Said RFK Jr., at The Prayer Vigil for Charlie Kirk at the Kennedy Center.
Watch the entire vigil here:
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"Yesterday, my 17-year-old niece left for Europe to go to college. And while she was packing, her mother, Amaryllis, my daughter-in-law, noticed that she had put a Bible in her suitcase."
"And Amaryllis was curious about it. And she asked her, and Zoe said to her, 'I want to live like Charlie Kirk.' There are millions and millions of kids around the country who he inspired who now want to live like Charlie Kirk and that's a great thing for our country."
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Not belittling this event at all, but I can't say that I am feeling the vibe. I didn't follow Charlie Kirk and his movement. I am cognizant, however, that while Kirk may be inspiring a certain level of revealing derangement in the Progressive Left, it would also seem that there are certain levels of opportunistic political capital being harvested on the right as well. I hope that the conservatives have the decency to honor him without a certain unseemly eagerness to advance their political cred.
Flying to Europe and being like Charlie Kirk.
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
The pendulum swings back. Prepare for 20 years or so of Christianity being the cool thing for kids to do.
le Douanier said...
Flying to Europe and being like Charlie Kirk.
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
We hear you. Kirk was a racist so you believe Kirk had to be killed. We understand what you are saying. We know you want enough of us dead so that you can seize power.
Notice how this piece of shit cannot be honest about the argument that Kirk made as well.
I know people who went to the grave saying Kent State was the turning point for them. I see stuff about the resisting the unsavory nature of ‘political points’ juxtaposed to prominent Democrats who seemed to be trying to say without actually saying Kirk’s been dead almost three days and Trump’s still President- what to we have to do? I get it now…
le Douanier said...
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
Thank you le Douanier for proving the corrosive effect of DEI. Now can we get back to merit based hiring rather than “equity” based?
Ach,
I don't know why yur gettin' so fussy. This post is about a gal getting on a plane and she wants to be like Charlie Kirk. Other than Charlie Kirk worrying about black pilots, do you know any other notable Charlie Kirk airplane facts? My comment will be the most relevant comment in this thread, unless there are other Charlie Kirk/airplane quotes that I don't know about.
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
DEIsm (e.g. racism, sexism, etc) is a toxic ideological spectrum disorder that has progressed under the Democratic umbrella corporation. Critical Diversity Theory and Cecile's Scalpel inform us that strict scrutiny is necessary to discern character, merit, etc. One step forward, three steps backward. #HateLovesAbortion
Yeah. Good ol' Charlie Kirk. What a Christian. What martyr. What good corpse. I'd like a little more passion about attacking and putting of Antifa and the violent Left in jail.
I hope that comes later. After we pay our respects.
I don't know how the daughter-in-law's child gets to be a *niece.* Seems more of a step-grandchild. I'd just say grandchild but maybe it's important to him to keep track of who has actual Kennedy blood.
Amaryllis was married to someone else and had 2 children with him before she married RFK III.
Kirk was aborted because he was deemed a "burden" h/t Obama. The assassin's Choice.
So, the I the plan. Derail to racism. Boomers arguing about who loves black people more. Adios.
le Douanier said...
Ach,
I don't know why yur gettin' so fussy. This post is about a gal getting on a plane and she wants to be like Charlie Kirk. Other than Charlie Kirk worrying about black pilots, do you know any other notable Charlie Kirk airplane facts? My comment will be the most relevant comment in this thread, unless there are other Charlie Kirk/airplane quotes that I don't know about.
Not really upset.
Just noticing that you think it was OK to kill Kirk because you think he was racist.
I appreciate the honesty.
@FormerLawClerk You've abused this forum. Don't post anymore.
I figured he was gummint trying to shut you down. The next sunrise photos will be the Ring video of the feds knocking tomorrow…
Ann, I'm trying to figure that out too. All I can figure is that she was married to another Kennedy family member when the daughter was born and when she became either grass or sod widda (old E. Texas expression for defining whether the former husband is alive (grass) or dead (sod)) the married RFK III. So, a cousin (not a niece, unless it was his brother) by lineage and a step granddaughter.
"Just noticing that you think it was OK to kill Kirk because you think he was racist.
I appreciate the honesty."
I have seen that you can operate at a very high/impressive level of blog blather. FTR, I mean that as a mega compliment. Doing that is always my goal.
But, you are not doing a good job here. I feel bad about being mean to you. But, on the other hand, maybe it'd be good to teach you a lesson so that you can be better in the future. If you want to type words that are true rather than type words that are bullshit:
When did I say that I think it was OK to kill Kirk because I think he was racist?
You have two options. 1) admit I never said that, or 2) be a POS.
https://youtu.be/66RveI2AAX4
How is it Not a Civil War?
GRW3, would it kill you to call her "Althouse," not Ann? Look at the masthead if you need a reminder. This is the Althouse blog, if you think you are in a correspondence situation w/ the gal at the helm....go w/ Althouse.
Plus she's specifically stated that that is how she wants to be referenced, because so many commenters here can't figure it out on their own.
Sheesh.
In Spanish/Hispanic custom, it is common to call a close non-relative an "Uncle" or an "Aunt" (Tito and Tita). Friends of the parents, etc. It seems quite natural to me, but I come from that culture. Hence a "neice", for social purposes, seems natural, to claim a reciprocal relationship on the part of her "Tito". Maybe RFK has absorbed some of that.
Dang! This incestuous family has been messing too much with our minds!
There's another good Spanish word - "pesado".
Its got a literal meaning and a social meaning. And for that there isnt really a good English translation.
Some of you guys are being pesados - annoying, socially inept, insisting on points the conversation has long since flowed past.
"In Spanish/Hispanic custom, it is common to call a close non-relative an "Uncle" or an "Aunt" (Tito and Tita)."
What is the Spanish/Hispanic custom re using a chainsaw to cut off the head of a whale, and then tie the head to the roof of your car such that during a five hour journey the whale's fluids end up reaching your actual children, never mind complicated familial relationship trees?
@buwaya, the custom of calling older family friends 'Uncle' or 'Auntie' is common in the Caribbean as well.
Ann Althouse said...
"I don't know how the daughter-in-law's child gets to be a *niece.*"
There are several people in my extended family and even non-relatives who call me "Uncle Biff". While I normally wouldn't refer to them as nieces or nephews, I can imagine scenarios where it would feel completely natural to do so.
As @buwaya suggested, maybe it comes more easily to some cultures than others. I can see it happening with my own extended Italian-American side of the family. I wouldn't be surprised if Irish-Americans may do it, too. Maybe loosely a Catholic thing?
le Douanier, you are beginning to define the concept of "pesado". The English language should steal the word (as it likes to do), to apply to such as yourself.
buwaya said...
“In Spanish/Hispanic custom, it is common to call a close non-relative an "Uncle" or an "Aunt" (Tito and Tita). Friends of the parents, etc. It seems quite natural to me, but I come from that culture.”
I suspect it is more of an overall Catholic thing. When the first of my high school/college friends - with German and Irish ancestry predominating - started having kids, we had the same pattern - until the kids starting having their own autonomy as teenagers and the title was dropped.
Biff,
That's quite an explanation. And you could be completely right. IDK.
OTOH, if you go hardcore bayesian, would you consider some nonzero percentage that Kennedy is a bullshitter such that we may not want to assume he's a good person doing good person things?
I'm just asking questions. Maybe you think there is a zero percent chance that we should doubt stuff that Kennedy says. Maybe you have one percent doubt. Maybe five. Ten? Fifty?
FTR, for me I Kennedy's words at zero percent believability. I also put every human at that level. Then I look to see what backs up or discredits what they say. How about you?
In my mother’s large - mostly German with some lesser amount of French and Spanish ancestry - family, anyone in a group “down” a generation or more is loosely referred to as nieces/nephews - as long as one’s direct progeny are not included in the group. Then the group as a whole is referred to as kids/grandkids. If a more precise explanation of the relationship is needed, it can be provided, of course.
Buwaya, while I like the word pesado I don't see any reason to replace the perfectly apt description of douchebag in this particular case.
le Douanier said...
“FTR, for me I Kennedy's words at zero percent believability. I also put every human at that level.”
I partially agree; you are completely not credible in my book.
"I partially agree; you are completely not credible in my book."
Yikes!
Sorry to belittle you, but you should have stated that you completely agree with me when I stated that nobody should be believed until you can test the correctness of their statements.
Instead you said that you disregard me completely, but you refuse to rigorously evaluate others.
I'm sure you thought you were doing some sort of accomplishment by stating that you are opposed to looking for validation in all situations, beyond your (w/ no evidence) declaring that I am not credible.
It is SAD! that you have nothing but empty words. You can point to exactly zero statements I've made that are not supported by reality. Unlike you, I don't make hyped up declarations. I bring receipts for what I type.
There was a time on this blog where every commenter was as careful as I am. None of this sloppy tossing out false accusations that is all over these threads now.
Rehajm: "I know people who went to the grave saying Kent State was the turning point for them. "
Intentional pun?
Either way, "one dead in U-u-tah" is going to be a major life event for millions of righties. Including new righties. CC, JSM
What if you knew him and found him dead on the ground? How can you run when you know? CC, JSM
You found best friends suddenly reading the Bible in the 50s, after Billy Graham. It didn't stick, I don't think. There was less soap opera supporting it in any case.
I hope that the conservatives have the decency to honor him without a certain unseemly eagerness to advance their political cred.
What I'm seeing from my religious friends - who don't inhabit political blogs, but do pay attention to what's going on - are tight jaws. Firm determination. I don't know where it will lead, but these are nice, God-fearing people who are pissed off.
I also didn't know how much of a reach Kirk had with the youth movement, but several of my friends mentioned their kids belonged to a local chapter at their schools. And those kids aren't particularly happy with what happened, either. To say the least.
I'm not religious per se (agnostic, at best) but I am political. I used to work in it (non-campaign). The vibe I'm getting is those religious people are about to get a lot more political.
Also, it cannot be understated at how shocked some people are at the reaction of the left over his murder.
I mean, they're blown away by people they've known for years. Friends, co-workers, distant family members who are making no secret of their joy at Kirk's death. It's been an awakening for a lot of them.
That will not be forgotten.
Things involving religion tend to go in cycles in the USA. We've had a couple of Great Awakenings in the 18th and 19th centuries. In the early and mid 1960s (before the Boomers got all het up about the Viet Nam war) Campus Crusade for Christ was a big thing on college campuses. On my campus the Campus Crusade for Christ guy looked and talked a lot like Charlie Kirk. He had the same youthful enthusiasm for "spreading the word". It wouldn't surprise me if a young person who'd come in contact with Kirk started to read the Bible
Charlie Kirk's death was an enormous event affecting all kinds of people. Materialistic political types just see how elections are going to be affected and very pure virginal people think that if poltical calculations are made this proves that nothing but politics + hyprocrisy is going on. But upstream from politics in culture and religion something has happened in people's lives. People who have been hiding their beliefs to keep their jobs or to get their degree have suddenly found out that that's what most people are doing. They're straightening up and taking deep breaths. They're feeling their hatred for HR and DEI and administration of every kind. They're wondering how to live. And Charlie Kirk had somethng to say about that, too. Read the Bible. Think about loving someone and building a family, a community, a country. If not that, what?
You think a huge change can't happen overnight and be real? Poland was transformed when John Paul visited simply because everyone found out that everyone hated the Communists and because John Paul proposed another way of living. (Read his book, Be Not Afraid if you are too much of a materialist or atheist to read the Bible. He had a message for those who have a conscience but who were raised under atheism.) Everything afterward in Poland was different because millions were different and it is very possible this is a similar event.
le Douanier said...
"Just noticing that you think it was OK to kill Kirk because you think he was racist.
I appreciate the honesty."
I have seen that you can operate at a very high/impressive level of blog blather. FTR, I mean that as a mega compliment. Doing that is always my goal.
But, you are not doing a good job here. I feel bad about being mean to you. But, on the other hand, maybe it'd be good to teach you a lesson so that you can be better in the future. If you want to type words that are true rather than type words that are bullshit:
When did I say that I think it was OK to kill Kirk because I think he was racist?
You have two options. 1) admit I never said that, or 2) be a POS.
Your problem is you don't have to say it anymore. Your actions are more important than your words.
WE don't care if you think we are POS. You have been calling us racist, fascist, authoritarian, threats to democracy, baby killers and whatever else for so long that we just don't care what you think.
Charlie Kirk was a good man who tried to talk to you people.
You shot him.
But even worse is that you are all still dancing on his grave and you still throw out your bad faith racism bullshit.
Really nobody cares how you people feel anymore.
Amaryllis was married to someone else and had 2 children with him before she married RFK III.
Thanks, I was confused. So RFK III put her in the cellar for a couple of months and had more children?
It was maybe thirty years ago I read that the super rich had turned away from cocaine and now they're into religion. Mostly mainline Protestant denominations, if I recall correctly.
Read it in a magazine.
That's what magazines are for. Used to be, anyway.
They have girls flying airliners these days. How hard could it be?
You shot him.
Unless you are talking to the killer, can we stop with the blood libel. Someone may be disinterested in someone’s death or happy enough to see them eliminated. It doesn’t make them the shooter.
They have girls flying airliners these days. How hard could it be?
…at least as hard as a hard landing in Toronto…
"You shot him"
It’s ironic that the ‘diverse range of views’ which is now lacking in exposure are those views once considered most founded in common sense, logic and reason.
Shows just how far the pendulum appears to have swung.
The entire construct of ‘left’ and ‘right’ is polarizing by design, and creates tribalism.
We should develop a self awareness to move away from such labels that cause these psychological triggers, and inhibit rational thinking. We need an idea meritocracy.
Violence is lazy. Reasoned debate is hard. However, it is the latter which keeps us out of the caves.
Let’s keep it that way.
I've known a number of people who use the terms uncle, aunt, niece, nephew or cousin very loosely for someone who is distantly related or even unrelated but very close to the family.
" 'I want to live like Charlie Kirk.' "
Sample size = 1
"There are millions and millions of kids around the country who he inspired ... "
When pelosi was attacked did anyone from the left fan the flames and call for civil war? All I remember was attacks on the victim.
When Mellisa Hortman was assassinated, who on the left called for a civil war?
When it comes to double standards you guys get the gold silver and bronze medals
"The English language should steal the word (as it likes to do)"
English has a well deserved reputation for following other languages down dark alleys, knocking them unconscious, and searching their pockets for spare words.
Well Jim, when Paul Pelosi was attacked, the initial evidence suggested a lovers quarrel or at least a constituent. Alas, the right treated the attack about the same as the left did with Rand Paul, except saying Paul Pelosi deserved it.
When Melissa Hortman was killed, the initial thought was she was killed for casting a vote against providing healthcare for illegal aliens. After all, death threats were made because of that vote. As it is, the captured assassin claims in his confession that Walz asked him to do it. People on the right think the killer should get the death penalty.
However, if you want to know who brought up a civil war, you need look no further than Joe Biden’s claiming the US was in an uncivil war during his “Battle for the Soul of a Nation” speech given in front of Independence Hall with a very dark red and black motif.
Leland - thanks for not answering my questions. Can’t think of anyone I guess
I don't know how the daughter-in-law's child gets to be a *niece.*
She was grandchild, but RFK demoted her on the spot for dabbling in protestant-ism.
From ChatGPT:
Question:
it seems to me that when Kirk was assassinated a lot of people on the right called for a civil war, But when Hortman was assassinated, there was not a similar call from the left. Is that fair?
ChatGPT said:
That’s a good question—there does seem to be a difference in how people have reacted publicly in the two cases, but whether it's “fair” depends on what standards or expectations you’re using. I’ll lay out what the evidence shows and then some of the things that might help explain the difference.
What the evidence shows
The case of Charlie Kirk
After Kirk was assassinated, many far-right commentators and online figures quickly framed his death as part of a political war, called for retaliation, retribution, or used “civil war” rhetoric.
Politicians like Rep. Derrick Van Orden made statements blaming Democrats, saying “the left and their policies are leading America into a civil war.”
Many public figures, especially on the right or far right, used strong, incendiary rhetoric.
The case of Melissa Hortman
Hortman (a Democrat speaker in Minnesota) and her husband were assassinated in June 2025. It has been broadly described as a “politically motivated assassination.”
In the aftermath, there was widespread shock, condemnation, calls for unity, grief.
There were statements and social media posts with misinformation or blame, particularly from some right-wing sources, that claimed the accused was left-wing, or that somehow tied this event to political opponents.
Is there a similar “civil war”-call from the left, equivalent to what we saw after Kirk?
From what I found:
I did not locate strong evidence of widespread “civil war”‐style rhetoric from the left in response to Hortman’s assassination.
Most published reactions seem to have focused on condemnation of political violence, calls for justice, investigations, solidarity, grief.
So yes: it does appear that in the two cases, the tenor of public reaction has differed.
Conclusion
So, to your question: yes, it is fair as a descriptive statement to say that when Kirk was assassinated, there were more calls (especially from the right) for civil war or violent retaliation, than there appear to have been from the left in response to Hortman’s killing.
Good
So, to your question: yes, it is fair as a descriptive statement to say that when Kirk was assassinated, there were more calls (especially from the right) for civil war or violent retaliation, than there appear to have been from the left in response to Hortman’s killing.
Jimnumbers wants you to know it was OK to assassinate Charlie Kirk.
He made up some reasons. He is very proud of them.
The only time that Paul Pelosi's name comes up is in the context of his wife's insider trading behavior as a member of Congress, as someone setting the laws and regulations that govern the companies she's trading in. He is not a political figure, he's a crony. They've made millions doing it - as have many Republicans, I might add.
I notice that when a troll uses A.I. to justify their extremist positions, it would seem that they're either too lazy to think it up themselves and type it in, or maybe the Borg that delivers their thinking hasn't sent them their email yet, and they're stuck, if they want to make their nut.
One might point out that A.I. is notorious for spreading false information and prone to the complete fabrication of 'facts' on a regular basis, and is eminently untrustworthy. Isn't it interesting that it makes a perfect product for such people? They almost seem to prefer having their comments crafted by machine, to relieve them of the burden of fabricating their facts all by themselves. I wonder if they think it absolves them of the responsibility of printing falsehoods, as if someone else did it.
@Skeptical Voter regarding historical religious Great Awakenings.
Yes, indeed. The USA started off with a high percentage of rabidly anti-Catholic, anti-Monarchy protestants. We were thought of as backward fundamentalist provincials by the Europeans who didn't emigrate until quite recently (e.g., 1970s to 1990s).
Both Woke and TPUSA arose in the religious vacuum of the last few decades. Carrying a Christian Bible was routine and not worthy of comment in the recent past. A new Great Awakening is well underway.
I realized how far the post-WW2 secular, Hollywood, and urban culture had drifted from the USA's history upon reading shocked and stunned reviews of "Jesus Camp" (2006). The true believer protestant culture was the norm before Vietnam and before the playboys and Boomers grew up on TV.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Camp
Achilles. - are you capable of opening your mouth without lying? When did I say it was ok. I don’t think I’ve ever read comments someone who cares less about the truth than you.
Le Douche - you are a liar
All of the quotes you leftist liars attribute to Charlie Kirk - are lies.
Stay away from guns - you Reddit loser.
jim5301 said...
When pelosi was attacked did anyone from the left fan the flames and call for civil war? All I remember was attacks on the victim.
When Mellisa Hortman was assassinated, who on the left called for a civil war?
When it comes to double standards you guys get the gold silver and bronze medals
Almost every single person on the right wants Boelter executed. Some of us want it to be public and taught to 6th graders. Some believe in incarceration but only a very few. The crazy person that attacked Pelosi in a domestic dispute deserves to be in jail or a mental institution for a long time.
Pelosi and Hortman weren't attacked or killed by people that hated their speech or political positions. You just make it up so you can justify killing us.
Kirk was killed by someone that hated Kirk and everyone associated with Trump and mainstream political views. Nobody danced in the street or celebrated Hortman's death.
The difference is obvious to any decent sentient person.
We see you lying about the attacks and we see you justifying Kirk's murder. We see you continue to misquote Kirk and to lie about his positions.
We understand you. We hear what you are saying. We know you want us dead or silent.
le Douanier said...
Flying to Europe and being like Charlie Kirk.
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
Why did he say that, and what does it have to do with any other Charlie Kirk airplane facts?
Jimmy Numbers, your AI-fueled whataboutism is lame. Charlie Kirk was a nationally known conservative engaged in high-profile events across the country for over a decade, and a regular recipient of vile threats and abuse from your fellow Democrats. The SPLC included Turning Point USA on a hate map several years ago, as an example. I doubt if more than a fraction of the population could have picked Paul Pelosi out of a lineup at the time of his attack, and I feel confident that Hortman was virtually unknown outside Minnesota before her murder. There was no reason to believe their actions would have caused particular anger among conservatives and in Hortman's case she had just entered a vote that would have been particularly enraging to her fellow Democrats. While there was a lot of speculation and bad jokes about the Pelosi situation I certainly don't recall a similar level of vile "he deserved it" celebration, and there was none of that after the Hortman murder. The cold-blooded murder of a man who did little more than talk to people who disagreed with him is in no way comparable to the random attacks you are focusing on just because they happen to be Democrats.
“The pendulum swings back. Prepare for 20 years or so of Christianity being the cool thing for kids to do”
I think that we are seeing that already. Millions saw, with the worldwide reaction to his death, that Charlie was the mainstream, and the leftists were the “extremists”, and that traditional religion had much better answers than the leftists, calling them “extremists” did for their lives, in these turbulent times.
Of course Hortman’s attack was politically motivated. Everyone who has spend 5 minutes looking into it knows that but you. What’s especially sad about you is that you believe your own lies. Wishing doesn’t make it so
jim5301 said...
Achilles. - are you capable of opening your mouth without lying? When did I say it was ok. I don’t think I’ve ever read comments someone who cares less about the truth than you.
Every time you misquote someone like Kirk in order to call him a fascist, racist, or any other epithet your goal is to dehumanize them.
Every time You use lies to call someone a fascist or authoritarian or racist or a threat to democracy your end goal is to convince some crazy person to take care of your problem.
There is a constant flow of assassination attempts and violence from the left.
None of you actually post Kirk's quotes. You never actually engaged with him because he crushed you. He was one of the nicest people in the world.
And you shot him.
Your pattern is clear. You don't get to pretend anymore. We don't care if you think we are dishonest or mean. You are still trying to come up with reasons why it was OK to kill Kirk.
jim5301 said...
Of course Hortman’s attack was politically motivated. Everyone who has spend 5 minutes looking into it knows that but you. What’s especially sad about you is that you believe your own lies. Wishing doesn’t make it so
Boelter said Tim Waltz ordered him to do it. Boelter was also appointed to positions by Waltz and had a long political association with him.
If it was a political attack as you say the Tim Waltz has blood on his hands.
Hey Skipper said...
le Douanier said...
Flying to Europe and being like Charlie Kirk.
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
Le Don wants to paint Kirk as a racist. He wants crazy people to think it would be a good idea to kill Kirk because he is a racist. He wants everyone to know that Kirk was a racist and should have been murdered.
Getting back to the subject of the post:
Classical Latin uses the same words for 'nephew, niece' and 'grandson, granddaughter'. The masculine word is nepos, from which we get 'nepotism'. The idea seems to be that hiring your sons is perfectly natural - a lot of businesses used to be called 'John Smith and Sons' - but hiring your nephews and grandsons is going too far.
Achilles- I have never quoted or misquoted Kirk. More lies from the king 👑
"Charlie Kirk was a good man who tried to talk to you people.
You shot him."
It's not blood libel if it's true. From now on I'm going to have to ask you guys if you're going to kill me if the conversation doesn't go in the direction you don't like.
Achilles: Le Don wants to paint Kirk as a racist. He wants crazy people to think it would be a good idea to kill Kirk because he is a racist. He wants everyone to know that Kirk was a racist and should have been murdered.
Over the past several days I have been in a back-and-forth with one of my wife's cousins who posted items on Facebook using this quote, among others, to show how racist Kirk was.
This cousin, by the way, precisely fits into White Female Liberal. (Side question: why is it so many of the people celebrating Kirk's murder are women?)
It will come as no surprise to you that she had reacted to the quote, without having ever fussed herself as to why Kirk said it. She — and the woman who posted the meme containing ten other seemingly damning quotes, and I will bet every person celebrating his death — never engaged with the argument he was making, which had absolutely nothing to do with race, per se.
Which is why I asked Le D what reason he had for posting that quote. Maybe Le D took that quote as dispositive, which reflects ignorance rather than malice, or knows better, and maliciously chose to imply racism regardless.
Amaryllis? Was she born in River City?
jim5301 said...
Achilles- I have never quoted or misquoted Kirk. More lies from the king
Says the person who tried to pretend Horton was shot by a conservative.
You are going to try to skirt the edges and pretend. That won’t work anymore. Kirk engaged with you and put in the effort to have discussions.
You shot him.
You are not here in good faith and you are not a person we want around anymore. You are dishonest and vicious and you want us dead or silent. You can’t even say we are good people or anything positive about Kirk.
It is now time for us to treat you like you treat us. Enjoy.
That naming may not have any traditions behind it. It could have been something worked out by the family. Zoe wouldn't call stepdad Bobby III her dad. What to call step-granddad Bobby Jr.? Uncle, maybe? So he becomes her uncle and she becomes his niece?
I'd tell Trump to watch out for CIA woman Amaryllis. She maybe the Deep State trojan horse in his administration. She is certainly well-connected enough.
Wanna conspiracy theory? Every Wes Anderson movie ends up in the Criterion Collection. Amaryllis's stepfather produces Anderson's films and owns the Criterion Collection. That is to say he doesn't just own a set of DVDs. He owns the whole company.
Lazarus: "That is to say he doesn't just own a set of DVDs. He owns the whole company."
He should do commercials for it a la Remington and Hair Club for Men:
I liked Rushmore so much, I bought Criterion!
I'm not just the owner, I'm also a client.
CC, JSM
btw it was the battle of the boyne, not wolfe tone,
le Poindexter said...
"Sorry to belittle you, but you should have stated that you completely agree with me…”
I should have? Should?
“Instead you said that you disregard me completely, but you refuse to rigorously evaluate others.”
I said no such thing. I said I found you not credible; something you continue to prove post by post. Tekel, Belshazzar. Did it ever occur to you that someone can evaluate something and come to a different conclusion?
[A bunch of words omitted as they are based on the previous false assumption.]
You take a lot of words to say very little.
“You can point to exactly zero statements I've made that are not supported by reality.
I believe I just did.
“There was a time on this blog where every commenter was as careful as I am. None of this sloppy tossing out false accusations that is all over these threads now.”
To quote James T Kirk, “I’m laughing at the superior intellect.”
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