Those are Meade's crunchy snow steps. I was struggling with my iPhone which was acting like a camera with the lens cap on. I thought I could just point and shoot as if I could see what I was doing, but I couldn't.
Here's another Meade video, the western view at 7:26 a.m.
Write about whatever you want in the comments.
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१५१ टिप्पण्या:
@Meade, are those geese or ducks or loons or what? I understand that there are a lot of loons in Madison, a few of them sit feathers and swim in the lakes.
The crunchy snow steps looked treacherously icy.
Here's Tina Brown, formerly of Vanity Fair and New Yorker, on her long acquaintance with the late Tom Stoppard. I think it's a worthwhile read:
https://tinabrown.substack.com/p/why-tom-stoppard-was-the-real-thing
There were so many Canada geese refueling on the fairway out back that they almost cleared a path. Feeding in the snow!
https://scitechdaily.com/new-heart-patch-shows-stunning-healing-power-after-a-heart-attack/
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2025/12/01/oops-russia-has-a-teensy-little-rocket-problem-n4946583
More in the odds and ends department
Look more like loons
You know what Instapundit reminds me of? That guy in the induction center in the Alice's Restaurant story who was yelling "Kill! Kill! Kill!"
Read too much of that website without balancing it out, it will infect your thinking.
A lot of the guys writing there remind me too of that guy in 1984 who would repeat the propaganda from the tell-screen to make small talk with friends. Of course his kids turned him in for thought crime, anyway.
Telescreens are everywhere else
The symes are much like familiar characters here
Strategy Reveals $1.44 Billion Reserve Amid Bitcoin Selloff ~ Market Watch
'Shares slide as group warns of loss of up to $5.5bn if digital asset prices do not rebound'
So Michael Saylor's official strategy is unabashedly a literal pyramid scheme, and that is before it comes crashing down. Nice.
I thought digital currencies were supposed to be the hedge against the dollar, not the other way around. Before all is said and done, these geniuses are going to reintroduce us to fiat currency, backed by state power.
The one silver lining is that the crypto industry may have fewer financial resources in 2026 to use manipulating US elections.
Landman continues with the theme of underworld vs overworld that it explored in season one and then dropped
Syme discovered in the end no one is indespensible to big brother like zinoviev for instance
Orwell obviously recognized these types in the bbc world service which resembled the ministry of truth
See how many ridiculous things people can believe at once
Remember Emily Oster's "Let’s Declare a Pandemic Amnesty" from OCT 2022? It's making it's rounds today on X, all with a "Hell No!" or similar tagline. Might have something to do with the new news (new to some) that the vaccine really did kill more then it saved in younger age groups.
Original article link: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/
Billions upon billions of dollars may need to be refunded, what a mess Trump has made. One mess after another.
“NEW YORK, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Costco has sued the U.S. government to ensure it will receive refunds if the Supreme Court rejects President Donald Trump's bid for sweeping authority to impose tariffs.
Based in Issaquah, Washington, Costco joined dozens of companies suing to safeguard potential refunds. It is also among the largest, with $275.2 billion of revenue in its fiscal year ending August 31.k
Other companies that have sued to preserve refunds include Bumble Bee Foods, Ray-Ban eyeglass maker EssilorLuxottica, Kawasaki Motors, Revlon and Yokohama Tire, court records show.”
https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2025-12-01/costco-sues-us-to-preserve-tariff-refunds-if-trump-loses-appeal
They really have some nerve
No hard feelings over this psychotic social experiment
A rational immigration policy -
https://english.elpais.com/spain/2025-12-01/over-a-million-descendants-of-spaniards-have-applied-for-citizenship-overwhelming-consulates.html
Most are "white" citizens of Argentina, Uruguay, etc. Few of these applicants themselves (as so many are aged) are likely to move to Spain, but their children and grandchildren, who can now themselves apply for citizenship, will go a long way to help the demographic situation.
That was, btw, the Spanish "deep state" doing jiu jitsu on the Socialist Spanish government. A "deep state" is not always a bad thing.
Those aren't loons. Ducks.
If they are not loons, could they be coots?
That was supposed to be humorous, but I am not sure it worked properly.
Buwaya: "That was, btw, the Spanish "deep state" doing jiu jitsu on the Socialist Spanish government. A "deep state" is not always a bad thing"
Really? Please elaborate. Is the Spanish consular corps full of Falangist burrowers? And is this policy entirely bureaucratic, or did it require change of legislation? Etc.
Genuine questions - I am fascinated by this development. CC, JSM
I was a bit surprised today when Amazon Music gave me my most listened-to songs of 2025, with a whole month of 2025 left on the books. There weren't really any surprises. A lot of them are favorites from previous years, and a number of them were the songs that I had already dropped into my Best New and New-To-Me Music playlist for 2025. I started doing my prep for my end of year countdown on Facebook, which I have also shared here in previous years. My cutoff date is December 10th, but I'm not really actively looking for anything new at this point; I already have something like 44 songs on a playlist that I will have to whittle down to a top 15 plus 5 honorable mentions. I did a preliminary 15+5 yesterday on a spreadsheet. There are still a couple of songs lurking outside that range that may demand to be included. I played the whole playlist today and felt a pang or two about a couple of songs that may be excluded. This year is going to be tougher than the last couple, because I found so much new good stuff. I plan to start the HMs on December 11th for five days, then go into the Top 15.
Several of the usual suspects assured us that tariffs were a bad idea because everyone knows that consumers pay them, not the companies. Given this, why are Costco and the others suing?
France can't do this btw, it already pulled in its overseas pool of "white" people in the 1960s, the "pieds noirs". The "pieds noirs" included Spanish immigrants to French Africa and just about every Jew, most of which were descendants of Sephardic refugees from Isabella the Catholic. De Gaulle called them all Frenchmen by courtesy, and that was that.
A British "pool" is available, should they turn rational, in South Africa. Half those people are ex-Brits.
The Spanish "deep state", or lets say the national bureaucracy, is left over from Franco's time. Its the reason why Madrid, unique among European capitals, is a conservative (PP Partido Popular) stronghold.
The initial legislation of 2022, the "Law of Democratic Memory" or rather part of it (most of it being revenge measures against Francoist symbols), calls for the return of the descendants of Republican refugees. The non-legislative implementing regulations however let in anyone with a Spanish grandparent, very few of which were Republican refugees.
The effect is going to be extremely significant demographically.
Our judicial system is not much more than a political plaything for the left now. If they had any sense they’d be incensed…
The parent’s fridge went out yesterday. Today felt third world-ey trying to navigate a service call and upon giving up on that a replacement model. After some insane horse trading maybe a new one at the end of the week. Good thing I have skills…
Not loons.
What is actually going on in the Caribbean.
There is something different about the most recent pictures. I can't quite put my finger on it, but they look very different from the previous pictures. Maybe some sort of filter has been used to change the color of the ground? Wasn't the ground much more brownish before?
Binkov on aspects of the US/Philippine situation in a defense of Taiwan.
https://youtu.be/jmYPhSORXHM?si=M_8SbGvlcKof5HBK
Not mentioned are:
- Ongoing Philippine defense buildup including significant numbers of antiship missiles.
- Japan's contributions especially very recent deployments of long range SAMs to islands north ofTaiwan, plus likely deployments to the Philippines.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3334815/beijing-bristles-japan-weighs-missile-export-philippines
There is little in conventional US media about this extremely dangerous situation. So a hand-puppet Youtuber has a lot of the subject to himself.
Added a new channel. A guy with interesting things to say.
If we are changing ourselves, we might as well talk about it.
"Several of the usual suspects assured us that tariffs were a bad idea because everyone knows that consumers pay them, not the companies. Given this, why are Costco and the others suing?"
LOL! Don't expect them to reply to this observation.
Looks like the drug cartel dealers on the BoaT - were destroyed in one swoop. No survivors.
Another leftwing lie - hoax - fake story. fraud "sources" up in smoke.
costco - much of it comes from china.
Tim Kaine(D) - says the National Guard, a female, who was murdered by someone biden let in - was a 'stunt"
what? what is wrong with democrats? They preach hate and then their side acts on it - and he calls it a stunt? Screw him.
I'll admit to being surprised that whoever is running the "opposition" in D.C. is investing so much energy into such an obviously losing argument as trying to convince Americans that blowing up drug boats is bad.
To me the question is whether the op is really about trying to protect the Venezuelan drug- and human-trafficking because it's a major source of money for politics, or whether the hyperventilating about the drug-boat smugglers is just whatever was at hand to attack the Defense Secretary.
If they just grabbed onto whatever they could seize on--rather than being desperate to protect Venezuelan drug-runners--that means that Hegseth is in the way of something they want to do with the military.
This latter is very concerning, especially given the timing of the effort at sedition--which felt very much like laying the groundwork for a CIA-style "color revolution." It makes you wonder if the attack on the National Guardsmen was part of a plan, or if it was premature "stochastic terrorism."
I'm pondering on the notion of a human conception of the World we live in. During the Crusades, numerous powerful and wealthy European Christian nobles abandoned their homes and families and devoted themselves without stint to what they saw as the Christian cause. They presumably did this believing that their actions would somehow be beneficial, even if they were themselves killed.
We find ourselves, on this darkling plain, attempting moral action. We could simply say, that it is moral to do what profits me. Or what profits God. But could it be possible for me to suppose, now, that the best use of my life is to join an invasion of the "Holy Lands", to liberate them from the Muslim invaders? Only if there already existed such an invasion, that deserved my assistance, and merely required additional adherents. Were I to attempt such an invasion on my own, unsupported, I would simply be throwing my life away. Like the idiot in DC.
But this means that what is moral is bound up with what is possible. And also, with what other people think. One cannot sit alone, in a cave, with or without a fire, and arrive at a viable conception of morality by brute contemplation. The state of the World must necessarily enter into your calculations.
On the whole, I think it would go better with a fire.
buwaya (9:53pm):
It seems to me that the Philippines could really use some anti-ship sea drones and air drones. Having a coastline far longer than Taiwan's and far more trees is a big advantage. There must be hundreds of docks in out-of-the-way inlets on rarely-visited islands where (e.g.) 'Sea Babies' could be based with enough tree cover to be invisible to snooping satellites. If rich countries provided financing, and Ukraine provided up-to-date designs, the Philippines could surely build them themselves. It would be a very cost-effective countermeasure to Chinese aggression, I think.
Consider dogs. Dogs clearly participate in morality, at least to the extent of knowing friend from foe, and understanding that they have obligations, and feeling shame when they don't live up to those obligations. Although, an evolutionary case could be made, for the idea that they merely understand the human idea of obligation well enough to present a show of shame when they are caught out violating that conception.
But what about cats? Do cats have a concept of morality? I have been pondering the fact, that most cats exist in a society of humans. Their affections, which can be quite intense, are directed towards humans. Or again, perhaps this is merely an evolved behavior -- I purr, therefore you feed me.
But if dogs feign shame, and cats feign affection ....
It occurs to me that I maybe didn't make my point clear, with the Crusader. He lived in a time when information travelled very slowly. But he likely understood his World as well as anyone around him, and based his moral judgements on that understanding, So, if those judgements were faulty, it was because it was impossible that they not be faulty, given the limitations of his knowledge.
But are we really to conclude, that our having developed the ability to broadcast grotesque lies has somehow mitigated this limitation? We are now able to see what is moral, not only for ourselves, but for that poor, benighted knight. Here, on this ultimate pinnacle of knowledge, defined as information. The moral course becomes clear, once one has digested enough ones and zeroes. And we have done that thing. Enough is enough!
13 Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks? or wings and feathers unto the ostrich?
14 Which leaveth her eggs in the earth, and warmeth them in dust,
15 And forgetteth that the foot may crush them, or that the wild beast may break them.
16 She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not her's: her labour is in vain without fear;
17 Because God hath deprived her of wisdom, neither hath he imparted to her understanding.
The nuptial habits of dogs, that’s really something!
In a village in Bresse, in 1946…(I am precise, because given that famous evolution of the species, if it speeded up… or if there was an abrupt mutation: one never knows)…
What a curious ballet! What tension!
It’s magnificent, this movement which gives rise to a specific passion. Dramatic! What beautiful circlings! With critical movements, paroxysms and long patience, motionless manic perseverance, length beatings about the bush, convolutions, chases, preening promenades.
Oh! And that music! What variety!
All those individuals reassembling, like spermatozoids, after the most improbably and ridiculous detours.
But that music!
The tracked female; cruelly importuned; and those males, seeking, snaring,serenading.
It lasts eight day… (maybe longer: I will check when it is over.)
What maniac, those dogs… How pigheaded. What sombre brutes. What big numbskulls! Gloomy. One track. What pains in the ass!
Ridiculous, their pigheadedness. Plaintiffs. An air of hearkening to the scent. Fussings, nostrils flaring. Arching their brows, schowling sadly, comically. All strained: ears, loins, calves. Growling.Plaintive. Blind and deaf to everything but their specific determination.
(Compare this to the grace and violence of cats. To the grace also of horses.)
But it wasn’t my bitch; it was that of a neighbor, Feaux the Postman; I couldn’t study her up close, observe the lady’s parts, her odor, her smears, her discharges.
I couldn’t work out whether she had begun by being provocative or whether it simply came over her (her state to start with, her importunate attentions), whether it was only a painful surprise for her and a timid complaint, with measured retreats, submittings.
In any case, what a drama! How exhausting, exasperating, absurd life,seen in this light, must have seemed to her.
And there she is, marked forever - morally as well! But she will have her lovely little puppies…. All to herself, for a while…
Then the males will leave her in peace, and what happiness with her little ones, what frolic indeed, what plenty- despite, sometimes, a lot of overcrowding between the paws and under the belly, a lot of weariness.
Finally, we haven’t slept much, during these eight days… But it doesn’t matter: you can’t enjoy everything at once, - sleep and something like a series of nighttime performances of primitive theatre.
The moon above all that (Above the passions) seemed to me also to play a leading role.
- Francis Ponge
Prof. M. Drout said...
"I'll admit to being surprised that whoever is running the "opposition" in D.C. is investing so much energy into such an obviously losing argument as trying to convince Americans that blowing up drug boats is bad."
These are the same people who fought tooth and nail to keep gangmember, criminal, wife-beater, and illegal alien Kilmar Obrega from being deported, and rioted for months on behalf of a woman-beating, career-criminal lowlife who fought cops after stealing from a convenience store. USA senators went so far as to travel to El Salvador to be photographed giving aid and comfort to that despicable scumbag illegal, and numerous Democrat Party leaders knelt down and cried for the thug thief dirtbag who died from eating illegal drugs. Democrat Party voters fully supported and praised all this repulsive behavior, and they still do to this day. Meanwhile, they cheered and celebrated when a young husband and father who spent his life trying to engage his enemies in peaceful conversation to avert violence was murdered, and they cheered when President Trump was shot but cursed him when he forged a ceasefire that they had been clamoring for between Israel and Hamas. What can you say about Democrat Party members except that they are completely deranged and hateful, stick up for criminals, illegal aliens, drug dealers, rapists, thieves, terrorists, and murderers, and that they also call themselves The Good Guys.
I've mentioned before that Venezuelan refugees are a PITB all over Latin America- this incident is on the Peru-Chile border.
This from Instapundit.
https://apnews.com/video/migrants-trying-to-get-into-peru-from-chile-scuffle-with-police-implementing-border-controls-815ec3a7066e46d0805a429480c870d6
The Columbians mentioned may also be Venezuelans with Columbian papers. Thats also a thing.
I am scanning my old records into a cool new record app. I am amazed at how many boxes I am pulling out of old storage spaces filled with records mostly from the 70s. How did I afford them and when did I purchase them? Memory starts to come back. Flipping through the discount bins on winter days too cold and snowy to ride my bicycle . I remember one so-called clothing store on State Street in Madison that didn't last very long. There were two racks of clothes that look like they were donated by Sly and The Family Stone and a half dozen “sales clerks” that never asked if you needed any help. The table in the middle of the store had boxes filled with cutouts and used records randomly priced at a dollar or $1.99. I would be flipping through the boxes vaguely aware of other customers that would disappear into the back room. I didn’t ask, I was a record nerd on a mission. The store was later busted for their back room sales but the blues selection up front was unmatched.
I am scanning my old records into a cool new record app
And that app would be?
Just curious.
When I pull out my vinyl to play, it's all analog on Pioneer components.
I didn't buy my stuff to listen to their music.
I bought their music to listen to my stuff.
…they sure abandoned the save the planet thing in a hurry…
I wanted to hear more about those black guy grants they were going to award
I don’t want to cone out and say they were targeting college educated white women but…
Peachy said...
Looks like the drug cartel dealers on the BoaT - were destroyed in one swoop. No survivors.
Not surprising. Compare the lethality radius of a Hellfire warhead — radius, not diameter — to the length of the boat.
Jupiter, ref the Crusaders: Don't be too hard on them. We've been brainwashed by our teachers to ignore the fundamental fact of the Crusades: they were a strategic counteroffensive against a Muslim 3-pronged attack. The Moors had Iberia in the west and Sicily in the south, and the Ottomans were pushing up against the Byzantines in the east. Muslim pirates made transit of the Mediterranean risky. At a minimum, the kings and popes understood Europe was in danger of being overrun, and striking straight at the middle of the Muslim lands would draw enemy resources away from the eastern and western fronts. The lower-level nobles and knights probably just cared about scoring land and booty. The average farmer-turned-fighter maybe was talked into it with promises of indulgences, and maybe also thought he could bring back some sellable trinkets to make his family's life a bit easier.
So to describe the Crusades as some kind of mass religious hysteria, or macro-level hate crime, completely upends the reality of the situation.
I hope Buwaya will jump in with his expertise on the complexity of the Iberian situation. CC, JSM
“Peachy said...
Looks like the drug cartel dealers on the BoaT - were destroyed in one swoop. No survivors.”
No, untrue. Oh now the fools here are back to claiming the double tap never happened? The video is not out. The White House has admitted the double tap happened. Why would they do that if it never happened?
“What Has Been Released Publicly
• Partial video footage: A screengrab and short clip from the initial strike (showing the boat moments before impact) were posted by President Trump on Truth Social on September 2, 2025, and later referenced in official U.S. Southern Command uploads. These depict the boat as a “narco-terrorist” vessel but do not include the follow-up attack or any evidence of drugs/cartel ties (e.g., no visible contraband, which critics note floats and could be photographed/recovered).
• No full or unedited video of the double-tap has surfaced publicly. Reports describe it as showing survivors in distress before the second strike, but it’s currently classified and accessible only to briefed officials and congressional committees.”
Grok
Speaking of Buwaya: thanks for the explanation of the Spanish citizenship law. I was asleep by the time you sent it. Interestingly, a significant number of Brits would qualify under the grandparent clause. I wonder if a lot of them would take advantage of it so they can work hassle-free in the EU again?
Which makes me think: how many of the people in general taking advantage of the law really intend to settle in Spain, versus just using the passport to ease travel and work elsewhere? There might not be that much of a demographic change. CC, JSM
I recommend this as a quick starter on the Reconquista.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9UnQa0m8pQ
The waterfowl in question are Black ducks.
They’re very good eating, too. Not as good as Wood ducks, but still in the top five.
Many people in Latin America see Spain as a land of opportunity. Everything is relative of course. Millions of people have after all gone to some considerable trouble to file those applications, in most cases it is not trivial. The payoff will come with the consequent filing of naturalization papers for children and grandchildren, Spanish Consulates will be busy for many years.
Top five: Wood duck, Canvasback, Mallard, Black duck, Gadwall.
Coots are alleged to be good eats, as well, even though they’re bottom feeders. I just hate the little fuckers so I’ll never know… lol
Because they were working so well...
US to lower tariffs on South Korean autos to 15% effective Nov 1, Lutnick says ~ WSJ
Duck season opens Friday in Alabama, so yes, it’s that time of year. :)
Michael Fitzgerald @ 12:59, that’s quite a mouthful there and while I hear and feel your frustrations, it reeks of cultish grooming of those greavances, something quite common in the MAGA movement but not consistent with reality.
For starters, of all the 50 plus official political parties; Libertarian, Green, Constitution, American Solidarity, Legal Marijuana Now, etc. there is no Democrat Party. Regardless of Trump’s inability to speak coherently and what the Fox News barking dogs tell you, a Democrat Party does not exist.
Questions so far?
Now, a lot to unpack in that rant but I think it boils down to that “No Kings” thing where the opposition isn’t supporting the alleged crimes or criminals but rather protecting due process which I know, some here oppose. They don’t want a king defying the courts and making illegal gut decisions.
Consider this of the boat attacks and when Trump mentioned shooting looters if they robbed a store here at home- “when the looting starts the shooting starts”. It isn’t a support of runners or looters but rather setting a dangerous and lawless precedent. Imagine if you will, snipers sitting outside of Walmart legally picking off customers because they assume the TV they have must have been stolen and since a couple getting out of their car seem to be spatting, they can declare it a riot. That’s not far off from provoking Democratic cities with unneeded military or masked goons disappearing people in Gestapo fashion.
Now I’ve heard all the accusations of people cheering Kirk’s death but I haven’t actually seen the cheering. I’ve even been told that I not only cheered it but was a cause of it. Neither is true but I get how indoctrinated people can twist quotes and create whatever narrative they’ve been programmed to create.
I did however, see a rather different tone from Republicans when Paul Pelosi was beaten with a hammer and Democratic Senators were shot and murdered, just to mention a few.
I’ll leave a final thought on George Floyd (who I assume you alluded to), you seem to be justifying his death because of his past but I’d wager that officer Derek Chauvin was unaware of his past at the time of arrest. Looking back at the Walmart shopper who was shot dead, come to find out, he has the receipt in his pocket but hey, we found a rap sheet on him so all’s cool.
I don’t know if any of that is allowed to resonate but if Chauvin is as innocent as the Basket of Gulibles insist, why isn’t Trump pardoning him?
The app is called "Record Scanner". Made for iPhone and iPads but also works on the new Mac Airbooks. Identifies the Album by scanning the front cover. Lists the tracks, estimates it's value and connects to Spotify for a scratchless audio experience. Supposedly vinyl provides a better sound but my ears are no longer High Fidelity. Even makes it easy to sell on "Discogs" if you can survive the separation.
’Now I’ve heard all the accusations of people cheering Kirk’s death but I haven’t actually seen the cheering.’
Very disingenuous choice of words in ‘cheering’. Use the term ‘celebrating’ and it’ll become much clearer to you, Chuck.
A brief history of the Commie Dem strategy of helping the middle class:
- Impeach Trump
- Impeach Trump again
- Indict Trump
- Convict Trump
- Sue Trump in civil court
- Shoot Trump
- Accuse Trump of War Crimes
I feel so much better knowing theses clowns have my best interest at heart.
Mallards.
Not quite so Beast. I’ve been told multiple times on this blog of literally “cheering” Kirk’s death, even after disavowing the shooting.
I’m reasonably sure that was mainly due to think tank influencers channeling that message through the outrage machine. Once those guys point the finger, the Gulibles start barking.
But that wasn’t my main point.
I know this may come as a surprise but the target of the mass shooting at the child’s birthday party in Stockton was a rapper. Fifteen people shot.
If they had only labeled the party a “gun free” zone.
RJW: "“when the looting starts the shooting starts”. It isn’t a support of runners or looters but rather setting a dangerous and lawless precedent."
No, it is an ancient precedent - shooting fleeing felons. Changed only in 1985 with - wait for it - GARNER v Tennessee. Trump just wanted to restore norms. CC, JSM
In my initial Federal LEO training in 1996, I was confusingly taught "what's the fleeing felon rule? There is no fleeing felon rule." That's because the people teaching me, and the old agents I worked with early in my career, had come up pre-Garner. One of my mentors used to be a Florida sheriff's deputy, and recalled how they could shoot fleeing grapefruit rustlers if they were carrying felony weight of the fruit. CC, JSM
Re George Floyd - The democrats cheered looters and restrained and defunded the police in dozens of communities. There was murder, burning and looting, and destruction of small businesses and vandalism all over. They even destroyed the statue of St Junipero Serra in Golden Gate Park, trashed and burned churches ... there has been an anti Catholic campaign of arson and destruction ever since. The Archbishop of San Francisco even had to perform exorcisms to put down the demonic spirits of 2020.
The Democrats were definitely among those possessed by those demons.
There certainly was a lot of online gloating re the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
My parents moved to southwest Florida in 1973. My dad warned me to not trespass into orange groves along the road. They will shoot you, he said. Urban myth or not, no one trespassed.
Inga, you and Grok should stick to bed pans because there are multiple explanations for the second tap, including something as mundane as not leaving a hazard to navigation floating around partially submerged. As hard as you try you won't be able to tie this to Trump or even Hegseth because the operational decisions likely did not go outside the on-scene commanders. You may also note the emphasis from the press and the left is now shifting to "Trump is throwing the admiral under the bus." Try to keep up with the dem talking points!
The tiktok dancers i have labeled them thus
John Mosby is there a particular pace of the alleged thief that constitutes fleeing? I mean, 2 people leaving Walmart with a big screen and they hurry to the van as it starts to rain. Officer 1 says to officer 2; “shoot em”.
Buwaya-bout-Biden, again, I hear the accusations of Democrats but no receipts.
These protests and riots have a lot more elements than the fabrication you’ve been instructed to present. Was the Proud Boys participating or were they on stand by? Other white supremist? We know Tucker was grooming teenagers like Rittenhouse to pick up arms and travel out of state to join in. And then there was Daniel Perry who openly said on Facebook he was going down a protest and murder a BLM member- only to go to a protest and murder a BLM member- who Gov Abbot later pardoned at the request of Tucker, thus creating more of welcoming to shoot legal protestors.
But, but, those damn Democrats.
RJW: “ John Mosby is there a particular pace of the alleged thief that constitutes fleeing? ”
No. That’s the beauty of the common law. CC, JSM
Which, like all the other beautiful aspects of our civilization, your lot want to eradicate. CC, JSM
It was all over the place even kenosha had become a war zone thanks to evers and chisholm
Proud boys?
A mob of black people constituted most of the looters and vandals in most places. A gang of people said to be from SF State seem to be those who trashed Golden Gate Park. I dont see them as Proud boys material.
This was a similar case in Mission San Rafael. No Proud boys
https://www.ncronline.org/news/five-people-receive-felony-charges-related-statue-vandalism
There weren't "a lot more elements" in 2020. It was the normal left-barbarian wing of the democratic party, often receiving air support from Democrat prosecutors and politicians.
Sides with criminals and terrorists all the time
This was part of susan rosenbergs urban insurgency coordinated from the kellogg foundation
What I’d like to see … the Trump DOJ indict Obama for murder in the killing of the U.S. citizen in his missile strike overseas. Do it now!
John, I understand that you’re advocating a return to the pre-1985 “fleeing felon” rule — a doctrine the Supreme Court struck down in Tennessee v. Garner because it violated the Fourth Amendment, due process, and proportionality.
You and I clearly disagree on that, and we could beat that horse all day. But I’m trying to understand the practical side of what you’re suggesting.
Are you arguing that we should simply disregard Garner?
Or are you suggesting bypassing the Supreme Court altogether and authorizing officers — and instructing jurors — to ignore current constitutional limits on the use of deadly force?
Buwaya-bout-Biden, I hear your accusations but it’s no more than a Peachy screech- Democrats are bad, Democrats did it, Democrats are evil, end of story.
In Charlottesville we saw neo-Confederates, neo-Nazis, and KKK members.
The J6, 2021 attack crowd included members of known far-right and white supremacist groups, such as the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and individuals associated with the Groyper movement.
During the protests that followed the murder of Floyd, some white supremacists and anti-government extremists attempted to exploit the unrest to accelerate civil disorder or incite violence. A Minneapolis police investigation identified a man who was captured on video breaking windows to spark a riot as a suspected white supremacist who was trying to incite racial tension.
In June 2022, 31 members of the white nationalist group "Patriot Front" were arrested and charged with conspiracy to riot after being found with shields and other riot gear near a Pride parade in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Authorities believed they came to riot downtown.
And you completely ignored Rittenhouse and Perry.
Yes, I hear you claims but they don’t exactly come from a credible source.
Awlaki fafoed as did his son, grandpa nasir was a bad parent
Democrats have a long track record of indulging barbarians.
This goes back a very long way, but its been getting much worse. Back in 1990 I was a San Francisco Republican volunteer supporting Pete Wilson for governor, a bunch of us (in suits and ties and etc, we were so formal then) were demonstrating in front of SF City Hall (Civic Center). We were approached by a gang of thugs who started spitting at us trying to hit the women (it was a thing at the time among democrats). We were prepared, we went into formation with the women inside. Frustrated, one of them whipped out his xxxx and peed on my shoes.
It was pretty funny really. But its gone from crudity to murder.
Well we can go back to tom wolfes reporting out of oakland in 1965, in his seminal piece 'mau mauing the flak catchers
The measure of accountability of rioting groups of people can not currently be found in who gets arrested and prosecuted. We’ve witnessed many riots and terroristic activities over the past ten years that never seem to generate a series of arrests. Phone and cable news videos galore attest to this fact.
AI is not all-knowing expert - Inag. It fills in the blanks with mistakes all of the time. That said - it probably has a slightly better track record than you.
Inag lies:
"The White House has admitted the double tap happened. "
Another Inag lie.
Rittenhouse got caught up in an informal militia trying to prevent a mob setting fire to small businesses, mostly auto repair shops. Some dozens were burned. The police werent even trying to protect all this property.
No mob, no Rittenhouse.
I did the same thing on my own in 1992 during the Rodney King riots. No AR15 though, just me. There was rioting and looting in San Francisco too. I stood in front of various businesses on Market Street (one was the late beloved Staceys bookstore) along with other people making a stand against the looters. Who werent Proud boys then either.
Stupid? I dont think so. We are just bullets, ammunition to be expended for the good.
The spitting was the threat of infection with AIDS, which it pleased Democratic activists to claim to have. It was a thing at the time.
Ronald J. Ward said...
John Mosby is there a particular pace of the alleged thief that constitutes fleeing? I mean, 2 people leaving Walmart with a big screen and they hurry to the van as it starts to rain. Officer 1 says to officer 2; “shoot em”.
Wait for them to put the the TV down first in the van so they don't drop it.
Then shoot them.
Ronald J. Ward said...
During the protests that followed the murder of Floyd, some white supremacists and anti-government extremists attempted to exploit the unrest to accelerate civil disorder or incite violence. A Minneapolis police investigation identified a man who was captured on video breaking windows to spark a riot as a suspected white supremacist who was trying to incite racial tension.
Was his name Ray Epps?
Quick recap:
Former Dem AG calls for blood in the streets.
Former Dem VP sets up funds to release rioters and looters.
Dem party supports wife beaters rapists and drug runners and jihadists.
Dem party's paths to power rest with hookers scam artist attorneys and child traffickers.
The list goes on....
JHC. What is wrong with you guys?
And just to be fair:
Reps support mean tweets.
Karoline Leavitt, in a news conference yesterday, admitted there was a double tap on the boat on Sept.2nd.
“Inag lies:
"The White House has admitted the double tap happened. "
Another Inag lie.”
Piggy, I know you’re a dummy, but how hard is it to watch a news conference once in a while?
Ronald J. Ward demonstrates his multifarious ignorance in his 6:46am comment. Two idiocies just in the last sentence:
"I don’t know if any of that is allowed to resonate but if Chauvin is as innocent as the Basket of Gulibles insist, why isn’t Trump pardoning him?"
1. It's spelled 'gullible' with two Ls. He's now misspelled it the same way at least a dozen times on various threads, even after being corrected. What kind of idiot tries to make a meme out of a display of ignorance? The kind who will write of "Trump’s inability to speak coherently" without evincing a hint of irony or self-reflection.
2. As everyone else in the world knows, Trump can't pardon Chauvin because a president can only pardon federal crimes. Only the governor can pardon Chauvin. It's the same reason Trump hasn't pardoned Tina Peters in Colorado: state charges require a state pardon.
How about this, a few sentences earlier: "I’d wager that officer Derek Chauvin was unaware of his past at the time of arrest." If I thought there was any chance of collecting from a pseudonymous weasel, I'd take that wager at any odds. Anyone who followed the case at the time knows that Chauvin and Floyd knew each other: they worked at the same strip club (Chauvin moonlighting as security). If Chauvin looked a little grim while trying to save Floyd's life, it's probably because he knew the guy was an asshole.
Then there's this from RJW's 8:21am comment: "We know Tucker was grooming teenagers like Rittenhouse to pick up arms and travel out of state to join in." Rittenhouse did not "travel out of state": he had been in Kenosha all day, had worked his regular job there, and had slept in Kenosha the night before. Though his legal residence was his mother's house in Illinois ("out of state"!) ~20 miles away, he was from Kenosha, his father and all his other relatives lived there, and (to repeat) his job was there. He had as much right as anyone to be there that day. As I recall, all three of the rioters who tried to kill him, whom he shot, were from further away than his mother's house! He had more right to be in Kenosha than any of them did, not only being a local boy, but also being someone who wanted to preserve Kenosha, not destroy it.
If only Ronald J. Ward would go away and fill the vast gaps in his knowledge of just about everything before pontificating again, this would be a better site.
Dr. Weevil,
A fine rebuttal. Ronald will use his usual method of waiting for a few hours and then try to have the last word.
"Ronald will use his usual method of waiting for a few hours and then try to have the last word."
You've noticed that, too. Saw one of his posts early on (back when I read his stuff) accusing someone else of this tactic. Projection.
It's one reason I've come to believe this really is Chuck.
"If only Ronald J. Ward would go away and fill the vast gaps in his knowledge of just about everything before pontificating again, this would be a better site."
He has spent his life out running wisdom. He has won every time.
Since he was brought up, in addition to the work they've done with the Feeding Our Fraud investigation and reporting, the guys at Powerline have also kept tabs on the guy who dubbed 'Umbrella Man', the (supposed) white supremacist who instigated the George Floyd riots by breaking windows, though he was seen breaking windows the day after the riots actually started. Scott Johnson did a recap of the story in May of this year, pointing out that after five years the white supremacist, who apparently is known by name and cell phone number to the Minneapolis PD, has neither been positively identified as the Umbrella Man nor charged with any crimes.
“I know this may come as a surprise but the target of the mass shooting at the child’s birthday party in Stockton was a rapper.”
Isn’t every young Black kid a rapper?
Some good points Weevil and yes, I know Basket of Gulibles is incorrect but for whatever reason, Auto Correct insist otherwise, possibly because I capitalize it and it’s plural? I got tired of going back and just said the hell with it. It gives those feeling superior something to feel good about.
And yes, you are correct that Trump doesn’t have state pardoning powers, or to my knowledge, hasn’t declared those powers yet. I never said he did.
I do have to beg to differ on the Chauvin and Floyd relationship as that’s been rather iffy. The club owner said she couldn’t say for certain they ever actually met or interacted: they worked in different departments and there were many security staff on any given night.
A former co-worker, however — David Pinney — initially claimed that Floyd and Chauvin “knew each other” and even “bumped heads” while working the same shifts. But he later retracted that claim telling CBS News he “had confused Floyd with another co-worker. So there is no verifiable, dependable evidence that Chauvin and Floyd had a personal relationship beyond the coincidence of working the same club at the same time.
I expected pushback on Rittenhouse, not because of his relationship with people in Kenosha or what he had for breakfast but rather because he was acquitted. I accept that because that’s the way our judicial process works. My larger point was how the right wing outrage machine instilled anger and drove people to do things they normally wouldn’t, kinda like those at the peaceful tour guide.
Nothing about Perry? Ya know, I get that.
And thank you to everyone concerned of my hours at a time hiatus. Unfortunately, rather than sitting in my recliner all day constantly reloading the page to see what the “Gulibles” have to say, I waste my time with luncheons with my wife and friends. We sometimes visit, sometimes entertain. I also still enjoy poker, Spades, and Hearts. And believe it or not, there are at least a dozen other blogs out there. And usually around 7PM, a few shots of Makers sounds pretty good and I never post anything after my 2nd pour. I think Trump said something to the effect of “imagine me if I drank”.
But if my failure to expose my calendar for your review reveals something shaky, that sounds more to me about you allowing me free rent space in your head.
RJW: "Are you arguing that we should simply disregard Garner?"
Not really. I was reacting to your remark that Trump is trying to set a new precedent.
But now that you mention it: Garner is just a civil case. So as long as governments are willing to pay damages, they can go on shooting fleeing felons. To the extent that you can extrapolate Garner's holding to say such shooting is a federal civil rights violation, Trump can just tell Bondi not to prosecute any LEOs for shooting fleeing felons. Top it off with pardons on 1/19/2029. If states try to prosecute state officers for such shootings, the US can enter those cases as amici to say it's actually the cop's rights being violated. And maybe Bondi can even dangle the possibility of prosecuting the prosecutors. CC, JSM
Ronald J. Ward lies again. I quoted him accurately as saying "if Chauvin is as innocent as the Basket of Gulibles [sic] insist, why isn’t Trump pardoning him?" and now he says that he never said Trump had state pardoning powers. Is he going to claim that clearly implying that something is a fact in unambiguous language is not the same as 'saying' it? Only a contemptible pedantic weasel would claim that.
Someone whose social life is too busy to allow him to override Auto Correct or get the facts straight should maybe just post less. And he certainly shouldn't demand that others post about (e.g.) Daniel Perry. I am under no obligation to correct all his lies, or even list them: I have a social life, too. The fact is that Ronald J. Ward lies, and once that is established, there's no need to say more.
Got it, John — openly discard the rule of law and rely on political power to shield unconstitutional conduct.
That makes sense strategically.
And of course, the beauty of that approach is that once Obama beats Trump in 2028, he can adopt the same model: ignore constitutional limits, block prosecutions of federal agents, pardon anyone he wants on his way out ( or like Trump, anytime he wants) and treat civil damages as a rounding error.
It definitely creates a system based on raw political power rather than legal restraint — but if that’s the direction you want future administrations to go, I understand what you’re advocating.
Dr Weevil, not sure what you’re yammering about; “ Ronald J. Ward lies again. I quoted him accurately as saying "if Chauvin is as innocent as the Basket of Gulibles [sic] insist, why isn’t Trump pardoning him?"
Yes, without looking back, I’m pretty sure that’s an accurate quote.
“and now he says that he never said Trump had state pardoning powers. “
That too is true, I never said Trump had state pardoning powers. I ask why the Basket wasn’t demanding it. It’s not like legal realities plays a role in their logic? I mean hell, look at John Mosley’s legal perspectives. Achilles say only shoot em after they put the T V down. Those seem to be “cheered” by the Basket.
Okay, you really got me on Gulibles. I’m still struggling, or strugling, with that extra l. What exactly is your point?
And you’re correct, you have no obligation to address the pardoning of Daniel Perry who announced online of his intent to murder a protestor and then went and murdered a protestor. And as I mentioned, I understand that.
But cherry picking typos or state and federal laws while ignoring such an obvious elephant farting and emitting 50 lb turds in the room ( and I didn’t research the average weight of an elephant turd so that might be some potential ammo for you), that just indicates to me you’re far from a credible argumentative actor.
What they allowed to do in this country with the cooperation of das in ny san francisco la boston and philadelphia to state a few
Wow, I was way off. Albert Ingles (aka AI) says the average adult elephant turd is only 2 to 5 lbs. But he did say it produces about 220 lbs of dung per day.
The judge dissalowed the exculpatory evidence like the minnesota police handbook or the blood tests that determined the level of intoxication in george floyds system or the evidence of the delays in getting to the hospital
All of this was 'the fall of minneapolis' documentary
RJW: "once Obama beats Trump in 2028, he can adopt the same model: ignore constitutional limits, block prosecutions of federal agents, pardon anyone he wants on his way out ( or like Trump, anytime he wants) and treat civil damages as a rounding error."
This is what Dems do all the time. Trump would just be following The Norms (roll angelic choir audio). CC, JSM
No JM, this isn’t what Dems do all the time. It’s what Trump and his propaganda machine have groomed a cult to believe is what Dems do all the time.
For so many years they have zapped our more promising figures delay mcdonnell lewis libby
Of course the appeals prove the result
Of course the appeals prove the result
RJW: "No JM, this isn’t what Dems do all the time."
Ignore constitutional limits: everything from the Libya war to student loan forgiveness.
Block prosecutions of federal agents: B-Y-R-D (sung to the tune of YMCA), Fast/Furious
Treat civil damages as a rounding error: Well, they are. Cost of doing business. Shrinkage. Dems always realized this. It took Trump to make the Rs realize it. CC, JSM
Oh, left out "pardon everyone on his way out." I was distracted bu the noise of the Autopen still winding down from 1/19/2025. CC, JSM
And to clarify: I agree with not prosecuting Lt Byrd. Wouldn't pin a medal on him, but wouldn't want to see him punished for reacting to an unique and incredibly bizarre set of circumstances. But I also think all the other cops locked up in the Floyd era shouldn't have been locked up. CC, JSM
JM, I could fill this page with examples of how Trump’s actions make yours look like nothing burgers but if you haven’t heard by now, there’s been plenty of credible arguments of Trump’s threats to the constitution, democracy, and rule of law.
We’re even in an era where the cult (forgive the term cult but it’s so much easier to spell) that the narrative has shifted more towards of a need for a dictatorship as we’re in a time of crises.
And for many, this isn’t all that surprising because the three main ingredients are there; 1) a very charismatic and persuasive leader 2) the ability to isolate the cult from actual news, and 3) instilling a fear in them of a corrupt government and/or an outside criminal invasion.
Both the Rev Jones and Adolf Hitler had these very same skills and near very same tools used in a near very same manner.
Neither turned out well.
Lest there be any ongoing doubt, Chuck has removed it with this thread.
RJW: "this isn’t all that surprising because the three main ingredients are there; 1) a very charismatic and persuasive leader 2) the ability to isolate the cult from actual news, and 3) instilling a fear in them of a corrupt government and/or an outside criminal invasion."
Well, Autopen had 2 out of 3. Not bad. CC, JSM
I remember when the press treated obama like an emperor when the journolisg covered his tracks
And then there was lawfare for any challenger mcdonnell delay stevens (who stood in the way of obamacare) didnt what the appeals bore out , they never got their office back
JM @ 4:50 partially copied and pasted but all true;
Jim Jones – Jonestown (1970s)
Charisma: Presented himself as a prophetic, father-like savior.
Isolation: Moved followers to a compound in Guyana; controlled mail, radio, schedules, labor.
Fear: Told them the CIA and U.S. government wanted to kill them; manufactured outside threats.
A textbook case of psychological isolation leading to catastrophic obedience.
Adolf Hitler – Nazi Germany (1930s–1945)
Charisma: Projected as the divinely chosen restorer of Germany.
Isolation: Strict media control—radio, film, newspapers—Goebbels’ propaganda apparatus.
Fear: Blamed Jews, communists, and “traitors” for national decline; constant warnings of plots.
Benito Mussolini – Fascist Italy (1920s–1940s)
Charisma: Depicted as “Il Duce,” the embodiment of national strength.
Isolation: State-run press; dissenting papers shut down; rallies designed to replace real news.
Fear: Demonized socialists and communists; depicted Italy as surrounded by enemies.
Very similar psychological architecture to the Nazi case, just less industrialized.
The People’s Temple → Heaven’s Gate (Marshall Applewhite)
Charisma: Claimed to be a prophetic messenger with special cosmic knowledge.
Isolation: Members had to cut off family; lived in group homes; no outside media.
Fear: Warned of apocalyptic doom, evil earthly forces, and spiritual enemies.
Cult dynamics, but highly reminiscent of Jones in structure.
The Branch Davidians (David Koresh)
Charisma: Claimed to be the Lamb of God; intense “chosen one” persona.
Isolation: Physical compound in Waco; strict rules around interaction with outsiders.
Fear: Told members the government was coming to kill them; repeated rehearsals for apocalypse.
A compelling example because the fear of government persecution was central.
North Korea (Kim family dynasty)
This is the most extreme surviving example.
Charisma: Kim Il-sung was literally written into textbooks as a god-like figure; hereditary divinity narrative continues.
Isolation: State controls all media; no internet; no outside travel; radios fixed to official frequencies.
Fear: Constant rhetoric about American invasion, spies, and traitors; internal purges.
An entire country becomes a cult when information isolation reaches the national scale.
Mao’s Cultural Revolution (China, 1966–76)
Charisma: “The Great Helmsman,” a near-religious figure; Little Red Book worship.
Isolation: No information except party propaganda; intellectuals purged, books banned.
Fear: Encouraged citizens to report their own family; constant fear of “counter-revolutionary elements.”
This is an example where fear was turned inward rather than outward—paranoia within the society.
Scientology (Founder: L. Ron Hubbard)
Charisma: Marketed himself as a genius philosopher-scientist; portrayed as holding secret truths.
Isolation: Discouraged outside reading; members discouraged from contacting “suppressive persons” including family.
Fear: Claimed outsiders, especially psychologists and government agencies, were conspiring to destroy them.
A modern, non-governmental movement that still uses the classic triad.
Aum Shinrikyo (Japan, 1980s–1995)
Charisma: Leader Shoko Asahara claimed messianic powers.
Isolation: Members cut off from families; leaders controlled all information.
Fear: Preached global Armageddon; claimed the government was plotting against them.
This culminated in the 1995 Tokyo subway sarin attack.
The Pattern in Plain Terms
When one person or group:
Presents themselves as a uniquely gifted leader,
Limits or undermines independent information,
And convinces followers that an enemy is out to get them,
Now let’s look at the Trump cult;
Charisma: Only I can fix it. I could go on and on.
Isolation: “Fake news” became a mantra for any unfavorable coverage.
Fear: Deep state, Caravan, Illegals, criminals, they eat your pets.
"Cult" seems to be the new and improved racism slur. What a maroon.
If he were any dumber hed work at the washingto post
I dont regard the post as a valuable publication for reasons made clear before
If my social life outside of spending time with friends and relatives (no problem there) consisted of browsing websites, playing games, and drinking, I'd keep it to myself. Personally, I spend a lot of time reading actual books, discussing them with other readers (I recommend the Catherine Project), walking in national parks and other beautiful areas, going to plays at my local Shakespeare theater, and writing for publication. All of these provide far more and better mental stimulation than most websites, games, and alcoholic beverages.
RJW: Nearly all the cults you mention are leftist. Jim Jones? You're going to trigger the commenter who keeps talking about how Jones was in deep with the San Fran Dems. Dolph and Benito: Socialists. Kim and Mao: Commies.
Now let's look at the Dem cult:
Charisma: The Squad, MuhDingo, Blobama, BJ Clinton, Algore, Fetterman before his brain was rattled.
Isolation: let's deplatform everyone who disagrees with us. It's triggering! I need my safe space!
Fear: Trump is eating the gays! He's killing the trans! He hates brown people! He's gonna put the press in gulags! He's antisemitic - oh wait, so are we, right? Whatever, he's a poopyhead!
CC, JSM
By the way, attributing 'anger' to Kyle Rittenhouse demonstrates gross ignorance or dishonesty or more likely both. He kept his gun on his shoulder until someone tried to kill him, partly because he needed both hands for the fire exstinguisher he was using to put out the fires the rioters were setting. The fact that every bullet he fired hit its intended target, that no bystanders were even grazed by one, is another indication that he was not inspired by anger, but was coolly and calmly engaged in legitimate self-defense, as the jury found. Once again, RJW just makes stuff up to slander those on the other side.
He can't even admit that it was stupid to "wager that officer Derek Chauvin was unaware of [Floyd's] past at the time of arrest", since he now admits that they worked at the same place of business. Insisting that there's no absolute proof that they knew each other is, to repeat, stupid - or dishonest. So is his unwillingness to admit that we on the other side of the spectrum don't expect Trump to pardon Chauvin because we know he doesn't have the power to do so. Again, RJW argues like a damned weasel. And no, I'm not going to look up who Daniel Perry is just to answer his stupid insistence that I say something about him. Why should I? When I don't know enough about a subject to have an informed opinion, I don't opine. JRW should try that.
Weevil/RJW: I do have to jump in with a quibble regarding Chauvin. He has both state and federal convictions, and is currently serving time for both in the federal prison system. Trump could pardon him federally, but that would just launch him from the frying pan of US BOP to the fire of Keith Ellison's goons. CC, JSM
Jim Jones WAS in deep with the SF Dems.
And in election fraud.
Before my time, but I had chapter and verse from ex-Barbagelata people from my time with SF Republicans. And more Democrats playing footsie with barbarians, btw, Jim Jones sort of inaugurated the type, homeless/addict/criminal mobilization.
If you are interested in San Francisco/the SF Bay Area (a fascinating subject, to me anyway)
"Season of the Witch", David Talbot
JM @ 5:43, you’re doing exactly what I intentionally avoided: turning this into a left/right food fight instead of looking at the underlying structure.
Every example I listed – Jones, Hitler, Mao, Koresh, Scientology, North Korea – spans the entire ideological spectrum.
Left, right, religious, secular, socialist, fascist, theocratic, apocalyptic… it’s all in there.
Why?
Because the pattern I’m pointing to isn’t about ideology.
It’s about method:
A leader centered as uniquely gifted.
Isolation from outside information.
Fear of some enemy only the leader can protect you from.
Those three ingredients work in any direction.
They’re not “leftist,” “rightist,” “Democratic,” or “Republican.”
They’re human psychology, and they show up wherever people get cut off from independent facts and rallied around fear.
If we’re going to have a useful discussion, we need to look at the method rather than arguing over whose team jersey the examples wore.
That was my point, and I still think it’s worth talking about.
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Dr Weevil, you’re building narratives that you cannot prove nor do they address the actual issues. What drove Rittenhouse to pick up arms to assume some protective position? Obviously, someone convinced him his presence and arms were needed and that’s the point I’ve been driving. And he wasn’t the only player motivated to intentionally aggravate a hostile situation that I’ve argued. What you’re doing here is picking the white out of chickenshit and pretending it’s something other than chickenshit.
If you are going to continue with some known relationship of Floyd and the man that murdered him, particularly after I gave some researched data, it seems that some burden of proof would be incumbent on you rather than everyone here simply taking you for your word. And while you’re at it, explain how that helps your case rather than weakens it.
On last time, I’ve never demanded or insisted that you or anyone here respond to why an admitted and convicted BLM murderer was pardoned under pressure from the right wing media.
What I’ve pointed out is your insistence on cherry picking of what you might see as low hanging fruit while ignoring relevant facts that would crush the larger argument.
That you now say you don’t even know enough about the subject yet you aren’t going to bother with it is telling. Is there some smoking gun there you are afraid to find, something that might make you backtrack? In the medical field, there’s consistent evidence that fear of being diagnosed (or fear of what the diagnosis might mean) leads many people to delay medical care, and those delays can and do result in preventable deaths from cancer and other serious illnesses. Being afraid of the truth ultimately led to their demise, just as looking into counter arguments just might kill yours.
That parallels in the cult world as well.
Excacerbate the situation while there is ongoing widespread destruction of private property? That is what the civil authority is there to prevent. If the authorities neglect their duty as was the case in hundreds of instances in 2020, it is up to the people, self organized as best they can manage, to suppress the mobs.
A failure to protect private property vs public disorder is a self-negation of government. A government thereby temporarily or permanently unconstitutes itself. And it negates law for as long as disorder persists. Its a special case, IMHO, of "inter arma enim silent leges".
Note that Americans aren't used to this, cases wheŕe you have to wonder whether there is a government at all, but I at least have been in these situations.
Ronald J. Ward inadvertently reveals what his subconscious is telling him about the quality of his arguments: arguing with him is indeed rather like "picking the white out of chickenshit", because his arguments are in fact chickenshit.
He just can't stop lying. One simple example: Rittenhouse did not go to the riot to "aggravate" the situation but to alleviate it. He took a fire exstinguisher and bandages, and used both. He also took a gun, because he knew that the people setting fire to things and making people bleed were likely to object to his attempts to lessen the damage they were doing. But he never took it off his shoulder, much less pointed it at anyone, until someone (a convicted pedophile, as it happens) tried to kill him.
Why does RJW keep saying things that are demonstrably false? Maybe if he spent some of his spare time reading a good book he'd be better at arguing.
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