The answer is two-fold:
1. A group called Feeding Our Future accused the state of racism for "slow walking" their application. This wasn't long after the "national reckoning" that followed the death of George Floyd, and "at that time, nobody wanted to be called a racist, even it was wholly unfounded" and "that really had a paralyzing effect on people in state government who knew something funny was going on, but didn't really want to stick their necks out and stop it."
2. Money was cycling back to the Democratic Party. "Somali Americans have become politically quite powerful in the state... and... became important donors to their campaigns.... [S]ome democratic elected officials... worried that any action they took to question or intervene in a way that would maybe stop these schemes, could have alienated a really important constituency."
Now, the podcasters clearly wish the fraud problem could be solved by Minnesota. But Trump has jumped at the opportunity to emphasize what reads as racial. He forthrightly — brutally — connected the fraud problem to immigration from the wrong places:
Just as Minnesota seemed ready to start having a more frank and constructive conversation about race and even to just talk about the fact that Somalis were largely responsible for these cases of fraud, it's now been bulldozed by the debate over immigration and the xenophobic rhetoric that we're hearing from the President. It's going to be really hard to disentangle these two issues...
The 2 issues are inherently entangled, aren't they? But the question is whether the American people will choose to see them as entangled. Trump is doing all he can to keep them entangled. The only way to disentangle them, I think, is to appeal to the idealism of those of us who would love to see all human beings as individuals to be judged on their own merit. But those Minnesota officials who were afraid of being called racist chose not to judge people based on their individual merit. They are more responsible for the entanglement than Trump is. He just held their feet to the fire. And he's not cowed by the fear of being called racist.
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Diversity (i.e. class-disordered ideologies).
Here come the excuses. Poor Democrats - they were worried about being called "raaaaaacissss"
Unbelievable the size and the scope of the fraud. Our government is so sick and the incentives are.so perverse that I no longer believe in reform. Our only effective option is to deport them all, bulldoze entitlement programs, and start all over from scratch.
Anything less will just be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Short answer: Democrats: There's fraud happening should we do something about it? Democrats: Does it impact our bottom line? Democrats: Yes. Democrats: What fraud?
The headline is incorrect. Officials in the Minnesota state government noticed and told superiors years ago. Walz quashed their objections. Somali support and money was to important to him.
The new law, enacted this week, authorizing 12 weeks of state sponsored vacation, all paid for by tax increases, opens up a new method for theft.
"Just as Minnesota seemed ready to start having a more frank and constructive conversation about race and even to just talk about the fact that Somalis were largely responsible for these cases of fraud,"
The first leg of the liberal triad.
"the debate over immigration and the xenophobic rhetoric that we're hearing from the President"
Is it really xenophobic if Trump is just against immigration from some countries but in favor of immigration from other countries? Wasn't there a kerfuffle during the first Trump administration when it was claimed Trump said he wanted more good immigrants from countries like Scandinavian countries? If it is really xenophobic wouldn't the policies have to look more like medieval Japan who shut out just about everyone but some Portuguese?
"Just as Minnesota seemed ready to start having a more frank and constructive conversation about race and even to just talk about the fact that Somalis were largely responsible for these cases of fraud,"
Five years on! This is just pathetic. In addition to the fraudsters, those officials who looked the other way need to be prosecuted.
The podcasters wish the fraud problem could be solved by Minnesota? They created the effing problem! They shouldn't be left in place to "solve" it.
There is a place for rational racism. Or not really racism, "race" being way over-broad. It is about group characteristics that have a bearing on synergy with other groups. Somalis are a problematic people. Muslims in general (most sub-groups, not all) are problematic peoples. There is experience with these and other groups, in the US and elsewhere. This experience should inform an optimal immigration policy.
Democrats imported foreign soldiers and people.
Democrats took money from Americans and gave it to those people.
Those people gave some of that money back to democrats.
Democrats and those people are working together to attack ICE agents and National Guard Soldiers.
The issue is obviously "tangled."
Or you could just be honest and call democrats fucking traitors.
The trouble with racial commentary in the US is there's very different expressions of both racism and non-racism.
There's the person who views all people in a race as the same.
If they see the sameness as being mostly bad qualities, they are a racist.
There are people who don't feel bad about it.
But some people also see the sameness as being all good. Also racist.
Often these go together. The white racist sees all black people as bad, but all white people as good.
There are the people who lump all people in a race as having bad qualities, but they feel bad about feeling this way, so overcompensate.
Then there are the people who actually are not racist, they don't lump all people in a race as being the same.
Some of these people are actively aware of the racial history and tensions, so are sensitive about rhetoric or actions.
Some of these people are so not racist they just treat groups (like national background or specific sub-cultures) or individuals equally, calling out good and bad depending on the specific circumstances. These people can look like racists to the first type above (who see all people in the group as the same) but their only real fault is not being sensitive to perceptions and rhetoric.
US history is filled with all these types. Trump strikes me as the latter. He doesn't lump people together but can seem like he does if people see his critiques against a sub-culture as being equivalent to critique of all the people in that race. The people who see him as lumping all people together are actually exposing their own tendency to racial generalizing--they are racist, but don't like that so they assume someone like Trump is critiquing all black people when he is specifically targeting Somalian culture.
One of the best examples of these different categories of racism and non-racism is in the movie Glory. Colonel Shaw is the non-racist not sensitive to rhetoric or actions. Actually the least racist in the movie. Major Forbes is the sensitive non-racist. The CSA and decisions by the US Government (and people like the quartermaster) are racist and approve of it. General Harker and Colonel Montgomery are the racists who are paternalistic, excellent examples of so many progressives out there today (including the corruption).
Immigration reform is xenophobic. #HateLovesAbortion
Forthrightly - brutally…
And from a mass immigration perspective: correctly.
I’m happy to judge Somalians, and persons of any nationality, as human beings on an individual basis, provided we’re willing to get rid of immigration processes giving blanket preference or special treatment on a MASS basis.
Until then? No.
Diversity is a basket of ideologies under a phobic umbrella with transmutative properties. Grifters are equitable and inclusive.
How much of the sclerosis, the inability to fix problems in the Western world can be traced back to (1) fear of being called a racist, and (2) corruption in the flow of public money?
Will Trump really go after the Democratic establishment for its role in this crime? I hope so, but I doubt it.
[S]ome democratic elected officials... worried that any action they took to question or intervene in a way that would maybe stop these schemes, could have alienated a really important constituency.
This is an interesting sentence to me: Democrats benefited from big donations from Somali sources (and one could ask why they were contributing so much to Democrats - is it just because Democrats were and are in power and you want to bribe the people in power, not just everyone indiscriminately? Or was it because they prefer Democrats to stay in power for policy reasons? Could go either way). And they didn't speak up because they didn't want to "alienate" their "constituents" - lose those donations, that is.
I mean, it's entirely to be expected - politicians don't want to lose donors. But I'm bemused by the framing that it isn't about losing donors but rather about "altienating a consistency."
My husband and I have been talking about this. It's an entirely rational thing that people coming from countries where participating in corruption is how you get ahead, or even just survive, as others have pointed out, Southern Italians and especially Sicilians brought "their thing" with them; I'll go out on a limb and assume that Irish immigrants had their own thing back in the day. Which Scandinavian country is it that is starting to mandate acculturation classes for new immigrants from countries where culture and traditions are significantly incompatible with the new country? Any chance we could do something like that? I think virtually everyone in the United States would be happy to have legal, assimilated, productive immigrants from anywhere in the world, including the s******* countries.
Not that you can just make people take a class and have them suddenly embrace a set of cultural norms radically different from the ones they grew up with. Hence, I think it actually does make sense to "pause" immigration from said s******* countries (that is, the countries where corruption is an absolutely normal way of life) while we get a handle on the immigrants, legal and otherwise, who are already here.
How are the democrats going to "solve" this with Keith Ellison as AG?
A diversity of individuals, minority of one? How novel. #HateLovesAbortion
Soros - thru secret channels and his Open Society foundation - has used vast sums of HIS money to install pro-Crime D.A's.
that is not a conspiracy. it's a fact.
The democrat Party is corrupt and rotten from top to bottom.
I was watching videos of Mogadishu and Pretoria this morning. They both have the same shit-hole look about them that many Democrat governed cities have. Does observing this and commenting on it define me as racist?
There are few prospective immigrants from Scandinavian countries. Heck, there are few likely ones from Spain, and you already get these people anyway.
They are mostly comfortable in their comfortable countries, save for the extra driven, the extra ambitious. There is for instance the case of the Spanish astronaut.
The theory of Africa's dysfunction is that you need a certain percentage of smart people in order for a Western democracy to work, and Africa doesn't have that percentage. The load of the low IQ population can't be overcome by too small a high IQ population.
Somalia average IQ is 67, another standard deviation down from US blacks who are themselves a standard deviation down from whites. So no possibility of a working Western democracy.
Colonialism solved it for Africa for a while but that's racist.
but but but - *flashes shiny object* After the coordinated attack from Democratics in power - telling military to disobey orders - Pete Hegseth is a WAR CRIMINAL! because he blew to smithereens a loaded drug running boat - probably one of Maduro's drug running boats.
"Money was cycling back to the Democratic Party."
I believe the word you're looking for is "kickbacks".
"The only way to disentangle them, I think, is to appeal to the idealism of those of us who would love to see all human beings as individuals to be judged on their own merit."
Like Althouse, I grew up believing that "idealism" was an inherently good thing. There were "idealists", and there were corrupt, cynical bastards. I was well into my thirties before I realized that "idealism" is essentially synonymous with "massive oversimplification" or even outright "denial of the obvious". "Ideal" can be, and often is, used to mean "perfect". But the basic meaning is "existing only in the realm of ideas".
In the early part of the 29th century, a lot of serious crime was committed by Italian and Jewish immigrants who had settled in New York and other big cities. There was a lot of public condemnation of the Italians and Jews generally for these crime waves. Somehow, though, the Italians and Jews became assimilated and valuable and for the most part law-abiding members of American society. The question presented today is whether the Somali immigrants can or will follow that same path of assimilation. I am deeply suspicious of Trump’s assertions to the contrary, since he’s obviously not acting in good faith, he never is, everything is an act with him, just a show for the rubes, and the fact is that far less than 1%, less than 0.5%, of the 80,000 Somali immigrants in Minnesota have been implicated in these crimes.
*20th century.
Folks at all level of Minn Government were aware of the fraud and kept quiet. It was dangerous to gore Babe, the big Blue Dem Ox. It was easy to see no evil, etc, etc
Restaurants with seating for 35, serving 9000 meals a day and going years without a site visit? Bigger corruption than even NYC Building inspectors
2. Money was cycling back to the Democratic Party
Yes. The threat "we'll call you racist if you don't give us the money" was the cover. The actual reality was that the corrupt Tim Walz and Keith Ellison Administrations were getting paid off, and kept the fraud going so they could keep on being paid off.
Now, the podcasters clearly wish the fraud problem could be solved by Minnesota
The only way that would happen is if every Democrat official was removed from office and replaced by Republicans who want to throw all their predecessors in jail.
Unlikely
As to judging people "on their own merit", there are quite a lot of people who have no conspicuous merit. What's your plan for us, the Great Unmeritorius? To the camps? Merit is a low bar, but still a higher standard than I would want to be held to.
American Blacks I knew in the Twin Cities were critical of the Somalis, for various reasons. Did this make them "racist"?
"those Minnesota officials who were afraid of being called racist chose not to judge people based on their individual merit" Of course not. That's the point of the identity politics they've been practicing since forever. Individual merit only gets deployed as an occasional anti-Trump talking point.
Sure, fear of being called racist and recycling of fraudulent income are powerful motives for Dem officials to aid and abet crime. But the key factor is impunity: until the day before yesterday, no Dem officials had to fear any consequences for their obvious negligence. They picked Walz as VP candidate, for crying out loud, and he's running again for gov. AG Ellison did nothing, and thus far has not faced any Dem criticism. As far as I know, no major Dem has said anything critical, either of them or of the Somali fraudsters. It's a racket.
The entanglement goes beyond what Trump is exposing: unchecked mass third-world immigration is entwined with nonvetting of anti-American criminal immigrants is entwined with a corrupt immigration-industrial complex is entwined with the massive shoveling of money at fraudulent "NGO" outfits is entwined with Dem vote-buying and subsidy-recycling is entwined with Dem machine politics is entwined with MSM blind-eye narrative support.
The fraud was real and needed to be stopped sooner — absolutely.
But individual crime doesn’t become an immigration issue unless someone chooses to make it one.
Trump is choosing to make it one.
And that’s the difference between fighting fraud and racializing fraud.
"Somehow, though, the Italians and Jews became assimilated and valuable and for the most part law-abiding members of American society."
Yeah, right. Running the criminal syndicates that Americans won't run. You ever hear of Meyer Lansky? Look him up. A credit to his religion.
Here is the City Journal story that outlines the fraud and who knew:
https://www.city-journal.org/article/minnesota-welfare-fraud-somalia-al-shabaab
Douglas B. Levene said...
The question presented today is whether the Somali immigrants can or will follow that same path of assimilation. I am deeply suspicious of Trump’s assertions to the contrary, since
you're a dishonest Trump hating lunatic.
FIFY
There can be no "assimilation" so long as "multiculturalism" is the story being pushed.
1: Something close to 60% of the Somali population in the Minneapolis area is participating in the ADAH fraud. You didn't have 50%+ of the Jewish / Italian population actively engaging in mob crime pre-Prohibition. So the comparison is insulting and ignorant
2: The Italians wanted to become Americans. The Somalia REFUSE to become Americans, they remain "Somalis" even after they get US Citizenship, by their choice.
Deport them all
If you had, in the early 20th century, the choice to fill your immigration quota (these did not exist then but they do now) with Scandinavians and Germans, or with Sicilians and Eastern European Jews, who would you have chosen?
The answer is clear.
There are literal billions of people clamoring to be let in to the US, and a limited number than can be let in, for a host of practical reasons. You cant let in even a small fraction of the clamoring billions. So who do you let in?
The man who blackmailed J. Edgar Hoover. I gotta admit, that is kind of impressive.
Somali is not a race.
There, fixed it for you.
"Restaurants with seating for 35, serving 9000 meals a day and going years without a site visit?"
Really? Jeez.
Yeah we'd rather let crooks steal 1,000 million dollars then be called "racist".
The real question is why are we letting somialians into the USA. What benefit are getting from it? If you want to help Somalians, send money to Somalia.
And Walz and the Democrats are playing on this absurd love of anti-racism to bring in more D voters. And if the beloved immigrants steal money, that's OK. Just make sure some of that graft ends up in their pockets. 'kay?
"But individual crime doesn’t become an immigration issue "
Its a statistical matter, and such things should be immigration issues. Besides crime, economic achievement, educational attainment and other such statistical matters should figure into immigration policy.
I am not an expert in the subject but I don't believe that people from Somalia constitute a race any more than people who identify as Muslim do.
Ronald J. Ward said...
The fraud was real and needed to be stopped sooner — absolutely.
But individual crime doesn’t become an immigration issue unless someone chooses to make it one.
Trump is choosing to make it one.
And that’s the difference between fighting fraud and racializing fraud.
Lol we are on step 3 or 4 now?
1. There is no fraud. Immigration is good.
2. ...
3. The fraud is real but you are racist if you notice it.
I can't even figure out how you morons are processing this.
You are just a traitor importing foreign soldiers and paying them with money you take from us.
I'm still trying to understand why states get to undermine and obstruct Federal agents enforcing the immigration laws without any blowback. Isn't that against federal law? why aren't they being arrested.
Diversity of color and class. We have a problem with Nazis and Romans. And then you have the abortionists. So Pro-Choice. Nationalists are more discerning.
People who give special treatment or special preferences based on race never see themselves as racists.
But they are.
"race", in these cases, is an American rhetorical trope.
Between the fake lovers of black folks and the weird color-blind "I don't see race" fanatics, we'll never solve this problem.
This is about "race" and "ethnicity". Its about Somalia. They aren't white swedes. People aren't all the same. The magic dirt of America doesn't all turn us into Ozzie and Harriet.
This post works as a good companion to the gender medicine post because the fraud and the harm to children were permitted for similar reasons: the elite don't want to be labeled bigots and Democrat politicians were financially compensated by the gender radicals.
Ronald J. Ward said...
The fraud was real and needed to be stopped sooner — absolutely.
But individual crime doesn’t become an immigration issue unless someone chooses to make it one.
It wasn't "individual crime". Are you claiming it was because you're an ignorant and half-witted buffoon, or because you're a lying sack of shit?
Over $350 MILLION in fraudulent ADHD charges in one year. That's tens of thousands of people from the "Somali community" engaging in the fraud. If you assume $10k / kid / year (which seems high to me, that's over $800 / month), you're looking at 35,000 - 40,000 kids in the fraud. Add in their parents and more than 1/2 the total Somalia population in Twin Cities area was part of the fraud.
Yes, it's a group matter, and an immigration matter
Yes good on Ann for actually posting on this that I expected to be ignored. I’m going to ignore all of the racism complaints as they are only an attempt to cover the crime and economic issues which are FAR more important.
"Money was cycling back to the Democratic Party."
It bears mentioning that these democrats were stealing not just from the taxpayers, but from the legitimate poor that they so piously claim to care about.
Douglas B. Levene said...
The question presented today is whether the Somali immigrants can or will follow that same path of assimilation.
Democrats and Somali immigrants stole one billion dollars from US citizen taxpayers.
You are a racist if you don't let democrats import soldiers from other countries who chant "death to America."
You are double racist if you don't let democrats give them money they took from Americans.
You are triple racist if you point out Democrats and Foreign soldiers they imported are dancing in the streets burning American flags together.
You are super unforgivably racist if you point out Democrats and foreign soldiers they are importing and sharing money they took from Americans are attacking ICE officers and National Guard Soldiers together.
The Minnesota Star-Tribune ignored the story.
The Spanish astronaut
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_L%C3%B3pez-Alegr%C3%ADa
I know people who know him btw.
'“We keep taking in garbage to our country. Ilhan Omar is garbage. Her friends are garbage. These people come from hell, complain, and do nothing but bitch,” Trump said.
There does seem to be some guilt by association there. It is conceivable that Ilhan Omar has a friend who is not garbage. Just not very likely.
…and a note about magnitude. This MN event is not a one off. Illinois discovered a similar scheme a few months ago, just as large…and here’s the illustration of the magnitude- pre 2020 us budgets ran 4.5 trillion or less, spending 3.5 trillion in 2010 and a slow increase after. The ‘covid stimulus’ spending in 200 ballooned the budget to 7.7 trillion 2020 and 2021. Now one would expect that number should be covid temporary, and we did drop to 6.7 trillion in 2022 but THAT’S NOT BACK TO NORMAL. Where’s the ‘extra’ trillion and a half over trend going I ask? Guess what? We see the tip of it in MN and IL…
Just like yesterday, very late to the party, but a few observations to share.
I live in the Twin Cities. I moved here from Chicago in 1992, around the same time as the first Somalis started arriving in Minnesota. I have met and worked with Somalis throughout the last 30+ years, but I can't say I'm friends with any of them. Perhaps that's my failing, but I think for the most part it's more a matter of insularity among Somalis. My impression is that, all things considered, the Somalis I've known aren't particularly interested in being friends, even if they are outwardly friendly.
So how does that play out here? Most Somalis you interact with are pleasant and decent people. Having said that, relationships have deteriorated over time. Some young men in the Somali community have taken a familiar immigrant path and have formed street gangs that have caused problems in certain areas of Minneapolis, especially near the University of Minnesota. Carjacking has been a big issue here and a good percentage of the perps are Somali.
The Somalis are only one of a number of immigrant communities in the area. The Hmong started arriving here about 50 years ago and while they maintain their cultural traditions and tend to live in certain areas only, they have done pretty well here. There is also a fairly substantial west African population here, particularly immigrants from Liberia. That group has done very well. No one here has any concern about the west African immigrant population. The fraudulent activities are not a race issue, but those who would rather not face accountability are delighted to pretend it is.
The other thing you have to understand about these communities is why they are here. Lutheran Social Services and Catholic Charities have, over the years, sponsored most of the immigrant groups who have come to the area. These organizations, and the faith communities they purport to represent, have inordinate influence in this region. While these organizations are ostensibly non-profit, anyone who pays attention knows that professional do-gooders make bank.
Are Somalis bad people? In the main, no. Are there a significant number of bad actors in their ranks? Absolutely. Does the self-satisfied white liberal gentry class protect them? For sure. Is Walz and his administration corrupt? It's not been proven, but that's the way to bet. We'll be finding out soon enough. I have faith in the federal team that has been prosecuting these cases, but I have little faith that the bien pensant Minnesotans of southwest Minneapolis will draw the proper conclusions unless their noses are rubbed in it.
"In a horrifying testament to the utter collapse of law and order under radical left-wing policies, a vicious repeat sex offender named Abdimahat Bille Mohamed, 28, of Minneapolis, has been charged with the brutal kidnapping and repeated rape of yet another terrified woman, just months after dodging real prison time for two prior rape convictions."
Raping the women Americans won't rape.
Photo here.
If you are in charge of handing out billions (or maybe just many millions) of dollars of taxpayer money to "underserved communities" in your state, and one particular "underserved community" is receiving grossly disproportionate benefits compared to other "underserved communities," you don't have to be a racist to read the fucking tea leaves.
Also Trump specified Ilhan Omar and her "friends." Who happen to be Somalian. That doesn't make them lesser crooks.
I would say, judged individually on his merits, Abdimahat Bille Mohamed is a worthless criminal piece of shit who should be executed. Ideally, at dawn, but idealism is overrated.
Where were the Feds? Including the first Trump Administration? Massive grift and zero oversight. And it was completely fucking predictable? What did Trump *think* would happen?
There was COVID Money fraud problem that is much bigger than Minnesota or its Somali opportunists. Opportunists are going to find opportunities. The "Paycheck Protection Act" alone accounts for $ 64 Billion in fraud. Where was the oversight? You cannot blame the Somalis for this. Where is the accountability?
"Money was cycling back to the Democratic Party."
The money was doing it. On its own. With no intention by anyone that this should be happening.
It's like a lost dog finding its way home.
Democrat reporting tropes:
-- Mistakes were made
-- Undocumented immigrants came
-- Republicans reacted
-- Money was cycling
The racism charge is the most effective political weapon I have seen in my lifetime. It wins every single time. Hard to believe such a brainless rhetorical weapon has such potency but, until we see a few more people like Trump who shrug it off, it will continue to win battles without breaking a sweat.
Gee, its entangled is it?
Import poor people. Offer them benefits. Get the connected ones to donate to you, and organize the poor ones to vote for you.
Ooops, we got caught letting them rob us blind.
Boy, you're really racist to notice 60,000 Somalis could steal $1 billion dollars.
To ask the question is to answer it.
"But individual crime doesn’t become an immigration issue "
When much of the fraudulently-obtained money is funneled to a foreign terrorist group, it is an immigration issue.
I do feel bad for the Somalis who were NOT on the take. One of the fraud investigators is Somali.
There was a GOP Somali candidate who was a female helo pilot in the army.
So, let's remember those Somalis, too.
Obviously, "not all Somalis"
But a shit ton were fine claiming their kids got lunches for kick backs.
The “racist” stuff is, as always, a political smokescreen to distract from other behavior. Somalis washing money back to the Democrats is the reason this has been ignored. With Democrats it’s always about the grift.
Somalis are only 60,000 people supposedly in Minn.
But somehow they are in the news...a lot.
They did a billion in fraud, and get a lot of welfare...but they also paid like $87 million in taxes....(gee is that a good ROI?)
And some of them support Al Shabab.
Its probably not a good sign when a small minority is highlighted so much in the media.
Can the corrupt democrat party be shoved into a capsule and sling-shotted into deep space?
enough room for the entire corrupt dem party elite +Jimmy Kimmel and his insane wife, Jon Stewart, worm Carville, all the trans-men predators with beards, pedos, 20 year old male Antifa REDDIT losers, Maduro, the Castro Family, Putin, Walz, Soros Family and some Somalians?
Free our nation!
"I no longer believe in reform. Our only effective option is to deport them all, bulldoze entitlement programs, and start all over from scratch."
The above statement is from "Michael" who has no personal information whatsoever available. Such people have often been shown to be fakes and bot-people residing in Russia (Mikhel?) and Venezuela (Miguel?) and elsewhere, countries which have an interest in destroying this country and its institutions.
Because racism zenophobia islamophobia would be the outcry
Other than RJ Ward trying to make it all about Trump, the lefty trolls are missing. They’re waiting to see how the mediaswine spin Democrat corruption this time.
They celebrated the burning of minneapolix on false pretenses and that joker fry is still groveling along with the lockdowns
Fraud requires intent. The last administration was filled with the ignorant, and the frightened. Neither are of much use for things that are important, and neither can be trusted with money.
"..If the Minnesota fraud was so huge, why didn't government officials notice and take action?.."
BECAUSE, the money (some of it anyway) was going DIRECTLY into those government officials pockets. Not just to the DFL party, but DIRECTLY INTO those officials pockets
In every instance they chose the most destructive path and thet were shielded from accountabilty in 22
The Rot goes deep…
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“DC and its Swamp. Do you think it’s a coincidence all of a sudden we are hearing all of these politicians especially the Dems suddenly defaulting on their payments?
We have Jasmine Crocket unable to make a $3000 payment for her luxury condo where it shows they put a lien against her for failing to oat $3047 to the Westside Condominium Association.
We have Maxine Waters failing to pay her taxes on her residence in Cali for over $20,000.
Dems money well is drying up. Donor money is no longer pouring in. The Democrat Party is in debt.
So what changed? I’ll tell you what changed. USAID was shut down. Their money tree. They had so much money allocated to scam bullshit programs which directly went to them. They had shell companies funneling directly to them. Now? The well is dry. No more ill gotten gains flowing in for these career corrupt politicians who lived their lavish lifestyles as well as paying off those in high places for personal gain.
Trump has flushed the entire Democrat Party as well as their RINO friends from the background to the forefront. Everything we are witnessing today is a direct result of Trump with the enormous help from Elon exposing all the fraud and shutting it down.
That has left all the rats scurrying looking for a way, any way to dethrone Trump and his entire administration.
This coup we are all witnessing behind the scenes is a frantic last chance effort to take this man down.
This week’s target is Pete Hegseth. They want nothing more than remove the Trump loyalist and replace him with this scumbag Dan Driscoll all in an effort to take the military under their control and have them remove Trump forever
They threatened to imprison Tulsi Gabbard. For what? Exposing them all? No this is something different.
Much different. This is the Deep State in a coordinated manner looking to take back control. This is the corrupt leftovers and those they turned trying to organize and take over the government.
The seditious 6 videos was part of the plan. Whose fingerprints are all over this? Jake Deep State Sullivan himself. Look no further than the crew he hangs out with. We are talking the same people Trump is going after.
This is an effort to remove and restore the Deep State back into power. We are talking Obama, Hilary and the rest of the crew who have been trying to end Trump for years.
But this time it’s different. They are no longer in power. They are losing their control and yes, Trump is coming for all of them. Their desperation only means that Trump is getting close.
They either pull this coup off or they are all fucked & they know it. Their cries about the Narco boats? All a scam. They know Trump is playing by the rules so they must muster up some confusion. Distraction. They must use their rigged media to sell their 10 viewers, everything Trump is doing is illegal & inhumane
Not a word on Jazz hands Waltz and his billion dollar problem in Minnesota where he is caught red handed. Not a word about the Somalis running a criminal enterprise in Minnesota or the fact they are mostly illegals.
This isn’t about justice. It never was. This is about taking down the man who stands in their way of robbing our country blind while steering us towards Communism.
The game is getting hot and heavy. They want Trump and his administration out by January. The race is on. It will come to who gets there first
Will the Dems pull it off and succeed or is Trump holding an Ace and ready to drop the hammer on all of them. What is going on behind the scenes is a treasonous act. The seditious 6 a treasonous act.
For the Dems and RINOs to openly commit treason, you know the stakes are high. It comes down to Trump against the Deep State. Who will be left standing? Without a fucking doubt, Donald J Trump. He stands for righteousness. He stands for the people. He stands for America and there are 100 million of us willing to die on that hill with him. In God We Trust. In Trump We Persevere. My two cents.”
@Achilles: Or you could just be honest and call democrats fucking traitors.
Yes. Traitors, and criminals. Criminals engaged in a grand and well organized conspiracy. And above all, our nation's very worst enemies, working to enslave us all under a one-party socialist police state.
The explanation of why some Somali immigrants got away with gigantic levels of theft is that the Dems did not want to offend the whole Somali community by prosecuting theft done by Somalis. Is this true? It seems to me to be quite racist. Why would the whole Somali community have been offended by the government prosecuting a few Somalis for theft? Well, perhaps the Somali community is distinct from "the Somali voting bloc;" and "the Somali voting bloc" would have been "offended" by any justice, meaning by that, that "the Somali voting bloc" was rife with fraud. This the "Rotherham attitude" in action in America. There's a pretence of racial justice which simply amounts to leaving whole communities bogged down in injustice. Cold, blind, and stony, the Dems and Labour look on cherishing within themselves a warm feeling of a superior insight and goodness which, best of all, enriches them as well.
@Peachy: Soros - thru secret channels and his Open Society foundation - has used vast sums of HIS money to install pro-Crime D.A's
HIS money? I suspect if you audited every dollar as it skittered through the web of NGOs, you'd find a significant amount of it--maybe most of it--was actually stolen from your pocket and mine by Soros and his Democrat cronies and their minions in the so-called Civil Service in order to finance our own enslavement and oppression.
No matter how much you hate Soros and the Democrat party and the government-workers unions and the Pravda media that waves the pompoms for them all, it's not enough. In the entire rest of the world put together, we have no enemies who are more evil and dangerous.
Option 2 is the best answer. Any time there is massive fraud going on and the government doesn't do anything to stop it, you can safely bet that those running the government are benefitting from the fraud. That may be through campaign contributions or direct participation in the fraud.
"Why would the whole Somali community have been offended by the government prosecuting a few Somalis for theft?"
That is the way the identity crowd think.
There are around 80 thousand Somalians in Minnesota. If they contribute 67 million dollars in state and local taxes, that means they each pay on average about 800 bucks or so. To put that in perspective, the average Minnesotan pays anywhere from 8 to 10 THOUSAND in state and local taxes. Which means Somalians are contributing more than 10 times less, to say nothing about the billions of dollars in fraud
human beings as individuals
The Somalis are individuals working for the benefit of the tribe. They are doing the right thing :) They aren't to blame that Minnesotans are easy marks, that's on Minnesotans.
The temple of identity politics says what now
So can any of our leftists tell me how, precisely, to identify the Somali race and how to tell the difference between a Somali and an Ethiopian or Eritrean? Without "cultural cues" such as hat styles or hair styles, please, since anyone can put on a hat or style their hair. Since I'm accused of being racist against Somalis, I want to know what makes up the Somali race that I'm apparently being evil against?
Because if there is no "Somali race" then it's not racist for Trump to want these people out, is it.
At the time this was going on, there was an angry mob ready to burn Minneapolis down on any racial pretext, albeit with the approval of the governor's wife. This might partly explain while it was treated with kid gloves.
They weren't afraid of being called racists, Althouse- who was going to make a such a charge, the media???? No way that was ever going to happen. The reason the fraud was allowed to continue is because lots of Democrat politicians were getting paid off in one form or another. If I were investigating this fraud, I would look at the extended family members of the people most responsible for not stopping this- their family members were probably on the payroll of the fraudsters as consultants of one kind or another.
Fear of being called racist is a powerful tool. We have to learn to ignore it better yet mock it.
Vance said...
So can any of our leftists tell me how, precisely, to identify the Somali race and how to tell the difference between a Somali and an Ethiopian or Eritrean? Without "cultural cues" such as hat styles or hair styles, please, since anyone can put on a hat or style their hair. Since I'm accused of being racist against Somalis, I want to know what makes up the Somali race that I'm apparently being evil against?
Because if there is no "Somali race" then it's not racist for Trump to want these people out, is it.
12/4/25, 11:45 AM
You’re being deliberately obtuse. Everyone knows it’s the fear of white people being called racist against black people in general that drives this fraud machine. Somali or Kenyan or Zimbabwean does matter. It’s the fact that Somalis are of the black race that’s being used as a cudgel against susceptible white progressives.
The entire TPS program is racist, instead of admitting foreign people on their particular suffering we let arbitrary classes of them in based on a physical characteristic, they just lived there, rich or not. We have long left individualism out of the equation. So the immigration system is absolutely based on things like race and national origin.
A solution must be based on the same things that caused the problem. No boo hoos about not looking at each person individually when the law treats them as classes, like tps does.
..."The podcasters wish the fraud problem could be solved by Minnesota..."... because it has placed them at a serious political disadvantage. NOT because of the effects it has had on the taxpayers, on the integrity of the political system.
When one observes the behavior of a group with a unique common identity, and traces the results of that behavior and measures the impact of it, then takes action, it is not racism; it's being observant and showing agency and resolve. It is incidental that the offending group has a common race. It is not incidental that they are all Somalian.
Would the political group that dismantled Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall be called 'racist' because the offenders were Irish? Was Huey Long 'racist' because he dismantled the long-standing, highly corrupt system of political patronage in Cajun South Louisiana? Nice try. Own it, Democrats. You preside over a cesspit of corruption, allowing an infestation of criminals that have been feasting at the public trough to an outrageous extent, and the bill has come due.
You could say the Somalis eagerly adapted American culture - unfortunately, that subset of it known as urban political corruption. Just like the Irish with Curley and Daley and the Bulgers. Maybe Trump should clarify his remarks. CC, JSM
It’s hard to disentangle because the entanglement keeps it alive. It keeps the key to government coffers turning to the open position. Without entanglement, George Floyd would have been a one, two day story.
Blue on blue journalism just isn't fair!
“Money was cycling back to the Democratic party”
As does most of the funds doled out by our friendly federal bureaucracy. BTW, this is the number 1 reason.
MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell files paperwork to run for Minnesota governor ~ Minnesota Star Tribune
The MN GOP has finally found somebody who can make Scott Jensen or Royce White look good.
The Republicans have an opportunity to run to the middle and beat Walz this year. But as long as Trump has a dog like Lindell in the fight, no moderate stands a chance. Tim Walz could start embezzling tax dollars personally and he's not going to lose to a party as divided as the Republican party of Minnesota.
"If the Minnesota fraud was so huge, why didn't government officials notice and take action?"
They did notice and were told to stand down or else.
A small share of a billion dollars buys ya some very friendly government officials. If ya know what I mean.
"If the Minnesota fraud was so huge, why didn't government officials notice and take action?"
You just have to phrase the question more precisely:
If the payoff was so huge why didn't the conspirators turn themselves in?
I agree with Bushman — knowing Democrats as I do, reason #2 was actually reason #1, and by a considerable margin.
"run to the middle " "moderate"
That there is some funny shit. I don't care who you are.
The isn’t a racial problem, it’s an ethnic problem. Was la cosa nostra a race problem? What about Irish political corruption persisted into the 20th century with Sein Finn? When some stubborn ethnic group like the Somali flout our laws,should they be protected just because they have darker skin?
So leftists, riddle me this. You are accusing Trump and Republicans of being racist, somehow, against the "poor Somali" race... which apparently is just code for "Trump is racist against blacks! From Africa!"
Yet this is hard to square with Trump brokering a peace deal between the Democrat Republic of the Congo and Rwanda... a war that literally no self righteous leftist cared one whit about, and for which they give Trump zero credit. If Trump hates black people, why on earth did he go out of his way to end a war in the heart of black Africa that no one, absolutely no one, cared about -- either then or now?
To Mike Lindell:
Congrats Mike, glad your hat's in the ring.
Hope to see you in November.
Sincerely,
MN DFL
All right, I'm gonna say it; you have to give them credit for pulling off a gigantic scam like this.
Not as admirable as
"Founded in 2003 by then 19-year-old Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos raised more than US$700 million from venture capitalists and private investors, resulting in a$9 billion valuation at its peak in 2013 and 2014.
19 year old child . Not even old enough to buy alcohol.
I’m praying Lindell participates in a televised debate.
I can't wait to see the look on Lisa Demuth's face when she loses the GOP endorsement to Lindell.
The kakistophage's monomaniacal concerns for the electoral fortunes of the Minnesota Republican Party are duly noted.
They sound much like what was said about Donald Trump before he was elected.
The people who see him as lumping all people together are actually exposing their own tendency to racial generalizing--they are racist, but don't like that so they assume someone like Trump is critiquing all black people when he is specifically targeting Somalian culture.
After all the nonsense Trump has had to say about immigrants (and now he is extending to naturalized citizens, apparently including dual citizens like his wife and son), it is beyond belief that you would write something so stupid. Trump has condemned all immigrants and refugees (and gee, the only ones he actually likes are white South Africans). He has consistently implied, if not stated flat out, that immigrants are criminals, mental patients, and that immigrants are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime. None of these things are true, they don't even rise to the level of bullshit, just outright lies.
If Trump hates black people, why on earth did he go out of his way to end a war in the heart of black Africa that no one, absolutely no one, cared about -- either then or now?
Because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize. Apparently, he is going to have to settle for the FIFA Peace Prize.
why didn't government officials notice and take action?
Because their role transformed from protecting all of the public to protecting a segment of the public, to the point of becoming "facilitators and enablers."
Where have I heard that before?
2min Video dive into the Minnesota fraud.
kak bringin’ teh kak…
"Somali Americans have become politically quite powerful in the state"
It's said that there are 80,000 Somali's living in Minnesota. About a quarter of those appear to be eligible to vote.
Three and a quarter million votes were cast in MN in 2024.
Just how much power can can 20,000 votes carry?
The Conversations on Race are over. The numbers are what they are.
Vance @ 1:16, Vance, I think you’re relying on the old; “I can’t be racist — I have a Black friend” trick, “The Good Black Exception” fallacy.
What I’m seeing is simply Trump doing what Trump does best, intentionally racializing crime when he finds it politically useful. The instructed response from the right is that the left are saying; “Trump hates Black people”.
Trump doesn’t have to “hate” anyone.
He simply has to find racial tension politically profitable.
And that’s exactly what he’s doing with the Minnesota/Somali story.
I might suggest that the only way to eliminate unjust discrimination is to practice Just Discrimination.
Politicians like to get elected and re-elected. A Minnesota politico said that if you weren't friendly with, and didn't win the votes of the Somali community in Minneapolis, you didn't carry Minneapolis. And if you didn't carry Minnneapolis, you didn't win in Minnesota. So they sold their soul--and after all it wasn't their personal money that was being stolen.
Minnesota AG Keith Ellison: ""Fraud happens," we hold people responsible as individuals, not for their ethnicity"
I bet the numbers won't bear that out.
They were funding al shabaab
This is a great opportunity to look into what Rabel is mentioning above. 12/4/25, 1:45 PM 👆🏽
Don't hold your breath however, they probably wont.
We were funding the taliban and the houthis so
Rabel asked...
"..Just how much power can can 20,000 votes carry?"
That's NOT the question to ask.. The question to ask is:
Just how much MONEY can can these Somaliis provide?
Looks like THE ANSWER IS: Hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars
at that time, nobody wanted to be called a racist
Wasn’t this a lesson learned related to why nobody spoke up about Arab men learning to fly large jets but not caring about learning to land them?
Somali is not a race.
Yes, but they are Democrat affiliated "minorities". Any criticism of them is therefore racist.
Just ask Fredo and Kaki (when he isn't trying to change the subject).
Somalian is a race just like German is. Skin color and tone is worthless. Culture is more important than religion
The end result were somalis were tagged as certain other groups on the opposite end of the continent as corrupt
So Freder comes out in favor of the war between Rwanda and the Congo continuing so Trump can't get brownie points for peace.
But it's Republicans that are the racists.
Got it.
’Just how much power can can 20,000 votes carry?’
A good bit in local, state, and even congressional races.
Not a race but a culture of corruption, so says Ann's beloved NYT....
Can any of our leftists give us any good reason to have this invasion of Somalis? What benefit does letting massive amounts of them pour into our country and explicitly steal our taxpayer dollars give America?
And is there any group of people Democrats do not demand to come here? Oh wait: vietnamese and Cubans.... because they remember what Democrats did to them, and so they tend to vote Republican. Democrats HATE those immigrants, but of course that isn't racist, oh no!
Democrats are not too fond of Romanians and other Eastern Europeans either, because those people also remember life under Democrat party policies... and it's not fond memories. So Democrats do not like them either.
Not too sure about many culturally conservative pacific islanders... the Samoans, Tongans, etc. I think Democrats hate them too... all because they aren't all aboard the "As much immorality and perversity as possible" politics the left demands.
I’m sorry, that was a lesson learned from the study of Rotherham child grooming rape gangs.
This makes me wonder how much money is cycling to the Dems from Mexican cartels and Venezuelan drug traffickers.
It won’t be just Somalians getting indicted and convicted. The MN Dem party is diverse! So this is a behavioral thingy, not a skin color or even just a national origin thingy.
Trump rails against the fraud associated with the Somali community, specifically headed by Omar, but he is well aware of its tentacles into the democrat party of MN and beyond…. Remember - the Harris team was advised of this fraud before selecting Walz… MN D’s couldn’t hide all this by themselves. Also, did any banks flag SARs on any transfers within MN or to Somalia?
Yeah if walsh were any more white hed be wonder bread same with teh crazy lt governor
Is any responsible judge/jury going to accept the excuse of, “I was afraid they would call me racist, so I let them steal $1B from all of you taxpayers.”?
“ Is any responsible judge going to accept the excuse of, “I was afraid they would call me racist, so I let them steal $1B from all of you taxpayers.”?
Judge Boasberg would.
circling to, Trump and his voters are racist.
Just ask Inga, that beacon of truth.
Judge chutkin did for the awan bros
Freder said…"[Trump] has consistently implied, if not stated flat out, that … immigrants are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime. None of these things are true, they don't even rise to the level of bullshit, just outright lies."
Um…
Kak:
“MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell files paperwork to run for Minnesota governor ~ Minnesota Star Tribune”
Kak trying to change the subject again. It’s all he’s got.
and the fact is that far less than 1%, less than 0.5%, of the 80,000 Somali immigrants in Minnesota have been implicated in these crimes.
So, just how much fraud is acceptable to you, Doug?
The question on the lips of the Iron Range faithful today is 'did the Governor declare the kick backs as income on his taxes'?
’…and the fact is that far less than 1%, less than 0.5%, of the 80,000 Somali immigrants in Minnesota have been implicated in these crimes.’
Perhaps implicated so far. There were thousands of Somali families that were involved with the fake medical scams for their children; receiving kickbacks for enrolling. The final tally will be huge.
Rabel said...
It's said that there are 80,000 Somali's living in Minnesota. About a quarter of those appear to be eligible to vote.
Three and a quarter million votes were cast in MN in 2024.
Just how much power can can 20,000 votes carry?
Don't think statewide. It's all about Minneapolis. Frey won the mayoral race against Fateh by courting the Somali clan that was the main rival of Fateh's (and Omar's) clan.
Where Minnesota goes, Wisconsin follows. Wish DOJ would investigate government fraud here in Wisconsin.
"If the Minnesota fraud was so huge, why didn't government officials notice and take action?"
Cause they are corrupt!!!! Simple, no?
Tim Walz has a major complaint to share…
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1996664263327338525?s=20
I wouldn’t call Walz “retarded”. I’d call Tampon Tim a jazz-handed, ChiCom fellating moron.
D.D. Driver said...
Where were the Feds? Including the first Trump Administration? Massive grift and zero oversight. And it was completely fucking predictable? What did Trump *think* would happen?
The Feds were trying to impeach Trump and frame him for colluding with Russia up until they tried to impeach him for investigating corruption in Ukraine.
Safe to say all of the Feds that were trying to impeach Trump were in on corruption just like this.
at that time, nobody wanted to be called a racist
No, that's not what changed between the beginning of the 21st century and the past ten years. What changed is that in every institution which the left controlled, the people in charge decided there was literally nothing worse than being called a racist. In England, the people in charge had to choose between allowing the wholesale rape of tens of thousands of white English girls and being called racist, and they unanimously decided to allow the wholesale rape of tens of thousands of white English girls. Leftists in this country are no better. Given the choice between allowing young white women to be murdered on public transit, or burned alive, or shot after calling the police by the celebrated first-ever Somali American police officer in Minnesota vs being called racist - well, they're not going to get themselves called racist.
"Tim Walz has a major complaint to share…"
Calling Walz retarded endangers him, but calling Trump Hitler, well…
According to ChatGPT 8.26% of Minneapolis Somali children were “diagnosed” with autism versus 3.1% of all children nationally.
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1996611664767078783
"that really had a paralyzing effect on people in state government who knew something funny was going on, but didn't really want to stick their necks out and stop it."
Suppose everybody stopped paying taxes. Do you think the people in state government would hesitate sticking their necks out to stop it?
Yeah, me neither.
I wouldn’t call Walz “retarded”. I’d call Tampon Tim a jazz-handed, ChiCom fellating moron.
But, but ... He was a football coach!
And modern Democrats idea of a manly man.
"Just as Minnesota seemed ready to start" addressing these issues itself . . . . That there is a load of bullshit.
Calling Tim Walz a retard is unfair to retards.
Maynard said...
I wouldn’t call Walz “retarded”. I’d call Tampon Tim a jazz-handed, ChiCom fellating moron.
But, but ... He was a football coach!
And modern Democrats idea of a manly man.
He was a volunteer football coach.
His nickname on the team was Touchdown Tim.
He was so manly he shook hands with his wife.
The Feds were trying to impeach Trump and frame him for colluding with Russia up until they tried to impeach him for investigating corruption in Ukraine.
Where was Trump when $62 Billion (maybe even up to $200 Billion) was stolen from taxpayers through the "Paycheck Protection Act under his watch? You think he has no responsibility at all. None? Really? Derp.
Everyone is the same, all over the US, immigrant, or non, all the same, they are individuals. But in one city, Minneapolis, one group, Somalis, have had more than 100 people convicted of this fraud. It totals a Billion dollars. The annual budget of Minneapolis is $1.9 billion. Why so many in one smallish location? Why has this epidemic not shown up in other similar areas?
Democrats taxing Americans to fund a Somali fraud, and getting a kickback. Sure, demonize that, you anti-democratic racists!
Somalis pay 7% of their income in taxes.*
They stole at least $1 billion from the tax payers in easily detected frauds which were ignored by the Minnesota government.
It's sad to see a poor ignorant group of refugees being exploited by Racists-R-US of the USA.
*The entire Somali community in Minnesota of 80,000 made $500 million in income legally and paid $67 million in all forms of tax - income and sales. That's an income of $6250 per capita and I can't see how any Somali owed any income tax. But it is said that they did pay $67 million in taxes which is about 7% of their income.
Somali children aren't so much autistic as they are retarded,, at least by the standard definition of that, <70 IQ. Why do we want them here?
Minnesota Somalis also got a lot taxpayer money by having a huge proportion of their children diagnosed as autistic. It helped that an autism diagnosis is so believable for those 67 IQ bug-eyed, bulbheaded mutants
Homelessness, hunger, drug abuse rehab, environmental protection,delivery of medical services -- just about every compassion driven government program is an easy target for fraud. Many other govt procurement programs are probably fraudulent, too. We are transitioning to a low trust society because a smaller and smaller percentage of the population is trustworthy. Maybe govt. needs to get less involved.
Ampersand said...
Maybe govt. needs to get less involved.
Yes, good luck with that.
Char Char @5:57pm yes, another scam…
Paycheck Protection Act
It was the Paycheck Protection Program, derp.
And just how was Trump supposed to address the fraud when it was discovered long after he left office?
Dumas Derp.
Payroll tax, Wildswan. SS and Medicare withholding.
Embracing the Somalians turned into a sticky tar baby situation for those nice Minnesotans, didn't it.
Can I say that?
@Jim asked, how much fraud is acceptable to me? Thank you for asking. The answer is that I strongly favor defrauding the government and stealing from taxpayers and wish there was more of it. It burns me up to see federal prosecutors going after people who are just getting their share of the American dream. And you know what’s even better than taking money from the government? Stealing elections. I love to see elections stolen with bags of phony ballots. I hope I answered your question.
Douglas B. Levene said...
@Jim asked, how much fraud is acceptable to me? Thank you for asking. The answer is that I strongly favor defrauding the government and stealing from taxpayers and wish there was more of it. It burns me up to see federal prosecutors going after people who are just getting their share of the American dream. And you know what’s even better than taking money from the government? Stealing elections. I love to see elections stolen with bags of phony ballots. I hope I answered your question.
At least one democrat is honest.
D.D. Driver said...
The Feds were trying to impeach Trump and frame him for colluding with Russia up until they tried to impeach him for investigating corruption in Ukraine.
Where was Trump when $62 Billion (maybe even up to $200 Billion) was stolen from taxpayers through the "Paycheck Protection Act under his watch? You think he has no responsibility at all. None? Really? Derp.
You mean while he was impeached and McConnell was threatening to remove him during COVID?
Sure Trump was responsible for everything the government did while he was impeached. And while we are at it you are not a complete idiot too.
Anything else you want to tell yourself?
Diversity politics with benefits.
@Achilles, At least @Jim wasn’t stupid enough to take sarcasm seriously.
Walz attributed the scandal to "a culture of generosity."
It's easy to be generous with other people's money.
Vance, I think you’re relying on the old; “I can’t be racist — I have a Black friend” trick
This is one of the great slanders of our time.
Do you know why that became such a trope? Because if you go back a couple of generations, the black "friend" they are talking about is their caddie, or barber, or doorman. They might indeed have had cordial relations, but it was not a relationship between equals and everyone knew it. The doorman wasn't ever going to come to Christmas dinner with the family.
But that doesn't apply to genuine friendships where no one is subservient to the other, or dependent upon their favor or financial support. Racists don't invite people of other races to their Super Bowl parties, or have them as groomsmen in their weddings, or pick their kids up from school when the parents are tied up, or lend the neighbor a lawn mower when theirs is broken.
Douglas B. Levene said...
@Achilles, At least @Jim wasn’t stupid enough to take sarcasm seriously.
Your problem is it isn't sarcasm.
You support welfare fraud.
You support illegal immigration.
You support importing foreign soldiers and paying them with money you take from Americans.
You support dancing with foreign soldiers in the streets chanting death to America and burning the American flag.
You support paying foreign soldiers to attack ICE agents and American National Guard soldiers.
You support mass mail in voter fraud.
Althouse left out a couple of items:
3. The President at the time the Feeding Our Future fraud started was too busy pursuing his own fraudulent claims that the 2020 election was being/had been stolen from him.
4. A Republican-appointed Judge ordered that the payments continue despite suspicions of fraud.
Left Bank of the Charles said...
Althouse left out a couple of items:
3. The President at the time the Feeding Our Future fraud started was too busy pursuing his own fraudulent claims that the 2020 election was being/had been stolen from him.
4. A Republican-appointed Judge ordered that the payments continue despite suspicions of fraud.
Another retarded post by people who want to blame Trump for the actions of Republicans that were trying to impeach him and stab him in the back.
Calling people like Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence Republicans is just dishonest.
@LeftBank: The state court judge did not order the payments continue. That was the lie the Walz Administration put out to cover its malfeasance. The judge issued a statement correcting the record which you can read here: https://mncourts.gov/about-the-courts/newsandannouncements/feeding-our-future-v-minnesota-department-of-education-correcting-media-reports-and-statements-by-governor-tim-walz-concerning-orders-issued-by-the-court
It's wasn't fraud. It was theft. And the Democrat Party benefited from that theft. It is likely that they intended for the money to be stolen. It's all the same criminal enterprise.
@Achilles: Very droll, Barney, very droll, you’re now the Sarcasm Police, is that right? ROFLMAO.
"..If the welfare fraud in Minnesota is this bad, imagine how bad the voter fraud is.."
https://x.com/JoelWBerry/status/1996910527424163842
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