Said Joe Rogan, at 02:05:34, of his new podcast (with Theo Von).
Rogan wants us to marvel at the works of man. Meanwhile, Von is looking for a mystical relationship to nature itself:
"Sometimes if you lay there and look at the stars and stuff, it feels like, bro, and this is real shit I'm saying right now to me... it feels like they're looking back at you a little bit.... Well, you would think if they're all placed there… it would seem that if we went and put ourselves before them, that it would grant us something. You know, like, I'm not saying like something magical or, but something that we need. Because most of the way that things are set up, it's like everything was kind of set up in perfection. Like in our bodies. Like the fact that we exist, the fact that the eye is put together and operates the way that it does. The fact that they have like moles and parrots and everything. The fact that it all happens. And we kind of neglect that there's these like there's these orbs out there in the distance. Maybe they want to hear from us. Maybe they want us to sit there and look at them and think maybe they help us."
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Why are they not landing on the moon?
Are they going to get pictures as they fly by? and are those pictures going to show evidence of prior moon landings?
If they do, will that end the conspiracy theories regarding the moon landings being fake, or just add fuel to the fire?
They both like mushrooms…
Same as apollo 8, training wheels
Von thinks that parents can enlist their children in the military. How does a man of his years still hold such a sophomoronic notion? It makes all of his analysis suspect.
Part of the disinterest is that we landed on the moon as recently as 54 years ago, so we are just retracing the steps of people who did the same thing with less technology in their reach. However, I think a bigger issue is that the media is deliberately ignoring it as much as possible because of who is in the White House. Were it President Harris today, there would be multiple front page stories telling us how hard Harris and her administration were working to make Artemis II successful.
"will that end the conspiracy theories regarding the moon landings being fake"
No. People will try on new excuses like overcoat until they find a comfortable fit. It's human nature.
The stars do help us. It's called navigation. They also help us by marking the passing of the seasons.
Naw you cant fix stupid
“Rogan wants us to marvel at the works of man. Meanwhile, Von is looking for a mystical relationship to nature itself”
Rogan wants us to marvel at how good this fake is. Meanwhile, Von sounds like he’s already way higher than the moon.
Same as apollo 8, training wheels
Not exactly. Apollo 8 went into orbit around the moon and stayed there for 10 orbits. Artemis is doing a flyby of the moon but never actually locking into the moon's orbit, which would require extra fuel to break free and return to Earth.
Here is a video showing the difference.
Few remembers second place. Even though Armstrong was #1, who were #2, #3, and #4 on the moon's surface? Don't look it up!
The old moon missions were publicized by the TV networks, and everyone watched those networks. Network TV forced a unified culture. It doesn't help today that Trump pushed the return to the moon and the networks range from left-leaning to hard left. "Don't give him any wins."
Networks have a much smaller reach
What Kevin said, this is more like Apollo 13. Artemis doesn't have the fuel reserves to do Apollo 8.
Also, what Yancey said, if this had launch as originally planned during the Biden Administration, it would be covered as a triumph of the administration. Although to be fair, no administration should want to take credit for this taking 16 years to design and launch while not capable of repeating what was done 54 years ago.
I'll add that most certainly people outside the US are paying attention. At any time, you can travel to KSC or JSC and see Americans tourist that see space travel as exciting as another trip to Walmart. You can also see foreign tourist that are as completely fascinated with every bit of history of space travel. That's not to say no Americans care, but percentage wise, most Americans take the accomplishments of this country for granted. No one else can send 4 people around the moon.
They have like moles and parrots
Didn't expect this random Churchill quote in there.
It’s hard to get excited over this trip when we landed on the moon decades ago. I would be glued to my television if we were depositing several lefties in a moon crater.(sarc)
“Few remembers second place. Even though Armstrong was #1, who were #2, #3, and #4 on the moon's surface? Don't look it up!”
This pioneering mission will always be remembered. It’s the first Black, first woman, and first Canadian on (almost) the moon!
Why not save billions of dollars and simply use the old slide rule technology again?
Somehow I can't listen to a Theo Von podcast. I think much of it is really about Von himself, an exploration of ego, whereas Rogan's podcast is often interesting to listen, not only because of his guest, but because of Rogan's innate curiosity and his excitement to learn about new things. He's pretty open, and his curiosity has a way of imparting the excitement to the listener.
The media is downplaying if not ignoring the mission because it represents an American triumph during the Trump administration.
I'm seeing coverage everywhere, but, then, I'm looking for it. They just (like 5 minutes ago) passed the farthest point any human has ever been from Earth. I find that exciting.
Why are they not landing on the moon?
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no moonlander or equipment to get out of moon gravity well
That's an easy one, Enigma, thanks to a several years old joke.
"I am Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon. Neil before me!"
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork" —Psalm 19:1
As said above, the MSM is ignoring the flight, simply because it happens during Trumps term. X is following the flight, and half a million are watching it there. I'm glad NASA finally decided to give up worrying about 'global warming' and racism, and finally do something. Interesting that they spend much more money than Musk, and do much less.
Theo Von is interesting, if you are in 7th grade, Beyond that, he is the least imaginative and least interesting person on a podcast.
He is up there with Candace, Tucker and others who get big bucks for being self absorbed fools.
The reason why we are going back now is because there are enough people now who could and would go for a price.
When rocket science, is not rocket science.
I don’t get it. What does any of this have to do with Epstein?
Is a little way past the moon really 'deep space'? I always thought deep space started outside our solar system at the earliest, but what do I know?
Somebody ask Grok.
Did you watch the president's press conference today, ann? What did you think of his responses? Ask grok to help you think, if you need to...
Don't waste your time listening to masculine celebrity voices from Fear Factor and Road Rules. Joe and Theo might be entertaining and cute? to you, but there's no there there. They don't really represent working white men, you know.
And even with an art degree and just a few years in the legal field before you retreated to lecturing in a tenured environment, surely you remember listening to current events and forming reasoned opinions based on your legal education what you've seen in the past? They're really not smarter than you because they have a dick and draw more eyeballs than you. You know that right? Independent thinking stands alone, it's not a popularity or numbers thing. Use it or lose it, proffy. Better to end your blog than go down citing Joe and Theo, and Megan too, as your go-to thought leaders... honestly.
Fwiw
AI Answers : "The legendary comic strip The Far Side was not named by creator Gary Larson after the far side of the moon, nor was it his original choice for the title. The name was actually coined by Chronicle Features, the syndicate affiliate of the San Francisco Chronicle. Larson had originally titled his work Nature's Way when it debuted in Seattle in 1976. When the Chronicle picked up the strip for national syndication in 1980, they renamed it.
But wait, there's more: "Key details regarding the naming include:
Larson's Indifference: Larson was famously unconcerned with the title change, once joking that they "could have called it 'Revenge of the Zucchini People' for all I cared".
Meaning of the Phrase: While not a direct reference to the moon, the title "The Far Side" captures the strip's focus on things that are unconventional or at the "outer boundaries" of logic and normal human perspective.
Scientific Recognition: Despite not being named after a lunar feature, the strip became so beloved by the scientific community that actual species, such as the chewing louse Strigiphilus garylarsoni, and the anatomical term "thagomizer" for a Stegosaurus's tail spikes, were named after Larson and his work."
@Jess: That's an easy one
That's 2/4 or 50% credit. I'll give you a DEI "social promotion" passing grade for that answer.
#3, #4, #5, #6....??????
"Are they going to get pictures as they fly by? and are those pictures going to show evidence of prior moon landings?
If they do, will that end the conspiracy theories regarding the moon landings being fake, or just add fuel to the fire?"
Presumably, if you believe Apollo was faked, you also believe Artemis is faked.
Listening to the broadcast. Right now they’re all excited about being able to see the moon and earth out the same window. I’ve had that experience with my windows many times.
Also, it’s interesting that nearly every voice you hear on the broadcast is female. Almost everyone you see in the control room is white, though, so it seems NASA still has a way to go on the DEI frontier.
Re: pictures from Artemis, their closest approach to the surface is something like 4000 miles. So there won't be any close-ups.
Smilin' Jack said...Almost everyone you see in the control room is white, though, so it seems NASA still has a way to go on the DEI frontier.
They've had problems with their computer and their toilet, so there is at least some progress with DEI.
When I read that first Rogan quote, before looking down to see that it was Rogan, I read it in my mind in Trump dialect, and it fit well.
@alexisa -“ Von thinks that parents can enlist their children in the military. How does a man of his years still hold such a sophomoronic notion?”
I had heard of Von, and in general i like Rogan, so I gave this convo a whirl. I found Von a facile thinker, and wonder how he has such a successful podcast. I turned it off after 15 mins out of boredom.
Why are they not landing on the moon?
I agree. The story is that it is all new tech and this mission is to test it to see if/how well it works. But if anything important fails, all four die; if it works, then an attempt at a lunar landing would be fine. Seems weird to me.
"Are they going to get pictures as they fly by? and are those pictures going to show evidence of prior moon landings?
My understanding is that they are not really going to be close to any of the landing areas, will only be close (relatively speaking, at least) around the dark side, so probably not.
"Presumably, if you believe Apollo was faked, you also believe Artemis is faked."
Chandrayaan-2 (ISRO: Indian Space Research Organization) took really clear photos of the Apollo-11 and 12 landing sites where you can plainly see the lunar landers (and tracks where the astronauts walked). The lunatics just shriek that it was a NASA camera that took the photos. Even if that's true (it does not appear to be true), I'm not sure what it's supposed to prove. Nothing will ever convince those idiots of anything.
It's dull because it uses modern digital construction where everything is easy in terms of getting it to work as a system.
"But if anything important fails, all four die."
I don't think that's right. The rationale for the "free return" trajectory (rather than orbitting the moon) is that if anything in the propulsion system fails, they'll still return to Earth. They couldn't possibly land because the lander isn't ready. I think I saw 2028 as the earliest possible landing.
I was watching the live feed when the Artemis crew became the people who had fared farthest from Earth, surpassing Apollo 13. I like that one of the astronauts challenged this generation not to let the new record become long-lived. Around 7 p.m. Eastern, they'll reach their farthest point from Earth at 252, 757 miles (approximately), more than 4,000 miles farther than Apollo 13.
Enigma said...
Few remembers second place. Even though Armstrong was #1, who were #2, #3, and #4 on the moon's surface? Don't look it up!
Buzz Aldren, Pete Conrad, and Alen Bean in that order. And I did not have to look that up.
The math of the trip is incredibly precise. Just when we seem to be going in the opposite direction… we eighty-sixed the penny.
Wonder how many hours a day Von spends on his hair
What is weird is saying no one is interested.
I mean, speak for yourself.
SpaceX is blowing up rockets at taxpayer expense suposedly so our ancestors can live on Mars, but the only thing that Elon Musk wants is for us to continue to finance his businesses.
And Trump is trying to become the first president in 50 years to finance more wasteful bullshit while driving down our economy and financing another 20 year war for no reason whatsoever.
Niether Joe Rogan nor I are curious as to who Artimus is in Greek mythology.
Meh. We do not hate the Democrat party media - enough.
Theo Von is a comedian. What do you want from the man?
"SpaceX is blowing up rockets at taxpayer expense"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but SpaceX is privately funded. Any taxpayer money they've received is for contracts for missions that have saved the taxpayers boatloads of money compared to NASA (if NASA could even do them).
And Trump is trying to become the first president in 50 years to finance more wasteful bullshit while driving down our economy and financing another 20 year war for no reason whatsoever.
I wish you lefties could distinguish between having a reason that you perhaps do not entirely agree with and "no reason whatsoever." It is unquestionable that Iran both routinely preaches death to America (and to the West generally) and has been aggressively pursuing nuclear weapons, and that standing alone is a reason. You can in (somewhat)good faith argue that it is not enough or a reason, but it is sophistry to claim that there are no reasons whatsoever.
Wonder how many hours a day Von spends on his hair
One on the front, three on the back...
This stuff is just as amazing and wonderful to me as it was in the 60's when I was just kid riding a bicycle. It is so far removed from anything we see or do on earth, so incredibly difficult and complicated that it still seems impossible. The fact that it was done half a century ago too now seems like myth. The icing on the cake of the Greatest Generation.
My mind was on Rabel's comment at 1:02.
The real reason.
I've waited over 50 years for us to get back to the moon, far longer than I thought possible or conceivable as an excited 13-16 year old kid during the Apollo missions 8-17. Back then, I was certain we would quickly colonize the moon and move on to Mars - and long before I turned 50 (or, alas, by age 70).
That said, I've got Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" playing all day on my turntable.
Rogan and Theo are all cool by me.
"If they do, will that end the conspiracy theories regarding the moon landings being fake, or just add fuel to the fire?"
If they manage to survive passage through the Van Allen belts, that will remove one of the stronger arguments for the landings being faked.
"I wish you lefties could distinguish between having a reason that you perhaps do not entirely agree with and "no reason whatsoever."
They're not saying it for you. It's like a Daily Affirmation for them: "I am a Righteous Dude who stands alone against the rise of the 4th Reich". They repeat assertions to maintain their alternate reality. Like a spell.
It's why so many are going insane. Turns out one CAN teach his mind to edit reality, to see a dude in a skirt as a woman. The problem is that the subconscious mind takes notes. And then one day, uncomfortable truths start being edited away without their knowledge or permission. And they go stark raving mad.
AI Overview
"SpaceX's development of rockets, particularly the Starship program, is primarily funded by private capital rather than direct taxpayer subsidies. While the company has received billions in government contracts, these are generally "fixed-price" agreements where the government pays for a service (like launching a satellite), and SpaceX bears the financial risk of mission failure or development setbacks."
With regard to the question posed in the first response: Will they see evidence of the prior moon landings? From the space.com timeline for the lunar flyby for more or less right now regarding the pictures the crew is taking.
"The crew has 35 targets for 10 science objectives. They may see the Apollo 14 and Apollo 12 landing sites."
But that doesn't guarantee they will nor that they would expect to see any traces of the landings.
Theo, bro, that's heavy. It's like, you know, all we are is dust in the wind...
Today I learned from gadfly that, while boosting more mass to orbit than the rest of the world combined, BY FAR, SpaceX is simultaneously spending most of their time blowing up rockets.
There's actually a line in "The Right Stuff" book, about how the Soviets are getting into space and the benighted American rockets keep blowing up on the pad.
A friend's father, who was a top physicist in the country, told us that there would be color pictures of Apollo 11. I couldn't wait.
"Theo Von is a comedian. What do you want from the man?"
Heh. Nope. That's the same "clown nose on, clown nose off" bd the late night propagandists use.
The media is downplaying if not ignoring the mission because it represents an American triumph during the Trump administration.
Yep. Not a single story on the main page of our local news. But two stories on the increasing 'affordability crisis,' and how it's Trump's fault.
As if the President of the United States is responsible for your spending habits.
SpaceX is blowing up rockets at taxpayer expense suposedly so our ancestors can live on Mars...
Who wants to tell him?
“ Back then, I was certain we would quickly colonize the moon and move on to Mars - and long before I turned 50 (or, alas, by age 70).”
Try never. No one is lining up to colonize Antarctica, and Antarctica is the land of milk and honey compared to Mars. And a lot easier to get to.
"If they manage to survive passage through the Van Allen belts, that will remove one of the stronger arguments for the landings being faked."
"Stronger arguments". Only in your head.
Since that's clearly impossible, they're already dead, Jupiter. Good thing NASA had them record all this audio and video before they left.
"Who wants to tell him?"
Forget it. He's on a roll.
Narr said...
“Is a little way past the moon really 'deep space'? I always thought deep space started outside our solar system at the earliest.”
Deep space starts where someone has yet to boldly go where no one has gone before.
"Try never. No one is lining up to colonize Antarctica, and Antarctica is the land of milk and honey compared to Mars. And a lot easier to get to."
The reason (or one of them, anyway) for going to Mars is accomplishing a goal that cannot be satisfied by colonizing Antarctica.
So there's that...
Nature's Way sounds like you really want to go to the bathroom.
Everything is Amazing and Nobody is Happy
One of my earliest memories is sitting on my grandfather's lap to watch Neil Armstrong step onto the moon. I was crazy for rockets and space exploration for many years thereafter. I recall watching the first space shuttle launch and landing as a high schooler, and seeing the Challenger explosion in college. After that disaster, it seemed like we lost our mojo and everything we did with manned spaceflight was little more than a Door Dash delivery to the ISS. The little unmanned Mars rovers got more ink.
Thank God for Musk and SpaceX. They brought back some of the magic of the early years, and if they go to Mars in my lifetime, it will be even more exciting. I hope the Artemis program goes well and NASA can become something better than a sad, fat old man reliving the time he quarterbacked the football team to the state championship fifty years ago.
Yeah, "we" find moon landings dull but find Sean Hannity and 60 minutes interesting. A strange world indeed.
When I was younger and crazier and poorer, I lived for a year in Florida, in the Deep South area north of Daytona Beach. It's all developed now, but back then it was a wild place, and I used to always be enthralled by the rocket launches, which we could see as they gained altitude. There's something about it that I find profoundly stirring, and it made me think of Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles every time, especially the short passage of 'rocket summer'.
One of these days I'll load up and make the long drive to see one go up, and maybe come down, at Starbase.
Theo Von made a great point, and called out the Israelis for being the True Terrorists. But evidently their crimes are another thing people find dull, since the MSM doesnt report on them. How many people know the Israelis have invaded lebanon, forced over 1 million to flee their homes, and are killing civilians and journalists (as always). Of course that's one front. They're also bombing Iranian hospitals and schools, and killing the odd palestinian in the West Bank.
Bibi is a busy man. But war crimes seem to be too dull to get reported by the MSM.
Getting back to Space travel. People were very interested in the Space Shuttle in the 80s. The Challenger disaster struck hard, because a lot of people were listening to the radio or watching the Lift off on TV.
Shorter RCOCEAN: "The Joooos!"
@Gadfly: "...SpaceX is blowing up rockets at taxpayer expense suposedly so our ancestors can live on Mars...."
Now - this is intriguing, please, please tell us more. Are they all still alive, up there on Mars? Can I go see my great grandfather? Benjamin Franklin is a first cousin, many times removed; can a meet & greet be arranged? I'm fascinated to learn more about this, and surprised that Rogan didn't cover it.
Apparently in Gadfly's mind, Mars is equivalent to heaven, where our ancestors who were good went to after they died.
Who wants to tell him?"
Forget it. He's on a roll.
LOL! Well done.
Jupiter - if passage through the Van Allen belts is not survivable, then everyone who's ever had a typical CT scan is dead from it, since a single one of those typical scans has a higher mSv dose than what would be experienced passing through (outbound + inbound) the Van Allen belts.
I'm of the age when they wheeled in a small B&W TV into our classrooms so we could watch the launches of the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs. We were on vacation in South Florida (prior to moving there) and my family, excepting my little brother, all stayed up late to watch the moon landing. It was terrific.
Theo Von is unique — "moles and parrots" — who else would say that? It's like that owl remark he made to Trump when Trump went on his show — "Cocaine will turn you into a damned owl."
“ Thank God for Musk and SpaceX. They brought back some of the magic of the early years, and if they go to Mars in my lifetime, it will be even more exciting. I hope the Artemis program goes well and NASA can become something better than a sad, fat old man reliving the time he quarterbacked the football team to the state championship fifty years ago.”
Good analogy. Space X already has over half the satellite launches every year in the world. Their Space Ship and Heavy launcher will soon put the Artemis launcher out of business. NASA already can’t compete, and it will get worse very quickly.
“SpaceX is blowing up rockets at taxpayer expense suposedly so our ancestors can live on Mars...”
My ancestors are all gone now, quietly interred back down here on earth.
It’s likely that the Moon will come first anyway. That would allow them to bootstrap Mars flights from there. Ultimately, it’s going to be far cheaper to get orbital facilities made on the moon, and launched from the Moon, than from Earth.
Anyone else note that Tesla is shutting down a significant amount of their Tesla manufacturing? Why? To build their robots. And why would they do that? Because putting humans into space long term is expensive. Not so robots. And it’s easy since one of Musk’s companies builds some of the best robots around, and another of his companies has a volume need for them. Hence the conversion from production lies for Teslae, to production lines for robots - mostly by just reprogramming the robots on the assembly lines.
"Ultimately, it’s going to be far cheaper to get orbital facilities made on the moon, and launched from the Moon, than from Earth."
Depends. Have you considered the environmental impact reports that'll be needed?
Theo Von is so stupid, they really ought to make him a co-host of "The View."
If you've never listened to the BBC's 13 Minutes series, you really should! Season 4 is about Artemis II.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0nbrrqj
All photography is digital with Nikon D5s and Nikon Z9 (which was partly developed *for* Artemis) is on board as well. Also iPhone 17 Pros and GoPro Hero5 Blacks for less-formal photography and videography.
https://www.space.com/space-exploration/artemis/the-moon-up-close-how-the-artemis-2-astronauts-are-photographing-their-historic-lunar-flyby
Apollo 8 had 7 prior missions to test their equipment.
Artemis 2 had....one. And they decided to go manned to the moon.
It's a technological triumph that we get LIVE FEED video from the far side of the moon, and many people here are acting like it's not good enough.
As for pictures of Apollo landing sights, they've been available from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter for about 15 years.
https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/10818
gadfly, you have all of the foresight of an ostrich with its head in the sand. I'm glad that you are not in charge of any space program, private or government.
“ Theo Von is unique — "moles and parrots" — who else would say that?”
Bob Dylan.
@Enigma: Oops, right you are. Mea culpa.
"Ultimately, it’s going to be far cheaper to get orbital facilities made on the moon, and launched from the Moon, than from Earth."
“Depends. Have you considered the environmental impact reports that'll be needed?”
Not sure that the Moon would be any worse than Mars. More importantly, who would have jurisdiction? Maybe the US, because we’ve had the only boots on the ground there. The ChiComs aren’t going to be very happy with that, since they intend to claim as much of the Moon as they can. Maybe the UN then, but they would likely face at least two Security Council vetos (US, CN). If it depends on how much of the Moon someone could explore or utilize, the nod would probably go to Musk and SpaceX.
When I google The Far Side all I get now is moon shit.
I mean, I like science, but comedy is vital for humanity.
Dark Side of the Moon has also been co-opted, but at least Google is trying to sell me Pink Floyd, simultaneously. What about the cows and the beehive hairdos? You suck, Google. Science, science, science and technology. Nerds are in heaven.
Technically I was googling "Far Side in space." Which to me is obviously a request for Far Side cartoons in space. Pilot error, I guess. More words needed?
Damn AI is training me again.
gadfly said...
SpaceX is blowing up rockets at taxpayer expense suposedly so our ancestors can live on Mars, but the only thing that Elon Musk wants is for us to continue to finance his businesses.
And Trump is trying to become the first president in 50 years to finance more wasteful bullshit while driving down our economy and financing another 20 year war for no reason whatsoever.
Let me contribute by saying I would vastly prefer the government waste money on going to the moon than spend another dime attempting to educate idiots or fattening up poor people. I prefer a country where poor people are skinny and willing to work. And we can have just as many idiots without the pretense of educating them at public expense.
Far Side Cartoons in Space
Dear Henry, Where were you? We waited and waited...
“SpaceX is blowing up rockets at taxpayer expense suposedly so our ancestors can live on Mars...”
I petty well guarantee that the USG has gotten far more in their launch prices, than they ever got in early subsidies. Almost all USG launches these days go through SpaceX, where the USG gets volume discounted launch prices and priority access.
Real story. Daughter is a sr test engineer for an aerospace company. They test optical sensors for USG satellites before they are launched. Testing is mostly hot, cold, vacuum, and vibrations. Last one finished early because they all of a sudden realized that they only had to deal with 2-3 vibrational profiles, instead of the dozen or so they had planned to test. Because it was very likely that the satellite would be launched by SpaceX. As a result of this realization, they were done testing a couple weeks early.
“SpaceX is blowing up rockets at taxpayer expense suposedly so our ancestors can live on Mars...”
I petty well guarantee that the USG has gotten far more in their launch prices, than they ever got in early subsidies. Almost all USG launches these days go through SpaceX, where the USG gets volume discounted launch prices and priority access.
Real story. Daughter is a sr test engineer for an aerospace company. They test optical sensors for USG satellites before they are launched. Testing is mostly hot, cold, vacuum, and vibrations. Last one finished early because they all of a sudden realized that they only had to deal with 2-3 vibrational profiles, instead of the dozen or so they had planned to test. Because it was very likely that the satellite would be launched by SpaceX. As a result of this realization, they were done testing a couple weeks early.
I'd rather listen to some guy get mystical about the life, then universe, and everything, then some dead soul that yaps about stock market or some ranter going on about Muslims. I must say that Joe Rogan usually avoids those sorts of bores, but you meet in the real life.
In Tsarist Russia, enthusiasm for space exploration was tied to enthusiasm for achieving immortality and reviving our dead ancestors, for if you managed to bring them back, you'd need a place to put them -- why not on other planets?
Artemis - Greek goddess of hunting, the wilderness, wild animals, transitions, nature, vegetation, childbirth, care of children, and chastity. The Greek equivalent of Diana the huntress. Somehow she crossed the Atlantic and changed sex to give us Artemus Ward and Artemus Gordon.
“ Sometimes if you lay there and look at the stars and stuff, it feels like, bro, and this is real shit I'm saying right now to me... it feels like they're looking back at you a little bit.“
Theo Vonn is a genius, he has independently reproduced the work of Nietzsche! What an adolescent dumbshit.
That word "supposedly" communicates to me the knee jerk nature of Joe Rogan's thinking. If you don't believe, Joe, explain what the humans in the capsule might actually be doing.
I like Joe, but he can do a lot better.
I just listened to this on the ride home from Boston. We were privileged to watch the NY State Troopers assist a towing company extricated a woman's car from a deep ravine. The car was totaled.
A lot has been made about Vonn's remarks about sending rich people's kids to war. This was just a few sentences, and the rest was two friends BSing about everything. Quite entertaining.
In my non-illustrious military career, I ran into quite a few "Children of Privilege." There are more than a few out there, and Vonn is just ignorant of their existence.
I prefer a country where poor people are skinny and willing to work. And we can have just as many idiots without the pretense of educating them at public expense.
Indeed, why bother? They will just use their toilet-paper diploma to wangle a lucrative, undemanding government job where they can inflict decades of misery on the people who pay their salary and then retire on a gold plated pension unavailable to anyone in the private sector.
Deep space? Uh, no.
Cmon ann...
We know you've seen this morning's truth social post.
Wake up and do your fucking job, soldier.
Find your voice, pretty old lady? Dont give us radio silence now.
I'm sure lots of commenters have noticed, but I feel like piling on too: Theo Von is pushing 50, but still thinks like an 11-year-old. A clever, charming 11-year-old with a quick mind, but still a stone-ignorant pre-adolescent who thinks he's a lot smarter than he is. "You lay there and look at the stars and stuff ... " This sounds like dialog from a 60s Disney movie starring Kurt Russell. I mean, congratulations Theo, you just rediscovered Pagan pillow-talk circa 20,000 B.C.
Joe has him on because Von is a comedian and Joe likes bullshitting with comics. Sometimes it's entertaining to listen in on inter-comic banter. But Von, like fellow alleged "comic" and professional bullshitter Dave Smith, knows nothing about anything, and is worse than useless as a guide to, say, the Gaza war or the space program. Or really, anything with life-and-death consequences.
Well, if it doesn't involve Gayle King and Katie Perry, why should anyone care?
"Well, if it doesn't involve Gayle King and Katie Perry, why should anyone care?"
Ooooh! What have you heard?
Jim: "Pagan pillow-talk"
I am so stealing that.
Joe: "I ran into quite a few "Children of Privilege." There are more than a few out there, and Vonn is just ignorant of their existence."
Spot on. In my experience the common denominator isn't poverty, it's (usually) people coming from broken families looking for a wolfpack to be a part of.
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