…as I mentioned in the other thread Vances comment re the LA Mayor’s race and the third place candidate outperforming the first place candidate in late mail-in ballots is more proof than evidence..
@Begley: I agree with you about Vance. I’m leaning Marco. Plus my usual TDS friends haven’t turned on Rubio yet. Plus there isn’t any D coming close yet.
Paul Sperry: "The "really big news" President Trump plans to announce in Thursday's primetime address, according to an administration source who's read a draft of his speech, includes bombshell evidence China interfered in the 2020 election to help Joe Biden win, including hacking into state voter registration databases and stealing information on tens of thousands of voters ostensibly to manufacture mail-in ballots for Biden.
The evidence, which details "alarming vulnerabilities" of election infrastructure, is based on four (4) sets of declassified documents (set for release Friday) which were recently unearthed from suppressed FBI, CIA and ODNI records, according to the well-placed source. The intelligence had been buried in a "massive cover-up" of Beijing's hacking capabilities and influence operations aimed at supporting Biden.
Other vulnerabilities compromising the U.S. election system, according to a draft of the president's speech, include the existence of more than 100,000 non-citizens, including illegal immigrants, on voter rolls."
Paul Sperry: "WH getting pushback from Big 3 TV nets over carrying Thurs primetime address live bc AOC/Dems claiming Trump's just gonna rehash "baseless conspiracy theories" 2020 election rigged/stolen even tho Trump promises "really big news" flanked by both CIA/FBI chiefs bringing receipts"
" So here's what we're learning from all these declassified materials: The US Intelligence Community *juiced* intel to make it seem like Moscow interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump, but then *buried* intel indicating Beijing interfered in the election to help Biden in 2020"
Hillary, Adam Schitt and Rachel Maddow and other soviet media hacks, spread the "Russia Russia" lies/crap for years - and paid no price for their lies.
Meanwhile- Hillary pocketed Russian Oligarchy money while she was sec of state.
I'd be happy with either Vance or Rubio in 2028. But looks like Rubio has taken the lead with his understated but self-evident competence and is starting to pull away.
When you go on Rogan - you're trying to speak to the people. It's not as political - and more conversational. Real. yes- Rubio is a star. both are miles and miles above any corrupt slimy mobster democratic.
Josh Shapiro(D) gov of Pennsylvania was fire bombed by the left, for being Jewish. He is now out there dutifully saying he will end "right to work". Which is his obedient mob-push for forced Union labor (union dues flow into democratic coffers)
Bob Boyd said... Paul Sperry: "The "really big news" President Trump plans to announce in Thursday's primetime address, according to an administration source who's read a draft of his speech, includes bombshell evidence China interfered in the 2020 election to help Joe Biden win
It doesn't matter. Nobody cares how much evidence there is that the 2020 election was stolen. The number of people who haven't irrevocably made up their minds is vanishingly small.
If Trump uses it, not to argue that he won, but to argue that we need better ballot security, well, 80% of the public already agrees with him and yet the Republicans in the Senate refuse to fix the problem.
The 2028 election will be entirely about how the post-Trump world moves forward. It's a very different place than 2016.
My money today would be that both sides will put up calming candidates who won't spike emotions on the other side. Without TDS in play, Democrats will have to become coherent and likely force out the DSA faction.
So maybe Vance, Rubio, Tulsi Gabbard, Manchin comes out of retirement, or a defecting Fetterman (he he)? I'm not sure it'll matter, as the new Republicans and new Democrats will both be finding their way forward without Trump.
Can you imagine Kamala having a similar back and forth with Rogan? Ya, me neither. That’s why she never went on his show — it would have revealed her to be shallow in the same way the debate showed Biden to be senile. Vance demonstrates that he has gravitas most Democrats can only dream of.
I agree with tim maguire that people have made their minds up about the 2020 election. As a Georgia voter, my mind was made up when Fulton County sent all the vote counters home and in the morning 250K ballots magically showed up, most of them for democrat candidates. Is there smoking gun proof - no. Is there overwhelming circumstantial evidence of fraud - yes.
Mail in ballots should not be allowed for any reason. And I say this as a former military man who voted absentee for 10 years. Secret ballots combined with mail-in and ballot harvesting is a recipe for fraud. Most European countries don't allow mail in voting or severely restrict it. The Carter-Baker commission recommended severe restrictions on mail in voting. We made in 220 years or so with out mail in voting. The only reason for it's recent expansion is democrat party fraud.
2020 - The charts and graphs showing Biden's over-night totals hockey sticking straight up - were mathematically impossible. The left covering up the count. Lying about why they had to shut down counting, and then sneaking back in to continue counting. Now the left have banned voter ID. Gee - there are clues.
I listened to Mike Rowe’s podcast interview of JD Vance. I found it quite boring, maybe even one of Mike’s most boring guests. Mike, understand publishing because he and his mom have written best selling books, mostly discussed book writing. When the topic touched on Mike’s biggest topic of skilled trade work, I can’t recall what JD had to say about it and certainly know it wasn’t as useful as Josh from Montana Knife Company had to say on the subject as a business owner or even Shawn Ryan, who just had Rowe on his podcast (right after Candace Owen?).
Boomers gonna boomer. There's no way I trust Rubio to tackle domestic issues the way JD will. Foreign policy is not as important as immigration and the economy and Rubio will squish out once the fire turns to him. It doesn't right now because the fire (on both sides) is all on Vance.
Birches writes: "Foreign policy is not as important as immigration and the economy and Rubio will squish out once the fire turns to him.''
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ChrisC writes: "Is there overwhelming circumstantial evidence of fraud - yes."
No, that's a thoroughly debunked conspiracy theory. The Fulton County 'suitcases of ballots' video from State Farm Arena shows normal ballot containers that were stored under tables in full view of monitors and cameras. Election workers were sent home late on election night (around 10:30 PM) after a pipe burst caused a delay—not to hide anything. Counting of already-processed absentee ballots resumed publicly the next morning.There were no '250K magical ballots.' These were legitimate ballots counted as part of the normal process. Georgia conducted a full hand recount of nearly 5 million ballots, multiple risk-limiting audits, and machine recounts—all confirming Biden's win by ~12,000 votes. Republican officials, federal judges (including Trump appointees), and Trump's own AG Bill Barr found no evidence of widespread fraud that changed the outcome.
Circumstantial claims like this have been examined and rejected dozens of times in court and audits. The results were accurate.
American soldiers to receive gender-affirming care https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2026/07/16/hegseth-touts-high-testosterone-military-doctors-question-his-claims/
It's almost surprising that the article sourced opposition to the plan to "doctors" as opposed to the usual "critics."
“thoroughly debunked” Nothing can be debunked without voter ID. 2 signs of bad faith from supporters of the Democrat Party. 1. Not acknowledging that Trump shutting down the border was a good thing. 2. Not supporting voter ID. Everything else is distraction motivated by stupidity and/or malfeasance.
It's going to be Vance/Rubio. They won't run against one another in a primary. Vance is the VP, inherits a potential $2bn war chest that he doesn't have to use in a contested primary. There will be others that will run, probably an anti-Trump Republican and other fringe candidates, but if Rubio holds off, Vance will walk to the nom.
includes bombshell evidence China interfered in the 2020 election to help Joe Biden win
Is this just a twist on Putin cheated to help Trump win in 2016? Didn't we call Hilary and her fans a buncha retards back then? Yup. We absolutely did! We mocked them mercilessly and rightfully so. MAGA is just as retarded as Hilary.
I just read his comments on the constraints of colonizing Mars. He has a good point about being in zero G for the travel from the moon to Mars and that we definitely have not solved that problem yet.
Regarding "thoroughly debunked" - at 10pm Trump and David Perdue led the tallies by about 100K votes (about 3%). Analyst on CNN, "I am ready to call it, it's statistically impossible, with the votes remaining for Biden and Ossoff to close the gap". And yet... So, debunked by whom.
“It doesn't matter. Nobody cares how much evidence there is that the 2020 election was stolen.“ It does matter. 1. The left cannot be allowed for their bogus narrative win because Republicans want ti stop fighting. Fight. Fight. Fught. Dammit. 2. Trump is setting the stage for 2024 rules.
JD did very well. Looked like he was talking about unimportant issues. His mission was to solidify the bro vote and I think he went a long way in doing that.
Marco Rubio is not a Boomer. He was born in 1971, and he is Gen X. Vance, born in 1984, is a Millenniel (Gen Y). Baby Boomers were born from 1946 to 1964.
I've watched Rogan go from painfully naïve liberal Democrat to a skeptical open-eyed red-piller like every other intelligent honest person immune to TDS.
I'd take DeSantis over Vance (too soft) or Rubio (too hawkish). DeSantis has a lot of executive experience, but he seems more or less to have vanished from the scene.
The Rogan podcast can be found on Spotify, on Youtube and the Apple podcast app. I usually change the speed to 2.0 at a minute minimum. Also there’s a transcript on the app.
You guys need to do a deep dive into lil' Marco's criminal behavior in the Florida Legislature, his deep indebtedness to open-borders Al Cardenas and the Koch foundations, his slick lying about these, Gang of 8, lies and broken promises, and a no-show job just like Michelle Obama's, except paid by the taxpayers of Florida. Other Cuban refugees in Florida are not so fond of him. Do some bloody real work, or you're not worthy to vote. Jesus. You're falling ignorantly for a pretty face. It's embarassing.
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…as I mentioned in the other thread Vances comment re the LA Mayor’s race and the third place candidate outperforming the first place candidate in late mail-in ballots is more proof than evidence..
I might end up voting for Marco if JD keeps up with likes. Like, like, like. And he went to Yale? Like, you know?
And who cares about UFC? Gag!
@Begley: I agree with you about Vance. I’m leaning Marco. Plus my usual TDS friends haven’t turned on Rubio yet. Plus there isn’t any D coming close yet.
Paul Sperry: "The "really big news" President Trump plans to announce in Thursday's primetime address, according to an administration source who's read a draft of his speech, includes bombshell evidence China interfered in the 2020 election to help Joe Biden win, including hacking into state voter registration databases and stealing information on tens of thousands of voters ostensibly to manufacture mail-in ballots for Biden.
The evidence, which details "alarming vulnerabilities" of election infrastructure, is based on four (4) sets of declassified documents (set for release Friday) which were recently unearthed from suppressed FBI, CIA and ODNI records, according to the well-placed source. The intelligence had been buried in a "massive cover-up" of Beijing's hacking capabilities and influence operations aimed at supporting Biden.
Other vulnerabilities compromising the U.S. election system, according to a draft of the president's speech, include the existence of more than 100,000 non-citizens, including illegal immigrants, on voter rolls."
https://x.com/paulsperry_
Lol @ handling themselves.
The old gals love em a good frot session...
Nothing on Ps promise of free t for the troops? Lolol
'Murica 2026, by god!
Paul Sperry: "WH getting pushback from Big 3 TV nets over carrying Thurs primetime address live bc AOC/Dems claiming Trump's just gonna rehash "baseless conspiracy theories" 2020 election rigged/stolen even tho Trump promises "really big news" flanked by both CIA/FBI chiefs bringing receipts"
" So here's what we're learning from all these declassified materials: The US Intelligence Community *juiced* intel to make it seem like Moscow interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump, but then *buried* intel indicating Beijing interfered in the election to help Biden in 2020"
Leftists: *waaaa - you don't have any evidence.*
Hillary, Adam Schitt and Rachel Maddow and other soviet media hacks, spread the "Russia Russia" lies/crap for years - and paid no price for their lies.
Meanwhile- Hillary pocketed Russian Oligarchy money while she was sec of state.
I'd be happy with either Vance or Rubio in 2028. But looks like Rubio has taken the lead with his understated but self-evident competence and is starting to pull away.
When you go on Rogan - you're trying to speak to the people.
It's not as political - and more conversational. Real.
yes- Rubio is a star. both are miles and miles above any corrupt slimy mobster democratic.
Josh Shapiro(D) gov of Pennsylvania was fire bombed by the left, for being Jewish.
He is now out there dutifully saying he will end "right to work".
Which is his obedient mob-push for forced Union labor (union dues flow into democratic coffers)
Walz or JD Vance?
Walz or Rubio?
I mean - just typing Walz makes me want to vomit. He is a mobster to the core.
Bob Boyd said...
Paul Sperry: "The "really big news" President Trump plans to announce in Thursday's primetime address, according to an administration source who's read a draft of his speech, includes bombshell evidence China interfered in the 2020 election to help Joe Biden win
It doesn't matter. Nobody cares how much evidence there is that the 2020 election was stolen. The number of people who haven't irrevocably made up their minds is vanishingly small.
If Trump uses it, not to argue that he won, but to argue that we need better ballot security, well, 80% of the public already agrees with him and yet the Republicans in the Senate refuse to fix the problem.
So what then?
I like DeSantis or Rubio. May sit this one out if Vance is nominated.
The 2028 election will be entirely about how the post-Trump world moves forward. It's a very different place than 2016.
My money today would be that both sides will put up calming candidates who won't spike emotions on the other side. Without TDS in play, Democrats will have to become coherent and likely force out the DSA faction.
So maybe Vance, Rubio, Tulsi Gabbard, Manchin comes out of retirement, or a defecting Fetterman (he he)? I'm not sure it'll matter, as the new Republicans and new Democrats will both be finding their way forward without Trump.
I was aware of many medical systems being hacked during that time. I often received notices from the hospitals and insurers.
Rubio has stated, at least three times, that, if JD Vance runs in 2028, he will not challenge him.
Can you imagine Kamala having a similar back and forth with Rogan? Ya, me neither. That’s why she never went on his show — it would have revealed her to be shallow in the same way the debate showed Biden to be senile. Vance demonstrates that he has gravitas most Democrats can only dream of.
Cappy - Just vote D - and end it.
The more Vance talks about Israel (subtle negativity) the more I lean towards Rubio. Off to you RCO.
I agree with tim maguire that people have made their minds up about the 2020 election. As a Georgia voter, my mind was made up when Fulton County sent all the vote counters home and in the morning 250K ballots magically showed up, most of them for democrat candidates. Is there smoking gun proof - no. Is there overwhelming circumstantial evidence of fraud - yes.
Mail in ballots should not be allowed for any reason. And I say this as a former military man who voted absentee for 10 years. Secret ballots combined with mail-in and ballot harvesting is a recipe for fraud. Most European countries don't allow mail in voting or severely restrict it. The Carter-Baker commission recommended severe restrictions on mail in voting. We made in 220 years or so with out mail in voting. The only reason for it's recent expansion is democrat party fraud.
Just heard Marco. Yeah, he was reading a speech but he was so, so smooth; clear and articulate.
2020 - The charts and graphs showing Biden's over-night totals hockey sticking straight up - were mathematically impossible. The left covering up the count. Lying about why they had to shut down counting, and then sneaking back in to continue counting.
Now the left have banned voter ID.
Gee - there are clues.
I listened to Mike Rowe’s podcast interview of JD Vance. I found it quite boring, maybe even one of Mike’s most boring guests. Mike, understand publishing because he and his mom have written best selling books, mostly discussed book writing. When the topic touched on Mike’s biggest topic of skilled trade work, I can’t recall what JD had to say about it and certainly know it wasn’t as useful as Josh from Montana Knife Company had to say on the subject as a business owner or even Shawn Ryan, who just had Rowe on his podcast (right after Candace Owen?).
Boomers gonna boomer. There's no way I trust Rubio to tackle domestic issues the way JD will. Foreign policy is not as important as immigration and the economy and Rubio will squish out once the fire turns to him. It doesn't right now because the fire (on both sides) is all on Vance.
Birches writes: "Foreign policy is not as important as immigration and the economy and Rubio will squish out once the fire turns to him.''
🚨 GasBuddy data showing national diesel prices have just hit $5/gal again. diesel powers the trucks that move nearly everything you buy — groceries, goods, supplies. higher diesel = higher prices down the line. https://bsky.app/profile/gasbuddyguy.bsky.social/post/3mqrex5tcyk2o
ChrisC writes: "Is there overwhelming circumstantial evidence of fraud - yes."
No, that's a thoroughly debunked conspiracy theory. The Fulton County 'suitcases of ballots' video from State Farm Arena shows normal ballot containers that were stored under tables in full view of monitors and cameras. Election workers were sent home late on election night (around 10:30 PM) after a pipe burst caused a delay—not to hide anything. Counting of already-processed absentee ballots resumed publicly the next morning.There were no '250K magical ballots.' These were legitimate ballots counted as part of the normal process. Georgia conducted a full hand recount of nearly 5 million ballots, multiple risk-limiting audits, and machine recounts—all confirming Biden's win by ~12,000 votes. Republican officials, federal judges (including Trump appointees), and Trump's own AG Bill Barr found no evidence of widespread fraud that changed the outcome.
Circumstantial claims like this have been examined and rejected dozens of times in court and audits. The results were accurate.
American soldiers to receive gender-affirming care
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2026/07/16/hegseth-touts-high-testosterone-military-doctors-question-his-claims/
It's almost surprising that the article sourced opposition to the plan to "doctors" as opposed to the usual "critics."
“thoroughly debunked”
Nothing can be debunked without voter ID.
2 signs of bad faith from supporters of the Democrat Party.
1. Not acknowledging that Trump shutting down the border was a good thing.
2. Not supporting voter ID.
Everything else is distraction motivated by stupidity and/or malfeasance.
There is no limit on how many times you can be elected VP.
JD Vance - American Shogun! CC, JSM
"May sit this one out if Vance is nominated."
This is just a dumb take.
The same lying' Thoroughly debunked" leftist cult - had no problem lying about Trump after his win in 2016
Look on the karmic side. If Democrats cheated in 2020 to elect Biden then they are responsible for the miserable condition of their party in 2026.
It's going to be Vance/Rubio. They won't run against one another in a primary. Vance is the VP, inherits a potential $2bn war chest that he doesn't have to use in a contested primary. There will be others that will run, probably an anti-Trump Republican and other fringe candidates, but if Rubio holds off, Vance will walk to the nom.
IEE will just post anything.
"Yeah, he was reading a speech but he was so, so smooth; clear and articulate."
Clean and articulate? A Cuban?
includes bombshell evidence China interfered in the 2020 election to help Joe Biden win
Is this just a twist on Putin cheated to help Trump win in 2016? Didn't we call Hilary and her fans a buncha retards back then? Yup. We absolutely did! We mocked them mercilessly and rightfully so. MAGA is just as retarded as Hilary.
Ideally Ken Paxton for next President. Same M.O as Trump.
But it will probably be JD . . . and I’m fine with that.
I just read his comments on the constraints of colonizing Mars. He has a good point about being in zero G for the travel from the moon to Mars and that we definitely have not solved that problem yet.
Regarding "thoroughly debunked" - at 10pm Trump and David Perdue led the tallies by about 100K votes (about 3%). Analyst on CNN, "I am ready to call it, it's statistically impossible, with the votes remaining for Biden and Ossoff to close the gap". And yet... So, debunked by whom.
It seems you haven't gotten to the part about an influencing operation run by elements in Israel.
Over to you RC.
@ tim maguire
I share your skepticism, but let's see what he comes out with.
I mean, what's the alternative? Just give up?
“It doesn't matter. Nobody cares how much evidence there is that the 2020 election was stolen.“
It does matter.
1. The left cannot be allowed for their bogus narrative win because Republicans want ti stop fighting. Fight. Fight. Fught. Dammit.
2. Trump is setting the stage for 2024 rules.
JD did very well. Looked like he was talking about unimportant issues. His mission was to solidify the bro vote and I think he went a long way in doing that.
Ha ha. I meant possibly 2026 rules and definitely 2028 rules.
Bro vote?
Marco Rubio is not a Boomer. He was born in 1971, and he is Gen X. Vance, born in 1984, is a Millenniel (Gen Y). Baby Boomers were born from 1946 to 1964.
I'm talking about the commentariat rcommal.
The Rubio train is made up of Boomers, as seen above.
"IEE will just post anything."
Althouse might want to consider that for the masthead.
I've watched Rogan go from painfully naïve liberal Democrat to a skeptical open-eyed red-piller like every other intelligent honest person immune to TDS.
*I'm only an hour and a half into this...*
I don't know how people do it. I can't even find a podcast let alone listen to one.
I'd take DeSantis over Vance (too soft) or Rubio (too hawkish). DeSantis has a lot of executive experience, but he seems more or less to have vanished from the scene.
The Rogan podcast can be found on Spotify, on Youtube and the Apple podcast app. I usually change the speed to 2.0 at a minute minimum. Also there’s a transcript on the app.
You guys need to do a deep dive into lil' Marco's criminal behavior in the Florida Legislature, his deep indebtedness to open-borders Al Cardenas and the Koch foundations, his slick lying about these, Gang of 8, lies and broken promises, and a no-show job just like Michelle Obama's, except paid by the taxpayers of Florida. Other Cuban refugees in Florida are not so fond of him. Do some bloody real work, or you're not worthy to vote. Jesus. You're falling ignorantly for a pretty face. It's embarassing.
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