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Jim at ने कहा…: Fifty eight Democrats voted No on the resolution for Charlie Kirk today. Thirty eight Democrats voted Present. Twenty two Democrats didn't vote at all.

Compare and contrast the Kirk resolution with the resolution in June honoring Melissa Hortman and her husband. That vote was 424-0.

These people aren't commenters on a blog. These are elected officials representing their constituents.

I don't want to hear another fucking word about 'both sides.'; 19/9/25, 7:10 pm
rhhardin ने कहा…: Kimmel, Kirk killed by own supporters.

It's fiction and fiction has an audience that likes it. They live in it as if it's true because it's entertaining. They know it's false but it doesn't matter. Here's a safe place where it's true, is the sentiment.

Doubt that anyone can willingly believe obvious fiction?

``When there was as yet no shrub of the field upon earth, and as yet no grasses of the field had sprouted, because Yahweh had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to till the soil, but a flow welled up from the ground and watered the whole surface of the earth, then Yahweh molded Adam from the earth's dust (adamah), and blew into the nostrils the breath of life, and Adam became a living being.''

That's not meant to deceive but to present. It's an allegory for something true.

Likewise Kimmel.

Lit crit exercise: list five ways that Kirk was killed by his own supporters, as an allegory.

Lit crit hint: killing often stands for change.; 19/9/25, 7:12 pm
rhhardin ने कहा…: Forced memorializing is forced speech. It's the Pledge of Allegiance rule.

You might not want to deify Kirk. Some questionable quotes floating around, from meanness towards specific blacks to generic antisemitism ("Jewish money" as a cause of our problems).

Glenn Loury listen until 1:12:08; 19/9/25, 7:16 pm
Mason G ने कहा…: I don't want to hear another fucking word about 'both sides.'

Prediction: You will.; 19/9/25, 7:17 pm
rhhardin ने कहा…: Clip starts at 57:26 so it's not as much listening as you might think; 19/9/25, 7:18 pm
Kakistocracy ने कहा…: U.S. Attorney Investigating Two Trump Foes Resigns After President Seeks to Oust Him ~ NYT

It's good that Siebert is doing the right thing, but "refusing to charge when there's not evidence" is a pretty low bar to clear. He's the frog that gave the scorpion a ride.

Trails off in contemplation of how BS the charges have to be for even Pam Bondi to defend Siebert.

"Attorney General Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche, the deputy attorney general who runs the day-to-day operations of the Justice Department, had privately defended Mr. Siebert against officials, including William J. Pulte, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, who had urged that he be fired and replaced with a prosecutor who would push the cases forward, according to a senior law enforcement official." ~ NYT; 19/9/25, 7:26 pm
William50 ने कहा…: Jim at said...
..."These people aren't commenters on a blog. These are elected officials representing their constituents."
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Which is exactly what they are doing.; 19/9/25, 7:36 pm
Mason G ने कहा…: "Which is exactly what they are doing."

I think that has something to do with his following comment...; 19/9/25, 7:41 pm
wildswan ने कहा…: A new poll says that since the death of Charlie Kirk the number of Republicans who think the country is going in the right direction has dropped by 20%. I wonder whether this means that 20% of Republicans suddenly feel personally threatened - that would be a lot, that would be a major shift on a life issue. We have to wait to see whether it's that. But, anyhow, a huge drop like that means that the issue is enormous in some way and the Democrats, as usual in these times, are showing themselves out of touch. They have launched a campaign to support Jimmy Kimmel, a man who spoke about "the MAGA gang." That can only intensify the feeling that country is going in "the wrong direction." Republicans aren't a party to the supporters of this late night host, we're a "gang." That's ... not good.; 19/9/25, 7:42 pm
TeaBagHag ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 19/9/25, 7:49 pm
Mason G ने कहा…: "I wonder whether this means that 20% of Republicans suddenly feel personally threatened..."

I would suspect it didn't have anything to do with feeling personally threatened, just that Democrats continue to insist on being assholes.

At some point, you're bound to give up hope that'll ever change.; 19/9/25, 7:50 pm
bagoh20 ने कहा…: The Kimmel suspension reminds me of employees I've had over the years. You have a person who constantly screws things up, misses a lot of work and causes far more than their share of problems. After multiple warnings haven't worked, you decide the next infraction will be the last. They miss another day of work and you fire them. They almost always say something along the lines of "I'm getting fired for missing one day of work?" That's what the Dems are doing with Kimmel. He's been on his way out for years, and it's just gotten worse lately.

Adam Corolla, who knows Kimmel and the entertainment business well, said when you lose one affiliate, it usually means you are about to lose more and your days are numbered. Dozens of affiliates and advertisers were up in arms about the guy before and after this last episode. This was just the last straw, or an opportunity from his employer's view.; 19/9/25, 7:52 pm
bagoh20 ने कहा…: I have great admiration for Charley Kirk, but I don't think putting memorial up for votes in Congress is a good thing. Then again, we do it all the time for politicians, who are some of the least admirable famous people in our culture.
They recently renamed McCarren airport in Las Vegas to Harry Reid International. I hate that shit, even if Reid wasn't despicable, which he was. It should be called Las Vegas International, or maybe Lost Wages International, or even Desert Miracle International. Most politicians already get more then the deserve from us.; 19/9/25, 8:00 pm
walter ने कहा…: Rhhardin's link is meandering. Regarding Kirk, It references this:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/charlie-kirk-ezra-klein-tanehisi-coates?srsltid=AfmBOooAAEBFkPVmP2HQrvODD_q__GImXbtcntEyMW3oOgcrxAiPQYcF; 19/9/25, 8:04 pm
walter ने कहा…: Lowry also reveals he voted for Cornel West, because..
The other guy said he voted for "that gay guy, the libertarian"; 19/9/25, 8:06 pm
Michael Fitzgerald ने कहा…: "Most politicians already get more then the deserve from us."
Truer words are rarely spoken.; 19/9/25, 8:07 pm
Eva Marie ने कहा…: “William J. Pulte, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, who had urged that he be fired and replaced with a prosecutor who would push the cases forward”
I don’t know if this is true or not but (only my opinion, no real proof) Bill Pulte is a good friend of Scott Adams. So when Adams has a scoop or insights into what is going on in the WH, I assume they come from Pulte.
Scott Adams says he’s better but his speech is so much slower (even at 2.5X), he slurs his words and his thinking seems to be foggy. Especially today. Maybe it’s the meds.; 19/9/25, 8:09 pm
Valentine Smith ने कहा…: Does anyone really think that if you heard a shot fired you would actually have a rational thought such as that bullet is not meant for me?; 19/9/25, 8:26 pm
Tina Trent ने कहा…: You know what, RH Hardin? Show your coward face. The little non-sequitor thing stopped working years ago, and we all know it.

Or go away, you pathetic example of a person who can't put a real name and face to your sad, crabby whines.; 19/9/25, 8:35 pm
Jaq ने कहा…: https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1969162872925093893

Shots fired at ABC affiliate. The original Nazis used to sent thugs to create an air of violence around their political opponents, so my guess is that this is what is happening. It's only a guess, I don't claim to have any further information than the tweet, and long experience studying these people running the Democratic Party.; 19/9/25, 8:50 pm
Jaq ने कहा…: The WEF is pulling the J6 scam in Romania now. They are going after the guy who would have won the election, but a court ruled that he couldn't run, and interesting, not as a matter of law, but as a matter of the judge's conscience. Now they are claiming that he was planning a violent coup, even as all of their other claims about him turned out to be utter fantasy, hence, ruling him ineligible because the judge had a "conscience" veto.

They are going to put him in jail for the crime of being popular, and against the war with Russia. But remember, we are fighting because Putin is a dictator!

It's always projection. Always.; 19/9/25, 8:53 pm
Eva Marie ने कहा…: “You know what, RH Hardin? Show your coward face. The little non-sequitor thing stopped working years ago, and we all know it.
Or go away, you pathetic example of a person who can't put a real name and face to your sad, crabby whines.”
OMG, Now you have to stay RH Hardin!
Now that I know your comments bug TT, I like them even more.; 19/9/25, 8:55 pm
Douger ने कहा…: Yes. I am feeling personally threatened. My faith and my friends are being attacked. My representative is receiving death threats and people close to me are applauding. It’s personal…. This is a significant moment.; 19/9/25, 9:06 pm
FormerLawClerk ने कहा…: Not whatever you want. It's never whatever you want. It's all fiction.; 19/9/25, 9:15 pm
Big Mike ने कहा…: From the Babylon Bee: Recent events in American society indicated that the very same people who are okay with murder are also outraged by the cancellation of a TV show.; 19/9/25, 9:21 pm
Big Mike ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 19/9/25, 9:22 pm
Eva Marie ने कहा…: This is my favorite. I’d embroider it on a pillow but too wordy:
Tina Trent commenting on me:
“Don't let your preening, narcissistic identity vote for you. Vote for the best platform. Capice? You people are so sad. If a trustworthy, rational, Democrat appeared on the scene, I'd consider them. And I wouldn't make it all about me.
Pathetic and Deluded is no way go through life. Have the guts to make the right choices, not the politically correct ones. I've voted for local Democrats who get the job done. You're just hysterical. Exactly how many hours have you actually worked in politics? I estimate, at this point, when I have less productive time, at 700 hours. So stuff your attitude.”
I defy anyone to find a better Tina Trent screed.; 19/9/25, 9:23 pm
Tina Trent ने कहा…: Eva Marie: did I misunderstand you? If I did, I'm sorry. It seems confusing.; 19/9/25, 9:35 pm
Tina Trent ने कहा…: Also I can embroider.; 19/9/25, 9:36 pm
Tina Trent ने कहा…: So have at, Eva.; 19/9/25, 9:41 pm
Eva Marie ने कहा…: Tina Trent said, “I can embroider.”
You sure can!!!!!; 19/9/25, 9:42 pm
Original Mike ने कहा…: Eva, you saved your Tina reprimand?
I wish I had saved mine.; 19/9/25, 10:12 pm
Jamie ने कहा…: I defy anyone to find a better Tina Trent screed.

I dunno, she called me a rape fantasist for some reason. Which was so - I didn't know, what's the word, surprising? - since I typically agree with her. I've striven to let it go.; 19/9/25, 10:25 pm
effinayright ने कहा…: rhhardin said...
Kimmel, Kirk killed by own supporters.

It's fiction and fiction has an audience that likes it. They live in it as if it's true because it's entertaining. They know it's false but it doesn't matter. Here's a safe place where it's true, is the sentiment.
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It's a lot like the morons who believe "pro wrestlers" like Killer Kowalski were on the up-and-up, and still think the WWE is sotoday..; 19/9/25, 11:03 pm
gadfly ने कहा…: Did Trump say, 'smart people don't like me?'

A video posted to Facebook and Instagram by Nicole Kiprilov shows Trump saying this. Her post indicates he was speaking at a gala for Hope Through Education when he made the remarks.

Kiprilov is a Republican strategist, according to her social media profiles.; 20/9/25, 12:20 am
gadfly ने कहा…: Todd & Weld LLP said Newsmax has refused to pay outstanding billings {$426K} for the Boston-based boutique law firm's work in defending the cable news channel from a Dominion Voting Systems defamation suit.

Right-wing news outlet Newsmax agreed to pay $67 million to settle a libel lawsuit brought by Dominion Voting Systems over the outlet’s claims that the voting machine company engaged in election fraud during the 2020 presidential election.; 20/9/25, 12:36 am
Quaestor ने कहा…: "A new poll says that since the death of Charlie Kirk the number of Republicans who think the country is going in the right direction has dropped by 20%. I wonder whether this means that 20% of Republicans suddenly feel personally threatened - that would be a lot, that would be a major shift on a life issue."

Opinion polling by its nature always generates more heat than light, particularly right direction/wrong direction questions. Everyone in every profession are asked questions by our clients, patients, and customers that demand yes/no good/bad answers that we'd rather not answer in those terms because we know how deceptive such answers can be.

Q: Should I jump from a third story window?
A: No. You could do yourself a fatal injury.
Q: What if the second story is on fire?

It's p-hacking, isn't it? Each of those 200 supposed Republicans has a very nuanced and detailed answer to the stupid question offered by the poll-taker. I doubt an honest person could digest those answers into a clear and forthright trend. That said, I'll contradict myself self by speculating that many of those 200 believed against evidence that the Democrats are civilized people worthy of self-government and are now reluctantly persuaded otherwise.; 20/9/25, 5:37 am
Breezy ने कहा…: There are seemingly thousands of video hours of Charlie Kirk. He’ll always be with us.; 20/9/25, 5:58 am
jim5301 ने कहा…: “Hennepin County Attorney’s Office charges man following threats of violence as retaliation for death of Charlie Kirk”

Nobody here I hope.; 20/9/25, 6:01 am
wendybar ने कहा…: jim5301...can you please stop showing what a slimeball you are?? Grow up.; 20/9/25, 6:23 am
Jaq ने कहा…: That's why they use their violent followers to do stuff like this, so that jim5301 and his buddies can write comments like that. Who has the larger motivation? Jim's side, which is losing the debate, or ours.

It's my first rule of the false flag. The second one is if the motivation of the person carrying out the act is said to be that he is "stupid and evil."

The whole point is to paint us as "stupid and evil." They have a playbook. It's perfectly logical and it's designed to work on those of us who are basically honest and have a good heart, known in the business as "normies." They use these attributes like control knobs.; 20/9/25, 6:51 am
narciso ने कहा…: hennepin county is like mos eiseley, a den of scum and villainy, thats where they charged chauvin, even though he was in the right, so I trust that story as much as I can throw them
btw, I can't dismiss the cretinous lies re robinson as rhardin can, its not about melodrama, its about causing erika and her children pain, also inspiring the next group of psychos; 20/9/25, 7:04 am
Saint Croix ने कहा…: If Charlie Kirk was a leftist who was assassinated

there would be riots all over

and lots of innocent people would be killed

and the media would call it "mostly peaceful street protests."

But a right-wing man was assassinated

so there were no riots

Just a lot of people who were fired for celebrating

and one propaganda jack-off who was kicked off the air

and yet, this peaceful, non-violent response is referred to as "fascism."; 20/9/25, 7:06 am
narciso ने कहा…: scorpions can do nothing but sting,; 20/9/25, 7:06 am
narciso ने कहा…: the jimmy kimmel fan dancers (ht frank herbert) are amusing, I'm sure he can go to msnbc, scratch that, well bang co conuts together like terry moran; 20/9/25, 7:11 am
Jaq ने कहा…: Here is the Tennessee Coates article with no paywall:

https://archive.ph/7uhwf

Apparently remarking that Joe Biden was corrupt, an assertion supported by a *lot* of evidence, BTW, and the only "proof" against it is that it hurts the Democrats to admit it, and that he has caused a lot of death and destruction around the world, which is also undeniably true. When Putin was on Ukraine's border, for example, he didn't negotiate, he blustered and threatened.

Nowhere, in his offhand remark, referring to a hypothetical world where there was actually justice for all, did he say that Joe Biden should be shot down like a dog, not have a trial.; 20/9/25, 7:21 am
john mosby ने कहा…: This will come as a surprise. I sympathize with the Dems who refused to vote for a Charlie Kirk (pbuh) memorial resolution. For context, recall that I am a red-hat Trumper, and I wore a Charlie (z''l) shirt to the Kennedy Center last night.

However, remember in 2020 when lefties were trying to get R's to say "black lives matter." Everyone but Romney (esad) refused. Why? Not because they thought black lives didn't matter, but because Black Lives Matter is the name of a political organization with aims far beyond keeping blacks alive - or really, not even including that aim. And with tactics including riots and violence.

Most people think puppies are cute. But if there was a political movement called "Puppies Are Cute" that rioted in the streets and sought all sorts of woke policies besides just protecting puppies, a lot of Rs would stop saying puppies are cute. They'd say "young canids are beautiful" or "all pets are cute" or something like that.

Anyway, I think the D's who voted no or abstained saw a Kirk (z''l) memorial resolution as a similar semantic trap. So they steered clear of it. The resolution did have a lot of "whereases" praising Charlie's (rip) career. So it wasn't just an "agree with him or not - don't kill the guy" resolution.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/719/text

But hey, if they can run around screaming "Pence won't even say black lives matter!" then we can run around screaming "they wouldn't even vote for a non-violence resolution!" CC, JSM; 20/9/25, 7:31 am
Jaq ने कहा…: The other thing that Coates said was that Kirk viewed the Palestinians as not human, which is also not true: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2qn0mvSCig

And apparently, pointing out that Maxwell's father was a spy chief with the Mossad is "anti-semitic"

But one thing that bothers me is what is this "fulfillment of prophecy" of which Kirk speaks regarding Israel? What he said was that he believed that Israel had a scriptural right to the land, and that he believed in "fulfillment of prophecy." Maybe he should read the Book of Joshua and how the Israelites put every many woman child and even animal to the blade, with the exception of one woman who had unknowingly betrayed her own people to their extermination by helping an Israelite. That's what's in the Book.; 20/9/25, 7:39 am
Jaq ने कहा…: I was talking about Jericho. I feel bad for the poor Bar Mitzvah boy who gets the description of that battle as his Tora portion.; 20/9/25, 7:42 am
Jersey Fled ने कहा…: Strange but I don’t recall Republicans refusing to say “Black Lives Matter”. Except in the context of BLM demonstrators screaming in their faces to say it. I’d probably refuse to say it in that context also. Even though I firmly believe that Black lives matter. As do all lives. Including unborn ones.; 20/9/25, 7:48 am
narciso ने कहा…: tennessee coates is the village idiot, he though he was James Baldwin or Richard Wright, and he does think Jews are not worth anything,; 20/9/25, 7:58 am
john mosby ने कहा…: Pence on Face The Nation refusing to say Black Lives Matter:

https://youtu.be/juJzmpBQCTw?si=rGzA814bQOaVe5b7

CC, JSM; 20/9/25, 8:07 am
narciso ने कहा…: woopie do,; 20/9/25, 8:08 am
n.n ने कहा…: "Black Lives Matter" is endorsement of a notably DEIst (e.g. racist) corporation and handmade tale.

That said, baby lives matter.; 20/9/25, 8:17 am
Ronald J. Ward ने कहा…: Mosby @ 7:31AM, break your comment down — the false equivalence, the “semantic trap” framing, and the gotcha-symmetry politics — and the comparison doesn’t hold. Black Lives Matter is a broad movement and slogan with a contested political agenda; declining to say that slogan isn’t the same as refusing to endorse the basic value that lives matter. A Kirk memorial resolution, by contrast, is praise for one polarizing individual. Avoiding an implied endorsement of an ideology isn’t equivalent to denying a moral principle.; 20/9/25, 8:27 am
john mosby ने कहा…: RJW: True. In both cases: BLM and Kirk (z’’l). Which is why Dems have the right not to vote for the resolution, and R’s have the right to twist it out of context for maximum benefit. I realize that shoe hurts - maybe try hospital socks? CC, JSM; 20/9/25, 8:29 am
Peachy ने कहा…: ot: OAC refused to vote for the anti-violence measure. 100 dems did vote for it.
Instead, AOC viciously attacked Charlie kirk and used her altered Kirk Quotes to call him a antisemite a racist and a fascist.

Ryan read the Charlie Kirk Quotes out loud - they are not any of the things AOC insisted. He used the WHOLE quote - with all context.

One guest on Ryan's show said - "I hope every top lawyer around the nation is on the phone with Erika Kirk right now ."; 20/9/25, 8:33 am
Peachy ने कहा…: AOC thinks it's not only OK with omit context and alter quotes - she is fine doing so - to exploit and inspire violence against people she disagrees with.; 20/9/25, 8:34 am
Peachy ने कहा…: AOC will never be president.

In fact - if only the GOP had a brain and some balls - she would be ousted easily from her congressional seat. She does a piss poor job representing her district.; 20/9/25, 8:36 am
john mosby ने कहा…: AOC is protected from prosecution and suit by the Speech and Debate Clause. Maybe not if she uses her CSPAN footage for fundraising etc outside the chamber. And for that matter any of her allies doing so. But she is not immune from the R leadership taking disciplinary action. Hope they have big enough balls to push her into a “nevertheless she persisted” moment. CC, JSM; 20/9/25, 8:39 am
narciso ने कहा…: well the district, has a desire to suffer, she brings no benefit, and often detracts,; 20/9/25, 8:43 am
Peachy ने कहा…: run footage of the actual quote along side AOC's altered and cut-and paste quotes. Ruin her in any way possible.

The truth will out.; 20/9/25, 8:49 am
Rusty ने कहा…: I like the framing of that shot. There's no tension, but anticipation. Will somebody walk in frame and sit on the bench? Contemplative.; 20/9/25, 8:58 am
Narr ने कहा…: Ritual denunciation bores.; 20/9/25, 9:04 am
Achilles ने कहा…: john mosby said...
This will come as a surprise. I sympathize with the Dems who refused to vote for a Charlie Kirk (pbuh) memorial resolution. For context, recall that I am a red-hat Trumper, and I wore a Charlie (z''l) shirt to the Kennedy Center last night.

I empathize.

I do not sympathize.

AOC is a dishonest piece of shit and a totlaitarian.

Charlie Kirk stood for the constitution and freedoms it provides. That is why AOC is happy he is dead.

These people cannot be honest about what they want. they do not provide us the same freedom we provide them.

AOC does not abide by the social contract described in our Constitution. She was more than happy to censor us during COVID. She is happy to dance on Kirk's grave and will not condemn the people who cheered his death.; 20/9/25, 9:35 am
Achilles ने कहा…: john mosby said...
AOC is protected from prosecution and suit by the Speech and Debate Clause.

But she would actively deny that protection to Republicans.

What does that say?; 20/9/25, 9:36 am
Quaestor ने कहा…: Jim5301 writes, "Nobody here I hope."

Put your mind at ease. It was one of your engaged in black propaganda.; 20/9/25, 9:43 am
bagoh20 ने कहा…: AOC is the quintessential Democrat. She brings performances, with fake outrage, and does nothing for her district. Democrat voters seem especially and terminally susceptible to that.; 20/9/25, 10:11 am

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