"We regularly ask our broadcasters to refrain from showcasing off-court disruptions," said a USTA spokesman.
If the President is showcasing himself, shouldn't the anti-President forces get their say? Well... the President's attendance at the event is to watch tennis, which fits with the USTA enterprise of displaying tennis to all of us, traditionally done with celebrities in the live audience. The protesters' opposition to the President has nothing to do with tennis. They want to speak/"speak" on a different topic. The President is only "speaking" (silently) about his (possibly bogus) interest in tennis, so it's not really censorship... is it?
If you feel that Trump's occupation of the presidency is a highly alarming catastrophe, these fine distinctions are outrageous and intolerable. I'm sure I'm not the first person to bring up Hitler's showcasing of himself at the 1936 Olympics:
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"If the President is showcasing himself, shouldn't the anti-President forces get their say."
Not on private property they don't.
You have every right to protest your President on your time, on your property and with YOUR money.
Otherwise, fuck off or you will find out.
We're really tired of Democrats injecting politics into every aspect of our lives - especially while we're trying to escape with a little time spent watching sporting events.
If Democrats want to piss in the pool, they can get their own pool.
Pro-Hamas Jew-hating rioting protesting thuggish thugs think they can wipe their smelly arses anywhere.
Everyone in attendance -- here’s your chance to pretend you’re from Philly!
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And the federal government licensed broadcasters who are making millions of dollars by getting the privilege of broadcasting these premiere events need to understand - we will tolerate NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BULLSHIT any longer.
The premiere leagues need to take a page out of Augusta National's playbook for the treatment of broadcasters. You fuck over Augusta National and you will never attend another Master's event, regardless of your alleged national fame.
Jack Whitaker called the patrons of Augusta a "mob." He was banned from ever attending the Masters again, effectively ending his CBS career.
Kent McCord got the boot in 1994 for his crass comments about the course and was permanently banned from Masters coverage.
This is how you hold corporations earning billions off your sporting event to account. You find two or three smart asses and you string them up for everybody else to see.
The USTA has asked ordered broadcasters to censor negative audience reactions to Trump. Here's why tennis has a liberal bias problem.
"The President is only "speaking" (silently) about his (possibly bogus) interest in tennis, so it's not really censorship... is it?"
For what it is worth I don't think Trump's interest in Tennis is feigned. I remember of a video of him playing tennis in the last 10 years or so where he looked reasonably competent. That moderate level of skill isn't something that can be gained quickly, especially at his age.
I think the Tennis Association does have an interest in discouraging match disrupting performances like protests or people rushing the court. People ultimately watch to watch the competition. If 3rd parties can get attention to whatever cause they care about by protesting during those matches it will only encourage more disruptions. Not broadcasting disruptions during the match at the court or stands feels in the same vein as reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions. That being said I hope that broadcasters include normal crowd activities even if they might be interpreted as protest or support. So if they announce the presence of Trump, and the crowd cheers show that. If the crowd boos show that as well.
@FormerLawClerk
But the question is, should the news media cover the disruptions. News media frequently point cameras at people who are violating the rules and doing something wrong.
The property may be private, but the news media are also private. These are all private entities making choices about what to show, how to frame their message. The USTA is attempting to get the news media to align with their speech preference. Those of us watching what they do have our opinions about whether this suppression of the message is good or bad. Whether the suppression deserves to be called "censorship" is the issue I'm raising.
FLC is very pro-cancel culture. Say the wrong thing (in his opinion) and he will cheer the ending of your career.
Not surprised.
The News media want to promote as much visible hatred of Trump as possible.
The latest example is all the old white leftists piling in busses to protest crime reduction in black areas.
Yo Kak, we don't want files. Wake me up for perp walks.
Only dictators attend sporting events while in office. That's how you know.
"FLC is very pro-cancel culture."
Absolutely.
I read the rule book that Democrats wrote. Just working within those rules. Ending people's careers is a good way to keep them in line, politically. Democrats showed us the way.
Democrats could, of course, go back to the previous rule book. But I doubt they will, even though we execute their playbook far more viciously than they anticipated.
I think they should censor the players screaming in orgasmic ecstasy every time they hit the tennis ball.
A cacophony of competitive micro aggressive drivel. No wonder AI influencers are working their magic on the follower competition. It just struck me that the most damning labels for human beings are consumer and/or follower.
Althouse asked: "But the question is, should the news media cover the disruptions."
Should CBS News cover the Masters however CBS News wants to?
They can try, of course. And the Masters can find a different broadcaster. The executives of public companies have a FIDUCIARY DUTY - a legal duty - to their shareholders not to threaten their own revenues.
CBS cannot have its cake in the Sports department while the News Department shits all over your event.
Remember when the event media told their audience the crowd was chanting, "Let's go, Brandon!"?
And now, Ann, you can see why corporations shouldn't own the media.
Because it's easy to force a corporation to shut its fucking pie hole by threatening their access to the billions of dollars of revenue generated by these events.
CBS News doesn't give ONE. SINGLE. FUCK. about censorship. They're all for it.
I'm all in favor of ignoring shots of Trump or protestors at the US Open. I hate crowd reaction shots in any case. And I don't need to see 50 shots of so-and-so's wife/husband looking "concerned" or urging their spouse on.
Keep hope alive, Kak.
Clinton is in there. He invited Epstein to the White house.
I say show the demonstrations. It will help Trump, not hurt him.
The USTA probably thinks so too and so does Trump.
The more normal people see of the TDS afflicted writhing and foaming at the mouth, the more repulsed they'll be. People who like tennis are not going to be attracted to that. They aren't going to want to join that. Just the opposite.
I say show the demonstrations. It will help Trump, not hurt him.
The demonstrations will happen. And the demonstrators will get booed like only New Yorkers know how to boo you.
This will increase hatred for Democrats across the sporting world. And so yes, I hope the news media does cover their stupid temper tantrums.
Then ban any broadcaster who fans the flames from participating in contract negotiations for coverage of the next US Open.
Grab them by their pussy - so to speak.
"If you feel that Trump's occupation of the presidency.."
i Assume, that this is similar to:
"the Jooze occupation of the land from the river to the sea"?
@ FLC: For what it's worth, I've always assumed that nothing in the Epstein files could hurt Trump, given that MAGA doesn't care at all about his long friendship with Epstein. So Trump's refusal to order the files' release does seem odd.
FormerLawClerk said...
..And now, Ann, you can see why corporations shouldn't own the media..
so TELL US, FLC.. who (according to YOU) SHOULD own the media?
try to be honest.. I know it will be a weird sensation.. But TRY
FLC?
here are your options:
a) BILLIONAIRES
b) corporations
c) the GOVERNMENT
d) let me know if you can think of a third?
If we, as with Hitler, have footage of the POTUS tweaking on meth during the event, I would like the right to know.
Carry on.
Trump wants America to see those snooty rich Democrats make asses of themselves. Again.
knowing how vulgar, loud, and classless NY Tennis crowds are, I'm sure they expect plenty of reactions to Trump. Any attempt to keep it off the TV is welcome.
The Mooks at the Open can’t stop their mopin’
When they do the Mamdingle Stomp
Really somethin’ when the joint is jumpin’
When they do the Mamdingle Stomp
Imus used to go to tennis matches with Trump (remarking that Trump had a real Don Rickles sense of humor), so it's real.
Ann Althouse said...
@FormerLawClerk
But the question is, should the news media cover the disruptions. News media frequently point cameras at people who are violating the rules and doing something wrong.
The property may be private, but the news media are also private. These are all private entities making choices about what to show, how to frame their message. The USTA is attempting to get the news media to align with their speech preference. Those of us watching what they do have our opinions about whether this suppression of the message is good or bad. Whether the suppression deserves to be called "censorship" is the issue I'm raising.
What kind of society do you want Ann? There are several groups here with different interests.
1. Trump. Representing the Republican version of a Republic Administration.
2. The USTA.
3. Trump supporters.
4. Trump haters.
5. People who just want to watch some fucking tennis.
Your homework is to pick out which of these elements is incompatible to a free high trust society.
Group 2 and group 5 are interested in Tennis. Compatible.
Trump plays tennis so he wants to watch some tennis and build some social fabric. Compatible.
Trump supporters may or may not like tennis but they generally don't have time to follow the last group around. They will happily cheer for Trump when given the chance as has been demonstrated at numerous sporting event. Compatible.
And who are the Trump haters? Most of them are Soros funded shills. They demand the right to disrupt whatever events they attend. They care nothing for the event or the organizers.
Here is the 3rd post on your Thread about Trump at the US Open:
Kakistocracy said...
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9/7/25, 9:05 AM
Out of all of these groups why do you cow tow to the Trump Haters? They are dishonest and they are disruptive to the social fabric.
You whine about off topic posts and thread jacking.
These protests are just thread jacking.
Good to see the Youtube clip, because sports have been politicized by the Left for a long time.
In 1936, the Jews made a big fuss about the German Olympics, and wanted the USA to boycott. Everyone else was annoyed at their Chutzpah and ethnocentrism. The olympics were supposed to be non-political and a way for nations to meet in peace and compete athletically.
Avery brundage, who was essential in keeping the USA in the 36 Olympics was never forgiven by various philosemites, and was basically faced abuse for rest of his life.
Brundage did a lot of things his life, but his entire wikipage is just "Was he antisemite?" and "What did Jews think of him?" LOL.
FLC: I like your update of the cliche to have-your-cake-and-shit-on-it-too.
Prof: USTA and the press outlets have some kind of contractual agreement, I am sure. Each news org must have signed some kind of fine print that says USTA can restrict what they can film on USTA's land. Would you sacrifice freedom of contract to freedom of speech?
We have been discussing Pali protests at the grand bike tours. The broadcasters kind of have to show the sideline flags, because they are right next to the road where the bikes are. But when the protests go beyond that, to blocking the route, the broadcasters avoid showing closeups. They may pull out for a shot of the stopped peloton, but they avoid showing or talking about the specifics of the protest. They do this, as other commenters have mentioned supra, to try to lower the incentive for protesters. RR, JSM
I don’t think the president is attending because he wants to watch tennis. He is attending because he wants people to watch him.
There are people in this world who think no one should have anything beautiful or enjoyable so long as they are unhappy about something. Everyone should be forced to spend every moment caring about they thing they care about.
Those people should not be encouraged.
But wait.... these are all commercial products, not so? The tennis open, the sports coverage, the athletic sponsorships, the product placements, the overrides, the royalties. What about this is supposed to be unbiased? Do they have a Jumbotron at the open, where they can put a camera shot up of Trump in his box, so they can boo? What happens if they cheer?
I'm just not sure I'm understanding exactly what is the problem that needs addressing. I'm pretty sure it's not censorship though. It's probably some middle-management twerp getting out in front of his limited authority to be a prick, as usual.
Google AI: Tickets for the 2025 US Open men's singles final on Sunday, September 7th, start at approximately $700 to $800, with prices ranging from the lowest available seats to over $12,000 for prime court-side locations. These are secondary market prices, with the cheapest "get-in" price around $690-$760 and average ticket prices reaching over $2,600.
Not Joe Six-Pack.
Also--I would think/hope that the USTA reserves the right to remove overly disruptive spectators from the premises, if for no other reason than to allow the other spectators to enjoy the event they are paying big bucks to watch. In a private venue, your free speech does not trump my $2600.
Of course the only correct observations we can make are the ones that get Trump but if we observe the incorrect things we learn sporting authorities- NFL MLB Augusta National et al maintain tight contractual control over what can and will be shown on the broadcast. It sounds like the USTA is more interested showing tennis and passing on the opportunity to get Trump. Good for them. They may have learned how much it harmed the NFL…
New Yorkers have a long history of supporting and appreciating this event and it is unsurprising New Yorker Trump chooses this event to attend.
Sure, RC. Those obnoxious Jews, making a fuss about Hitler in 1936.
You have a real problem.
Trump? He's a listener too.
John Rich files his report... https://youtu.be/-brmcWbfXEI?t
I went to early rounds back when I was joe six pack. I don’t know if that’s possible anymore but once it was the case. I didn’t feel ripped off either.
"But the question is, should the news media cover the disruptions."
It's standard procedure NOT to put rule violators on camera, on the theory that showing them on camera will encourage others to break the rules. An example is when a fan runs onto the field at a baseball game.
But a crowd reaction (booing or cheering) is not a rule violation, assuming they quiet down during play. Of course we can count on ESPN to focus on the boos and ignore the cheers if it's about Trump.
Yeah, boatbuilder. Everybody hates somebody. Few are so consumed as RC.
Bob Boyd said...I say show the demonstrations. It will help Trump, not hurt him.
Not everything is about helping or hurting Trump. Some people tune into tennis matches to watch tennis.
The vid reminds us how average, formerly normal, German people were convinced to hate Jews for no other reason than they were born Jewish.
Kinda like how many on the left were convinced to hate Trump voters for no other reason than they voted for Trump.
Guarantee if Trump catches an errant ball, he will give it to the nearest child, unlike typical Democrat .
Achilles -- Rather than lecturing Althouse on her blog, why not start your own? Showcase your brilliance there instead of preaching.
You went full "Trump=Hitler" right at the beginning.
Never go full-on "Trump=Hitler."
Or even half-way "Trump≈Hitler."
Is the superbig tennis game still held in Flushing Meadows?
Why indulge in messy protests that nobody wants or cares about?
Make this Homecoming Week for Old Queens. Trump and Christopher Walken. New kids AOC and Mamdani. 50 Cent, Akwafina, and the Cuomos.
Throw in a few foreign royals and flamboyant entertainers and it would be a blast.
This is a sporting event. It is not broadcast as news-news. It is broadcast as sports-sports, in a private facility, with corporate rules for corporate profits and athlete profits, for all paying entities to watch athletes compete. When Obama was president, he attended sporting events constantly, always with positive staged photos that did not disrupt the normal coverage. Was that propaganda? Nah. It was just people behaving normally.
Nobody is censoring the media nor the lotharians who would try to disrupt the game only because Trump is doing an extremely normal thing for a president to do: attend a major sporting event.
If non-sports news occurred -- say serious violence -- the sportscasters could cover it and other reporters would quickly be on the scene. All reporters at that level are trained to report news.
Would you consider it censorship if you had a guest speaker for your students in your classroom and you did not want the media to come incentivize protesters to disrupt your guest, the purpose of the event, and the students and taxpayers who subsidized it? Was just anyone allowed to act out in your classes? Imagine yourself as the responsible corporation. Because you were.
Near as I can tell, USTA is asking actual live broadcasters of the men's final from cutting away from the match to the protesters, and are not at all asking media in general not to broadcast the protests, or to report on them. Pretty modest ask, in my opinion.
Trump is not coming to 'showcase himself'. Therefore the a-holes who would make a disturbance based on his mere physical presence have no right to 'equal time'.
I also can't seem to recall you or anyone else comparing Obama to Hitler whenever he attended a basketball game.
"...(possibly bogus) ...". Well thank God you thought to add this critical information.
"The USTA is attempting to get the news media to align with their speech preference."
Or maybe, just maybe they want to present their product in a non-political manner to avoid pissing off half their audience.
And, yes, the media is private. But I don't HAVE to let a private organization onto my property just because they have a megaphone.
The determination of some quarters to disallow Trump's participation in the ceremonial aspects of the presidency grew out of the accusation that he was a puppet of the Russians. Which was a canard.. The fake resistance was deeply harmful to the nation. The resistance has endured in the second term but Trump is less willing to cede the high ground.
Not everything is about helping or hurting Trump. Some people tune into tennis matches to watch tennis.
This is true, so let me rephrase.
If they do show the demonstrations, it will help Trump, not hurt him.
Bob Boyd is correct- if the USTA believed the demonstrations would hurt Trump they wouldn't be putting pressure on media to not focus on it.
I also can't seem to recall you or anyone else comparing Obama to Hitler whenever he attended a basketball game.
Right Tina- more of that asymmetry what has infected so many 'neutral' minds...and as I recall for the NCAA playoffs it was entirely Obama's intent to garner the public's attention on the event as an opportunity to promote himself. Of course the networks obliged by creating a (very long) program based around Obama making his bracket picks- for both the men's and women's brackets. We are all encouraged to hang on every word of his analysis. As I recall he was a good contra indicator...
I'm sure I'm not the first person to bring up Hitler's showcasing of himself at the 1936 Olympics:
Six degrees of Nazification.
0bama in his MomJeans was about as authoritative as it gets, amirite!?
I don't see how off-topic protests at a sports events are "Censorship", I say that highlighting these protests is political activism by the TV networks. The Sports TV networks stoppped showing the guy with the John 316 sign. And fights in the stands, and people disrupting the field of play. Streaking used to be a thing, so the networks stopped showing it.
Its what they should be doing. sports should be about sports.
I don't agree with conflation of CBS News and CBS Sports divisions upthread. CBS News may or not be covering news of and around the event but it is CBS Sports that is broadcasting coverage of the event.
BTW, the Womens singles final was pleasant to watch. The grunting wasn't out of control, and the two players were reasonably attractive and skillful.
Why doubt Trump's interest in tennis? The article says that for a couple of decades, he had a suite at the tournament.
The USTA can ask that broadcasters keep the focus on tennis, and the broadcasters can comply or not. The USTA is free to ban any broadcasters who don't play nice, from future events.
Trump is over 80. He's in his last term. He doesn't have to fake an interest in tennis. Hell, showing an interest in tennis with a lot of rich people in the audience probably loses him votes.
Standard political advice prior to WW II was: Never get photographed playing tennis or golf. People will think you're a out-of-touch gay man. There's still of residue of that. "Real men watch football and baseball while eating pork rinds and drinking beer".
CBS sports as with ESPN are as bad or worse,
Interesting, FLC et al., anyone who objects to Trump is a Democrat, leftist, or bussed in by Soros. A bit lazy, don’t you think? Could it also be that many Republicans, independents, and nonvoters are unhappy paying $8 a pound for ground beef, watching the job market come to a halt, seeing masked men haul away neighbors and family, or fearing that their own speech or appearance could make them a target? Just maybe some people of both—or no—party have concerns about Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP cuts, or Social Security. The DOLE job cuts didn’t only hit Democrats, either. Opposition isn’t automatically partisan outside the bubble.
The bigger question, as Althouse points out, is about the media. The USTA and broadcasters are private actors making editorial choices. Should they suppress coverage of protests to protect a politician’s image? That’s a legitimate debate about censorship, not a partisan attack. Reducing it to ‘Democrats pissing in the pool’ avoids engaging with the actual issue.
Broadcasters’ job is to hold politicians’ feet to the fire and report both praise and criticism. Public or private, politicians should never get a pass on expressed opinions or reactions. Suppressing coverage to protect a politician’s is avoiding accountability.
Chuck's comments help Trump too.
"Whether the suppression deserves to be called "censorship" is the issue I'm raising."
Reminds me of yesterday's Mamdani / Trump discussion. Trump knows he's going to be booed, if he didn't really like it, why is he going? Trump is waging war against elite institutions, whom are blamed for a lot of our seemingly intractable problems. I don't know how/where Tennis fits into all that, but maybe, just maybe it's all part of a grand strategery only known to Trump.
Compare the way protests against Biden's reign of error, was treated re NASCAR, they came up with the Joe Brandon sobriquet,
BTW. I'm using "war" 👆🏽 in the old pre-Trump -- metaphoric -- sense. To be clear.
Getting booed by the snooty is like a tonic to Trump. It gives him energy, makes him feel ten years younger, like a tall glass of warm Ukrainian orphan blood does to Hillary and Biden.
…Ann has a very ‘selective’ opinion of free speech…
“Achilles -- Rather than lecturing Althouse on her blog, why not start your own? Showcase your brilliance there instead of preaching”
kak-spreader, heal thyself…
glad i missed that scrum, is it possible for New Yak magazine to miss reality completely, as they root for the comet,
Let them show it.
One of the delights of the last year is the absolute indifference that greets every TDS freak-out. Progs need the dopamine hit of hysteria and we need the laughter inspired by their frothing. It’s all good.
“Your homework is to pick out which of these elements is incompatible to a free high trust society.”
Achilles version of a “free high trust society” where one can murder fellow Americans they don’t agree with politically. Remember Achilles doesn’t understand why conservatives weren’t in favor of murdering the CEO of a healthcare company.
Of course the media should be allowed to show what they want of any crowd reaction, that’s part of attending public events. A president shouldn’t have such thin skin to go so far as to dictate to the free press, he’s showing his authoritarian ass again.
And let’s not fool ourselves, Trump probably told the USTA to put out that message…or else.
it's a tennis match, if your two minute hate is that triggered, well take a tylenol
If you feel that Trump's occupation of the presidency is a highly alarming catastrophe, these fine distinctions are outrageous and intolerable.
And here we are again, arrived anew at the reason my brother- and sister-in-law aren't speaking to us and believe that they've made a moral choice in so doing.
How do we get back from here? When half the country uncritically believes that "Trump's occupation of the presidency is a highly alarming catastrophe" in spite of all sorts of evidence to the contrary? Every presidency has its catastrophic elements (Obama the Deporter-in-Chief, for instance), but it's only when a Republican is in office that the media presents the whole shebang as a catastrophe - and when it's Trump, it's a world-ending catastrophe. And we were all sold a bill of goods during some period in the past that the media are neutral observers and reporters of facts; half the country still believes that the 90+% of the media who breathlessly presents Trump as Hitler at the 1936 Olympics are indeed those neutral observers and reporters. The rest of us saw what those supposedly neutral people did with the Biden presidency, and if we hadn't already tumbled to the fact that they'll lie to advance an agenda, we tumbled to it then.
I heard an astonishing piece of a December 2024 Ruy Teixeira podcast today. He was talking with, oh, some guy, and for a while the subject was Substack. The guy said that, unlike consumers of mainstream news, those who paid attention to Substack's contributors were not taken by surprise by Biden's decline. I was walking the dog; at this point I exclaimed aloud, "Or paid attention to their EYES AND EARS!" It entirely escapes me how anyone, even the biggest fanboi or -grrl of MSNBC, could have missed Biden's "decline."
Yet so many people did, and those same people - even though the cat is now out of the bag and they KNOW they were being lied to - are back to their former heartwarming trust of the liars.
jim5301 said...
I don’t think the president is attending because he wants to watch tennis. He is attending because he wants people to watch him.
That is because you are stupid and you demand that Trump be the evil person you want to pretend he is.
Kakistocracy said...
Achilles -- Rather than lecturing Althouse on her blog, why not start your own? Showcase your brilliance there instead of preaching.
Cry more Chuck. You are a turd. Wherever you go nobody wants you to be there.
RCOCEAN II (noon):
"Trump is over 80." Bzzzzzzt! Not until next June 14th, so he's not even 79 1/4 yet. How anyone can write something so obviously and notoriously and idiotically wrong is hard for a normal person to understand, but if anyone can do it, it's RCOCEAN II.
Inga said...
“Your homework is to pick out which of these elements is incompatible to a free high trust society.”
Achilles version of a “free high trust society” where one can murder fellow Americans they don’t agree with politically. Remember Achilles doesn’t understand why conservatives weren’t in favor of murdering the CEO of a healthcare company.
It is just pointless to even deal with this morons straw men. She doesn't even know what a straw man is.
Just to make the point again that I actually made so the dishonest pieces of shit like Inga can read it and ignore it again and make up her own stupid bullshit to argue against: The United States Government should treat the Doctors and Insurance/Drug Companies who give them kickbacks to hook Americans on drugs the same way they treat drugs dealers on the streets or running drugs in boats.
If you are making drugs in China and shipping them here and forcing Americans to pay for insurance and drugs and "vaccinations" you are just as much a drug dealer as the rest of them.
EPSTEIN---FILES!
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Yes, let's talk about Trump being an FBI informant against Epstein. Thanks for the reminder. Now we know why his name is all over the files.
It’s probably a case of them willfully missing Biden's "decline”, Jamie
Achilles, why so angry all the time? You might find people take you more seriously if you eased off the rage. It’s as if you’re auditioning for the Most Angry Commentator 2025 Award.
Alas, Trump has attended the event. The crowds' reaction will cause enormous butt-hurt among Inga and the other TDS-affllicted commenters:
Per Fox News
"President Donald Trump arrived at Arthur Ashe Stadium in New York City for the U.S. Open men’s singles final on Sunday between Jannik Sinner and Carlos Alcaraz.
Trump was greeted with cheers and applause from the fans at the stadium. He mouthed, "Thank you."
*****
Preparation H is flying off the shelves in all the blue states.
“The United States Government should treat the Doctors and Insurance/Drug Companies who give them kickbacks to hook Americans on drugs the same way they treat drugs dealers on the streets or running drugs in boats.
Boom, there it is. Achilles admits to being in favor of extrajudicial killings based on HIS extremist worldview. Good thing he won’t ever attain any power.
oh noes anyways, Jeremy Clarkson is an all purpose report,
the irony is 15 years after obamacare, we find ourselves in the same problem,
“Alas, Trump has attended the event. The crowds' reaction will cause enormous butt-hurt among Inga and the other TDS-affllicted commenters”
So the media showed the crowd’s response good or bad and didn’t censor it, that is what is most important.
FLC is very pro-cancel culture. Say the wrong thing (in his opinion) and he will cheer the ending of your career.
A leftist wrote that. Without the slightest hint of irony.
“Maybe she’s got a crush on me.” Pete Sampras at Wimbledon in 1993 when asked about Princess Diana attending.
Ronald J. Ward said...
Achilles, why so angry all the time? You might find people take you more seriously if you eased off the rage. It’s as if you’re auditioning for the Most Angry Commentator 2025 Award.
I am not angry. Everything is going in the right direction.
Also I expect to be misunderstood by stupid people.
Have fun in the political wilderness Chuck. Nobody likes you.
And let’s not fool ourselves, Trump probably told the USTA to put out that message…or else.
Yeah. I'm sure that's it.
You get more deranged by the minute. Imagine what you'll be like after four, full years.
And you'll have nobody to blame but yourself.
Inga said...
“Alas, Trump has attended the event. The crowds' reaction will cause enormous butt-hurt among Inga and the other TDS-affllicted commenters”
So the media showed the crowd’s response good or bad and didn’t censor it, that is what is most important.
The actual crowd reaction is fine. Broad crowd reactions have almost always been positive when Trump goes to these events.
It is the paid for Soros hacks dancing around with the signs they can't read yelling at everyone and trying to ruin the event that need to go.
So Ronald, you think that the sports reporters covering a tennis match are supposed to stop mid-match in order to "hold politicians' feet to the fire?" That's honestly funny. Hilarious. Probably the dumbest comment I've ever seen here. Congratulations. Kudos. I'm in awe. Imagine the possibilities.
Tina, I’m not saying tennis reporters should run a cross-examination in the middle of a match. I’m saying the media — whether sports, news, or any outlet — has a responsibility not to selectively suppress public reaction when a political figure makes themselves part of the spectacle. If the crowd cheers, show it. If they boo, show that too. That’s not reporters editorializing, it’s reporting reality. Otherwise it’s not coverage, it’s curation to protect someone’s image — and that’s where accountability gets lost.
Achilles, you say you’re not angry, but then you immediately go back to name-calling and writing people off as stupid. That’s not a sign of strength, it’s just a tactic to avoid engaging with ideas. I’m not here to win a popularity contest — I’d rather stick to facts and reason than rage and insults.
That’s where you seem to struggle.
Inga said...
“The United States Government should treat the Doctors and Insurance/Drug Companies who give them kickbacks to hook Americans on drugs the same way they treat drugs dealers on the streets or running drugs in boats.
Boom, there it is. Achilles admits to being in favor of extrajudicial killings based on HIS extremist worldview. Good thing he won’t ever attain any power.
It is kinda fun to watch a complete moron take down a straw man.
If a bunch of doctors and insurance agents get on a boat in Venezuela and drive it to the US with drugs and guns they should get blown up.
Doctors and insurance company hacks in the US should get arrested and prosecuted if they are found to be pushing drugs on people like the other drug dealers in the US.
If they resist arrest the cops should deal with them like common drug dealers.
You are just a really stupid person and the only person you can boom is yourself.
Sad news for the lefties here. Trump was cheered by the crowd when he arrived. Boo hoo. Better luck next time!
https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1964750248393490669?
Ronald J. Ward said...
Achilles, you say you’re not angry, but then you immediately go back to name-calling and writing people off as stupid. That’s not a sign of strength, it’s just a tactic to avoid engaging with ideas. I’m not here to win a popularity contest — I’d rather stick to facts and reason than rage and insults.
That’s where you seem to struggle.
My strength is completely demolishing your pathetic arguments when you try to make them.
I tried to engage with you when you weren't Chuck but your arguments were stupid and when you lost those you resorted to dishonesty. Now that everyone knows you are Chuck it all makes sense.
Now we are back to where we were several months ago. The only point now is to humiliate you again until you leave. You are stupid and you are dishonest and nobody likes you. Chat GPT failed you as well.
I saw extracts of Trump's appearance at the open. Some boos, some cheers. Most of the crowd did neither. Of course, Libtards are liars - and proud of it - so they report this as "Trump mercilessly booed". LOL.
Personally, I wish he hadn't exposed himself like that. You never can trust a libtard, no matter how much money they have.
“If they resist arrest the cops should deal with them like common drug dealers.”
So did the healthcare company CEO resist arrest? You said a couple of days ago how you don’t understand “conservatives” response to Mangione killing the CEO. I think you are trying to slip slide away from your support for extrajudicial killings, or disguise them in a more acceptable way. You have some wacky ideas about how this country should be run. As I said, good thing you have no power.
Ronald, that's not what you said. You said: "Broadcasters' job[sic] is to hold politicians'[sic] feet to the fire and report both praise and criticism."
That is not the job of sports broadcasters. Are you arguing that it is the government's job to force private corporations to cover their sporting events in a particular way?
is he dumber than chuck ''lets find out'
Achilles writes: “My strength is completely demolishing your pathetic arguments when you try to make them.”
Awfully backhanded of you to put it like that, but I guess it's not your fault if it's the thing you serve. 🎾🎾
The United States Government should treat the Doctors and Insurance/Drug Companies who give them kickbacks to hook Americans on drugs the same way they treat drugs dealers on the streets or running drugs in boats.
I assume Inga would also be in favor of the same treatment for the Senators and Congresscritters such as Fauxcahauntus who took millions from the drug companies to swing vaccine mandates and the like, or to open the borders to easy fentanyl or the like...
I’m saying the media — whether sports, news, or any outlet — has a responsibility not to selectively suppress public reaction when a political figure makes themselves part of the spectacle.
Not all "media" is reporters. Sometimes media is a sitcom, which is under no obligation to point out people in the studio audience or others reactions to people in the studio audience. Tennis match is probably closer to sitcom than to news show.
Talk about two movies- it never occurred to me the issue was the coverage of the Trump boo/cheer ratio. I thought it was concern over the coverage of leftie protestors pulling stunts what disrupt the match. Protestors respond to incentives, like attention…
Igna hardest hit…
“House Speaker Mike Johnson made a stunning revelation Thursday in response to questions from CNN’s Manu Raju about President Donald Trump’s use of the term “hoax” to describe the ongoing controversy surrounding the Epstein files. In defending the president, Johnson disclosed that Trump had once acted as an FBI informant against Jeffrey Epstein—a fact that has never before been publicly acknowledged by a sitting congressional leader.
“What Trump is referring to is the hoax that the Democrats are using to try to attack him,” Johnson said. “He has never said or suggested or implied—I’ve talked to him about this many times, many times. He is horrified. It’s been misrepresented. He’s not saying that what Epstein did is a hoax. It’s a terrible, unspeakable evil. He believes that himself.”
Johnson then dropped the bombshell revelation.
“When he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down,” Johnson said, appearing to confirm for the first time that Trump had assisted federal authorities in building a case against Epstein.
The speaker emphasized that Epstein's crimes had long disgusted Trump. “The president knows and has great sympathy for the women who have suffered these unspeakable harms. It’s detestable to him. He and I have spoken about this as recently as 24 hours ago,” Johnson explained. “What he’s talking about is the Democrats who are doing this with impure motives. If they cared so much about this, why didn’t they do something during the four years of the Biden administration when the Biden DOJ had all the records? They didn’t say a word about it. Now, they’re doing it for political purposes. Not everybody, but a lot of them, and that’s what the President’s frustrated about.”
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/09/06/speaker-johnson-drops-bombshell-about-trumps-role-against-epstein-n4943403
Ward the Cleaver has only so much to work with, when he fashions his lies.
Achilles said…
“The United States Government should treat the Doctors and Insurance/Drug Companies who give them kickbacks to hook Americans on drugs the same way they treat drugs dealers on the streets or running drugs in boats.”
@ tommyesq…
Are you getting confused about who said what?
“I assume Inga would also be in favor of the same treatment for the Senators and Congresscritters such as Fauxcahauntus who took millions from the drug companies to swing vaccine mandates and the like, or to open the borders to easy fentanyl or the like..”
Why do you even think that DJT is bothered by "boos"? He DOESN'T CARE.
Iman writes: “Johnson disclosed that Trump had once acted as an FBI informant against Jeffrey Epstein—a fact that has never before been publicly acknowledged by a sitting congressional leader”.
So.....Trump who is claiming to actually be an informant— meaning by virtue of the word, he knew something malicious was afoot — is simultaneously claiming that the same investigation he contributed to is a hoax. Got it.
This is not a new revelation. This BS story has been out there for years. How about this — release ALL the files unreacted except victim info and let’s see exactly what Trump’srelationship with him was, so we don’t have to take the word of the man who is blocking their release.
Did wendybar make an unconscious pun at 3:04pm?
She wrote: "Sad news for the lefties here. Trump was cheered by the crowd when he arrived. Boo hoo. Better luck next time!"
Should we hear "Boo hoo" as "Boo who?" The answer to that question is "Not Trump!" Or would it have to be "Boo whom?"
Thx wendybar cheering, no booing. Lefties will think team Trump set a trap. Booing rumor made lefties jump on the free speech wagon - O no, we can’t censor crowd reaction. That would be against our principles. SUCKERS
Is Trump showcasing himself? Or is he merely attending an event as a spectator? A special spectator, sure, but still a spectator who will be otherwise invisible to the camera during play? Likening that to Hitler says far more about the person making the comparison than it does about Trump.
And broadcasting a sports event is different than covering news. The sports broadcasters are specially contracted to cover the event on terms previously agreed, which includes minimizing disruption. If the same broadcasters want to cover the event on different terms during on their news programs, no one will stop them. But their actual broadcast of the event must hew to their agreed terms.
It’s the Trump haters who seem to think we need to break all our norms just to satisfy their hate. It’s just plain tiresome.
News moves fast, seems DJT got mostly cheers & applause when he entered Arthur Ashe stadium
Do news organizations have an obligation to add boos to ensure the ‘news’ satisfies obligations to their politicians and strategists?
Other than abc/cbs/NBC corporations don't own the media. It's owned by families
And Hearst, Scripps, knight and so on.
These families all own (or did until recently) virtually all newspapers in the US
Warren Buffet via B-H owned 67 newspapers (until recently?)
NYT sulzberger
USA today and others Newhouse
WaPo Meyer to Graham to bezos
Wsj Bancroft s (recently sold to another famy)
Chicago McCormick
LA times chandler now another family
Broadcasters may have been told they can’t show any booing, but no one prohibited cell phone cameras from recording the sights and sounds within the crowds.
Duh. What's your point? That Trump should've ordered all their phones confiscated, too?
The dude went to a tennis match and you're acting like it's the end of the world if not everybody hates the guy.
Get a grip.
"Backed off" is a nice way of saying "Admitted he completely made up the story."
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) backed off his claim that President Trump was an FBI informant in the case of sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. ~ WaPo
It just proves though MAGA Republicans don’t care about those kids that were abused by Epstein. They only care about saving and protecting Trump.
“What's your point? That Trump should've ordered all their phones confiscated, too?”
My point isn’t that difficult to grasp. Thank goodness for citizens who have the right to bring their phones and record what is actually happening, then we don’t have to rely on state controlled media. Duh indeed.
"I'm sure I'm not the first person to bring up Hitler's showcasing of himself at the 1936 Olympics"
When was the last time a Republican president *wasn't* compared to Hitler?
It's before there *was* a Hitler, wasn't it?
Thank goodness for citizens who have the right to bring their phones and record what is actually happening, then we don’t have to rely on state controlled media.
So now it's state-controlled media ... meaning Trump controls it.
Is there any depths of stupidity you won't plumb?
"So now it's state-controlled media ... meaning Trump controls it.
Is there any depths of stupidity you won't plumb?"
Yeah, that's a gem. Trump controls the media. Right…
How many Jewish businesses has Trump closed? How many Jewish places of worship? Where are his concentration camps? I hate this nazi comparison bullshit.
Inga said…"My point isn’t that difficult to grasp. "
That level of stupidity IS hard to grasp.
In the last couple of hours so many videos are being posted and what’s being shown and heard is a LOT of booing. That’s why it’s good to know the people still have their phones to show the reality of what was actually happening in the crowd.
“Mr. Trump entered the back area of the luxury suite at the center of the stadium in Flushing, Queens, at about 1:45 p.m. and spoke to several people as fans slowly filed in. There was little demonstrable cheering or booing when Mr. Trump entered the main seating area at 2:30 p.m. for the national anthem.
But when he was shown on the video screens, fans unleashed a loud round of mostly boos, with some cheers mixed in. The president was on the screens only briefly as he stood and saluted. After the first set, he was shown on the screens again, and that time was met with louder, more sustained booing, as well as some cheers.”
NYT
I love that "(possibly bogus)!" What an excellent term you have given us for apparently every Mondami, every Newsom, every Democrat care.
In the last couple of hours so many videos are being posted and what’s being shown and heard is a LOT of booing.
So what?
So some people booed Trump. Some people cheered him.
Who in theee fuck cares other than insecure knobs like you who need constant affirmation of your hatred?
You've got issues.
Oh, wait a minute. That's from the NYT?
Is that part of the new state-controlled media?
Maybe the USTA put out the message because people who aren't fucked in the head wanted to simply watch a tennis match on TV without a bunch of leftists throwing a temper tantrum.
Speaking of the actual match - and I know there's at least one regular here who's played professionally (ATP 250s? 500s?) - I was surprised how easily Alcaraz disposed of Sinner.
If you don't follow tennis, the last eight Grand Slams (Australia, French, Wimbledon and the US) have been split 4-4 by just these two players.
I'm trying to think of a time when only two were as dominant on all four surfaces. If ever.
Who predicted STANDING OVATION?
Maybe the USTA put out the message because people who aren't fucked in the head wanted to simply watch a tennis match on TV without a bunch of leftists throwing a temper tantrum.
@Jim at, not giving air time to leftists demonstrating in favor of more crime and in favor of more black teenagers being murdered — have you considered the possibility that the USTA was doing a favor for the leftists by not showcasing how racist and despicable they are?
Monetary-Fiscal Interactions
I’ll spare you the read of all the evidence what supports for the brilliant last paragraph: Returning to somewhat normal fiscal policy is not economically difficult. Our economies do not face external threats. Again, pro-growth economic policy is easier than tax hikes or spending cuts. Everything that raises GDP raises tax revenue.
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