Disyembre 3, 2025

"Republicans and Democrats are now nearly unanimous in believing the other party has gone too far with its rhetoric and are much more likely to think this than in 2011."

"Ninety-four percent of Democrats, compared with 74% in 2011, now say Republicans and their supporters have gone too far, and 93% of Republicans (vs. 63% in 2011) say the same about Democrats and their supporters. In contrast, partisans are disinclined to believe their own party has gone too far with its rhetoric and are no more likely now than in 2011 to hold this view. Today, 36% of Republicans believe the GOP and its supporters’ rhetoric has gone too far, compared with 32% in 2011. And Democrats are less likely now (28%) than in 2011 (45%) to say their party’s rhetoric has been too inflammatory."

From "More Americans Say Political Rhetoric Has Gone Too Far/69% say Republicans', 60% say Democrats' inflammatory criticism of opponents has gone too far" (Gallup).

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tommyesq ayon kay ...

Leftist rhetoric has gotten people shot (and shot at) and the number of Dems who think leftist rhetoric has gone too far has declined??

Bob B ayon kay ...

The left lives in a fantasy world. Polls show they also think the mainstream media is biased in favor of Republicans!?!

Larry J ayon kay ...

Leftists: "You're Hitler! You're worse than Hitler! You should be shot!"
Conservatives: "Leftists are advocating violence."
Leftists: "You're threating me!"

Achilles ayon kay ...

Democrats aren’t just going too far with rhetoric. They killed Charlie Kirk.

rehajm ayon kay ...

and 99 percent want the other side to disarm so our rhetoric is more effective…

Achilles ayon kay ...

Also note the discussion below.

Ann whines and moans about Trump stating the fact that Somalians have formed a community that is stealing money from Americans and refuses to assimilate. He calls Ilhan Omar garbage.

Did Ann respond to the point Trump made?

No. Ann called us racist.

So yeah you are going too far Ann.

Earnest Prole ayon kay ...

A majority of Americans are neither Republican nor Democrat and couldn’t care less about what people in these two dopey parties think about each other.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Racism bullshit is the "too far" for me.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

As noted many times by others when we point out their violent hateful rhetoric it is a "Republicans Pounce" story by the dishonest corporate media. That's why no honest assessment can me made using what is aired or printed as the basis for assessing it.

Why? Because they filter out so much of what democrats say and amplify and twist everything Trump says. the shear volume of violent rhetoric on the left is overwhelming to anyone who ventures into social media. Our side is too busy being productive to spend that much time being emotional over politics.

Zavier Onasses ayon kay ...

So, no longer asymmetric. A more level "playing field." Never argue with an idiot, they just drag you into gutter and beat you with experience.

Maybe a synthesis party will emerge with focus on Liberty: minimalist government, emphasis on individual responsibility, socially liberal, fiscally conservative.

Achilles ayon kay ...

Ann calls men “Splooge Stooges” for years and calls Trump supporters racists 2 posts down. I wonder if we should bring up Ann’s posts during COVID.

Let’s talk about the definition of too far for a bit.

rhhardin ayon kay ...

I suppose flammatory and inflammatory mean the same thing.

n.n ayon kay ...

Immolation? On the train with Diversity motives. Perhaps served with a molotov cocktail chaser and some Fava beans.

Temujin ayon kay ...

I've been called a racist, homophobe, misogynist Klan member who resembles Hitler for so long I'm actually numb to all of it at this point. For years the right just politely took it. Now they are calling names back at the other guys and, damn!...they don't like it.

Kevin ayon kay ...

Cameron: Okay Ferris, can we just let it go, please?

Sloane: Ferris, please. You've gone to far. We're going to get busted.

Ferris: A: You can never go too far. B: If my Party's gonna get busted, it is *not* gonna be by a Party like *that*.

mikee ayon kay ...

What little I know of rhetoric I picked up long ago from reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, wherein I also learned that a child riding behind the driver of a motorcycle has an experience of limited views. And that brings me to the subject of this post, which is "how far is too far" and thus an extension of "Civility Bullshit." Those complaining about the current rhetorical escalations should first remember, "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me." And then recall also that the loudest complaints about political words come from those whose ox is being gored, whose money and power are being threatened, and whose side is losing. So I guess this means both sides are now losing, at least, which is nice.

Curious George ayon kay ...

Only one side is pulling triggers.

Lazarus ayon kay ...

Something is wrong with those Democrats. The party and its rhetoric are far more extreme and inflammatory than a dozen years ago. Maybe the composition of the party or the polling sample changed, or maybe the extreme and inflammatory rhetoric of the party makes it hard for partisans to judge just what is extreme or inflammatory.

boatbuilder ayon kay ...

Well then, it's good to see we all agree on something.

Aggie ayon kay ...

So....are we supposed to believe the Legacy Mainstream Media (D) reporting on what Republicans think? Using the latest polling techniques?

The data on 'perceived causes of political violence' is interesting, considering who was doing the rioting here a few years ago.

n.n ayon kay ...

But we're a liberal litany of Diversity, Equivocation, and Indifference with politically congruent congruent constructs to boot, and redistributive change schemes with bennies. Yes, you are. #HateLovesAbortion

buwaya ayon kay ...

In Spain nobody calls me a "racist, homophobe, misogynist Klan member who resembles Hitler", not even in the local MSM and social media, and not even by PSOE politicians.

Mr. Forward ayon kay ...

If either party is this side of Pluto they haven't gone far enough.

Josephbleau ayon kay ...

The results of this poll are modest if you consider a 4% moe. The results have not changed much since 2011. The only largish difference is that democrats feel that their party is 17% less likely to have inflammatory rhetoric. So the rise of the Muslim affiliated democrats reps, Crockett, and AOC have not moved the bar, but lowered the inflammation, according to democrats voters.

To me this just proves that indoctrination really does work.

D.D. Driver ayon kay ...

To those of us who are members of neither tribe, these results are obvious. Literally both sides now call for killing their opponents but they split hairs to explain why it's okay when they do it (but *only* when they do it).

n.n ayon kay ...

Bloc Lyrics Mutter

Iman ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Iman ayon kay ...

How can you trust fellow countrymen who open the borders, flood America with 20,000,000 unvetted, undocumented aliens and then lie about what they’ve done and why!?!?

Achilles ayon kay ...

We have a political party that has imported a huge number of people from Somalia and conspired with those people to steal over a billion dollars from American taxpayers in fraudulent welfare payments.

People in this community chant “Death to America” and have killed a non zero number of Americans. Their leader has said she serves Somalia above the United States.

I don’t really give a fuck if Democrats are mad that they are described as traitors.

They are traitors. Traitors deserve a fair trial before they hang.

Maynard ayon kay ...

The left lives in a fantasy world. Polls show they also think the mainstream media is biased in favor of Republicans!?!

That is what happens when you spend your time on Bluesky, CNN and MSNBC.

The role of mainstream media is to keep the loyal Democrats in line. They are pretty good at that.

dwshelf ayon kay ...

When Trump sees Clarence Thomas as somehow the same a a Somali fraudster, we'll call him a racist.

Rocco ayon kay ...

dwshelf said...
When Trump sees Clarence Thomas as somehow the same a a Somali fraudster, we'll call him a racist.

As opposed to Democrats who see him as a “race traitor”.

tim maguire ayon kay ...

Each side has people who say things better left unsaid. And of course partisans are going to be more upset by the other side's intemperate remarks than they are by their own.

But as discussed right out of the gate in this thread, leftist rhetoric has gotten people killed and a substantial portion of Democrats prefer it to the days when leftist rhetoric didn't get people killed.

That seems rather more significant to me.

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

They are traitors. Traitors deserve a fair trial before they hang.

How does your contention that traitors deserve a fair trial, when by your reckoning 30 % of the population are traitors. Can you imagine giving 100 million plus a fair trial. How exactly would that work.

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

In Spain nobody calls me a "racist, homophobe, misogynist Klan member who resembles Hitler", not even in the local MSM and social media, and not even by PSOE politicians.

Considering that Spain suffered through almost forty years of Franco, I don't know what point you are trying to make.

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

Racism bullshit is the "too far" for me.

How does that square with Trump's contention that al Somalis are "garbage".

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

Our side is too busy being productive to spend that much time being emotional over politics.

And yet, you spend a whole lot of time posting here.

Iman ayon kay ...

That’s a lie, Fredo. Trump called Iihan Omar and HER friends “garbage”.

Iman ayon kay ...

Make that Ilhan “BroFo” Omar…

Iman ayon kay ...

“Can you imagine giving 100 million plus a fair trial. How exactly would that work.”

Don’t know how it would work “exactly”, but it’s worth a try.

RCOCEAN II ayon kay ...

Talking about "aveage" R and D's is irrelevant. Talk about the MSM, the pundits, and the politicians. The R's in media and on social media CONSTANTLY attack those on the Right. The D's never attack those on the Left.

"No enemies to the Left" is a Leftwing rule.

You had Leftists celebrating when modest, nice, Charlie Kirk was murdered. With little or no blowback from "reaonable Democrats".

In 2020, when BLM/antifa were rioting and looting cities, Biden and D's said little, and even claimed antifa didn't exist.

Meanwhile, every R who "goes too far" in his rhetoric is condemned by some Republican. Including Fox News, and the NY Post.

William ayon kay ...

My guess is that on a per capita basis there are more fraudulent Somalis than murderous cops, and I'm okay with defunding the Somalis. I think Trump has gone a bit overboard in his description of them, but it's not a patch on what the left was saying about cops during the Floyd thing.......Will Rogers said that the reason we have two parties is because you can't fool all of the people all of the time. I'm sure Trump is wrong about a lot of things, but I can put my finger on anything that Kamala was right about. And she's Ed Koch compared to Mamdani.

Jim at ayon kay ...

Are Republicans shooting Democrats? No. So stop your whining.

Jim at ayon kay ...

How does that square with Trump's contention that al Somalis are "garbage".

Apparently Freder forgot Joe Biden called all Trump supporters garbage. Typical.

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

My guess is that on a per capita basis there are more fraudulent Somalis than murderous cops, and I'm okay with defunding the Somalis.

Now, rate the fraudulent Saudis. Their schemes are in the billions of dollars.

pacwest ayon kay ...

"Rhetoric gone to far"

In this instance isn't that the same thing as 'I know what would be best why aren't you listening'? Any parent with a toddler is familiar with the situation.

pacwest ayon kay ...

Maybe diversity is not a strength.

Achilles ayon kay ...

Freder Frederson said...

They are traitors. Traitors deserve a fair trial before they hang.

How does your contention that traitors deserve a fair trial, when by your reckoning 30 % of the population are traitors. Can you imagine giving 100 million plus a fair trial. How exactly would that work.

You start with the leaders, i.e. Walz. You present evidence. When it becomes clear that Walz Conspired with Somali citizens to steal money and punish whistleblowers you hang Walz. Then you try his staffers. Hang them.

You just keep going until Democrats start slinking away and pretending they never supported importing Somalis, giving them money that they took from American taxpayers, helping them kill ICE LEOs and National Guard soldiers, and chanting "death to America" and burning American flags with them.

Achilles ayon kay ...

Kevin said...

BREAKING: Minneapolis Mayor Frey says he will not cooperate with ICE, starts speaking Somali mid-speech

Mayor Frey is a traitor. The definition of the word in every sense.

He and his entire administration in Minneapolis need to be arrested, and given a fair trial.

Anyone found to have helped foreigners steal money from Americans and/or supported foreign enemies against ICE agents enforcing US law should hang.

They clearly committed treason and that is the penalty for treason.

Anyone who commits treason should continue to be executed until everyone who thinks treason is OK has fled the country, surrendered, or been executed.

narciso ayon kay ...

The tiktok dancers tell you everything else

narciso ayon kay ...

Having surrendered minneapolis back in 2020

Iman ayon kay ...

OT, but RIP Steve Cropper, 84…

narciso ayon kay ...

https://justthenews.com/government/security/biden-admin-created-exemption-hundreds-low-level-taliban-civil-servants

Peachy ayon kay ...

Jim at said...
Are Republicans shooting Democrats? No. So stop your whining.

that

chuck ayon kay ...

I've felt that way about Democrats since 2003, and I used to be one. It's why I started voting straight-ticket Republican. What goes around, comes around.

tommyesq ayon kay ...

Now, rate the fraudulent Saudis. Their schemes are in the billions of dollars.

Oh, in that case let's let the Somalis do whatever they want...

bagoh20 ayon kay ...

They never hang or even try all the traitors. Just a few get punished, like every other crime. Nobody expects to catch every one, just dissuade most. Is there some reason treason should be different?

Freder Frederson ayon kay ...

Many of you seem to think that that were halcyon (perhaps back when America was great the first time) days where we were executing traitors left and right.

Have you even bothered to check how many traitors have been executed in the history of the U.S. If you don't, look it up. You also seem to think that the US military used to execute deserters at the drop of a hat. That never happened.

hombre ayon kay ...

Yeah. Republicans are saying, “Democrats are schmucks.” Bad news when all Democrats are saying is, “Let’s kill Republican fascists!”

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