Sorry he’s gone. I appreciated Newman but never got Redford’s acting or his personal anything…politics. I guess because he always delivers the line the exact same way. He was pretty and I guess that’s somewhere between enough and everything…
"In a way, he was like the country he lived in. Everything came too easily to him. But at least he knew it. About once a month, he worried that he was a fraud ..."
The one character that he perfectly personified...
Sorry to see him go, but almost 90. That's a good long life. IRC, Redford loved the outdoors and took care of himself.
Last movie I saw of his was "All is lost" which was pretty good. Probably favorite was "the natural" or "the sting". Great Waldo Pepper has a fine Redford performance and a fine story but Goldman fucked up the screenplay and ruined the movie.
His role in Jeremiah Johnson had a significant impact on my young life. His role in Out Of Africa was equally influential for me. One of the greatest American actors of all time.
He was too pretty, but his acting wasn't near as good as other stars. Jeremiah Johnson was his best I thought, but 3 Days of the Condor was good action and The Natural was, well, a baseball hero movie so it gets automatic endorsement already. The Sting was fun but Newman out-acted him by a mile. I didn't think much of Butch Cassidy, too much New Hollywood.
He was a landmark figure. It was not by accident that he was in so many memorable movies. Okay, he wasn't such a great actor, but he was great at being Robert Redford. He was a movie star like John Wayne or Clark Gable. That's a quantum leap over acting.......He was reliably liberal in all his opinions, but so what.
I enjoyed most of his work. We have a photograph of my late mother (a big fan) and Redford standing together up at the Sundance ski resort… mom with a big smile and Redford with a “just kill me now” look on his puss.
He was a good actor, not great, but good. And he was in a lot of good movies, although none stand out as a classic. Interesting career, but I suspect in 50 years few will know his name.
What's the movie where he plays a lawyer defending, I think, Daryl Hannah? In opening remarks he tells the jury that everybody, including himself, thinks she's guilty. BUT, all that has to be set aside to make the prosecution prove it. Really interesting performance there.
I always liked Robert Redford but I felt sorry for him because he was so often cast as a naive guy just finding out about some corrupt situation and overwhelmed by his knowledge. Starting with Three Days of the Condor, he perfected a look for that role - wide-eyed with his mouth hanging slightly open. Matt Damon carried it on in The Bourne Identity. It's everywhere now and it is true to life as a visual of a time of transition in someone's life. But the only thing is that in the movies so often the transition never ends. The eyes don't narrow and the jaw snap shut and Dirty Harry doesn't emerge.
So often, the bewildered innocent stays bewildered and innocent even when he figures out what is going on or, rather, he doesn't become someone who now knows how to act in the situation. He just dumps his acquired knowledge that such situations exist and remains someone who is unaware of the mean streets of his own society. He "had the experience but missed the meaning." Three days of the Condor conspiracy didn't mark that handsome, appealing face and, as a movie-goer, I was always just as glad but as a person I sometimes wondered what that kind of movie meant.
@ Stan Smith - not everything came easily to him. His father was high up in Chevron and Bob got a job at the El Segundo refinery. He was no good and was fired. But the people who fired him were worried about offending his old man and made a call to someone they knew in Hollywood. Off he went
“Asshole helped domestic terrorist killers go underground in the Seventies. Good riddance.” What evidence do you have that Asshole helped terrorists in the 70s?
Always thought he was perfectly cast in the Twilight Zone. My teenage grandsons loved Jeremiah Johnson. A solid actor who was not afraid to be surrounded by great actors. All the President's Men is the best example. As a director, A River Runs Through it was a great period piece of the Mountain West. Without the Sundance Film Festival, we might not have ever seen films like Reservoir Dogs.
rehajm said, "Out of Africa was good- didn’t age well but still"
If you're talking about changes to cultural context, maybe. But it's a unique love story set against a backdrop of Europe's pinnacle in colonial dominance (as in it was all downhill from there...).
I especially enjoyed the quote "I can mate for life like the animals do...one day at time." Try finding that in another romance flick.
Went to Van Nuys High School with my mom. She told me he always wore a black leather jacket and did not have great skin as a teen.
Some one told me Redford was 5-10. I thought he was 6-2.
He walked past me out of a restaurant in Park City in...1995? I'm 5'10" and he was shorter than me. And wearing a beret. His dinner companion that evening was Dianne Wiest.
I think maybe Downhill Racer is my favorite of his performances.
The first time I saw Robert Redford it was in Butch Cassidy, double billed with the Prime of Miss Jean Brodie. For a long time those were my favorite 2 movies. Good actor. Good guy. RIP
The last thing I saw him in was a cameo in Dark Winds earlier this year. I didn't recognize him at first and I thought, at the time, that he didn't look well.
Howard said... Always thought he was perfectly cast in the Twilight Zone.
I think that's my favorite of his roles. Wonderful little story.
Liked his other stuff, but my fave will probably (apart from Twilight Zone) be Alexander Pierce in the Marvel movies. I think it's kind of funny that of all the great movies he's been in, the only character he agreed to play twice was in superhero movies.
When I was a teen, my lefty friend dragged me to every left-wing propaganda film out there. The Way We Were was especially painful. Miss my friend; don't miss the cultural garbage she surrounded herself with.
Out of Africa, Butch and Sundance, The Sting are three of my favorite movies of all time. My husbands is The Natural, which makes me cry every damn time he watches it.
I think one of the under-appreciated qualities Redford had was how he kept his family/kids out of the news. I don't think I've ever seen a picture of his first wife or any of the kids.
"He walked past me out of a restaurant in Park City in...1995? I'm 5'10" and he was shorter than me. And wearing a beret. His dinner companion that evening was Dianne Wiest."
Well, if he was 5-9 or 5-8 that's even funnier. He's so much taller than Dustin Hoffmann in "All in the Presidents Men" they always shoot them sitting down or with Hoffman ahead or behind. Never side by side. Redford looks much taller then Newman in Butch Cassidy, so Newman must have been a shrimp too.
the Randy Newman score is the one that sells the Natural, he didn't look anything near 46 then, he coasted on Havana, (which allowed him to tout his Castro philia)
He was the essence of a Hollywood star. He was handsome, charming, smarter than most of them, and durable. He made so many movies, as an actor and a director (and probably a producer as well). I never thought he was a great actor, but he was always good, solid. His character in his early movies (like Barefoot in the Park) was the same character he'd show up as in later movies. He made some great movies, and more than one dump. But he was always working, always churning out more. A memorable role in a movie with a great script in "The Natural". And he directed one of my all time favorites, "Ordinary People". He and my favorite, Paul Newman, were a particularly good pairing.
When it comes to this passing generation, I guess I don't hold their politics against them as much as I do the current generation, which mostly makes shitty movies and then castigates us for not thinking correctly.
He was the model of the attractive, well-groomed and well-spoken person who comes around, tells people what they want to hear, and then makes everything go to hell.
Redford was a pretty good director. Produced some good films too. Main problem as an actor - he didn't do "dark and gritty" very well. Wasn't much of a "tough guy". Not like his ol' Pal Clint Eastwood.
Not as many romantic or rom-com roles as you'd expect.
Inside Daisy Clover, This Property Condemned and The Horse Whisperer. The first 2 with Natalie Wood. They would show the first 2 late at night. Very enjoyable.
He was the kind of guy that Donny T hates, liberal, a conservationist and interested in people, not click bate. the movies he did with Newman wer exceptional, but my favorite is Inside Daisy Clover, where he plays a total bad guy. Met him in the '70's, when i worked at Universal Studios. lovely man.
Let me just add: Victoria says “ He was the kind of guy that Donny T hates” This is my biggest beef with lefties. They never miss a chance to divide us. Can’t we talk about anything where we experience what we have in common rather then insert some little note to make sure we understand that we are not united in anything. We must always remember that we are divided.
I remember when Robert Redford showed up at WSU my freshman year. Though he was an hour late, Redford (and several professors and students) hopped onto a bus for a tour on the Palouse.
The bus caught fire and everybody had to escape as the driver was yelling it was going to blow up.
Redford got into one of the support cars following the bus, high-tailed it to a nearby farm, came back with two buckets of water and put out the fire.
In case you ever wonder why true derangement looks like. A subject that has absolutely nothing do to with Donald Trump, and this twit brings up? Donald Trump.
So here’s a movie I never heard of: Situation Hopeless but not Serious (1965) available for rent on Amazon Alec Guinness, Mike Connors (Manix) and Redford. Alec Guiness is their jailer even though WW2 is over, comedy
If you're talking about changes to cultural context, maybe. But it's a unique love story set against a backdrop of Europe's pinnacle in colonial dominance (as in it was all downhill from there...).<./i>
..iI thought it was a visual stunner when it first came out with a light romantic plot. A rewatch a couple decades later cinema had far surpassed the visuals so romance lite is all that's left. Redford was himself...I love where the old woman shoots into the ceiling. I want to scream out 'YAHHHH!' like the guy on the second floor she shoots...
The Candidate and Downhill Racer were also good. Redford - the actor - almost went into semi-retirement after A bridge too far (almost a cameo role). From 1978-1991, 14 years he only acted in 6 movies.
Mikeski: what your wife make of this anecdote recycled today: Director Mike Nichols was considering Redford for the lead in The Graduate. But he asked him if he ever struck out with girls, and Redford did not understand the question.
"I also have a fondness for A River Runs Through It, although I can never decide if that was a Guy Movie or a Chick Movie pretending to be a Guy Movie."
That, my friends, is how you write a one line movie review. Well done, Anthony.
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He’s always Jeremiah Johnson to me.
Sorry he’s gone. I appreciated Newman but never got Redford’s acting or his personal anything…politics. I guess because he always delivers the line the exact same way. He was pretty and I guess that’s somewhere between enough and everything…
I remember him only in 3 days of the condor. I don't buy the right movies apparently.
"In a way, he was like the country he lived in. Everything came too easily to him. But at least he knew it. About once a month, he worried that he was a fraud ..."
The one character that he perfectly personified...
R.I.P. Robert Redford. I thought of that scene every day during the Biden-Harris Administration.
Sorry to see him go, but almost 90. That's a good long life. IRC, Redford loved the outdoors and took care of himself.
Last movie I saw of his was "All is lost" which was pretty good. Probably favorite was "the natural" or "the sting". Great Waldo Pepper has a fine Redford performance and a fine story but Goldman fucked up the screenplay and ruined the movie.
I actually haven't seen a lot of his movies. But I did see All Is Lost, and had nightmares for days.
It's a unique film. Literally one line of dialog. This whole movie and the crash scene from Cast Away really cement my ill feelings about the ocean.
His role in Jeremiah Johnson had a significant impact on my young life. His role in Out Of Africa was equally influential for me. One of the greatest American actors of all time.
Travel well Robert.
Yeah, that's right. 3 days of Condor is pretty good too. The story is absurd but its well acted and is engaging. You just have to suspend disbelief.
No escaping Utah this month.
Some one told me Redford was 5-10. I thought he was 6-2. But that's what happens when your co-star is Dustin Hoffmann.
Out of Africa was good- didn’t age well but still…
He was too pretty, but his acting wasn't near as good as other stars. Jeremiah Johnson was his best I thought, but 3 Days of the Condor was good action and The Natural was, well, a baseball hero movie so it gets automatic endorsement already. The Sting was fun but Newman out-acted him by a mile. I didn't think much of Butch Cassidy, too much New Hollywood.
Trump 45 didn't really know what to do now. Trump 47 does. CC, JSM
He was a landmark figure. It was not by accident that he was in so many memorable movies. Okay, he wasn't such a great actor, but he was great at being Robert Redford. He was a movie star like John Wayne or Clark Gable. That's a quantum leap over acting.......He was reliably liberal in all his opinions, but so what.
Never saw The Candidate. Need to watch.
I enjoyed most of his work. We have a photograph of my late mother (a big fan) and Redford standing together up at the Sundance ski resort… mom with a big smile and Redford with a “just kill me now” look on his puss.
A Family Favorite.
90 years old. He had special mightiness. Rest in peace.
He was a good actor, not great, but good. And he was in a lot of good movies, although none stand out as a classic. Interesting career, but I suspect in 50 years few will know his name.
Robert Redford?
Meh. Basically a run-of-the-mill lefty.
Asshole helped domestic terrorist killers go underground in the Seventies. Good riddance.
What's the movie where he plays a lawyer defending, I think, Daryl Hannah? In opening remarks he tells the jury that everybody, including himself, thinks she's guilty. BUT, all that has to be set aside to make the prosecution prove it. Really interesting performance there.
I always liked Robert Redford but I felt sorry for him because he was so often cast as a naive guy just finding out about some corrupt situation and overwhelmed by his knowledge. Starting with Three Days of the Condor, he perfected a look for that role - wide-eyed with his mouth hanging slightly open. Matt Damon carried it on in The Bourne Identity. It's everywhere now and it is true to life as a visual of a time of transition in someone's life. But the only thing is that in the movies so often the transition never ends. The eyes don't narrow and the jaw snap shut and Dirty Harry doesn't emerge.
So often, the bewildered innocent stays bewildered and innocent even when he figures out what is going on or, rather, he doesn't become someone who now knows how to act in the situation. He just dumps his acquired knowledge that such situations exist and remains someone who is unaware of the mean streets of his own society. He "had the experience but missed the meaning." Three days of the Condor conspiracy didn't mark that handsome, appealing face and, as a movie-goer, I was always just as glad but as a person I sometimes wondered what that kind of movie meant.
hollywood. do not care.
@ Stan Smith - not everything came easily to him. His father was high up in Chevron and Bob got a job at the El Segundo refinery. He was no good and was fired. But the people who fired him were worried about offending his old man and made a call to someone they knew in Hollywood. Off he went
“Asshole helped domestic terrorist killers go underground in the Seventies. Good riddance.”
What evidence do you have that Asshole helped terrorists in the 70s?
Always thought he was perfectly cast in the Twilight Zone. My teenage grandsons loved Jeremiah Johnson. A solid actor who was not afraid to be surrounded by great actors. All the President's Men is the best example. As a director, A River Runs Through it was a great period piece of the Mountain West. Without the Sundance Film Festival, we might not have ever seen films like Reservoir Dogs.
I prefer to think of him charging out of a Bolivian hut into a hail of bullets.
rehajm said, "Out of Africa was good- didn’t age well but still"
If you're talking about changes to cultural context, maybe. But it's a unique love story set against a backdrop of Europe's pinnacle in colonial dominance (as in it was all downhill from there...).
I especially enjoyed the quote "I can mate for life like the animals do...one day at time." Try finding that in another romance flick.
"The Natural" and "Out of Africa" are two of my favs. Classic love stories with great female leads.
Went to Van Nuys High School with my mom. She told me he always wore a black leather jacket and did not have great skin as a teen.
Some one told me Redford was 5-10. I thought he was 6-2.
He walked past me out of a restaurant in Park City in...1995? I'm 5'10" and he was shorter than me. And wearing a beret. His dinner companion that evening was Dianne Wiest.
I think maybe Downhill Racer is my favorite of his performances.
The first time I saw Robert Redford it was in Butch Cassidy, double billed with the Prime of Miss Jean Brodie. For a long time those were my favorite 2 movies. Good actor. Good guy. RIP
While I completely disagreed with his politics, I pretty much liked/loved almost every film he did. He chose roles wisely.
The Great Gatsby
"What's the movie where he plays a lawyer defending, I think, Daryl Hannah?
Legal Eagles
I find strange that we are culturally forced to give a rat's butt about actors.
My friend's really great doctor passed away a few weeks ago.
That matters to me.
The last thing I saw him in was a cameo in Dark Winds earlier this year. I didn't recognize him at first and I thought, at the time, that he didn't look well.
Howard said...
Always thought he was perfectly cast in the Twilight Zone.
I think that's my favorite of his roles. Wonderful little story.
Liked his other stuff, but my fave will probably (apart from Twilight Zone) be Alexander Pierce in the Marvel movies. I think it's kind of funny that of all the great movies he's been in, the only character he agreed to play twice was in superhero movies.
My favorite of his is "Little Fauss and Big Halsy." I heard he hated that movie, because it made him look like an Ahole.
When I was a teen, my lefty friend dragged me to every left-wing propaganda film out there. The Way We Were was especially painful. Miss my friend; don't miss the cultural garbage she surrounded herself with.
A "That guy's still alive?" moment for me.
I haven't seen most of the movies already mentioned, and have forgotten the rest.
Meh.
Out of Africa, Butch and Sundance, The Sting are three of my favorite movies of all time. My husbands is The Natural, which makes me cry every damn time he watches it.
I think one of the under-appreciated qualities Redford had was how he kept his family/kids out of the news. I don't think I've ever seen a picture of his first wife or any of the kids.
The Sting and Brubaker.
where he was a good supervillain, Condor was a good look at the Deep State, Sneakers had an interesting take on the NSA
As watchable as they get. Solid citizen.
"He walked past me out of a restaurant in Park City in...1995? I'm 5'10" and he was shorter than me. And wearing a beret. His dinner companion that evening was Dianne Wiest."
Well, if he was 5-9 or 5-8 that's even funnier. He's so much taller than Dustin Hoffmann in "All in the Presidents Men" they always shoot them sitting down or with Hoffman ahead or behind. Never side by side. Redford looks much taller then Newman in Butch Cassidy, so Newman must have been a shrimp too.
Redford should have played a villian in one of his movies. But I suppose he didn't want to spoil his image.
the Randy Newman score is the one that sells the Natural, he didn't look anything near 46 then, he coasted on Havana, (which allowed him to tout his Castro philia)
he did in the Winter Soldier, as the Deep State mandarin,
RCOCEAN II said...
"Redford should have played a villian in one of his movies. But I suppose he didn't want to spoil his image."
Hence, his hatred for "Little Fauss and Big Halsy."
yes he made woodward look much younger, even though he was older by six years,
as Cliff Robertson, who ended up playing some ridiculous hammy villains, as in Malone and Escape from LA, he filled the Condor role in Winter Soldier,
Pretty boy who epitomized white privilege. Did I say that right, CNN?
“I can’t swim!”
He was the essence of a Hollywood star. He was handsome, charming, smarter than most of them, and durable. He made so many movies, as an actor and a director (and probably a producer as well).
I never thought he was a great actor, but he was always good, solid. His character in his early movies (like Barefoot in the Park) was the same character he'd show up as in later movies. He made some great movies, and more than one dump. But he was always working, always churning out more.
A memorable role in a movie with a great script in "The Natural". And he directed one of my all time favorites, "Ordinary People". He and my favorite, Paul Newman, were a particularly good pairing.
When it comes to this passing generation, I guess I don't hold their politics against them as much as I do the current generation, which mostly makes shitty movies and then castigates us for not thinking correctly.
I’d forgotten Ordinary People. He got a great performance out of Mary Tyler Moore. Although everyone was excellent in that movie.
He was the model of the attractive, well-groomed and well-spoken person who comes around, tells people what they want to hear, and then makes everything go to hell.
Redford was a pretty good director. Produced some good films too. Main problem as an actor - he didn't do "dark and gritty" very well. Wasn't much of a "tough guy". Not like his ol' Pal Clint Eastwood.
Not as many romantic or rom-com roles as you'd expect.
Inside Daisy Clover, This Property Condemned and The Horse Whisperer. The first 2 with Natalie Wood. They would show the first 2 late at night. Very enjoyable.
I also have a fondness for A River Runs Through It, although I can never decide if that was a Guy Movie or a Chick Movie pretending to be a Guy Movie.
He was the kind of guy that Donny T hates, liberal, a conservationist and interested in people, not click bate. the movies he did with Newman wer exceptional, but my favorite is Inside Daisy Clover, where he plays a total bad guy. Met him in the '70's, when i worked at Universal Studios. lovely man.
Add peter Boyle and Melvyn Douglas, Perfection
Why bring Trump into the conversation? You folks really do have the guy living rent free in your heads.
Redford was also in a Perry Mason episode: The Treacherous Toupee. That was a good one.
William said:
"He was a landmark figure . . . . but so what."
Yep.
Twilight Zone episode from 1959: "Nothing in the Dark" with Robert Redford. R.I.P.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x80eim1
Let me just add: Victoria says “ He was the kind of guy that Donny T hates”
This is my biggest beef with lefties. They never miss a chance to divide us. Can’t we talk about anything where we experience what we have in common rather then insert some little note to make sure we understand that we are not united in anything. We must always remember that we are divided.
I remember when Robert Redford showed up at WSU my freshman year. Though he was an hour late, Redford (and several professors and students) hopped onto a bus for a tour on the Palouse.
The bus caught fire and everybody had to escape as the driver was yelling it was going to blow up.
Redford got into one of the support cars following the bus, high-tailed it to a nearby farm, came back with two buckets of water and put out the fire.
He was the kind of guy that Donny T hates...
In case you ever wonder why true derangement looks like. A subject that has absolutely nothing do to with Donald Trump, and this twit brings up? Donald Trump.
So here’s a movie I never heard of:
Situation Hopeless but not Serious (1965) available for rent on Amazon
Alec Guinness, Mike Connors (Manix) and Redford. Alec Guiness is their jailer even though WW2 is over, comedy
If you're talking about changes to cultural context, maybe. But it's a unique love story set against a backdrop of Europe's pinnacle in colonial dominance (as in it was all downhill from there...).<./i>
..iI thought it was a visual stunner when it first came out with a light romantic plot. A rewatch a couple decades later cinema had far surpassed the visuals so romance lite is all that's left. Redford was himself...I love where the old woman shoots into the ceiling. I want to scream out 'YAHHHH!' like the guy on the second floor she shoots...
Beetlejiuse
beetlejuice
Beetlejuice
sigh
A man that kids born in the 1970s could grow up admiring both on and off stage. Will never forget him in The Candidate and The Natural.
The Candidate and Downhill Racer were also good. Redford - the actor - almost went into semi-retirement after A bridge too far (almost a cameo role). From 1978-1991, 14 years he only acted in 6 movies.
Mikeski: what your wife make of this anecdote recycled today: Director Mike Nichols was considering Redford for the lead in The Graduate. But he asked him if he ever struck out with girls, and Redford did not understand the question.
Anthony said...
"I also have a fondness for A River Runs Through It, although I can never decide if that was a Guy Movie or a Chick Movie pretending to be a Guy Movie."
That, my friends, is how you write a one line movie review. Well done, Anthony.
I’m disappointed the Hot Rock is unavailable anywhere not even on DVD. I will have to hunt up my old copy of it.
All of the commentary from fellow actors (even James Woods) highlight how giving, professional and genuine Redford was on set. That's good.
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