skeptical Voter said...
"The interesting number I heard was that there were 3,100 commercial planes in the air when this grounding order was issued. That's just an average day in US commercial aviation. The real question is how do they all get down safely. In aviation, takeoffs are optional--but landings are mandatory. If you've got failed communications--that's a real problem. And in terms of spotting airplanes at airports? All of a sudden there is a demand for 3,100 new parking spaces!"
Comms weren't a problem. But you have put your finger near the problem. Unlike Europe, where off-gate parking is common (and sucks), that is nearly unknown here.
Kind of like not having air conditioning.
What had to suck was no gates, so no way to get off the planes.
Big Mike said...
"@Mutaman, did you care about Chris Wray using FBI aircraft to fly off on vacation? "
So its ok for Rubio to rip off the taxpayers because Christopher Wray did it? F Chris wray, another incompetent hired by Trump. Wray is a Republican and a member of the Federalist society.
Nevermind.
Does anyone have anything I could take for these endless and debilitating TDS attacks? It's like an OCD-type thing where I just keep doing the same thing over and over for no reason. Sometimes I can't leave the house or even my keyboard. I get this overpowering fear that something negative might happen in the world and Trump won't get the blame. It's a waking nightmare.
This is what I see when I close my eyes:
https://youtube.com/shorts/fbtvwvq4FC0
We are in a war with global terrorists, and they specifically want to get someone like Rubio with all their heart. Do you assume they are going to say: "No we can't kill him today he's at a family event." Sheese! Most people who abuse government plane travel have never been in the risk profile of Rubio, The SOS for a government currently bombing, blockading and starving the world's leading sponsors of terror. They would give anything to get him or his family. The whole administration is under this threat, and they don't cry about it or give in and pay terrorists protection money as some have done.
bagoh20 said...
"We are in a war with global terrorists, and they specifically want to get someone like Rubio with all their heart"
Public service means making some personal sacrifices. Why do Republicans think it means ripping off the taxpayers? We shouldn't have to pay millions so Rubio can watch his kid sit on the bench.
The taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for Nancy Pelosi's private flights from coast-to-coast. Nor should they have to pay for Michelle Obama's (dragging along her kids and her mom) junkets to Africa, India and all points in between.
Nor should taxpayers have to fund a bunch of shit your leftist politicians did and still do.
But you didn't say jack shit back then ... so shut your whore mouth now.
Jim at said...
"your whore mouth"
Eloquently put Robespierre.
Not this.
During World War II, Hollywood actress Hedy Lamarr and avant-garde composer George Antheil co-invented a frequency-hopping spread spectrum (FHSS) communication system to prevent enemies from jamming Allied radio-controlled torpedoes.
Jim said..
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The taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for Nancy Pelosi's private flights from coast-to-coast. Nor should they have to pay for Michelle Obama's (dragging along her kids and her mom) junkets to Africa, India and all points in between.'.
And we should not pay to haul Kash Patel and his girlfriend all over the world and to attend Olympic hockey matches. Marco Rubio should not have spent more than $1.2M in taxpayer dollars on personal trips to see his son play football for Florida.
Mutaman had been personally hoping to assassinate Marco Rubio, but now he cannot. Bru bitter tears, Mutaman. Gadfly will join you in your weeping.
Turns out the news in New Orleans only looks horrific. All passenger and crew accounted for and alive. Some were hospitalized, including a couple of rescuers, but none are in critical condition.
Skipper: “ Unlike Europe, where off-gate parking is common (and sucks), that is nearly unknown here….What had to suck was no gates, so no way to get off the planes.”
If a European country had a stoppage like this, they could quickly repurpose their sucky off-gate parking process to get people off the planes, just as they would for a scheduled landing.
I still don’t see how US airports couldn’t have scrambled some buses and air stairs, put up some cones and caution tape, and got some loud women to get passengers off planes that had no hope of taking off or getting to a gate.
I guess the limiting factor is the number of people and vehicles cleared and qualified to operate on the tarmac?
Nevertheless, at some point you’re falsely imprisoning your passengers if you don’t let them off the plane or make any kind of effort to get them off. CC, JSM
…there was a year where everywhere I travelled Newt Gingrich was with me. A flight to Palm Springs, a red eye from Seattle to Minneapolis…on the boardwalk at Disney World. I suppose its neither here nor there but the flying was interesting. Special accommodation has to be made for all the security- on the tarmac, baggage handling, in the cabin. I sat in the middle seat of the exit row with part of the security team, his bag between his feet that he grabbed for when I tried to sneak by to the aisle. My point- you start adding up the cost of all that stuff to make commercial travel possible it starts to approach one trip with a government Cessna Longitude with the post office colored livery. There’s well over a trillion in pure waste and fraud so stop fretting about a few dollars in the transport budget…
…there was a year where everywhere I travelled Newt Gingrich was with me. A flight to Palm Springs, a red eye from Seattle to Minneapolis…on the boardwalk at Disney World. I suppose its neither here nor there but the flying was interesting. Special accommodation has to be made for all the security- on the tarmac, baggage handling, in the cabin. I sat in the middle seat of the exit row with part of the security team, his bag between his feet that he grabbed for when I tried to sneak by to the aisle. My point- you start adding up the cost of all that stuff to make commercial travel possible it starts to approach one trip with a government Cessna Longitude with the post office colored livery. There’s well over a trillion in pure waste and fraud so stop fretting about a few dollars in the transport budget…
…the expression is ‘penny wise and pound foolish’…
"Probably just a coincidence..."
I heard a senior last night tell his son (from the conversation I surmised a father-son) "I don't believe in coincidences any more..."
Protected officials, of all parties, do have the illusion that they can keep up a normal life in office. I partially blame the 70s 'have it all' mentality and the Ivy 'do it all' habits they were putting into practice their whole lives before coming into office. It just follows naturally to them that they and their kids can keep doing the same stuff in office - it's just one more extracurricular, right?
They willfully ignore the extra financial cost, as well as the risks to innocent parties: someone decides to take a shot at you, they may hit a random person. Tell your kids they can have a normal college life, well they could get kidnapped or killed to get at you. No security is 100% secure for everyone involved.
Just a tiny bit more dedication to public service and these people could maybe decide "okay this is my job now - for the next 4 years or whatever, I just can't do everything else I want to do. And maybe I have to tell my kid, do you want to remember how your mom went to your kindergarten ceramic ashtray contest, or how your mom crushed your country's enemies?" CC, JSM
Trump at least funds a lot of his travel himself. He would fund all of it himself if the law allowed. CC, JSM
Well it looks like it was a patch that they had to back out. It turns out that the equipment is so old that my decades old experience is still relevant. Given that, I am hearing bullshit coming out of some spokesmen, if the traffic, I guessing signaling, suddenly overwhelmed the system, it was not from natural growth, what we are hearing is “never let a crisis go to waste” talk. Sure the equipment is old, but it’s battle tested over decades, and it is pretty lean software, which whatever they want to replace it with will certainly not be.
Based on the CNN reports that I watched, I don’t see how they ruled out AI yet, either.
This is totally a guess, but my money is on them trying to use the signaling channel, probably SS7, to carry data. I’m happy to wait for the full report, though.
This is a systemic, bipartisan failure. The U.S. has been trying to modernize air traffic control for more than 40 years. The recurring pattern is repeated investment programs, partial improvements, cost overruns and delays—while aging equipment stays in service. Government auditors have explicitly warned about the risks for decades.
Some of the underlying telecommunications infrastructure still relies on copper wiring dating to the 1960s. You wouldn't want to watch Netflix over that network, forget about running a massive flight control system. Lot of things to blame on Republicans and Trump, but this one is on everybody.
Still no root cause being offered, now isn't that interesting? I keep coming across L3 Harris Technologies. The Defense Contractor that runs the air traffic control software system. And rumors that there were recent software security patches installed, and that the outage began in Chicago and cascaded outwards, in a way similar to the Microsoft 365 outage, forced reboots eventually overwhelming the system.
The lack of reportage is interesting I think. You have to dig to even come across L3 Harris mentions.
Given what happened with Microsoft, one might wonder if updating the technology is really the right answer. The system is robust against a cable failure, or even several. That’s just a talking point.
L3 is the transport layer, BTW, and has nothing to do with the switches themselves, but it is an interesting wrinkle, and as much as I would enjoy wasting my morning chasing down details, I have a partially disrupted wedding to attend,
Good thing Buttigeg fixed & upgraded our commercial aircraft communications and flight tracking.
////// oh wait - HE DIDN'T
I've always liked the idea of running old software on new hardware. Simple code run as fast as it can. The IT industry prefers to run new software on old hardware. Complex buggy code constantly running into the limits of the machine.
The customer problem - keeping track of planes in the sky - hasn't changed except perhaps in volume for 50+ years. Seems like the old software might be fit for purpose.
Also, walking floppy disks around is otherwise known as air-gapping, which is great protection from hackers. Not perfect - see, eg, Stuxnet. But certainly better than depending on McAfee. Commander Adama saved humanity by refusing to
network the computers on Galactica. Maybe the FAA, wittingly or not, saved us from a big disaster with those floppies.
I don't know if any of the above applied in this case, but it made me think of them. CC, JSM
"No one’s hands are clean here. However, Mr. Secretary Buttigieg, you had four years in the job and infrastructure money, yet made zero progress modernizing the FAA. You left a failing system in place. THANKS!"
X
Every experienced software engineer knows the rule: never deploy new code on a Friday. It’s basic risk management. So why was major upgrade and maintenance work underway around 3 p.m. on a Friday afternoon? Why not schedule it for a low-traffic window say midnight on Saturday when far fewer planes are operating and the impact of any problem would be much smaller?
You can tell how bad this is for the White House that we’re almost 24 hours into this mess and Trump is nowhere to be found or heard.
Did mutaman think to check whether Rubio is even allowed to fly commercial before trashing him? He's not only Secretary of State but National Security Adviser, which means he's not only a high-value target for terrorists, he needs to be able to securely communicate with D.C. and any other place in the world at very short notice, with all necessary information at his fingertips, and he needs to be able to change course on a moment's notice without disrupting the lives of 100+ fellow passengers.
Interestingly, when I DuckDuckWent 'Is the secretary of state allowed to fly commercial?' a couple of hours ago, it said definitely not, and quoted a 1993 (=Clinton-era) law as forbidding it. When I repeated the search ten minutes ago, I got a completely different answer, vaguely alleging that he is allowed to, depending on circumstances. Is the AI answering these questions as susceptible to manipulation by lefty insiders as we all know Wikipedia is?
"Trump is nowhere to be found or heard."
Close your eyes. Breath deeply and whisper over and over: "I don't have to do this. I can control my mind."
^^ I mean, it took them six months to figure out how to clean a pool. But I’m sure Trump has this one handled. After all, his uncle was an MIT professor, so obviously he can figure this out without listening to experts. Nobody knows more about air traffic control than Trump. He even owned an airline. Until it went belly-up.
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