Grok: "Yes, this article is an example of a journalistic practice sometimes referred to as 'rumor-based reporting' or 'denial-driven journalism.'..."
Another prompt: "What are some examples of famous people who have been defined by rumors — the rumors stick as meaning something even when they are not proved or even regarded as likely?"
I expected Richard Gere and I got him... along with Walt Disney's frozen head.
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..."The race was close and Johnson (LBJ) was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumour campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his barnyard sows.
“Christ, we can’t get away with calling him a pig-f*cker,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”
“I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofabitchh deny it.”
Fear & Loathing on the Campaign Trail (1972) - Hunter S. Thompson
Sounds like the Pelosi wrap-up smear
Thanks, Aggie!
Leftist media has a special, uniquely strange obsession with Miller. That he is also one of Trump's best staff for clear, direct explanation of policy is no coincidence. While he was mourning Charlie over the weekend leftists were chalking hate onto the sidewalk in front his home.
About 30 years ago, Omaha was consumed by rumors. Really pre-internet.
The Omaha police chief, the newspaper publisher and an Omaha judge got caught up in it.
I knew the judge. Good guy. I felt terrible for him. The woman who started it got sent to the pen.
Google Franklin Credit Union scandal.
I think "Rod Stewart Stomach Pump" and "Bowie & Jagger" required denials at some point. Seems to be a theme.
E. Jean Carroll.
Christine Blasey Ford
Anita Hill
Sherian Bialek
Just off the top of my head
CJinPA said...
I think "Rod Stewart Stomach Pump" and "Bowie & Jagger" required denials at some point. Seems to be a theme.
The Bowie/Jaggar "rumor" was written in David Bowies ex wife Angela book. https://www.amazon.com/Backstage-Passes-Life-David-Bowie/dp/0815410018
Rolling Stone didn’t offer this gossip up as being true but rather as evidence of Stephen Miller being widely disliked by fellow Republican staffers:
‘When he worked as a communications aide in the office of Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions during the Obama years, he was so widely disliked by his conservative colleagues on Capitol Hill that Republican staff in other offices would invent or spread malicious rumors about Miller, such as that he liked to play with porcelain dolls. (A White House official insists that any such characterization of his time on the Hill is “inaccurate and baseless gossip.”)‘
See the word “invent.” Did the White House deny Stephen Miller played with dolls or did the White House deny the younger Stephen Miller was subjected to malicious rumors? It reads to me like the latter.
Jamie Lee Curtis.
I would have liked to have seen the clip if they asked Mr. Miller directly.
In other words, I think the Daily Beast is saying something Rolling Stone didn’t say.
JD Vance and the couch
Russian collusion hoax.
Brian Sicknick blood libel.
Rolling Stone didn’t offer this gossip up as being true but rather as evidence of Stephen Miller being widely disliked by fellow Republican staffers:
‘When he worked as a communications aide in the office of Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions during the Obama years, he was so widely disliked by his conservative colleagues on Capitol Hill that Republican staff in other offices would invent or spread malicious rumors about Miller, such as that he liked to play with porcelain dolls. (A White House official insists that any such characterization of his time on the Hill is “inaccurate and baseless gossip.”)‘
See the word “invent.” Did the White House deny Stephen Miller played with dolls or did the White House deny the younger Stephen Miller was subjected to malicious rumors? It reads to me like the latter.
Now you see why this shit works.
I heard that there was a rumor that people used to say way back when that Left Bank likes to sexually prey on pre-pubescent boys. But they only did that because Left Bank is such an asshole.
Deny that, Lefty.
"While he was mourning Charlie over the weekend leftists were chalking hate onto the sidewalk in front his home."
I hope he has a good security detail. We now know what these f*ckers are willing to do.
Nicolas Sandman
I too thought of the old Rod Stewart story, but I thought Richard Gere and his gerbil could stand in for both men.
We are playing the “when did you stop beating your wife” game?
Maybe he collected them for profit, not fun? The best stuff to collect and make money on is stuff you don't particularly like, so you leave it alone in the box and have no emotional problems parting with it when it makes business sense to sell.
Although dolls are kind of big for the typical DC junior staffer to keep in a shared house. CC, JSM
Leland at 12:31 PM is what I came here to write. Also, the legend of LBJ and his accusations that his opponent was a pigfucker (apocryphal?).
TBF we called them "action figures."
Russian nesting dolls are always coming up in mysteries.
Also the dude who owned the Rosemont Exhibition site (Donald F Stevenson maybe) in the Chicago 'burbs also had his doll collection housed next door. Just sayin'. (But I loved the venue because there was a Gibson's steak house right there in the Double Tree parking lot.)
Hunter Thompson also tried to start a rumor that Ed Muskie was hooked on Ibogaine.
I visited a museum that had a large room devoted to every GI Joe figure and accessory ever made. It was quite a display. There was a scale, sectioned B-17 with GI Joe action figures at every position, with scale weapons and period correct uniforms and equipment..
Political "journalism" at that level is essentially unstrained sewage. Make some shit up, publish it, and then the victim's denial is the story.
Boatbuilder is correct and Grok, as usual, is wrong. The point is that Republicans dislike Weird Stephen.
Rolling Stone said...
And was sued into bankruptcy for defamatory rape accusations WITH MALICE against a college fraternity.
Go pound sand Lefty BS Charles.
We are tired of you people lying, defaming, and murdering us in cold blood.
the former chief of staff in the biden era, anita dunn, was a mao fan girl, she held the glass eye I mean autopen, among
others,
they knit bobby soxes over teen terrorist tsarnaev, who has not been executed after 12 years,
..."Hunter Thompson also..." 'Also', nothing. If you read the entire excerpt, Thompson was discussing the campaign tactic of using smears and lies to force an opponent into a defensive position, forcing them to deny something thereby attaching more credibility to it. He called the LBJ story a 'campaign legend' up front, never once attributing a factual basis to it, quite the contrary. It was just a great illustrative example to use, as LBJ was a notoriously dirty campaigner.
"he was so widely disliked by his conservative colleagues on Capitol Hill that Republican staff in other offices"
IOW, not anyone he worked with but colleagues in other offices, thus keeping the accusation unverifiable.
I'm sure there were a lot of staff level people competing for positions who were jealous of him for being so effortlessly brilliant -- he made them look dumb.
They're not *dolls*, they're *action figures*! Okay?! Geez!
I dubbed it the basilisk, after the legendary animal that turned people to stone,
I nominate Jane Goodall for secular sainthood despite the rumors.
"I nominate Jane Goodall for secular sainthood despite the rumors."
Chimps are notorious tale-spreaders. Don't fall for it.
like fleet street with bananas,
And along with seeing Russia from her house, Palin raised the illegitimate child of her daughter as her own, I think.
Is this technique taught in Journalism 101? I was an engineering major, maybe should have minored in journalism instead of econ back in the day, LOL.
its monkey poop throwing olympic edition,
Rolling Stone didn’t offer this gossip up as being true but rather as evidence of Stephen Miller being widely disliked by fellow Republican staffers:
‘When he worked as a communications aide in the office of Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions during the Obama years, he was so widely disliked by his conservative colleagues on Capitol Hill that Republican staff in other offices would invent or spread malicious rumors about Miller, such as that he liked to play with porcelain dolls.
Did Rolling Stone also say these other staffers referred to Miller by the pet name Haven Monahan?
gadfly said...
Boatbuilder is correct and Grok, as usual, is wrong. The point is that Republicans dislike Weird Stephen.
Stephen Miller is popular among Republicans.
There are some people who pretend to be Republicans that don’t like him.
Also Stephen isn’t weird. He is just honest about what shitty people you are so you make shit up about him.
Best My Sentence Contest: “The Big Beautiful Ballroom Insists Stephen Miller Does Not Play With Dolls"
Lem: "Best My Sentence Contest:"
How about "The Party of Trafficking Children Insists Bill Clinton Does Not Play With Girls Who Play With Dolls?"
Or "The Party That Incites Violence Begs Its Opposition Not To Incite Violence?" CC, JSM
Leftists use chalk to lie. More intimidation and doxxing.
AFAIK Richard Gere has never addressed the rodent rumor, a wise choice. Marlon Brando also refused to refute salacious rumors about himself, would joke about them, and even started such rumors about himself
Yeah, Gere stayed mum, and the hamsters were . . . neutralized before they could talk.
Usually, somebody who has a reputation as a "really nice guy" faces rumors about pedophilia or cannibalism. Tom Hanks. Ron Howard. Fred Rogers. For Fred it was more about being a Green Beret in Vietnam.
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