Great photos. Listening to more Tom Waits songs. Lots of great stuff. Lots of good songs. Many that are just "offbeat" and interesting. Wonder why he wasn't more popular. Probably because his voice isn't that great. And because many songs are "dark and gritty". Or sad.
Take "On the nickel". what if he had pushed a more positive note. Or added some Religion. Would've been massive. But he didn't.
In yesterday’s cafe thread I commented that Labour had lost more than 1400 seats, and counting. Except I had a typo and wrote “1500” instead of “1400.”
Except I wasn’t wrong, just premature. With all the races counted Labour’s losses come to 1496. The Tories were also Hammered, losing 563. Farage’s Reform party picked up 1451, seats snd the Liberal Democrats and the Greens divided up most of the rest of the seats that Labour and the Tories lost.
If you don't think Christian Zionism is heresy financed by the Israeli Government. I present to you: "Bishop" Robert Stearns, a "Christian" Evangelical. He's supposedly a christian minister. But he's somewhat....ugh...vague about his parents, siblings or high school education.
Anyway he runs "Eagles Wings". A "christian" organization. So if you want to pray to Jesus to help Israel and their murder of innocent people in Lebanon and the West band. Or if you want to join them for "Torah Tuesday" here's the link: https://eagleswings.org/
And the Huckster, our bought off "Christian Minister" now Ambassador to Israel, is still attacking Tucker Carlson and others for not loving Israel enough. In fact, if you read Huckabee's Twitter acount you'd be surprised he's the USA ambassador to israel and not the Israeli ambassador to the USA.
But that sweet miriam addelson $$$ does strange things. No doubt he'll be retiring to Tel Aviv. Hell, its better than Little Rock.
Trump has negotiated an agreement removing his tariffs on Scotch and Irish whisky, in return for the Brits removing tariffs on whiskey barrels from Kentucky. This should lower the prices of both whisky and whiskey.
BTW, "Bishop" Stearns isn't a Catholic or Mainstream denomination "Bishop". He's a Pentacostal "Bishop". What's a penatcostal? Its an evangeical Christian sect that believes in the bible. Basically anyone can become a "Bishop". Its a decentralized, do-it-yourself religion.
Here's the link https://eagleswings.org/. And remember to give generously. Israel and Bibi are running short on 1000 lbs. bombs and metal rods to rape prisoners. Its what Jesus would do.
We finally became completely disgusted with the failing cable / internet provider, and cut the cord, eliminating all but our high-speed, fiber internet. No competing alternative. But now the wife has Fox tuned in to the live stream, rather than her former Fox News cable channel. What I am overhearing, surprises me. The live stream has a very different conversation going, much more in line with the Progressive alternative, the legacy (D) media. I am hearing talking heads saying things I never would have overheard from Fox cable. How Democrats are the ones that are against gerrymandering opposition districts out of existence, how, once a Democrat super-majority is back in place (House, Senate, Presidency), the redistricting will be a lot more fair and even-keeled, and all this damage will be undone. I was thinking I was hearing CNN, and had to check ! Astounding. I wonder if the political news landscape is being re-sculpted for the mid-terms.
Walked into two different Home Depots these last few days. DIY Starlink kits, both regular and mini. Advertised and verified upload and download by many users indicate it would be as fast as my current fiberoptic connection for the same cost.
I've been debating doing the switch for a few months now. Any commenters here relying on Starlink?
Tom Waits wrote the score to the movie One from the Heart, Francis Ford Coppola’s flop. Coppola wanted Waits to duet with Rickie Lee Jones (Wait’s former lover). Jones refused. Crystal Gayle sang the duets with Waits. Waits gave Coppola he a bunch of songs and Coppola placed them where he saw fit. Waits received an Academy Award nomination for Best Original Score for his work. Movie flopped, score is a “cult favorite.”
Experts warn that untreated Hantavirus may now progress into “Long Hanta™”…
Symptoms include: • Changing your pronouns every 6 hours • Putting rotating non-US flags in every bio • Demanding a booster for a disease nobody has • Saying “trust the science” while ignoring actual science • Developing sudden intolerance to sunlight, steak, and mitochondria
Fortunately, Pfizer is already developing a 14-dose vaccine subscription package with free virtue signaling tote bag and digital solidarity badge included. This will allow others to know your status for their safety and yours.
I remember coming across One From the Heart by accident many years ago, channel surfing. It was about 20 minutes into the movie, and I was immediately captured by the visuals, the cinematography. I thought it was brilliantly shot, and Terri Garr's dancing was excellent. I guess it was all done on soundstage, but visually it was otherworldly. I hear it's been recut and given a favorable critical reappraisal.
@GoSpace, ours is fiber-optic cable, and they are sole provider in this area. We have 1 GBs service, which translates practically to about 850 MBs when you run an internet connection test. Starlink, at least in this area, runs at about 450 MBs. I don't know anybody that relies on Starlink so can't comment.
We've been using Starlink here in far northern Calif. for 4 years now, since early 2022—even before it was officially available in Calif., one just applies anyway, and a year later service arrived. It's extremely reliable and seldom down. We recently downgraded from the 400 Mb service to 100 Mb since we don't need the extra bandwidth, even for games—now it costs $50/mo.
Joshua Gideon | Your Business Growth Strategist @pstjoshuagideon · 1h To supporters, he’s breaking a corrupt system. To critics, he’s breaking the system itself
“We are socialists. We are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system, the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being, according to wealth and to property instead of responsibility and performance. And we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
Find me one word in that statement that a member of the modern American Democratic Party would disagree with, except they wouldn’t like the words “responsibility” and “performance.” Those aren’t in any leftist dictionary."
RCOCEAN II said: “ If you don't think Christian Zionism is heresy financed by the Israeli Government …..”
From Wiki: “ Christian Zionism is a political and religious ideology that, in a Christian context, espouses the return of the Jewish people to the Holy Land. Likewise, it holds that the founding of Israel in 1948 was in accordance with biblical prophecies transmitted through the Old Testament: that the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the Levant—the eschatological "Gathering of Israel"—is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.”
…and in the political watch what they do Miss Lindsey began running negative ads against his opponent Lynch the furniture monger. Not just negative but those really scary ones with all the black overexposed images of the opponent against weird shapes and colors. According to Miss Lindsey Lynch not only had three DUIs he’s also into booger sugar and wants to make it legal. Then at the end a tepid ‘thank you Lindsey’ they pulled from some Trump speech. All says to me Miss Lindsey is concerned. Usually he just ignores opponents…
..speaking of booger sugar, in economics news, one or those comedian podcast clips, maybe that mullet cut guy, he had strippers on the show and they illustrated one of the more interesting economic indicators I’ve ever heard- it seems the stripper patrons know to ask for cocaine using some code words, I forget what. Well, lately the patrons have NOT been coming in looking for cocaine, clearly a sign of budgets being stretched instead of wallets…
So this is interesting and relevant to where we find ourselves today. It’s a simplified look, but it has value as an insight. Malcolm Gladwell wrote Outliers in 2008, which reduced psychologist Anders Ericsson’s work on excellence to the following: ten thousand hours is the magic number of greatness. In other words, if you concentrate on one field of study for a long time, you become an expert. In 2019, David Epstein published Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World, which draws on the work of psychologist Robin Hogarth. The book sets out the proposition that in a messy world, variety of experience trumps depth of experience. In a “kind environment,” where rules are clear and patterns repeat, specialization works. But in a “wicked environment,” rules are unclear, patterns don’t repeat, and feedback is delayed or misleading. Specialization fails. Doing many different things is what builds the mental flexibility to read messy, unpredictable situations. This is why Donald Trump both thrives in this messy world we live in and why so many people are unhinged by him. He has shattered the illusion, especially among his most credentialed critics, that we live in an orderly, predictable world - which is why they can’t stop reacting to him. The academics, career journalists, lifelong policy specialists, and federal prosecutors leading the charge against him are exactly the people whose expertise was built in what they assumed was a “kind environment” of stable norms and predictable consequences. Trump’s mere existence destroys their world view.
If you think about net zero, population control, managed economies and even communism - those are efforts to forcibly simplify our world. To make our world safe for our experts to roam and play in.
Trump’s opponents see him not as an oracle but as a destroyer. His supporters see him as a clear-eyed visionary describing the world as it really is. His detractors see him as the bull in the china shop, smashing their carefully built world.
Eva, I mostly agree with you. But the Dems have broken more norms to get Trump than he ever broke in the first place.
Mostly he's a close reader of contracts: "Can I do this?" "Boss, the contract says you can't." "Yeah, but what does the contract say happens if I do?" "Well, you'll probably wind up paying $N." "But we'll make $3N, right?" "Well, yes." "Okay, let's do it."
Interpreting a contract as a price list for breaking the contract in various ways. Does that break the norm, or is it the norm? CC, JSM
I am reminded of James Kiefer's (amateur Episcopalian historian) description of the virgin martyrs. Under Roman law and custom, you didn't put a virgin to death, no matter what she did. Her birthing potential was worth more than the cost of her crimes. But then the Romans started putting Christian virgins to death. This made people question why they were breaking one of their oldest traditions - in order to preserve their traditions?
I know it is weird to analogize Trump to a virgin, but there it is. CC, JSM
I see Trump as the unavoidable outcome of decades of state propaganda, official white lies, nonsensical "hate speech" speech codes, and creeping systemic corruption. He's no saint, and as a converted Democrat he naturally operates in the same trough as all the other DC/NYC/CA swine. He's Archie Bunker sitting at a bar yelling at the news on TV saying "They've got to do something", but then truly able to do something about it.
He'll mainly be remembered for (1) ripping off the "They Live" masks of thousands of psychopathic "Deep State" people in power, and (2) forcing a stubborn world to move on from lazy post-WW2 globalism and latent Cold War thinking.
We are now back to old time Great Powers conflicts, where local economic interests dominate versus morality, ethics, and grand visions (as the grand global visions turned out to be impossible, illogical, or massively corrupt).
What follows is a gross generalization - insightful, not airtight. It may help explain the male-female divide on Trump. Women, on average, place a higher value on social stability and predictability - it’s no accident they’re the majority consumers of mysteries, where the detective restores order to chaos. Men, on average, are more willing to tolerate disruption if they believe the existing order is rotten.
It’s not a question of agreeing or disagreeing. It’s a way of looking at our present situation from a different angle, through a different lens. Nothing I wrote has to be agreed or disagreed with for it to be an interesting insight.
Me: Did you like what we ordered? Qin: No. Me: Why? Qin: Cantonese food _too_ sweet. Me: That's disappointing. I was hoping you'd enjoy it. Qin: You dim sum, you lose some.
Listening to a guy on Jesse Kelly’s show yesterday. He advised parents not to go into debt sending junior or Missy to college. If you’re going into debt, go into debt sending your children to private primary and secondary schools or better yet, home school. College is too late as the indoctrination has already has been initiated.
“Ah, but my school district is conservative.” That may be true, but they didn’t write the textbooks.
Almost forgot - went to the Trump Kennedy Center last night. They finally have merch with the new name. I bought a bunch as an investment. Whether he wins or loses at court or the ballot box, I’m hoping the first run of merch will be worth something in a few years. Look for me on Antiques Roadshow 2040! CC, JSM
Course, AR doesn’t show Nazi paraphernalia. Or even Jim Crow stuff, which has a huge market among buppies. So I probably won’t get on the air no matter who wins. Still should have a niche market. CC, JSM
Yes Eva, you are on to something. When I call it is evolutionary thinking. Especially the male female divide. Trump has definitely disrupted the status quo. You don't have to agree with him or to like him in any way, shape or form to recognize that he has forever changed politics.
Need at least two more Trump-like administrations to do a complete course correction. It certainly helps the opposition is heading over the cliff ….. without being pushed.
- Gladwell’s writing is compelling but the 10,000 hours thing became misunderstood to mean ‘if I invest 10,000 hours in doing this thing it will make me an expert’ when the accurate conclusion is ‘the most talented experts have invested 10,000 hours to become talented experts’. Experts put in the time vs the time invested will make me an expert
Trump has stacked skills- that’s the important difference vs a ‘generalist’. Expertise in MBA savvy, deal oriented public relations, celebrity charisma and thick skinned determination add up to more than the sum of the parts. Frankly it isn’t that hard to make the typical high level politician look terrible at their job. Most of them have never seen the inside of an economics building, or a science lab, or got good grades for that matter. They are patient and malleable with some skills in retail politics and keeping their head down, and that’s about it…
The "10,000 hours".......thing. Assumes that in ten thousand hours you've managed to learn something. A lot of people with their ten thousand hours have only learned to endure ten thousand hours. They have retained nothing useful. It is why industry would rather employ engineers who have actually worked the machines on the floor rather than what they learned in class. 10,000 hours doesn't bring wisdom.
Yes. Trump is goal-oriented, hard-headed, and relentless. He is also a father and a grandfather who cares deeply for his progeny and the world they will live in without him someday. That is his primary and quintessential motivating purpose.
"Christian Zionism" - LOL. What crap. A BS word created by assholes.
btw - RC Cola - many countries in the ME were created and carved out in much the same way as Israel. With promises during war-time/ alliances. also BTW - your hatred of Israel and anyone who dares to support Israel reveals that you support Islamic Theocratic Supremacy.
Iran's corrupt Theocratic un-elected "leaders" killed (by hanging) - a young male soccer star recently. Why? Because they are assholes. It was some token BS show of strength. That is what you support - RC Cola. also - a reminder - 25% of Israel's population are Palestinians. Hamas - the Iranian Islamic Supremacist pawns - commit genocide against Palestinians. Lining those who do not comply and shooting them in the head. or worse. Hamas hide their installations in hospitals and schools - using human shields. ... Hamas and Iranian-Islamic Supremacism brainwash children to hate. and - you support that.
What follows is a gross generalization - insightful, not airtight. It may help explain the male-female divide on Trump. Women, on average, place a higher value on social stability and predictability - it’s no accident they’re the majority consumers of mysteries, where the detective restores order to chaos. Men, on average, are more willing to tolerate disruption if they believe the existing order is rotten.
Close to mine. Here is the competing hypothesis:
Female reproductive competition is necessarily zero sum. Women have a biologically limited maximum number of children and the only way the most elite women can reproduce is by limiting the success of other women.
Men reproductive competition at elite levels is to have more women and more food and more abundance.
Elite men will build more and produce wealth to have more kids. Elite women will repress the other women and low status men around them.
Elite female leaders will tend towards zero sum politics like socialism and abortion. Elite male leaders will tend towards systemic improvement and war to take and hoard more resources for their women.
Yes Eva, you are on to something. When I call it is evolutionary thinking. Especially the male female divide. Trump has definitely disrupted the status quo. You don't have to agree with him or to like him in any way, shape or form to recognize that he has forever changed politics.
People who have a grand positive vision of humanity support Trump. Trump dreams of going to the stars and building giant ballrooms.
People who hate humanity and hate the United States specifically hate Trump. People who push socialism and global warming want humans to go away. Except for themselves of course.
"Gospace said... Cable or fiber-optic? Or Starlink?"
How about cellular. I have T-mobile for business. Plenty fast and $50/month. I think consumer is $35. No wires, all connections are wifi. There are ethernet ports on the gateway. I use one of them to run it out to my garage.
Did Trump demand attention to him on Mother’s Day or something? Seems like a lot of gaslighting from the tribe today.
What striking about the conversation is how many here are describing Trump less as a politician and more as some kind of historical disruptor figure who alone can expose corruption, break the system, and force the country into a new phase. It’s as if his AI imaging of being Jesus or a doctor or the Pope or a white Muhammad Ali is really working.
Eva Marie’s comments are actually pretty interesting rhetorically because she borrows from Gladwell, Epstein, “kind vs wicked environments,” etc., and maps that framework onto Trump. It gives the argument an intellectual feel while also making it broad enough that almost anything can be interpreted as proof Trump is right.
Under that lens, Trump’s unpredictability becomes strategic flexibility, breaking norms becomes proof the norms were corrupt, institutional resistance becomes proof institutions deserved disruption, and criticism from experts becomes proof the experts are trapped in outdated thinking.
At that point, the tribe is making almost every criticism becomes supporting evidence.
What’s also interesting is how fast the discussion drifts from policy or measurable outcomes into something much more emotional and symbolic: “timing is Trump,” “destroyer of illusions,”“ripping off the masks”, course correction”, “forever changed politics”, “deep state”, and “globalist corruption.”
That starts sounding less like ordinary political support and more like people reassuring themselves that the chaos and grifting itself is part of some bigger necessary transformation.
And maybe the biggest thing I notice is how little actual evidence gets discussed. Most of the conversation stays at the level of broad abstractions: “experts failed”, “institutions are corrupt”, education is indoctrination”, and “globalism collapsed”.
Whether someone supports Trump or not, this feels less like a debate over governance and more like a group reinforcing a shared worldview they’ve been groomed to promote.
Whether someone supports Trump or not, this feels less like a debate over governance and more like a group reinforcing a shared worldview they’ve been groomed to promote.
I am not sure if it is possible for someone to have any less self awareness than this.
You are such a retard. Go read your post then go look in the mirror.
Achilles, I’m discussing the actual themes repeatedly expressed above:
“timing is Trump,” “destroyer of illusions,” “deep state,” “globalist corruption,” “forever changed politics,” etc.
That is not me inventing something. Those are the words and framing being used here.
My larger point was that the discussion shifted away from concrete policy outcomes and toward symbolism, identity, and worldview, where criticism of Trump itself often becomes proof that Trump is right.
You can disagree with that interpretation, but dismissing it with internet buzzwords is not evidence either.
“My larger point was that the discussion shifted away from concrete policy outcomes and toward symbolism, identity, and worldview, where criticism of Trump itself often becomes proof that Trump is right.“
A lot of the evidence has been discussed over these past months and years. It’s ok to step back from the weeds now and again to try to understand where Trump sits in the range of politicians.
Also, it’s widely accepted by most walks of life here that Trump is a thoroughly unique sort of US leader. I’m sure you recognize that, too. If he were ordinary, run-of-the-mill, TDS would not be a thing nor as widespread as it is.
I find it hilarious that some of Trump’s most ardent supporters sought, tenuously, to cast the Iranian war as part of a grand strategy to squeeze China.
Does no one understand the difference between a deal and a strategy? Strategists are not six time bankrupt casino operators.
A cynic would wonder how, if at all, the US benefits from this Iran adventure whether in the short term, medium term or long term. The best Trump can expect is a return to the status quo ante, before the most his recent hostile actions.
The real issue is not the "IRGC nuke bomb" it is, more realistically was, twofold. Trump asserting imperial power to impress his supporters and the rest of the world. Trump assisting Netanyahu to decapitate and to crush Iran, and to reduce it to the mess we see in Gaza and Lebanon. In both ambitions, Trump has failed in both respects, and it is hard for a man like Trump to accept failure on this scale.
Breezy, I absolutely agree Trump is a unique political figure. I don’t think anyone can honestly argue otherwise. He has reshaped the Republican Party, media coverage, political language, and even how supporters and opponents emotionally engage with politics.
But uniqueness alone does not automatically validate the larger mythology that often grows around him.
My point was not that people should not support Trump or recognize his political instincts. It was that the conversation above moved well beyond “effective politician” into something much more symbolic and identity-driven, where almost every event becomes part of a larger narrative- the destroyer of corruption, the revealer of hidden truths, the breaker of failed systems, the target of all institutions, etc.
That’s why I brought up the self-reinforcing aspect of it. I’m seeing a historic pattern of many movements centered around highly charismatic figures where criticism itself proves to the tribe that their leader is right.
And regarding “TDS,” I think both sides use emotionally loaded shorthand now. Some critics absolutely become obsessive or irrational about Trump. But I also think reflexively dismissing all criticism as “TDS” can become a way to avoid engaging legitimate concerns about his behavior, rhetoric, or governance. It’s straight out of the cult playbook.
I find it hilarious that some of Trump’s most ardent supporters sought, tenuously, to cast the Iranian war as part of a grand strategy to squeeze China.
Does no one understand the difference between a deal and a strategy? Strategists are not six time bankrupt casino operators.
It is hilarious that you can't understand this is exactly what Iran is all about.
China is paying full price for Oil now and they are paying with US dollars instead of junk Chinese military equipment.
It is rather sad you are too stupid to understand why that is significant.
My point was not that people should not support Trump or recognize his political instincts. It was that the conversation above moved well beyond “effective politician” into something much more symbolic and identity-driven, where almost every event becomes part of a larger narrative- the destroyer of corruption, the revealer of hidden truths, the breaker of failed systems, the target of all institutions, etc.
You aren't angry that people are being deceived.
You are angry that Trump is revealing those truths.
RJW, both sides can be referred to as a cult by your usage of it here. People reflexively pro or con Trump can be cultists. It’s kind of a meaningless way to describe our current political climate though. People support or not support based on tons of factors. When a poli tips the scales for you, either way, it’s an act in the process of deciding for whom you intend to vote. That’s a good thing.
Breezy, I think you’re confused on the meaning of a cult or perhaps, trying to normalize cultism.
It’s quite a stretch to equate the Holocaust or Jonestown to voter preference. Both of those by the way, as well as many through history, consisted of 3 main components; a very charismatic leader, isolate the cult from facts and reality, and scaring the hell out them of the of the government, political opponents, or other outsiders. MAGA has a smorgasbord of all three components. No other political party or movement comes anywhere near that.
Wut? RJW, you’re claiming MAGA is a Jonestown-like cult? That’s nuts. MAGA is a political movement rooted in common sense. Yes, he’s a charismatic leader, but he is one who is reflecting what normal American people want. Trump’s not driving us. We are driving him.
Breezy, Trump didn’t emerge out of nowhere. A large part of the country was already frustrated with institutions, media, globalization, endless wars, cultural elitism, and a political class many felt talked down to them for years.
Trump tapped into that. In many ways, the movement created the opening for Trump as much as Trump created the movement.
Where I think we differ is that once movements become heavily centered around a charismatic figure, it can get harder to separate “common sense concerns” from emotional loyalty to the leader himself.
That’s partly why I pointed to the language above. It moves beyond:
“I support his policies” or “I agree with his priorities” and into: “he alone sees reality clearly,” “he exposes hidden corruption,” “the institutions are all aligned against him,” “criticism proves he’s right,” etc.
That’s where movements can start becoming self-reinforcing belief systems rather than simply political coalitions.
And I never suggested or alluded to Trump’s charisma as the culprit. The other two main components are blaring loud and clear.
@Achilles This is your hypothesis: ‘Elite men will build more and produce wealth to have more kids. Elite women will repress the other women and low status men around them.’ When I think elite men - Donald Trump. When I think elite women - Margaret Thatcher. Those two are outliers and have more in common with each other than they do with the average female or male 9 to 5er. One way to look at them is to say they pursued power as part of a mating strategy. But there’s another way as well. If power doesn’t buy women mating advantage, then maybe their ambition isn’t a mating strategy after all. Margaret Thatcher wasn’t running Britain to edge out romantic rivals. And do men really pursue power as a mating strategy, or is it a fortuitous byproduct? What do truly driven men do? They work. What if the pursuit of women runs alongside their drive but doesn’t power it? The guys whose lives revolve around chasing women usually aren’t the ones building anything. There’s the reality we live and the stories we tell ourselves afterward. Men retroactively narrate their ambition as having been about women, because that’s the culturally acceptable story. Women retroactively regret their childlessness - when they do - because that’s also the culturally acceptable story. (Although most powerful women -Thatcher included - have families and children.) But I think when you say ‘elite women,’ you and I have two different pictures in our heads. I see Margaret Thatcher - you’re thinking about a woman in the credentialed professional class that staffs HR and enforces DEI rules. Once again - is her behavior a byproduct of a stymied biological imperative to reproduce, or a byproduct of institutional overreach in workplace norm-enforcement? She didn’t design that system (although she did optimize her position within it.) Lawyers and executives did. I will now have to indulge in my biological imperative and restate my (by now monotonous) main point: The men-vs-women fight is suspiciously useful to the people who benefit from us not noticing other things. We spend our energy being angry with each other instead of on whoever is setting the terms. Let’s face it: a working-class man and a working-class woman have far more in common (yes, even if they disagree on abortion) than either has with the billionaires currently cashing in on the idea that these two are each other’s problem.
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Great photos. Listening to more Tom Waits songs. Lots of great stuff. Lots of good songs. Many that are just "offbeat" and interesting. Wonder why he wasn't more popular. Probably because his voice isn't that great. And because many songs are "dark and gritty". Or sad.
Take "On the nickel". what if he had pushed a more positive note. Or added some Religion. Would've been massive. But he didn't.
What a great way to start your day.
In yesterday’s cafe thread I commented that Labour had lost more than 1400 seats, and counting. Except I had a typo and wrote “1500” instead of “1400.”
Except I wasn’t wrong, just premature. With all the races counted Labour’s losses come to 1496. The Tories were also
Hammered, losing 563. Farage’s Reform party picked up 1451, seats snd the Liberal Democrats and the Greens divided up most of the rest of the seats that Labour and the Tories lost.
Philip Caputo passed yesterday. CC, JSM
Loved Rumor of war. 85 is a ripe old age.
Hat tip to Sarah Hoyt and her Saturday memes:
If Trump is a Nazi and Trump won the popular vote means that most people believe the Democrats are
worse than Nazis.
If you don't think Christian Zionism is heresy financed by the Israeli Government. I present to you: "Bishop" Robert Stearns, a "Christian" Evangelical. He's supposedly a christian minister. But he's somewhat....ugh...vague about his parents, siblings or high school education.
Anyway he runs "Eagles Wings". A "christian" organization. So if you want to pray to Jesus to help Israel and their murder of innocent people in Lebanon and the West band. Or if you want to join them for "Torah Tuesday" here's the link: https://eagleswings.org/
https://x.com/Shawn_Farash/status/2052856750957568098
And the Huckster, our bought off "Christian Minister" now Ambassador to Israel, is still attacking Tucker Carlson and others for not loving Israel enough. In fact, if you read Huckabee's Twitter acount you'd be surprised he's the USA ambassador to israel and not the Israeli ambassador to the USA.
But that sweet miriam addelson $$$ does strange things. No doubt he'll be retiring to Tel Aviv. Hell, its better than Little Rock.
Caputo was excellent. Besides "Rumor" I really enjoyed "Horn of Africa" and "The Longest Road."
Trump has negotiated an agreement removing his tariffs on Scotch and Irish whisky, in return for the Brits removing tariffs on whiskey barrels from Kentucky. This should lower the prices of both whisky and whiskey.
Hallelujah!
BTW, "Bishop" Stearns isn't a Catholic or Mainstream denomination "Bishop". He's a Pentacostal "Bishop". What's a penatcostal? Its an evangeical Christian sect that believes in the bible. Basically anyone can become a "Bishop". Its a decentralized, do-it-yourself religion.
Here's the link https://eagleswings.org/. And remember to give generously. Israel and Bibi are running short on 1000 lbs. bombs and metal rods to rape prisoners. Its what Jesus would do.
Rcocean, saw Tom Waits once. He was QUITE drunk.
Some brilliant recorded work, but seeing him live was a bit pathetic and soured my impression of him.
Did enjoy covering his songs in an old band. Jockey Full of Bourbon's solo was a blast working out as it's short and effective.
Mark, great comment. Read he had a drinking problem.
Caputo, Indian Country
We finally became completely disgusted with the failing cable / internet provider, and cut the cord, eliminating all but our high-speed, fiber internet. No competing alternative. But now the wife has Fox tuned in to the live stream, rather than her former Fox News cable channel. What I am overhearing, surprises me. The live stream has a very different conversation going, much more in line with the Progressive alternative, the legacy (D) media. I am hearing talking heads saying things I never would have overheard from Fox cable. How Democrats are the ones that are against gerrymandering opposition districts out of existence, how, once a Democrat super-majority is back in place (House, Senate, Presidency), the redistricting will be a lot more fair and even-keeled, and all this damage will be undone. I was thinking I was hearing CNN, and had to check ! Astounding. I wonder if the political news landscape is being re-sculpted for the mid-terms.
Cable or fiber-optic? Or Starlink?
Walked into two different Home Depots these last few days. DIY Starlink kits, both regular and mini. Advertised and verified upload and download by many users indicate it would be as fast as my current fiberoptic connection for the same cost.
I've been debating doing the switch for a few months now. Any commenters here relying on Starlink?
Tom Waits wrote the score to the movie One from the Heart, Francis Ford Coppola’s flop. Coppola wanted Waits to duet with Rickie Lee Jones (Wait’s former lover). Jones refused. Crystal Gayle sang the duets with Waits.
Waits gave Coppola he a bunch of songs and Coppola placed them where he saw fit. Waits received an Academy Award nomination for Best Original Score for his work. Movie flopped, score is a “cult favorite.”
Outstanding pics, as usual!!!
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Experts warn that untreated Hantavirus may now progress into “Long Hanta™”…
Symptoms include:
• Changing your pronouns every 6 hours
• Putting rotating non-US flags in every bio
• Demanding a booster for a disease nobody has
• Saying “trust the science” while ignoring actual science
• Developing sudden intolerance to sunlight, steak, and mitochondria
Fortunately, Pfizer is already developing a 14-dose vaccine subscription package with free virtue signaling tote bag and digital solidarity badge included. This will allow others to know your status for their safety and yours.
I remember coming across One From the Heart by accident many years ago, channel surfing. It was about 20 minutes into the movie, and I was immediately captured by the visuals, the cinematography. I thought it was brilliantly shot, and Terri Garr's dancing was excellent. I guess it was all done on soundstage, but visually it was otherworldly. I hear it's been recut and given a favorable critical reappraisal.
@GoSpace, ours is fiber-optic cable, and they are sole provider in this area. We have 1 GBs service, which translates practically to about 850 MBs when you run an internet connection test. Starlink, at least in this area, runs at about 450 MBs. I don't know anybody that relies on Starlink so can't comment.
We've been using Starlink here in far northern Calif. for 4 years now, since early 2022—even before it was officially available in Calif., one just applies anyway, and a year later service arrived. It's extremely reliable and seldom down. We recently downgraded from the 400 Mb service to 100 Mb since we don't need the extra bandwidth, even for games—now it costs $50/mo.
"Basically anyone can become a "Bishop". Its a decentralized, do-it-yourself religion."
Well. It's like being a "Reverend".
@Aggie, you can ask those of us who live in Virginia about Democrat wtttides towards Gerrymandering.
Second date.
Drunk guy asks her, “How long you two been married?”
Her, “Twenty years.”
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No modern politician triggers stronger reactions from both sides than Trump 😭
https://x.com/pstjoshuagideon/status/2053186400418238535?s=20
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To supporters, he’s breaking a corrupt system. To critics, he’s breaking the system itself
https://x.com/pstjoshuagideon/status/2053186328410366293?s=20
"Here is Hitler’s full quote:
“We are socialists. We are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system, the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being, according to wealth and to property instead of responsibility and performance. And we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
Find me one word in that statement that a member of the modern American Democratic Party would disagree with, except they wouldn’t like the words “responsibility” and “performance.” Those aren’t in any leftist dictionary."
https://townhall.com/columnists/marklewis/2026/05/10/we-are-socialists-n2675792
RCOCEAN II said: “ If you don't think Christian Zionism is heresy financed by the Israeli Government …..”
From Wiki: “ Christian Zionism is a political and religious ideology that, in a Christian context, espouses the return of the Jewish people to the Holy Land. Likewise, it holds that the founding of Israel in 1948 was in accordance with biblical prophecies transmitted through the Old Testament: that the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the Levant—the eschatological "Gathering of Israel"—is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.”
That’s me! Where’s my money?
Comment on the Obama library: “I’m going to toss Kevlar vests to the kids and head to Chicago.”
Happy Mother’s Day to all the Moms here. May your day be joyful.
This should lower the prices of both whisky and whiskey
Wisky distillers hardest hit…
…and in the political watch what they do Miss Lindsey began running negative ads against his opponent Lynch the furniture monger. Not just negative but those really scary ones with all the black overexposed images of the opponent against weird shapes and colors. According to Miss Lindsey Lynch not only had three DUIs he’s also into booger sugar and wants to make it legal. Then at the end a tepid ‘thank you Lindsey’ they pulled from some Trump speech. All says to me Miss Lindsey is concerned. Usually he just ignores opponents…
…hoping the indiana incumbent massacre put fear of god into the rest of em…
..speaking of booger sugar, in economics news, one or those comedian podcast clips, maybe that mullet cut guy, he had strippers on the show and they illustrated one of the more interesting economic indicators I’ve ever heard- it seems the stripper patrons know to ask for cocaine using some
code words, I forget what. Well, lately the patrons have NOT been coming in looking for cocaine, clearly a sign of budgets being stretched instead of wallets…
…two cocaine references before 7AM EDT. Happy Mother’s Day to the moms and nonnas..
Happy Mother's Day. None of us would be here without you
So this is interesting and relevant to where we find ourselves today. It’s a simplified look, but it has value as an insight.
Malcolm Gladwell wrote Outliers in 2008, which reduced psychologist Anders Ericsson’s work on excellence to the following: ten thousand hours is the magic number of greatness. In other words, if you concentrate on one field of study for a long time, you become an expert.
In 2019, David Epstein published Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World, which draws on the work of psychologist Robin Hogarth. The book sets out the proposition that in a messy world, variety of experience trumps depth of experience.
In a “kind environment,” where rules are clear and patterns repeat, specialization works.
But in a “wicked environment,” rules are unclear, patterns don’t repeat, and feedback is delayed or misleading. Specialization fails. Doing many different things is what builds the mental flexibility to read messy, unpredictable situations.
This is why Donald Trump both thrives in this messy world we live in and why so many people are unhinged by him. He has shattered the illusion, especially among his most credentialed critics, that we live in an orderly, predictable world - which is why they can’t stop reacting to him. The academics, career journalists, lifelong policy specialists, and federal prosecutors leading the charge against him are exactly the people whose expertise was built in what they assumed was a “kind environment” of stable norms and predictable consequences. Trump’s mere existence destroys their world view.
Coming on the heels of the Indiana massacre was Virginia Supreme Court beatdown. Not a bad week for the R’s. Still an uphill battle to keep the house.
The Commie Dems better hope the war lasts until at least the midterms.
If you think about net zero, population control, managed economies and even communism - those are efforts to forcibly simplify our world. To make our world safe for our experts to roam and play in.
“The Commie Dems better hope the war lasts until at least the midterms.”
You underestimate teamTrump. Timing is everything and timing is Trump.
Trump’s opponents see him not as an oracle but as a destroyer. His supporters see him as a clear-eyed visionary describing the world as it really is. His detractors see him as the bull in the china shop, smashing their carefully built world.
Eva, I mostly agree with you. But the Dems have broken more norms to get Trump than he ever broke in the first place.
Mostly he's a close reader of contracts: "Can I do this?" "Boss, the contract says you can't." "Yeah, but what does the contract say happens if I do?" "Well, you'll probably wind up paying $N." "But we'll make $3N, right?" "Well, yes." "Okay, let's do it."
Interpreting a contract as a price list for breaking the contract in various ways. Does that break the norm, or is it the norm? CC, JSM
I am reminded of James Kiefer's (amateur Episcopalian historian) description of the virgin martyrs. Under Roman law and custom, you didn't put a virgin to death, no matter what she did. Her birthing potential was worth more than the cost of her crimes. But then the Romans started putting Christian virgins to death. This made people question why they were breaking one of their oldest traditions - in order to preserve their traditions?
I know it is weird to analogize Trump to a virgin, but there it is. CC, JSM
I see Trump as the unavoidable outcome of decades of state propaganda, official white lies, nonsensical "hate speech" speech codes, and creeping systemic corruption. He's no saint, and as a converted Democrat he naturally operates in the same trough as all the other DC/NYC/CA swine. He's Archie Bunker sitting at a bar yelling at the news on TV saying "They've got to do something", but then truly able to do something about it.
He'll mainly be remembered for (1) ripping off the "They Live" masks of thousands of psychopathic "Deep State" people in power, and (2) forcing a stubborn world to move on from lazy post-WW2 globalism and latent Cold War thinking.
We are now back to old time Great Powers conflicts, where local economic interests dominate versus morality, ethics, and grand visions (as the grand global visions turned out to be impossible, illogical, or massively corrupt).
What follows is a gross generalization - insightful, not airtight. It may help explain the male-female divide on Trump. Women, on average, place a higher value on social stability and predictability - it’s no accident they’re the majority consumers of mysteries, where the detective restores order to chaos. Men, on average, are more willing to tolerate disruption if they believe the existing order is rotten.
It’s not a question of agreeing or disagreeing. It’s a way of looking at our present situation from a different angle, through a different lens. Nothing I wrote has to be agreed or disagreed with for it to be an interesting insight.
Tales of my Chinese GF:
Me: Did you like what we ordered?
Qin: No.
Me: Why?
Qin: Cantonese food _too_ sweet.
Me: That's disappointing. I was hoping you'd enjoy it.
Qin: You dim sum, you lose some.
Listening to a guy on Jesse Kelly’s show yesterday. He advised parents not to go into debt sending junior or Missy to college. If you’re going into debt, go into debt sending your children to private primary and secondary schools or better yet, home school. College is too late as the indoctrination has already has been initiated.
“Ah, but my school district is conservative.” That may be true, but they didn’t write the textbooks.
Almost forgot - went to the Trump Kennedy Center last night. They finally have merch with the new name. I bought a bunch as an investment. Whether he wins or loses at court or the ballot box, I’m hoping the first run of merch will be worth something in a few years. Look for me on Antiques Roadshow 2040! CC, JSM
Course, AR doesn’t show Nazi paraphernalia. Or even Jim Crow stuff, which has a huge market among buppies. So I probably won’t get on the air no matter who wins. Still should have a niche market. CC, JSM
Yes Eva, you are on to something. When I call it is evolutionary thinking. Especially the male female divide. Trump has definitely disrupted the status quo. You don't have to agree with him or to like him in any way, shape or form to recognize that he has forever changed politics.
Happy Mother’s Day
Need at least two more Trump-like administrations to do a complete course correction. It certainly helps the opposition is heading over the cliff ….. without being pushed.
Well they are doing things wrong if they think dems promote social stability
Have these 'experts' proven they know anything about history economics biology, i would suggest no
- Gladwell’s writing is compelling but the 10,000 hours thing became misunderstood to mean ‘if I invest 10,000 hours in doing this thing it will make me an expert’ when the accurate conclusion is ‘the most talented experts have invested 10,000 hours to become talented experts’. Experts put in the time vs the time invested will make me an expert
“Look for me on Antiques Roadshow 2040”
Lol. I hope it’s worth a small fortune by then.
Or a large fortune - even better.
Trump has stacked skills- that’s the important difference vs a ‘generalist’. Expertise in MBA savvy, deal oriented public relations, celebrity charisma and thick skinned determination add up to more than the sum of the parts. Frankly it isn’t that hard to make the typical high level politician look terrible at their job. Most of them have never seen the inside of an economics building, or a science lab, or got good grades for that matter. They are patient and malleable with some skills in retail politics and keeping their head down, and that’s about it…
The "10,000 hours".......thing. Assumes that in ten thousand hours you've managed to learn something. A lot of people with their ten thousand hours have only learned to endure ten thousand hours. They have retained nothing useful.
It is why industry would rather employ engineers who have actually worked the machines on the floor rather than what they learned in class. 10,000 hours doesn't bring wisdom.
Yes. Trump is goal-oriented, hard-headed, and relentless. He is also a father and a grandfather who cares deeply for his progeny and the world they will live in without him someday. That is his primary and quintessential motivating purpose.
Happy Mother’s Day!
"Christian Zionism" - LOL.
What crap. A BS word created by assholes.
btw - RC Cola - many countries in the ME were created and carved out in much the same way as Israel. With promises during war-time/ alliances.
also BTW - your hatred of Israel and anyone who dares to support Israel reveals that you support Islamic Theocratic Supremacy.
Iran's corrupt Theocratic un-elected "leaders" killed (by hanging) - a young male soccer star recently. Why? Because they are assholes. It was some token BS show of strength. That is what you support - RC Cola.
also - a reminder - 25% of Israel's population are Palestinians.
Hamas - the Iranian Islamic Supremacist pawns - commit genocide against Palestinians. Lining those who do not comply and shooting them in the head. or worse. Hamas hide their installations in hospitals and schools - using human shields. ... Hamas and Iranian-Islamic Supremacism brainwash children to hate. and - you support that.
Eva Marie said...
What follows is a gross generalization - insightful, not airtight. It may help explain the male-female divide on Trump. Women, on average, place a higher value on social stability and predictability - it’s no accident they’re the majority consumers of mysteries, where the detective restores order to chaos. Men, on average, are more willing to tolerate disruption if they believe the existing order is rotten.
Close to mine. Here is the competing hypothesis:
Female reproductive competition is necessarily zero sum. Women have a biologically limited maximum number of children and the only way the most elite women can reproduce is by limiting the success of other women.
Men reproductive competition at elite levels is to have more women and more food and more abundance.
Elite men will build more and produce wealth to have more kids. Elite women will repress the other women and low status men around them.
Elite female leaders will tend towards zero sum politics like socialism and abortion. Elite male leaders will tend towards systemic improvement and war to take and hoard more resources for their women.
Howard said...
Yes Eva, you are on to something. When I call it is evolutionary thinking. Especially the male female divide. Trump has definitely disrupted the status quo. You don't have to agree with him or to like him in any way, shape or form to recognize that he has forever changed politics.
People who have a grand positive vision of humanity support Trump. Trump dreams of going to the stars and building giant ballrooms.
People who hate humanity and hate the United States specifically hate Trump. People who push socialism and global warming want humans to go away. Except for themselves of course.
"Gospace said...
Cable or fiber-optic? Or Starlink?"
How about cellular. I have T-mobile for business. Plenty fast and $50/month. I think consumer is $35. No wires, all connections are wifi. There are ethernet ports on the gateway. I use one of them to run it out to my garage.
Did Trump demand attention to him on Mother’s Day or something? Seems like a lot of gaslighting from the tribe today.
What striking about the conversation is how many here are describing Trump less as a politician and more as some kind of historical disruptor figure who alone can expose corruption, break the system, and force the country into a new phase. It’s as if his AI imaging of being Jesus or a doctor or the Pope or a white Muhammad Ali is really working.
Eva Marie’s comments are actually pretty interesting rhetorically because she borrows from Gladwell, Epstein, “kind vs wicked environments,” etc., and maps that framework onto Trump. It gives the argument an intellectual feel while also making it broad enough that almost anything can be interpreted as proof Trump is right.
Under that lens, Trump’s unpredictability becomes strategic flexibility, breaking norms becomes proof the norms were corrupt, institutional resistance becomes proof institutions deserved disruption, and criticism from experts becomes proof the experts are trapped in outdated thinking.
At that point, the tribe is making almost every criticism becomes supporting evidence.
What’s also interesting is how fast the discussion drifts from policy or measurable outcomes into something much more emotional and symbolic: “timing is Trump,”
“destroyer of illusions,”“ripping off the masks”, course correction”, “forever changed politics”, “deep state”, and “globalist corruption.”
That starts sounding less like ordinary political support and more like people reassuring themselves that the chaos and grifting itself is part of some bigger necessary transformation.
And maybe the biggest thing I notice is how little actual evidence gets discussed. Most of the conversation stays at the level of broad abstractions: “experts failed”, “institutions are corrupt”, education is indoctrination”, and “globalism collapsed”.
Whether someone supports Trump or not, this feels less like a debate over governance and more like a group reinforcing a shared worldview they’ve been groomed to promote.
Your hallucinations are not evidence jay ward
Call it hallucinations all you want narc but pointing out group behavior is actually called analysis.
RJW said...
Whether someone supports Trump or not, this feels less like a debate over governance and more like a group reinforcing a shared worldview they’ve been groomed to promote.
I am not sure if it is possible for someone to have any less self awareness than this.
You are such a retard. Go read your post then go look in the mirror.
We have to the sargasso of unknowledge about history recomics and science you spill out and deal with it
Achilles, I’m discussing the actual themes repeatedly expressed above:
“timing is Trump,”
“destroyer of illusions,”
“deep state,”
“globalist corruption,”
“forever changed politics,” etc.
That is not me inventing something. Those are the words and framing being used here.
My larger point was that the discussion shifted away from concrete policy outcomes and toward symbolism, identity, and worldview, where criticism of Trump itself often becomes proof that Trump is right.
You can disagree with that interpretation, but dismissing it with internet buzzwords is not evidence either.
“My larger point was that the discussion shifted away from concrete policy outcomes and toward symbolism, identity, and worldview, where criticism of Trump itself often becomes proof that Trump is right.“
A lot of the evidence has been discussed over these past months and years. It’s ok to step back from the weeds now and again to try to understand where Trump sits in the range of politicians.
Also, it’s widely accepted by most walks of life here that Trump is a thoroughly unique sort of US leader. I’m sure you recognize that, too. If he were ordinary, run-of-the-mill, TDS would not be a thing nor as widespread as it is.
Happy Mothers Day, all you mothers.
I find it hilarious that some of Trump’s most ardent supporters sought, tenuously, to cast the Iranian war as part of a grand strategy to squeeze China.
Does no one understand the difference between a deal and a strategy? Strategists are not six time bankrupt casino operators.
A cynic would wonder how, if at all, the US benefits from this Iran adventure whether in the short term, medium term or long term. The best Trump can expect is a return to the status quo ante, before the most his recent hostile actions.
The real issue is not the "IRGC nuke bomb" it is, more realistically was, twofold. Trump asserting imperial power to impress his supporters and the rest of the world. Trump assisting Netanyahu to decapitate and to crush Iran, and to reduce it to the mess we see in Gaza and Lebanon. In both ambitions, Trump has failed in both respects, and it is hard for a man like Trump to accept failure on this scale.
Breezy, I absolutely agree Trump is a unique political figure. I don’t think anyone can honestly argue otherwise. He has reshaped the Republican Party, media coverage, political language, and even how supporters and opponents emotionally engage with politics.
But uniqueness alone does not automatically validate the larger mythology that often grows around him.
My point was not that people should not support Trump or recognize his political instincts. It was that the conversation above moved well beyond “effective politician” into something much more symbolic and identity-driven, where almost every event becomes part of a larger narrative- the destroyer of corruption, the revealer of hidden truths, the breaker of failed systems, the target of all institutions, etc.
That’s why I brought up the self-reinforcing aspect of it. I’m seeing a historic pattern of many movements centered around highly charismatic figures where criticism itself proves to the tribe that their leader is right.
And regarding “TDS,” I think both sides use emotionally loaded shorthand now. Some critics absolutely become obsessive or irrational about Trump. But I also think reflexively dismissing all criticism as “TDS” can become a way to avoid engaging legitimate concerns about his behavior, rhetoric, or governance. It’s straight out of the cult playbook.
That was really the larger point I was making.
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...
I find it hilarious that some of Trump’s most ardent supporters sought, tenuously, to cast the Iranian war as part of a grand strategy to squeeze China.
Does no one understand the difference between a deal and a strategy? Strategists are not six time bankrupt casino operators.
It is hilarious that you can't understand this is exactly what Iran is all about.
China is paying full price for Oil now and they are paying with US dollars instead of junk Chinese military equipment.
It is rather sad you are too stupid to understand why that is significant.
RJW said...
My point was not that people should not support Trump or recognize his political instincts. It was that the conversation above moved well beyond “effective politician” into something much more symbolic and identity-driven, where almost every event becomes part of a larger narrative- the destroyer of corruption, the revealer of hidden truths, the breaker of failed systems, the target of all institutions, etc.
You aren't angry that people are being deceived.
You are angry that Trump is revealing those truths.
RJW, both sides can be referred to as a cult by your usage of it here. People reflexively pro or con Trump can be cultists. It’s kind of a meaningless way to describe our current political climate though. People support or not support based on tons of factors. When a poli tips the scales for you, either way, it’s an act in the process of deciding for whom you intend to vote.
That’s a good thing.
Pro Trump people posting here do sometimes criticize Trump. Con Trump people here who posted criticisms of Biden? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
"sargasso of unknowledge "
I am going to lock this away in my treasury of useful phrases. Well done, sir.
Breezy, I think you’re confused on the meaning of a cult or perhaps, trying to normalize cultism.
It’s quite a stretch to equate the Holocaust or Jonestown to voter preference. Both of those by the way, as well as many through history, consisted of 3 main components; a very charismatic leader, isolate the cult from facts and reality, and scaring the hell out them of the of the government, political opponents, or other outsiders. MAGA has a smorgasbord of all three components. No other political party or movement comes anywhere near that.
You're welcome rusty
Wut? RJW, you’re claiming MAGA is a Jonestown-like cult? That’s nuts. MAGA is a political movement rooted in common sense. Yes, he’s a charismatic leader, but he is one who is reflecting what normal American people want. Trump’s not driving us. We are driving him.
You’ve jumped the shark.
Breezy, Trump didn’t emerge out of nowhere. A large part of the country was already frustrated with institutions, media, globalization, endless wars, cultural elitism, and a political class many felt talked down to them for years.
Trump tapped into that. In many ways, the movement created the opening for Trump as much as Trump created the movement.
Where I think we differ is that once movements become heavily centered around a charismatic figure, it can get harder to separate “common sense concerns” from emotional loyalty to the leader himself.
That’s partly why I pointed to the language above. It moves beyond:
“I support his policies”
or
“I agree with his priorities”
and into:
“he alone sees reality clearly,”
“he exposes hidden corruption,”
“the institutions are all aligned against him,”
“criticism proves he’s right,” etc.
That’s where movements can start becoming self-reinforcing belief systems rather than simply political coalitions.
And I never suggested or alluded to Trump’s charisma as the culprit. The other two main components are blaring loud and clear.
@Achilles
This is your hypothesis:
‘Elite men will build more and produce wealth to have more kids. Elite women will repress the other women and low status men around them.’
When I think elite men - Donald Trump.
When I think elite women - Margaret Thatcher.
Those two are outliers and have more in common with each other than they do with the average female or male 9 to 5er.
One way to look at them is to say they pursued power as part of a mating strategy. But there’s another way as well. If power doesn’t buy women mating advantage, then maybe their ambition isn’t a mating strategy after all. Margaret Thatcher wasn’t running Britain to edge out romantic rivals. And do men really pursue power as a mating strategy, or is it a fortuitous byproduct? What do truly driven men do? They work. What if the pursuit of women runs alongside their drive but doesn’t power it? The guys whose lives revolve around chasing women usually aren’t the ones building anything.
There’s the reality we live and the stories we tell ourselves afterward. Men retroactively narrate their ambition as having been about women, because that’s the culturally acceptable story. Women retroactively regret their childlessness - when they do - because that’s also the culturally acceptable story. (Although most powerful women -Thatcher included - have families and children.)
But I think when you say ‘elite women,’ you and I have two different pictures in our heads. I see Margaret Thatcher - you’re thinking about a woman in the credentialed professional class that staffs HR and enforces DEI rules. Once again - is her behavior a byproduct of a stymied biological imperative to reproduce, or a byproduct of institutional overreach in workplace norm-enforcement? She didn’t design that system (although she did optimize her position within it.) Lawyers and executives did.
I will now have to indulge in my biological imperative and restate my (by now monotonous) main point: The men-vs-women fight is suspiciously useful to the people who benefit from us not noticing other things. We spend our energy being angry with each other instead of on whoever is setting the terms.
Let’s face it: a working-class man and a working-class woman have far more in common (yes, even if they disagree on abortion) than either has with the billionaires currently cashing in on the idea that these two are each other’s problem.
Let me just add: while the war between the sexes rages online plenty of happy partnerships exist quietly in the background.
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