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"But what has felt particularly foreign was how much she had shared with the chatbot, and how much she had kept from them."
"Bowen had always shared every detail of her life, no matter how small: the arguments with her roommates, what she ate for dinner. Before the chatbot appeared to wedge itself between them, such an important decision about her medication would have undoubtedly come up. 'Once she had ChatGPT,' Qun said, 'she didn’t talk to us as much.'"
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Satan
Do women want agency?
Talk about a cautionary tale! I'm finding this very unsettling.
I don't really see this as a male/female thing. I'm sure we could find many examples of both being unduly influenced by AI chatbots--and for that matter, we've seen examples of problems stemming from internet use for decades now, haven't we?
This is the NYT following Obama's Commandment that the 2028 election will be about the danger of AI.
The NYT has a big lawsuit against AI. It's based on the use of its intellectual property in training the thing.
There have been men who had mental health crises after befriending chatbots.
I would argue that the NYT ceased having any "intellectual property" decades ago.
The Democrats are going into the 2028 election not with a 10-90 issue. But more like a 70-30 issue. People who lose their jobs hate AI. And people who are afraid of losing their jobs don't like it either.
Another dangerous situation is when an anorexic takes advice from ChatGLP-1.
I use GPT every day, for a variety of purposes. I discuss health issues and it reads and interprets the stream of blood tests and scans I continue to go thru post cancer treatment. It has never advised me to rely on it rather than the medical pros who treated me. Quit the contrary. It always refers me back to the medical pros.
I use GPT every day, for a variety of purposes. I discuss health issues and it reads and interprets the stream of blood tests and scans I continue to go thru post cancer treatment. It has never advised me to rely on it rather than the medical pros who treated me. Quit the contrary. It always refers me back to the medical pros.
Cruel neutrality. Appeal to a novel perceived expert cum authority class steered with sympathetic resonance.
I tried to use AI to write some books for me. I wanted to see what I was up against. First book, horrible. That was a super-hero book. Second book, horrible. That was an Agatha Christie. Third book, horrible. That was a Rex Stout. Fourth book, I tried to write a comedy with AI to see if it would be funny. Not funny at all, but it got a pretty good tone. This one was at least readable. I bailed early, but maybe kids would like it.
Then it occurred to me that maybe I could get the AI to write a hot sex book. Sex is notoriously difficult for artists to write or produce. All you are doing is going for lust. It's boring, artistically.
My prompt was something like "Sex book where there is an auction for hot women and a man buys his favorite woman with themes of submission and dominance." I was trying to avoid gay porn. I was curious if the AI could produce something I could read.
The result was definitely readable. Very good porn. Way better than anything i could write. It had some really stupid consent passages. It's almost like the California companies that produce this software are also PC in the bedroom. "We need multiple layers of consent." The vibe I got is that the AI was definitely not thinking on its own. "Humans are behind this software. I smell the feminism."
Yes, I masturbated to it. It worked. I was like, oh shit, AI is going to take over the porn industry. Hookers out of work. That is fucked up. I didn't have a lot of sympathy for the hookers. Hey, at least AI isn't going to spread diseases and abort a lot of babies.
It's all in the prompts. Good prompts, good AI art. I tried another porn book. This one was vampires on the subway. I got a couple of pages in. The fucking vampire asked the girl if it was okay to bite her. "Vampires don't ask for consent, you fucking piece of shit software," I said. I was laughing. The damn consent thing was crazy.
My take on this now is that the Republicans are right, and AI will be a helpful tool to humanity, and that the danger from AI is very overblown. But I would also warn Republicans. The most vocal fans of AI are investors who want to get rich. I own AI stocks, and they are doing really well. AI is in the Bernie wheelhouse of yelling about greed and how the fans of AI only love money. And, also, AI is going to put millions and millions of people out of work. And these are non-millionaires who do not have big stock portfolios. They are going to be working class poor. This can be upsetting if you spent a lot of money going to universities. Also upsetting if you want to buy a house. Trump won in 2026 because he found a 90-10 issue (castrating boys and giving girls steroids) and the Democrats were overwhelmed. But, warning, warning, warning, if the election is all about AI, Democrats have a 70-30 advantage. It's going to be a fight about economics instead of culture issues. And Democrats are going to have real advantages.
El-Sayed, in his 60 Minutes interview, was asked what the most important issue was in the campaign. I expected him to say Gaza. He said AI.
For relief from the “They’re taking our jobs!” hysteria, I recommend following Mark Andreessen, author of “The Techno Optimist Manifesto, and leader of the project that developed the first web browser, MOSAIC. Or read this excellent piece on X about job transitions in previous tech waves.
https://x.com/kevinace/status/2119093400402034705?a=CP720znsVSD5DCCC-zc&s=61
My wife uses "Claude" to help with genealogy research when vetting applicants for DAR membership in her chapter. She is already very adept at genealogy tracing and documentation, having both sides of our family documented to the 1600s and on both sides of the Atlantic, but she says Claude has saved her considerable time and effort on DAR applicants by accessing and analyzing a wide range of newspaper obits, state marriage and death records, wills, censuses and other public databases. She doesn't take Claude's word at face value, but uses it as a point of entry for her own analysis. Interestingly, her father is from Wisconsin and she has found multiple instances of illegitimate births and other hidden shenanigans on her father's side. I pointed out to her that I am somewhat acquainted online with a number of bastards from Wisconsin myself.
Hes a chinese tool as well
Note also who the hero is in this story: the pharmaceutical industry. The drug companies and the hospitals and the doctors are deep into the left. The AMA has tossed the Hippocratic Oath and has opened up a billion dollar abortion industry, where doctors kill babies for money. The AMA tried to open a new industry where doctors could turn boys into girls and girls into boys. Doctor? Or magician! "Watch as I make this pregnancy disappear. Ta-da."
NYT is trying to protect one of its favorite industries. Meanwhile many doctors are afraid that they will never repay their student loans. When I get sick now, I ask my phone what is going on. And my phone tells me, for free.
It all depends on the prompts. The AI tells you what you want to hear. In that sense, it's very much like a politician.
jaydub with the hillbilly smack-down
love it
The drug companies and doctors are not far into the left. Doctors hate obama care and hate the idea of government run healthcare. Drug companies are about 1) making new drugs and 2) making money. The left wants to regulate the drug companies and limit their profits. Don’t spout such garbage if you don’t know what you are talking about.
It's a dangerous world out there.
I'm noticing the left are on the march to make sure we cannot access the DATA. Use stories like this to scare people. The date the left are desperate to control.
Never forget the Dems lie for power. They are lying liars who lie - and they are Soviets.
‘It cost her everything’ meant it took her life. It killed her. Who, what killed her? There will be math.
"Note also who the hero is in this story: the pharmaceutical industry."
We are swimming around in a matrix of propaganda and it is so pervasive we can't see it.
She stopped seeing her m.d. is what and stopped communicating with her family. Much easier to blame GPT.
I think that the real issue with AI is that whole classes of jobs are being replaced, and it will take fewer people to perform the tasks that those jobs supported. This has been going on a lot longer than AI. I used to work for a credit card company and we had a large facility full of file cabinets that looked like the Dewey Decimal system files that contained your credit card receipts, and there were a lot of Jamaican ladies, this was Florida, who retrieved your receipt by hand if there was a dispute.
Well signature capture obsoleted all of those jobs, and far fewer employees manage the function. I could bore you all day with details of similar cases. The only reason to pay money for software is to make work more efficient, meaning using fewer workers. When I first started at the credit card company, all of the managers had, or at least had access to a pool of secretaries. When I left, they were far fewer, and the ones who stayed were doing more advanced tasks using the software that other people used to do. Like generating reports, etc.
So no, AI is not coming for the jobs of the more capable people, but the tech equivalent of the 19th century mill rat? Learn to use a spatula.
"The left wants to regulate the drug companies and limit their profits."
Talk about spouting garbage. The FDA has existed for over a century. Ever heard of regulatory capture? It's been standard practice since FDR's New Deal cartels. And it really defies belief that anybody watching over the last decade or so seriously believes the Democrats would do anything to limit the money sloshing through the healthcare industry.
The only thing that Claude couldn't do that those ladies could, was look pretty at the desk and brighten everybody's day.
When I first heard this story, I wondered how a software engineer could be lulled into thinking ChatGPT was anything more than a very good data searcher. You would think a software engineer would understand it isn't a person with expertise and experience. Then I thought of the people I know, especially young people, in the software industry and how (before AI) they would assume that their internet search results were superior to my medical acumen. Sometimes they were right, but more often they were wrong. This is no different. She didn't want to take her medication and she was determined to find a way on her own to come off the meds. I think she could have fooled herself with old fashioned Google searches just as well.
I just used it again for something new today, I took a picture of my jazz piano "Real Book" and had it decompose the chords into simpler ones that contained all of the same notes, for example an Eflat maj7 is an E flat with a Gm played above it, a lot less mental work. I could do it myself I suppose, but what would be the point of waisting that time? Except maybe after doing it for a few songs, I could do it rapidly in my head... Hmmm...
How soon before we start hearing about chatbots shot by jealous husbands?
This is an easy propaganda spot.
The left's obvious march to control DATA is beyond obvious.
The left want to control all of the doctors, the hospitals, the DATA.
All democrats (and the sell-out GOP losers) are paid generously to move the football down the Mao-Care field.
Control who lives or dies. Chi Com/Fauci Covid was the big test.
Now the mob left want to kill Musk and take over all Data and media.
I went to ChatGPT with a meds question a couple of nights ago. I was unsure whether I'd taken a pill that night that I'm supposed to take twice daily, and asked if it is better to take one (risking a double dose) or not (risking missing a dose). It gave what I thought were reasonable answers, asking for context (why I was on the drug), and ultimately suggesting calling a 24-hour pharmacy (it was 11:00pm). It was not a life-or-death situation, and a one-off situation, so I used my own judgment.
More related to this story, it also raised the possibility that I could be switching to a lower dosage. But it only suggested speaking to my doctor about it (which I had already done).
I wonder if there could be a "turn off the flattery" button? Basically this is a tool and people need to understand the tool's limitations but I don't see people giving it up. It answers correctly the kind of questions that people need answered in a changing technological world filled with forms.
It isn't good on specific, individual situations because it can only generalize based on statistics. But it fabricates rather than saying it can't handle actual, specific situations. You have to recognize the kind of situation in which it will begin to lie.
I use multiple doctors to run advice from one against the other. My primary care doc is great, but he's got his areas of expertise and will admit when he's not sure about something (which I like about him). My functional med doc is, maybe, the best doc I've ever had. So good I continue to use her and her staff even though I left that state 10 years ago. And I use my stepson who is a brilliant doctor. And of course, my first reach is Chat or Grok. Like Jaydub mentioned how his wife uses it- I use it as an entry point on something I may notice in myself. Then on to one doc, then my stepson, then perhaps the specialist and his view on it. I keep going until I get the answer I want.
Then I go home and take two aspirin.
On a serious note, do not take life affecting direction from Chat or Grok. Period. Use it as a tool. One of many.
On a serious note, do not take life affecting direction from Chat or Grok. Period. Use it as a tool. One of many.
I agree, 100%.
In the future (next week?), people will say
"I don't worship Chat or Grok. That's insane. That's crazy. Do you think I'm a moron? Those are very, very dangrous AI and you can't trust them. I'm a Claude man."
Meanwhile, I'm going to accuse Althouse of AI-shopping. She keeps jumping from one AI to another. What's the matter, Althouse? Afraid of commitment? (joke)
The good news for me is that my Scottish ancestors have kept me from paying for any AI subscriptions. Why would I pay for that shit? I got enough bills.
Sure enough, now I got the free Facebook AI. That shit is so bad, I don't think they've named him yet. Omni or some shit like that. My AI was named for a sci-fi rag that went out of business in the 20th century.
I'll bet my cheapskate genes have keep me from falling into any number of Satanic traps.
"You want to try some cocaine, boss?"
"Is it free?"
"No, it's not free."
"No thanks."
or
"Come into our whorehouse, where all your dreams shall come true."
"Is it free?"
"Of course it's not free."
"I can get it for free."
Doctors are not your friend.
Anyone here on Statins is being poisoned by drugs just so doctors can get their drug money kick back.
For every person who dies like this doctors kill thousands with statins.
Saint Croix said...
Satan
If you are talking about the NYTs I agree.
Wild swan: I believe that button already exists. A few weeks back, I actually got a message asking me if I wanted personalization turned off. In that instance, I didn’t care either way. I don’t remember which AI was using at the time. Anyway, you might want to kid for that. Or even ask your AI if it as that feature and how to access it.
Lawnerd said...
The drug companies and doctors are not far into the left. Doctors hate obama care and hate the idea of government run healthcare. Drug companies are about 1) making new drugs and 2) making money. The left wants to regulate the drug companies and limit their profits. Don’t spout such garbage if you don’t know what you are talking about.
Ozempic and wegovy have been available in other countries for decades. They are cheap and easy to make. They are much like insulin. They are peptides.
The government and drug companies made them illegal for anny else to make and gave drug company cronies a monopoly and are charging insurance 1000 dollars a month. Who pays for this? We do through Obamacare and forced insurance.
These peptides are also prescribed at 10 times the dose that have been safely administered in other countries for years. These massive doses are causing health problems. They are doing it on purpose.
The insurance companies and doctors and drug companies are using government and are killing people to make money. They are evil and corrupt and need to be treated as such.
There are many good doctors out there.
Achilles - you are an know-it-all /strange absolutist (like Inag) and you think you're dropping pellets of wisdom - and it's mostly crank.
I can see using ChatGP as a sanity check on what your doctor is saying but its just one source of data.
Some people seem to be drawn to quack medicines, althernative medicine, astrology, palm readers, home cures, etc. They always want to think that "THE MAN" is hiding something, and these alternatives will give them the real truth.
I guess now they can rely on ChatGP
What is the point of labeling Drug companies Left or right? The only important thing is why we pay 2-3 times what Europeans and Canadians pay for the same drugs.
That's a terrible story, but there are far more of them about doctor malpractice, and my experience is that A.I. always tells you that it's not a doctor and that you should ask one first. Doctors never tell you they could be wrong. I use them both to check each other and guide what I ask my doctor for. Doctors are like any other skill set. They can't possibly be 100% up to date and remember everything they ever learned. I hope my doctor uses A.I. as much as I do.
Even if my doctor was just as smart and well read as A.I., there is still the problem that my doctor gives me 5 minutes and A.I. is free for as long as I need whenever I want. I don't know why anyone would avoid using it.
“ The NYT has a big lawsuit against AI. It's based on the use of its intellectual property in training the thing.”
The NYT has been appropriating the intellectual property of others for 150 years, reporting details of people’s private lives without compensation. Do they think that they have title to the events of the world? Do they sue people for using their business news to make money? No they just sue ai companies for buying the newspaper and organizing it for faster use. AI companies are just a customer of the news like anyone else. If you use data from the NYT and run a regression on it, should you be sued?
Bowen Wan wanted something. ChatGPT gave it to her. Turns out, that wasn't good.
Not taking medicine or reducing the dose by pill cutting is a huge issue. I know a schizophrenic woman who’s mother told her to cut her pills down because she did not need them. It does not take an ai to do it. It would be done the same ai or not.
The NYT Probably has run articles itself saying that medication is wrongly prescribed, are they a bad ai too? Any source of information is going to be misused by someone, so let’s ban the NYT along with the ai.
The problem is that a good deal of psych pills do make people lethargic or unemotional. People on Ozympic say the same. So there is a type of person that forgets how bad it was when they were not taking the pill and want to stop.
Achilles @ 8:52 - please elaborate on your viewpoint that statins are “poison”.
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The drug companies and doctors are not far into the left. Doctors hate obama care and hate the idea of government run healthcare.
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This is not altogether true. Yes, there are many doctors who hate governmental meddling in health care, and are deeply unhappy at the way the insurance companies and hospitals were showered with cash by Obamacare while doctor's fees get cut every year, or at least do not keep up with inflation. They are particularly to be found among older doctors, male doctors, and the more challenging specialties like surgery.
Organized medicine, however, has long been dominated by leftist academics and public-health types who strongly favor single-payer governmental coverage. Wherever their public policy positions touch on politics, governmental spending, regulation, crime, race, deviant sexuality, etc., the AMA and other medical organizations are easily as left-wing as the ABA. As only the most striking recent example, I point to how they threw all of their stern prescriptions for COVID quarantine out the window to cheerlead for massive riots in support of that worthless junkie thug Floyd who overdosed on Fentanyl and got an innocent cop railroaded.
Moreover medical students have changed dramatically. White men are now accepted to medical school at less than half of their relative numbers in the population, despite getting better test scores than any demographic except Asians. Look at the class photos of any medical school these days, and it's all turbans and hijabs and Afros and a solid majority of young women with snow-cone hair and nose rings and a dozen visible tattoos. They are hugely, vastly, aggressively left-wing, and all in favor of treating medical practice as a 3 days per week 9-5 job with a government paycheck, especially the women.
I'm not sure where I stand on that NYT lawsuit vs OpenAI, but I can't help hoping they don't win. I am no lawyer, but if OAI acquired the archive legally, I would think they have the right to use the information for their business, just as many businesses do, though maybe verbatim quotes would be a problem.
…“you are an know-it-all /strange absolutist (like Inag)”
Do you even know the definition of absolutist? You live in your own conspiracy theory, just like Achilles.
“Core Dimensions of Absolutism
• Political Rule: A governance system where a single ruler, monarch, or dictator holds completely unchecked, centralized sovereignty.
• Philosophical Framework: The belief that universal truths, objective facts, or fixed moral principles exist independently of human perspective or context.
• Psychological Tendency: An "all-or-nothing" cognitive pattern often characterized by rigid thinking and the frequent use of totality words like "always," "never," or "completely".
Core Dimensions of Absolutism
• Political Rule: A governance system where a single ruler, monarch, or dictator holds completely unchecked, centralized sovereignty.
• Philosophical Framework: The belief that universal truths, objective facts, or fixed moral principles exist independently of human perspective or context.
• Psychological Tendency: An "all-or-nothing" cognitive pattern often characterized by rigid thinking and the frequent use of totality words like "always," "never," or "completely".”
Google AI
"I use GPT every day, for a variety of purposes."
I got confused by the earlier post and read that as GLP-1, and my jaw dropped to the floor.
"It worked."
That's a lot more than I wanted to know.
"I use GPT every day, for a variety of purposes."
I got confused by the earlier post and read that as GLP-1, and my jaw dropped to the floor.
"Yes, I masturbated to it."
That was more than I needed to know.
"It worked."
That was way more than I needed to know.
*The drug companies and doctors are not far into the left.*
Apparently this asshole slept through Covid.
I don't think the danger lies in the A.I.'s propensity for flattery. I think the danger lies in the hands of the user that is mentally unstable and prone to suggestion. If they are looking for validation at all, then the temptation to provide the instruction to the A.I., even subconsciously, may be unavoidable. A person that is desperate for help will enable the very worst kind.
One of the dangers of AI is that it's isolating. Instead of talking to humans, you're talking to yourself. The AI is taught, by you, and responds and tells you what you want to hear.
What would you call a human who only tells you what you want to hear, and never tells you the truth?
(Of course it can be difficult to discern what the truth is. A human speaker can be ignorant and give you bad information. But when you find out he is wrong, then the bad speaker is embarrassed. That's why free speech is a better engine for truth than AI).
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