Althouse: At the Saturday Night Café…

13 सितंबर 2025

At the Saturday Night Café…

… you can talk about whatever you want.

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Gusty Winds ने कहा…: From reports today, it's Trantifa. And the transitioning roommate / lover is singing like a bird to the FBI. Probably to avoid accessory to murder.; 13/9/25, 7:54 pm
Gusty Winds ने कहा…: Democrats and liberals will now claim Trantifa is a illusion. It doesn't exist. I figment of your paranoid imagination. Just like in 2020 when we all saw them light buildings on fire, with people inside. Trump's National Guard is probably heading to Portland soon.; 13/9/25, 8:02 pm
FormerLawClerk ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 13/9/25, 8:10 pm
FormerLawClerk ने कहा…: "Probably to avoid accessory to murder."

The co-conspirator cannot avoid that. He was discussing the hidden weapon with the shooter on Discord; he new his boy toy friend killed Kirk. They were working together to retrieve the gun the assassin hid (not knowing that the FBI already had it).

He either will be charged, or Kash Patel will get his narrow ass run out of town on a fucking rail. While the FBI was botching the arrests of two innocent people, Kash was living it up on the taxpayer dime in some exclusive New York restaurant, living high on our hog.

If it hadn't been for the father turning him in, the Keystone Kops never have caught the assassin.; 13/9/25, 8:12 pm
john mosby ने कहा…: I have been trying to watch Tommy Robinson's (sorry his name is so similar to the Utah shooter) rally in London today. Was never able to find a livestream of the actual stage activities - had to watch clips after the fact. Most of the livestreamers seemed to be in the back of the crowd. But here is what I have been able to gather:

- Official crowd size 110K. Real crowd size probably much larger. Showing that in UK, as here, the Right can mobilize and deploy if it needs to.

- Tommy's followers complained that the police steered them right into the counterprotesters. The groups were kept apart by physical barricades and rows of coppers, but still.

- The police claim 26 cops injured and about the same number of arrests. Not clear if it's Tommy's people or the counterprotesters. But since there aren't pictures of old white guys on all the Brit news sites, probably not Tommy's people.

- Tommy gave a pretty good speech. Had his guys bring out flags of the British nations, and an Irish Republic flag. He claimed that Irish Republicans and Orangemen travelled to the rally together from Belfast. Big if true.

- Musk dialed in and gave a speech colored by Charlie's (z''l) death. Basically said fight or die.

- Eric Zemmour, a French politician even more nationalist then Le Pen, gave a speech.

- The marching chant was "Starmer's a wanker." That alone makes it all worthwhile. CC, JSM; 13/9/25, 8:16 pm
john mosby ने कहा…: Also, Tommy's marchers are overwhelmingly OFP's - Ordinary Fucking People. 59 and up, probably middle class by their accents and mannerisms. Yes, mostly white English - but Britain is mostly white English. A lot of the pro-Tommy YouTubers chronicling the march are non-white culturally English people, and the random whiteys they interview on the march all immediately accept them. CC, JSM; 13/9/25, 8:20 pm
JaimeRoberto ने कहा…: Trantifa is just an idea.; 13/9/25, 8:21 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: Reddit is ready to bet their mother's jewelry, in an attempt to prove that because Robinson was born to Utah Mormons; that made him a far right gun totting... Charlie Kirk hater?
After diving into some of their murder justification morass, I'm not quite sold on their theory of the case against/for Robinson. It's confusing.
They are not even touching reports that Robinson's roommate was/is trans.

BTW. Do we have confirmation on the trans roommate story other than The NY Post?; 13/9/25, 8:22 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: Antifa - The democatic left's brownshirt thug creation -
will continue to murder people.
They are also openly doxxing and harming Police and ICE agents and their families.

This is not organic - It all comes from the top of the corrupt and evil Democatic Party.; 13/9/25, 8:24 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: I'm re-naming them Antifa-Jihadi; 13/9/25, 8:25 pm
Lazarus ने कहा…: So it's "Dog Day Afternoon"? 50 years ago, the trans thing was too bizarre for people to take seriously. They didn't know what to make of it.

With all of the "Republicans did this" "Democrats did that" talk what gets lost is the difference between sane, responsible people and the wild fringes. I was on the fringe once, thinking that the Clintons were drug kingpins, killing people all the time, but I've tended to avoid wild claims since then. No, I didn't think Barack was a Muslim in any real sense of the word or that Michelle is a man or that the kids were rented from somebody else or that pizza, ping pong, pedophilia, and torture dungeons went together well and were "a thing." If you thought Nixon, Reagan, and Bush were all Hitler -- and they all pretty clearly weren't -- maybe stop talking like Trump is Hitler.

My comments on "White Swan" ended up on the Madison vigil for Charlie Cook thread. "The Universal Theory," a German film, wasn't that good, but the commentary track was interesting. It was the crew's first feature film so they told where everything they put into the movie came from -- Thomas Mann, German expressionism, film noir, the French new wave, Hitchcock, Cronenberg. They didn't mention some obvious influences like "Zentropa" or "Phoenix." The name that came up most often, though, was Spielberg. Has he become respectable now?; 13/9/25, 8:26 pm
FWBuff ने कहा…: Professor Althouse, we don’t tell you often enough, but thank you for being such a strong and consistent advocate for free speech, especially through these last several years of silencing and opposition and now this terrible escalation of violence. Your courage expressed through this blog is so important.; 13/9/25, 8:26 pm
john mosby ने कहा…: Watching Bari Weiss's Free Press ep from the 11th. Basically a mourning session for Charlie (z'''l). Ben Shapiro and Konstantin Kisin make appearances. Bari is apparently at her home office, with her Hand of Miriam on the bookshelf behind her. She's got no makeup and looks like she's been crying. Konstantin, dialling in from UK, says he just put his kids to bed and thought of the Kirk kids with no dad to put them to bed. The whole thing is kind of a shiva. CC, JSM; 13/9/25, 8:27 pm
Jaq ने कहा…: Fauci under oath in the Congressional Record:

Dr. Fauci, were you ever engaged in attempts to obstruct the
Freedom of Information Act and the release of public documents?

Dr. FAUCI: No.”

But oh, wait:

Sen. Rand Paul got ahold of an email from Fauci, using his official government email, to his chief-of-staff Greg Folkers claiming that Sen. Paul was “full of shit” in the context of the COVID-19 death rate in New York and requesting Folkers to memory-hole the email: “Delete this after you read it.”

Remember, these are the people we are supposed to trust. Anybody who doesn't believe that Fauci is a saint in is "far-right!"

It's like 1984, where the only person who ever told the truth in the novel was Goldstein, who was the object of mandatory "two minute hates." We are all required to hate the people telling the truth as "nazis" because that's what the "how-to" manual, 1984, says.

Of course Fauci was among the thousands pardoned by Biden's autopen. We all know that Joe Biden had incredible energy at the time to review each of these pardons. But the Democrats are the "good guys."; 13/9/25, 8:29 pm
Andrew ने कहा…: I haven’t posted anything lately, because of such a horrific week.

But this speaks to what I feel about my friends who remain Democrats:

https://nitter.poast.org/RobertMSterling/status/1966974489553461366; 13/9/25, 8:30 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: Id imagine the trans roommate identity (if he/she does exist) is probably going to be kept anonymous for his/her safety. And that would be for the best. We don't want more people to be needlessly exposed to violence. First things First.; 13/9/25, 8:31 pm
Prof. M. Drout ने कहा…: Something has gone deeply wrong with our culture. We are destroying our young men, stealing their childhoods, curdling their love and joy, sucking them first into that "dreary flickering of the mind over it knows not what and knows not why," that leads to Nothing, and then, for the very most unfortunate, filling the resulting wound with fury and atavism that can turn against others after it has turned on itself.
I don't even have a proper diagnosis, much less an answer, but as I was struggling to write this, an idea did seem to come into my mind from outside rather than from within:
Young men are not put on this earth to be scapegoats, serfs, or subjects; nor does their value inhere in their ability to obey. They are born to be heroes.
When that birthright is stolen from them--whether out of spite and malice or for some noble-sounding reason like 'equity,' 'safety,' 'reparation' 'harmony,' 'peace'-- some young men may be more inspired to overcome the higher odds. Others will be disheartened and withdraw. But in a few, the scorn, rejection, constraint, and abuse they receive will twist and corrupt their natural heroism. These become the villains.; 13/9/25, 8:32 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: Beautiful. NASCAR honors Charlie Kirk with a powerful flyover while his image is portrayed on the Jumbotrons.

Listen to that crowd.; 13/9/25, 8:33 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: John Mosby - do you have a link to that?; 13/9/25, 8:33 pm
john mosby ने कहा…: Peachy, oops, sorry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzachq_DqmQ&t=3459s CC, JSM; 13/9/25, 8:38 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: A self-identified schoolmate of Robinson says, he, Robinson, was a Reddit kid. link to video

A "Reddit kid" is anything but "right wing". Believe me, today was my 12th cake day over there.; 13/9/25, 8:43 pm
Humperdink ने कहा…: I had two Amish young people (ages 22,19) working for me yesterday adding snow rails to my metal roof. I had my spouse drive them home. As they were talking, she ask if they heard of the Charlie Kirk assassination. They had not.

They did mention the Catholic school shooting. They were confused as to why the shooter killed all those people and then shot himself. Why didn’t he just shoot himself first they asked?; 13/9/25, 8:43 pm
paminwi ने कहा…: Ken Vibe Bandit:yes there is more information about Twigg. A family member gave an interview to Wisconsin Right Now. They are in Facebook and X. X name is:
wisconsin_now Lots of info from the interview.; 13/9/25, 8:43 pm
paminwi ने कहा…: Sorry: Lem not Ken; 13/9/25, 8:44 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: thank you - John.; 13/9/25, 8:45 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: A Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher wrote Charlie Kirk's name on the side of his cap with a calvary cross.; 13/9/25, 8:45 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: @bennyjohnson
Just spoke with top FBI official who made it very clear that they have NOT ruled out co-conspirators in Charlie Kirk’s assassination:

“That assumption is premature. This investigation is just beginning. An enormous amount of evidence has been seized both digital and physical.”

FBI sources assure me the public will “know everything” about the dark internet history, chats and affiliations of Kirk’s left-wing political assassin.

The source then alluded to some online groups attempting to delete or destroy evidence.

“We have everything. We are focused on the radicalization element. The truth will not be hidden, or buried or classified. The public will know.”; 13/9/25, 8:45 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: Thanks paminwi.; 13/9/25, 8:47 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: Lem - Yes Reddit is known left and radical left.
Tim Pool touched on that, too.; 13/9/25, 8:49 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: Maher: "The Real War Is Not Between Left And Right, It's Between The People Who Want A War And The People Who Don't". That is a good clarification, in the time of whataboutism all the way down.; 13/9/25, 8:57 pm
FormerLawClerk ने कहा…: If you haven't figured it out by now, there's a reason Democrats want to transition their children.

They've figured out how to weaponize cock-suckers and turn them into assassins.

These are the left's jackboots. Their shock troops. Their hit men.; 13/9/25, 9:01 pm
NorthOfTheOneOhOne ने कहा…: Protesters in South Korea chant; "We are Charlie Kirk".

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1966891281629512008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw; 13/9/25, 9:05 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: Bill Maher - Nancy Pelosi is a terrorist. Admit that out loud of STFU.; 13/9/25, 9:10 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: John Mosby - thanks again -
Agree with Katherine Boyle - 100%; 13/9/25, 9:10 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: Benny J
"The corporate media immediately ran with a narrative that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was ‘right-wing’

Let’s check in on that:

- Kirk’s killer lived with his transgender boyfriend
- He carved Antifa and LGBTQ slogans into his bullets
- His family calls him a ‘radical leftist’
- Top law enforcement officials call him a ‘Left-Wing Activist’
- His transgender boyfriend ‘hated Christians and conservatives’
- Co-workers confirm he was consumed with hatred for President Trump and Charlie Kirk
- He cut down the most powerful conservative voice of a generation

Now the media and leftists claim no one can ever know the motive!

No. The Left radicalized him. They weaponized him. And now they’re desperately trying to wash the blood off their hands."; 13/9/25, 9:17 pm
n.n ने कहा…: Maher: "The Real War Is Not Between Left And Right, It's Between The People Who Want A War And The People Who Don't".

Similar goals, but following different paths. With some exceptions, which are challenging to broach amidst the agitprop and agitation.; 13/9/25, 9:18 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: What FWBuff said... @8:26 PM; 13/9/25, 9:19 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: What Prof. M. Drout said... @8:32 PM; 13/9/25, 9:23 pm
n.n ने कहा…: Protesters in South Korea chant; "We are Charlie Kirk".

A tribute to his memory and work.

And Breitbart before, both men had an outsized, positive influence and inspiration for our communication. RIP; 13/9/25, 9:24 pm
FormerLawClerk ने कहा…: "Now the media and leftists claim no one can ever know the motive!"

What you're seeing is a guerilla war. The left has control OF the media. So of course, the media is on the side of the guerillas.

They want you dead. In the most public, horrific way possible. They are SHOWING US who they are.

We either fight back, or we lose the country. It's that simple.

The Democrat Party MUST be banned. It is a criminal organization. Membership in the party must be illegalized.

Donald Trump needs to channel his inner Abraham Lincoln and declare war.; 13/9/25, 9:25 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: FWBuff - yeah!; 13/9/25, 9:25 pm
Prof. M. Drout ने कहा…: In an earlier thread, someone mentioned the Westboro Baptist people who would interrupt funerals of U.S. soldiers and chant slogans that were obviously intended to disgust the largest possible audience. The reason they do that is that Westboro Baptist is a cult, and to survive, cults need to keep their members from defecting. One way to do that is to have your members do something that makes them believe they can never re-enter normal society. That belief can occur quite naturally after a person has been convinced to behave in a manner that normal society finds repugnant.
Now think of other groups that do things that make them in various ways repugnant to normal people. These things don't have to be in the socio-political realm like those done by the Westboro Baptists; alteration of neglect of the physical body in ways that triggers an immediate disgust reflex, and publicizing sexual behaviors that normals find repugnant would also work to enforce cohesion and prevent defections.
It is a cult.
Whether there is anyone 'running' the cult--particularly after the viral explosion of insane behavior among attention-seeking, desperate-for-validation upper-middle-class mothers--is unclear.
But that almost doesn't matter. Even if we somehow do manage to cut the head off of the snake, it is notoriously difficult to extra and de-program people form cults.; 13/9/25, 9:28 pm
Jim at ने कहा…: For the last three days, we've heard thousands leftists praising the killer. That he's some type of hero.

So why are they now so eager to insist he's a right-winger?; 13/9/25, 9:29 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 13/9/25, 9:33 pm
rhhardin ने कहा…: It's soap opera week for the right.; 13/9/25, 9:34 pm
rhhardin ने कहा…: What happens when you run soap opera in a nation-sized system is the same thing that happens when women run nation-sized systems. Instantly there are perverse consequences. The right will now run into that.; 13/9/25, 9:38 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: For the last three days, we've heard thousands leftists praising the killer. That he's some type of hero.
So why are they now so eager to insist he's a right-winger?

That multiple Spiderman pointing at each other meme comes to mind.

AI Overview:
"The multiple Spider-Man meme, featuring two identical Spider-Men pointing at each other, is used to highlight when two people, things, or ideas are ironically and comically similar. The meme can also be used to mock someone for accusing another of something they themselves are guilty of, essentially acting as a visual representation of "the pot calling the kettle black"".

To claim hero status you have to be blameless, beyond reproach.; 13/9/25, 9:45 pm
Mason G ने कहा…: It's a soap opera because people are outraged over someone being killed for no reason other than some other people didn't like what he was saying?

Don't be a dick. Or do- your choice.; 13/9/25, 9:45 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: This is a must read link. Esp for leftists.

https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1966974489553461366; 13/9/25, 9:46 pm
Jim at ने कहा…: Don't be a dick.

He pulls the same, stupid shit over at Legal Insurrection.

It's just as easy to ignore him here as it is there.; 13/9/25, 9:48 pm
rhhardin ने कहा…: When a tragedy happens in your backyard, you emote and do what is necessary, offer aid, offer sympathy, offer help, whatever makes sense.

Soap opera news brings the most interesting tragedy in the world into your backyard, where emoting makes no sense at all. Does no good. It's you getting the dopamine hit from emoting that was set up for local events, not your entertainment.

It doesn't work out because it doesn't avoid perverse consequences, which is what is necessary in running large systems. Instead you've got millions of lemmings following somebody's suggestion about what is to be done.

Just like women running government.; 13/9/25, 9:50 pm
rhhardin ने कहा…: Tyrus on Gutfeld Friday began
“You know, this has been difficult because i feel bad because I didn’t like what Charlie was doing. Um I’m not a religious person. And I find and unfortunately in my life experiences and and that most people that put God in front of them were full of it and dangerous.”; 13/9/25, 9:55 pm
Lazarus ने कहा…: If the roommate was trans and a furry, does that mean he was planning to become a woman or some animal? Dog? Bear? Elk? Cats are probably too small.

Ed Markey is tweeting that we should have followed Brazil's example. They sent their "election denier" to prison for 27 years. We sent ours to the White House. Markey, a senator from Massachusetts, hasn't given up on lawfare.; 13/9/25, 9:56 pm
Mason G ने कहा…: "It's just as easy to ignore him here as it is there."

Sounds good. I'll start right now.; 13/9/25, 9:56 pm
Lem Vibe Bandit ने कहा…: Salon: "Why is it so hard to stop Donald Trump?"

There is no toning down.; 13/9/25, 10:00 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 13/9/25, 10:02 pm
Lazarus ने कहा…: Can't let the day end without noting that Sunday was Mel Tormé's centennial.; 13/9/25, 10:04 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 13/9/25, 10:05 pm
Michael McNeil ने कहा…: For anyone who happens to be thinking of the Roman Empire today, one might note that tomorrow (2025-09-14 A.D. Gregorian) is New Year's Day (today is New Year's Eve) in the calendar used for about a thousand years in the medieval Roman (a.k.a. “Byzantine”) Empire as well as Russia during the Middle Ages—its official use extending up to 1700 for Russia and ending only about a century ago for (most of) the Orthodox Church.

The Western “A.D.” (“Anno Domini” or “Year of our Lord” in Latin) dating system, based on the calculated date of the birth of Christ (some 2 millennia ago), wasn't much used in the Eastern Roman realm together with the nations that it influenced.

Instead the (Greek-speaking) Byzantines:

a) began each year on September 1 (Julian), while

b) counting the years, not from Christ's birth (A.D.), but from the accepted origin date for the Cosmos as a whole. The system is therefore called “A.M.” (“Anno Mundi” or “Year of the World” in Latin)—or in the Byzantines' native Greek, Étos Kosmoú or “Year of the Cosmos” = “ε.κ.”

The supposed Universal creation date that the system is rooted in is the date determined by all the “begats” in the famous, classical-era Greek translation of the Jewish Hebrew Bible, known as the Septuagint—which both Christians and Jews during antiquity and through the medieval era agreed was divinely inspired.

By this means the Universal, Étos Kosmoú or ε.κ. Cosmos Creation day (according to the Septuagint and Byzantines) was determined to be September 1, 5509 B.C. (Julian).

Note that the great thing about ε.κ. or A.M. dating is that the system eliminates any need for negative B.C.-type dating. All dates in history occurred after the foregoing origin date; thus, all are positive numbers: there is no equivalent of B.C.!

Now, as to tomorrow. The next, new “Year of the Cosmos” also begins on September 1, but that's Julian. Since the institution during the 16th century of the Gregorian calendar commonly used today, Julian dates lag behind Gregorian by an increasing count of days, which is now up to 13 since the year 2000 and its missed leap year. Ergo, September 1 Julian = September 14 Gregorian.

Thus, tomorrow, September 14, 2025 A.D. Gregorian (2025-09-14, in the notation of international standard ISO 8601), will be New Year's Day, September 1, ε.κ. 7533—or 7533-01-01, employing a similar notation.; 13/9/25, 10:13 pm
walter ने कहा…: Initially, he was reportedly living at the family home. Appears he was splitting a 3 bedroom apartment with his Furry Trans Zirfriend of Taco Bell employ and pro gaming aspirations while he eschewed his 30k college scholarship to go to a trade school for electrician cert, maybe his only sane move.
His Dad, a near 30yr serving retired sheriff employing a pastor with Fed marshall ties to bring in his son. Was he not obligated to report this out beyond family?
So many people have some splainin' to do.; 13/9/25, 10:22 pm
Achilles ने कहा…: rhhardin said...

What happens when you run soap opera in a nation-sized system is the same thing that happens when women run nation-sized systems. Instantly there are perverse consequences. The right will now run into that.

Look who is back floundering about soap operas.

I am still waiting for some sort of normative principle that justifies empathizing with the left and validating their murder of Charlie Kirk. Anything at all.

You think we Ought turn the other cheek and try to accept their feelings and justify their pain after they shot Charlie Kirk. What principle would underline that action?

If we don't protect ourselves they they will kill more of us. That is what Is. What kind of Ought would make that a reasonable course of action? Why should we accept their violence and inability to follow the rules the Constitution has in place?

The only soap opera here is you and your disordered silliness.; 13/9/25, 10:25 pm
Achilles ने कहा…: rhhardin said...

Tyrus on Gutfeld Friday began
“You know, this has been difficult because i feel bad because I didn’t like what Charlie was doing. Um I’m not a religious person. And I find and unfortunately in my life experiences and and that most people that put God in front of them were full of it and dangerous.”

rhhardin wants you to know that Charlie Kirk was a religious person and that makes it OK to shoot him because it just makes people feel bad when religious people talk about applying religious principles to the social contract.; 13/9/25, 10:28 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: The entire Tyrus monologue was very touching.; 13/9/25, 10:31 pm
Peachy ने कहा…: Watch for yourself. Actually - watch the whole show. It's good!; 13/9/25, 10:34 pm
walter ने कहा…: To you know who (Lute player)
Ya know, I don't remember any "soap operas" showing someone getting shot in the neck for talking shit. They had a lot of talking shit, fur sure. But they never had the bullet to the jugular/immediate blood gush/collapse with toddler rushing toward him bit. What soap operas have you seen?
To Tyrese,
Just by appearing on Gutfeld as a b/Black man, some see him worthy of what Charlie got. Wake the Fuck up.; 13/9/25, 10:34 pm
chuck ने कहा…: They are born to be heroes.

They haven't much choice, they don't have reputation or position. They must fight, or at least work, to establish themselves. Finding your place is a scrum.; 13/9/25, 10:37 pm
Jim at ने कहा…: Can't let the day end without noting that Sunday was Mel Tormé's centennial.

Caught Mel Torme at Bumbershoot (outdoor concert at the old Memorial Coliseum) back in the mid-90s. The crowd was about a 50/50 mix of old and very young as he was doing jingles for Taco Bell and/or Mountain Dew. So, the kids knew who he was.

To this day it's one of my favorite shows as I think even he was surprised at the energy from the crowd. And he matched it.

Made my wife (then girlfriend) a fan for life.; 13/9/25, 10:41 pm
Jim at ने कहा…: Memorial Stadium. Not to be confused with the Seattle Center Coliseum.; 13/9/25, 10:42 pm
Eva Marie ने कहा…: Remember?
1. Bernell Trammell was a 60-year-old Black man and outspoken Trump supporter who was murdered on July 23, 2020, outside his small business in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He owned and operated “eXpressions Journal,” a modest publication focused on political and spiritual topics, where he created handmade signs expressing his views. Trammell gave an interview to a local media outlet hours before his death, urging Black voters in Milwaukee to support Trump. He was shot in broad daylight around 12:30 p.m. No arrests have been publicly reported in the case as of the latest available information.
2. Aaron “Jay” Danielson was a 39-year-old Portland, Oregon, resident and supporter of the far-right group Patriot Prayer, known for its pro-Trump activism. On August 29, 2020, Danielson participated in a pro-Trump caravan driving through downtown Portland, displaying banners and signs in support of then-President Donald Trump. The event led to confrontations with counter-protesters amid ongoing George Floyd demonstrations. Around 8:45 p.m., near Southwest 3rd Avenue and Alder Street, Danielson was walking with a friend when he was shot once in the chest by Michael Forest Reinoehl, a 48-year-old self-identified anti-fascist activist and Antifa supporter. Danielson died at the scene, and the Multnomah County Medical Examiner ruled the death a homicide.Surveillance footage and witness accounts showed Reinoehl spotting Danielson and his companion, hiding in a parking garage, and then ambushing them from behind. Reinoehl claimed the shooting was in self-defense, alleging Danielson and his friend were armed (a baton and bear spray were found near Danielson), but evidence indicated Reinoehl had targeted and followed them. Reinoehl fled and was identified as the suspect via social media and police investigation. On September 3, 2020, while a Multnomah County arrest warrant for second-degree murder was active, Reinoehl was fatally shot by a federally led task force (involving the FBI, U.S. Marshals, and local police) during an arrest attempt in Lacey, Washington. Just before his death, Reinoehl admitted to the shooting in a Vice News interview.
Vote every Democrat out 2026; 13/9/25, 10:49 pm
Jaq ने कहा…: What's going on in London is pretty neat. Who was the next to fall to the Epstein scandal? Why the war mongering UK ambassador to the US and personal advisor to Kier Starmer. Starmer, who has formerly held the role of chief prosecuting officer of the UK, said that he was "naive," and this excused him overlooking his buddy's predilections.

Yes, the demonstrations were about free speech, but they were also about how the war mongering Kier Starmer is completely out of touch with the stuff that the people of his country are going through, and is a lot more worried about the power elite in Ukraine than he is about his own citizens.; 13/9/25, 10:53 pm
Josephbleau ने कहा…: I read some speculation today that Charlie Kirk could have been the new Billy Graham. Perhaps some of us still remember him. Sad, because I think there is probably a good demand today for a national religious speaker that is more traditionally focused and not modernized.

Billy Graham set a tone for people, even if you were not a real core believer, he had something worth listening to.; 13/9/25, 10:55 pm
Rosalyn C. ने कहा…: Before the police identified Tyler Robinson as the alleged assassin I was imagining the profile of the killer. I thought (s)he might be a transgender woman who had trained in the military and was angry about trans being kicked out. But many commenters said military training was not necessary for this shot. So that theory was out. Still, I thought a shooter would have to be very confident in their ability to attempt something like that. Tyler had that confidence from his background. Now the NY Post is reporting that Tyler was involved in a relationship with a transgender roommate, although the details on their relationship are vague. Is Tyler a closet gay? Is that why he was at odds with his politically conservative family? I know there not a lot of interest or sympathy for them but in a way he's destroyed their lives too. So horrible and incomprehensible that out of the blue this guy decides to commit murder.
Which reminds me of the bizarre Butler assassin, Thomas Mathew Crooks, and how we still know next to nothing about what caused him to do that.; 13/9/25, 11:04 pm
walter ने कहा…: "Remember?
1. Bernell Trammell was a 60-year-old Black man and outspoken Trump supporter who was murdered on July 23, 2020, outside his small business in Milwaukee, Wisconsin."
--
I do. Strangely often.
Still, many think anti Trump violence has been repeatedly born yesterday. Well..like there's always another tomorrow.; 13/9/25, 11:09 pm
Jaq ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 13/9/25, 11:14 pm
Jaq ने कहा…: "Javier Blas@JavierBlas
OIL MARKET: Donald Trump sets tall conditions to impose any sanctions on Russia. It’s a cynic tactic as he knows well that others won’t accept.

But, and It pains me to say, he’s not 100% wrong: Europe continues buying Russian oil and natural gas."

Umm, it shouldn't "pain you" to report the news accurately, and btw, he's 100% right, which is very far from "not 100% wrong.; 13/9/25, 11:23 pm
Big Mike ने कहा…: Both Andrew and Peachy have linked to Robert Sterling’s Xweet. Everyone should read it. Everyone.; 13/9/25, 11:26 pm
Prof. M. Drout ने कहा…: Based what has been said about both "a romantic relationship," that the roommate had not been arrested and is cooperating with the authorities, and that there were apparently texts or messages that asked the roommate to pick up the gun (which he did not do), this sounds to me like the assassin's motivation may have been to impress or prove himself to the roommate or create a situation in which--he thought--the roommate would be forced to maintain or increase his romantic attachment.
We're not entirely shocked when young men respond with to break-ups very dramatically, with the worst cases being suicide and murder-suicide. Could this murder be something similar at its core, twisted and manipulated by horrible online communities into political assassination? Did the killer do it to dramatically prove his commitment to his partner by slaying an "anti-trans" dragon? Did he hope to bind his partner to him forever by getting him to implicate himself in a heinous crime by picking up the murder weapon?

(As you can see by my posting too many times and too late at night, this atrocity is particularly disturbing to me).; 13/9/25, 11:27 pm
Leora ने कहा…: Rosh Hoshanah the Jewish New Year is on September 4 and the year is 5786. Not so far off the Byzantine calendar.; 13/9/25, 11:34 pm
walter ने कहा…: Prof,
Did you see initial reports he was living at family home?
This all needs sorting.; 13/9/25, 11:36 pm
Leora ने कहा…: Turning Point USA says they have requests for 18,000 new chapters. They currently have 9,000. By the way they are a 501c3 so you can make a tax deductible contribution to them if you want to keep the college events going.; 13/9/25, 11:41 pm
Dr Weevil ने कहा…: Lazarus (9:56pm):
If Ed Markey thinks we should jail "election deniers" for 27 years, does he mean Stacey Abrams, who repeatedly insisted that she won the 2018 governor's race in Georgia? How about Al Gore? Last I heard he seemed to still think he really won the 2000 presidential race. Or Hillary Clinton? She also seems to think she really won in 2016. I think I've forgotten one or two others: can anyone help me out?; 13/9/25, 11:47 pm
Dr Weevil ने कहा…: Prof. M. Drout (11:27):
Various Twitter accounts have counted up to six Trans-oriented Twitter or Discord accounts that seem to show prior knowledge of the shooting. I don't know whether that includes Skye Valadez, one of the earlier suspects, who apparently (allegedly?) wrote a song called "Charlie Kirk Dead at 31" earlier this year, or the hippie-looking guy in the audience who was jumping up and down after the shooting shaking his fist and looking very happy. Either way, it does appear there was a conspiracy in the Utah trans and trans-adjacent community. With the boyfriend who wishes he was a girlfriend apparently singing, it shouldn't be too hard to catch them all. There are hints that the killer may also be confessing. We shall see.; 13/9/25, 11:55 pm
Rosalyn C. ने कहा…: @ Prof. M. Drout -- Very interesting and plausible theories; especially true how unbalanced some guys can get when they get obsessed romantically with someone.
Of course we'll probably never know unless Robinson admits to this, which is unlikely.; 14/9/25, 12:07 am
gadfly ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 14/9/25, 12:16 am
Ampersand ने कहा…: Ed Markey's NYT op-ed lamenting the failure of the powerblob to incarcerate Trump a la Bolsonaro https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/opinion/trump-bolsonaro-conviction-democracy.html
leaves me breathless. He believes that his party should have imprisoned the individual that most americans wanted to make POTUS. Let that sink in. And he chooses to share this with us in the immediate aftermath of a political assassination that killed one of conservatism's most influential and promising figures.
Make no mistake. The Dems play for keeps. There is so much money to be stolen that there are no limits to their lust for domination.; 14/9/25, 12:19 am
gadfly ने कहा…: The following confablation spoken by Donald Trump never happened. This evidence of sundowning was recorded August 26 in a closed cabinet meeting. You will likely recall the six day period when Trump wasn’t seen by the public, between August 24 and September 2, sparking questions across social media platforms asking if Trump was dead.

Since then, Trump has looked very bad in public, such as in this photo with his granddaughter.; 14/9/25, 12:22 am
walter ने कहा…: " I think I've forgotten one or two others: can anyone help me out?
9/13/25, 11:47 PM"
Perhaps you are thinking of Klobuchar and others who questioned voting machines, when that wasn't insurrectiony.; 14/9/25, 12:37 am
Eva Marie ने कहा…: Gadfly, you posted the wrong links.; 14/9/25, 12:39 am
Jim at ने कहा…: Unless that photo is Trump showering with his granddaughter, you ain't got bupkis.; 14/9/25, 12:46 am
Jim at ने कहा…: And again, this is one of those times where I wonder if Gadfly is a parody troll.

If he is? Epic. Genius-level trolling.

If not? All the mores the pity.; 14/9/25, 12:49 am
Jim at ने कहा…: You will likely recall the six day period when Trump wasn’t seen by the public, between August 24 and September 2,

He held a three-and-a-half hour cabinet meeting on the 26th, you stupid fuck.

Or should I say, 'Genius Troll Master."; 14/9/25, 12:52 am
walter ने कहा…: Trump noting politicians being two faced?
Fucking crazy!!!; 14/9/25, 12:54 am
gadfly ने कहा…: Eva Marie, my links are correct. Watch the video.

Jim, you are the stupid fuck, not me. A closed cabinet meeting is not an appearance before the public.; 14/9/25, 1:36 am
gadfly ने कहा…: Walter: Trump never talked to the Maryland Governor - It. did. not. happen. Except in his own mind.; 14/9/25, 1:40 am
gadfly ने कहा…: Tyler Robinson's motive: He believed that Charlie Kirk was a fascist.

Antifa is not an organizational or institutional framework working towards its own revolution. It is a set of practices performed by individual actors to prevent and disrupt fascist activities. So, is it really a leftist or rightist organization?

It is an easy call to denounce antifa "members" who participate in or endorse extralegal violence. That does not contradict a simultaneous judgment that Antifa’s stated end of resisting fascism is laudable. When Antifa shows up in force to protest Nazi rallies but refrains from initiating the use of force, using it only lawfully in self-defense, praise the Lord!

But without organizational leadership, such as in the case with Turning Point USA (which has always been financed by right-wing billionaires), antifa individuals react to suppress fascism in accordance with their personal beliefs as to how to withstand the Nazis they encounter.; 14/9/25, 1:55 am
chickelit ने कहा…: Gadfly wrote: "But without organizational leadership, such as in the case with Turning Point USA (which has always been financed by right-wing billionaires), antifa individuals react to suppress fascism in accordance with their personal beliefs as to how to withstand the Nazis they encounter."

Gadfly is an Antifa apologist. He would have done the same for John Wilkes Booth; 14/9/25, 2:03 am
walter ने कहा…: Jabfly,
How do you know this?; 14/9/25, 2:32 am
Jim at ने कहा…: A closed cabinet meeting is not an appearance before the public.

I cannot even respond to such stupidity.

So every cabinet meeting should be subjected to whether or not it's based up appearing in public? And we determine if Trump is dead or alive on that? In the middle of August?

You're not a parody troll. You're a dumbass.
And I'm done with you.; 14/9/25, 2:33 am
walter ने कहा…: Great. Tyler had a motive in his head. Was he right to kill Kirk?; 14/9/25, 2:38 am
Eva Marie ने कहा…: “my links are correct”
Then where’s Gordon Lightfoot? Hmm?; 14/9/25, 3:12 am
Hassayamper ने कहा…: My wife and I had reason to be in the vicinity of Turning Point’s headquarters in south Phoenix this evening, and decided to stop by. Both ends of the street were blocked off by police cars with flashing lights. We had to park at a nearby hotel and walk a quarter mile or so.

The cop I talked to was cradling what looked like a pistol-caliber carbine, but because it was well past sunset and there were no streetlights, I couldn’t tell what kind. There were several hundred people there, including old folks and young families with strollers, in a neighborhood where no one would ordinarily go at night. I did not see any black people, of whom there are relatively few in Phoenix, but the Hispanic and Asian communities were well represented in the diverse crowd. The cop said that “finally it is quieting down” and there had been many more people earlier. We thanked him for being there.

The sidewalk for a good portion of a city block extending up and down the street from Turning Point had been covered with flowers, hand printed signs, and notes and cards addressed to the Kirk family. The crowd was silent and somber. I did not hear any threats or calls for violence more dire than one old man who softly muttered “they’ll pay for this” to his wife. My own sweet little wife was weeping the entire time, but her jaw was set in fury.

For what it’s worth, since the topic of Billy Graham was brought up earlier, there was a parked RV across the street from the headquarters building decorated in Billy Graham livery.

We’ve been informed that Charlie’s funeral will be a week from tomorrow at our NFL stadium, seating some 63,000 people. The service will be at 11:00 but attendees were advised to show up at 8:00 or so, presumably due to the numbers of people coming but also probably because of the screening required for the President’s attendance. We intend to go, and make a sizable donation to Turning Point and another for the relief of his wife and daughters, and go forth with the resolution to live up to the example of fearlessness, forthrightness, and moral uprightness that Charlie exemplified, to the best of our ability.; 14/9/25, 3:17 am
wendybar ने कहा…: If Trump not being seen for 3 whole days makes the left think he died, what did they think when we never saw Biden for months?; 14/9/25, 4:37 am
RCOCEAN II ने कहा…: Movie watched this week : Happiness (1998) now out on Criterion blue-ray. Labeled a "dark Comedy". The acting is top knotch with the actresses by the three sisters winning the prize. Technically its well written. I love Jane Adams as the egostical "Joy".

The problem with the movie is that parts of it aren't funny. The Ben Gazzarra subplot is just filler, and the pedophilia story is creepy not funny. Not sure why it was there other than shocker material. So movie = very mixed bag.; 14/9/25, 4:37 am
wendybar ने कहा…: "“Tea Party was a ‘leave me alone’ movement, they didn’t leave us alone, and now it’s FAFO”
The suppression of the Tea Party movement led to MAGA. It’s one of those “don’t wish too hard for something, you might get it” historical sequences."

https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/09/tea-party-was-a-leave-me-alone-movement-they-didnt-leave-us-alone-and-now-its-fafo/; 14/9/25, 4:39 am
wendybar ने कहा…: Read it and weep. Nasty Nancy will NEVER take responsibility for what SHE has wrought.....
"It appears that words no longer matter to Nancy Pelosi. For years, Pelosi and other Democrats have blamed President Donald Trump and Republicans for their “inciteful rhetoric.”

Pelosi insists that words no longer matter. She may be speaking the truth when it comes to the left and the media. They do not matter if they convey righteously violent messages. It then becomes little more than “phrases related to cultural issues.”"

https://jonathanturley.org/2025/09/13/when-words-no-longer-matter-nancy-pelosi-and-politics-of-violence/#comments; 14/9/25, 4:53 am
Leland ने कहा…: Let’s start with this part of the organization then:; 14/9/25, 5:10 am
Leland ने कहा…: https://alba-valb.org/peter-n-carroll-anti-fascist-education-fund/; 14/9/25, 5:10 am
Leland ने कहा…: This describes an organization: https://truthout.org/articles/building-a-campus-antifascist-network/; 14/9/25, 5:17 am
Humperdink ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 14/9/25, 5:18 am
Humperdink ने कहा…: Watching the Commie left twist themselves into pretzels denying any responsibility for Charlie Kirk’s murder is a sight behold. All the Dem leadership are either in hiding or lying through their teeth.

Seeing Charlie Kirk’s picture throughout the London protest is reflective of the impact of Charlie Kirk’s life.; 14/9/25, 5:30 am
Leland ने कहा…: A closed cabinet meeting is not an appearance before the public.

A 3 and half hour meeting is not sundowning. Neither is playing a round of golf with your grandchild. Once again, botfly writes about subjects in which he has no knowledge.; 14/9/25, 5:46 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: Tyrus isn't in favor of shooting Kirk but is unwilling to be swept up in the all or nothing movement linked to the soap opera about his family tragedy, because the God first movement history is instability towards tyranny.

God first gets it backwards. The religion is a allegory for human morality, and a religion feels right to the extent it supports phenomenological human morality. That gets it adherents. Once the knowing-God's-desires dogmatists take over, the link to morality is lost.

Soap opera is pulling the right into that danger. They like the dopamine hit from emoting over it, just like women following Liz and Richard in the tabloids. If the "leaders" that emerge are God-first types, you fall into tyranny.

So Tyrus isn't quite going along.

Another black, Thylias Moss, was praised by Harold Bloom for her characterization of the correct order and the reason for it

I don't believe in [God]. He's just a casual acquaintance,
a comfortable associate with whom I can be myself.
To believe in Him would place Him in the center of the universe,
when He's far more secure in the fringes,
so He doesn't have to look over His shoulder to nab the backstabbers who want promotions,
but are tired of waiting for Him to die and set in motion the natural evolution.
God doesn't want to evolve.
Has been against evolution from its creation.
He doesn't figure many possibilities are open to Him.
I think He's wise to bide His time, even though He pales in the moonlight to just a glow...
just the warmth of hot chocolate spreading through the body like a subcutaneous halo.
But to trust in Him implicitly would be a mistake,
for then He would not have to maintain His worthiness to be God.
Even the thinnest flyweight modicum of doubt gives God the necessity
to prove He's worthy of the implicit trust I can never give
because I protect Him from corruption,
from the complacency that rises within Him sometimes,
a shadowy ever-descending brother.; 14/9/25, 6:07 am
rehajm ने कहा…: …that the gadbot has been tasked to spin antifa is the best confirmation antifa is a funded and built from the top asset of the left…; 14/9/25, 6:15 am
Dave Begley ने कहा…: Omaha’s Bud Crawford is the super middleweight boxing champion.; 14/9/25, 6:44 am
Eva Marie ने कहा…: “God doesn't want to evolve.
Has been against evolution from its creation.
He doesn't figure many possibilities are open to Him.
I think He's wise to bide His time, even though He pales in the moonlight to just a glow...
just the warmth of hot chocolate spreading through the body like a subcutaneous halo.”
I’m so sorry but this is just gibberish.
“[God] has been against evolution from IT’S creation.”
So creation and God are separate? If you believe in God then you believe God IS creation. God doesn’t inhabit “heaven and earth” God created “heaven and earth”. Now you don’t have to believe that but to make up a fantasy of what believers think and then refute it is just pointless.
She should believe what she wants to believe but she’s not grasping the nature of what a belief in God is.; 14/9/25, 6:52 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: She's saying that God has to stay in line with phenomenological morality, and testing God against that constantly is what keeps the religion moral.; 14/9/25, 7:07 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: Wittgenstein making the same point (Culture and Value p.31) citing Kierkegaard

``Kierkegaard writes: `If Christianity were so easy and cozy, why should God in his Scriptures have set Heaven and Earth in motion and threatened eternal punishments?' - Question: But in that case why is this Scripture so unclear? If we want to warn someone of a terrible danger, do we go about it by telling him a riddle whose solution will be the warning? - But who is to say that the Scripture really is unclear? Isn't it possible that it was essential in this case to ``tell a riddle?'' And that, on the other hand, giving a more direct warning would necessarily have had the wrong effect? God has four people recount the life of his incarnate Son, in each case differently and with inconsistencies - but might we not say: It is important that this narrative should not be more than quite averagely historically plausible just so that this should not be taken as the essential, decisive thing? So that the letter should not be believed more strongly than is proper and the spirit may receive its due. I.e. what you are supposed to see cannot be communicated even by the best and most accurate historian; and therefore a mediocre account suffices, is even to be preferred. For that too can tell you what you are supposed to be told. (Roughly in the way a mediocre stage set can be better than a sophisticated one, painted trees better than real ones, - because these might distract from what matters).''; 14/9/25, 7:10 am
Eva Marie ने कहा…: If she were saying WE have to test our belief in God to keep ourselves moral, that would be one thing. But to say God has to do this or that doesn’t make sense. If you believe in God, that is.; 14/9/25, 7:20 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: You believe in God because the religion stays in line with phenomenological morality. If you continue to believe in God when the religion no longer does, then you fall into the situation that she wants to avoid. She keeps God worthy of respect by keeping him in line with morality.; 14/9/25, 7:24 am
Eva Marie ने कहा…: Bottom line is this: A belief in God, by definition, brings uncertainty into a person’s thought process. Because you can never be 100% sure that your beliefs are in line Gid.; 14/9/25, 7:25 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: I posted an intervening Wittgenstein quote on the same thing which has automatically disappeared into a spam folder. It may reappear soon or may not, in its proper sequence.; 14/9/25, 7:27 am
Eva Marie ने कहा…: If you believe in God then God IS morality. She wants to make God small and herself big, which is her prerogative, it just doesn’t have anything to do with the nature of a belief in God.; 14/9/25, 7:30 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: Bottom line is that religion is an allegory that produces social truths about morality, and that's why it's there and is appealing.

It comes with language coming, or actually with literary effects of language.

"When there was as yet no shrub of the field upon earth, and as yet no grasses of the field had sprouted, because Yahweh had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to till the soil, but a flow welled up from the ground and watered the whole surface of the earth, then Yahweh molded Adam from the earth's dust (adamah), and blew into the nostrils the breath of life, and Adam became a living being."

Not a coincidence, life appeared at the first literary effect, "breath of life." The religious texts know more about their structure than is generally noticed.; 14/9/25, 7:32 am
planetgeo ने कहा…: If antifa was really against fascists, they'd be shooting each other. Prove me wrong.; 14/9/25, 7:34 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: I'd say that the literary critic has a stronger belief in God than a believer, because there's something solid behind it. It's not a sky-daddy thing.

Harold Bloom has a few books on God. The Book of J, The American Religion, and another one I can't think of at the moment.; 14/9/25, 7:37 am
Big Mike ने कहा…: Gadfly is an Antifa apologist. He would have done the same for John Wilkes Booth.

@chickelit, wonderful! You perfectly summarized that a**hole in just 15 words!; 14/9/25, 7:38 am
Eva Marie ने कहा…: “I'd say that the literary critic has a stronger belief in God than a believer, because there's something solid behind it. It's not a sky-daddy thing.”
I’m so sorry but this doesn’t make sense - assuming the literary critic is a nonbeliever.
How can a nonbeliever - someone who does not believe in God - have a stronger belief in God? You gotta know some highfalutin words to hide the illogic of that statement.; 14/9/25, 7:52 am
Michael McNeil ने कहा…: There was a 200+ comment posting a day or two ago which early-on was left switched to italics, but nobody turned them back off during the course of the thread. The reason was probably that it was a comment that initially went into the Blogger spam folder that left the italics turned on, and it wasn't initially present (being in the spam folder), only to—when released by Althouse—semi-sabotage the whole thread (up to the 200th) after it appeared.

If posters want to prevent that from retroactively happening to their comment(s) as well as protect everyone else posting after them, simply start such a post with a couple of close-italics html commands, then enter your text, to wit:

</i></i>text…; 14/9/25, 7:55 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: The literary critic knows the place that God holds is solid, not a whim belief of a flighty female, because literary effects are solid.; 14/9/25, 8:03 am
n.n ने कहा…: Faith is a logical domain common to all religions (i.e. behavioral protocol or model), secular and otherwise. Who or what do you trust? Yourself? Experts? Government? Science is a philosophy and practice in the near-domain.; 14/9/25, 8:06 am
Kakistocracy ने कहा…: Whether it’s Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade advocating killing homeless people by “involuntary lethal injection” or MSNBC’s Matthew Dowd bringing up things that Charlie Kirk said, both networks have crossed the boundaries of decency.; 14/9/25, 8:09 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: Here's atheist Jacques Derrida giving a talk on prayer (watch till about minute 28). I wonder if you can notice the seriousness with which he talks about it, and the occasionally strikingly apt characterizations.

He has a large number of sympathetic essays on religion.; 14/9/25, 8:10 am
Jamie ने कहा…: She's saying that God has to stay in line with phenomenological morality, and testing God against that constantly is what keeps the religion moral.

Her god certainly does. "Phenomenological morality" is determining what is moral by how you, in your lived experience (ugh), feel about it. Gauging God by that standard means that your feelings determine whether God is leading you down a good or a bad path - assuming you believe in this god who is subject to your feelings.

I suppose I can see why rhhardin would (apparently) espouse this view right now; it feels terrible to try to love your enemies (which is of course only and specifically a Christian moral doctrine) in the wake of their murder of an important moral figure, and boy, several people on this blog have loudly and repeatedly rejected that path out of hand. But to say "religion is only valid insofar as it validates your feelings" and "God is only moral insofar as you feel He is" is to build your house on sand, as the New Atheists discovered when they tried to establish an "objective" standard of morality so they wouldn't have to say, "Because I said so, all right?!"; 14/9/25, 8:11 am
narciso ने कहा…: there is arrogance among the atheist, that God doesn't exist, and this is how we started sliding down since 1961, ymmv; 14/9/25, 8:13 am
Michael McNeil ने कहा…: The Byzantine “Year of the Cosmos” differs substantially from the modern Jewish-calendar year because modern scholarship found that the Septuagint wasn't as accurate a translation of the Jewish Hebrew Bible as people believed in antiquity.; 14/9/25, 8:13 am
narciso ने कहा…: I spelled out where so called Antifa came from, both here and abroad, there will be a quiz; 14/9/25, 8:14 am
narciso ने कहा…: perhaps but derrida, faurisson, before them heidegger, all denied objective reality, for their own purposes,; 14/9/25, 8:16 am
narciso ने कहा…: we know why heidegger a former nazi apparatchik, who studied at the Frankfurt school, ironically,; 14/9/25, 8:18 am
Achilles ने कहा…: rhhardin said...

Tyrus isn't in favor of shooting Kirk but is unwilling to be swept up in the all or nothing movement linked to the soap opera about his family tragedy, because the God first movement history is instability towards tyranny.

Other than saying it was OK to shoot Kirk because religion leads to tyranny I cannot wait to take apart the rest of this post.

I am an Agnostic.

I put atheists at the bottom of the pile. They are objectively the worst, most violent, arrogant people in the world. This post highlights that.

Atheists must go through a reformation just as much as Muslims. They are sick.; 14/9/25, 8:18 am
Achilles ने कहा…: Kakistocracy said...

Whether it’s Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade advocating killing homeless people by “involuntary lethal injection” or MSNBC’s Matthew Dowd bringing up things that Charlie Kirk said, both networks have crossed the boundaries of decency.

Post quotes you murderous piece of shit.

Chuck is openly calling for people to kill Brian Kilmeade now.

I know that you cannot really ban him Ann. But this poster's computer information needs to be forwarded to the FBI.; 14/9/25, 8:21 am
narciso ने कहा…: God gets it wrong, do you here yourself

Tyrus (nee George Murdoch) because of his own background, was skeptical of Charlie's Method, but not the goal; 14/9/25, 8:24 am
Kakistocracy ने कहा…: "What's going on in London is pretty neat. Who was the next to fall to the Epstein scandal?"

Trump's visit will be an opportunity for Starmer to be even more depressing.

Hoping that Trump's state visit will reinvigorate Starmer's fortunes is wishful thinking. First he invites Mr Trump for the second time in the hope of flattering Trump to the point where he will consider the UK relevant.

Then he appoints Mandelson as ambassador bearing in mind that both Mandelson and Trump had an intimate relationship with Epstein.

How have people not put this together yet. Starmer sending Mandelson to Washington wasn’t a lapse in judgement. Mandelson and Trump likely knew each other through Epstein.; 14/9/25, 8:25 am
narciso ने कहा…: is there a mongoose in the house,; 14/9/25, 8:25 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: A God-based movement will acquire leaders who know God's will, which is instant tyranny.; 14/9/25, 8:28 am
narciso ने कहा…: CS Lewis remarked this is the crucial question, 'whether Jesus died and was resurrected' if not all is for naught'; 14/9/25, 8:28 am
Kakistocracy ने कहा…: Was Charlie Kirk the right's Martin Luther King, or its Jesus Christ?; 14/9/25, 8:29 am
Kakistocracy ने कहा…: ↑ Odin if you ask Kash Patel..; 14/9/25, 8:30 am
narciso ने कहा…: 'even the demons believe' no, you can choose to be foolish and yet face the eternal consequences,

Jonathan Cahn surmises it was Nietsche's worship of Dionysus that led to adopt chaos as his motto; 14/9/25, 8:31 am
Inga ने कहा…: “I know that you cannot really ban him Ann. But this poster's computer information needs to be forwarded to the FBI.”

Like when you said you’d like to get your veteran buddies together to do some “wet work” on your political enemies. The hypocrisy and twisted mind set of this guy is astounding.; 14/9/25, 8:34 am
narciso ने कहा…: in this sense, philosophy has become a dead end,; 14/9/25, 8:35 am
Achilles ने कहा…: rhhardin said...

God first gets it backwards. The religion is a allegory for human morality, and a religion feels right to the extent it supports phenomenological human morality. That gets it adherents. Once the knowing-God's-desires dogmatists take over, the link to morality is lost."

Atheists love to make shit up. This is going to be so much fun.

It is clear why rhhardin got so worked up yesterday when the requirement for normative principles was brought up.

rhhardin believes in feelings based morality. He literally believes in soap opera morality. Whatever humans feel that is what Is. All morality has a fundamental origin in human feelings.

When I debate Christians I know that this is rocky ground to tread. If you do not have a supernatural anchor for your system of ethics you get twisted legal social contracts and you inevitably end up with mass graves.

Atheists are very good at justifying killing other people. Atheists have a special knack for subjective moral judgements that make it OK to kill groups they don't like or to steal all of their stuff. They think they are smart because it takes a few more steps than religions that site their god told them to take the other tribe's stuff.

The reason Atheists are way better mass murderers than religious tribes stems from their arrogance.; 14/9/25, 8:38 am
narciso ने कहा…: are all of your friends have been murdering or attempting to since 2017, Kraus, I know you have no shame,; 14/9/25, 8:39 am
Inga ने कहा…: “Was Charlie Kirk the right's Martin Luther King, or its Jesus Christ?’

The extremists on the right have turned this mere human man into some sort of deity. It’s being turned into a spectacle.; 14/9/25, 8:39 am
n.n ने कहा…: A mortal god-based movement will acquire leaders who know the mortal god's will, which is instant tyranny. Thus the democratic/dictatorial duality. What is the solution for ethics dictated by the individual, experts, committee, or government?; 14/9/25, 8:41 am
narciso ने कहा…: from Hodgkinson, forward, this is an old pattern, going back to the late 19th century, from the murderer of Canovas to McKinley,; 14/9/25, 8:42 am
Peachy ने कहा…: The evil Kamal Biden Walz Soros Leftist corrupt evil Democatics inspire HATE and demand RIOTING, death and arson. build antifa-trantifa-rage filled Jihadi.

Vigils and support for Charlie Kirk - that's what we do.; 14/9/25, 8:42 am
narciso ने कहा…: Stalin (who was a fmr Seminarian) Castro who was educated at my alma mater, which he shuttered, Mao, (no particular religious affiliation,; 14/9/25, 8:44 am
Achilles ने कहा…: Inga said...

“I know that you cannot really ban him Ann. But this poster's computer information needs to be forwarded to the FBI.”

Like when you said you’d like to get your veteran buddies together to do some “wet work” on your political enemies. The hypocrisy and twisted mind set of this guy is astounding.

Cry more Inga. Nobody likes you or wants you around.

You think I am evil. I understand you. I know how you feel. I have felt that way for a long time about you. There are millions of us that just wanted to be left alone and you kept pushing. I knew you would force us to this point. I knew you wouldn't ever leave us alone.

But your antics here since the blatant leftist political assassination of Charlie Kirk have done my work for me.

You have succeeded in making everyone else feel the same way I have for a long time. You killed the nicest guy on the right. You celebrated his murder. You tried to blame it on us.

Thank you for proving me right about you. Now everyone else knows. And yes I think the FBI needs to start looking at your associations too. You have called people racist, sexist, fascist, authoritarian and other epithets dishonestly so many times it has to be assumed that you support violent groups that want Republicans dead.; 14/9/25, 8:46 am
rhhardin ने कहा…: Phenomenology is not feelings. It's apt analysis, closer to literary effects. Carving the duck at the joints.; 14/9/25, 8:46 am
n.n ने कहा…: Planned Parenthood/Personhood (PP) to abort lives deemed unworthy of life? That's not novel. Social distancing through substitution of literary or technical terms-of-art is also not novel but a fetus... feature of nominally "secular" religions.; 14/9/25, 8:46 am
n.n ने कहा…: The untempered lived experience is a pathway to progress, an ethical or relativistic religion of equivocal interpretations, typically to justify redistributive change, retributive change, narcissistic pleasures, human rites, etc.; 14/9/25, 8:50 am
Inga ने कहा…: “You have succeeded in making everyone else feel the same way I have for a long time. You killed the nicest guy on the right. You celebrated his murder. You tried to blame it on us.”

I have long thought that you were more than just an extremist, as if that wasn’t bad enough, but it’s become exceedingly evident that you are deeply disturbed.; 14/9/25, 8:55 am
Achilles ने कहा…: Kakistocracy said...

Was Charlie Kirk the right's Martin Luther King, or its Jesus Christ?

MLK is a good one.

Joan of Arc wouldn't be terrible either. Nathan Hale. Joeseph Smith has interesting parallels.

Only a retard would say he was our Jesus Christ though. We aren't stupid godless twats that think government is god.; 14/9/25, 8:55 am
narciso ने कहा…: Charlie thought of himself as a simple believer, who had certain gifts, that he could bring to spreading the gospel in ways that others could not,; 14/9/25, 8:57 am
narciso ने कहा…: there used to be a troll, semanticleo, all though he had many names, actually a lecturer at Pomona college, who infested a good many sites,; 14/9/25, 8:58 am
Peachy ने कहा…: Poor democratic antifa jihadi killer - no one in jail to suck his democratic dick?
No Radicalized Democratic Reddit club - no computer in prison.; 14/9/25, 8:59 am
Curious George ने कहा…: "Inga said...
The extremists on the right have turned this mere human man into some sort of deity. It’s being turned into a spectacle."

We could have gone you and the lefts way and murdered, looted, rioted, and burned.; 14/9/25, 9:00 am
john mosby ने कहा…: FLC: "They've figured out how to weaponize cock-suckers."

I saw Weaponized Cocksuckers when they opened for the Ramones at CBGB's. Not bad. CC, JSM; 14/9/25, 9:02 am
Achilles ने कहा…: rhhardin said...

Phenomenology is not feelings. It's apt analysis, closer to literary effects. Carving the duck at the joints.

Ooh. I have goosebumps.

Do you actually have some normative principles for me?

Or do you just have your feelings bundled up in explanatory words and logic that are completely subjective in nature and changed whenever your logic or the environment or your brain chemistry change?

Do you really believe a series of non-deterministic biochemical reactions can result in a well anchored normative based framework of ethics?

If so, where has this ever happened in the world in all of human history?; 14/9/25, 9:02 am
Achilles ने कहा…: Inga said...

“Was Charlie Kirk the right's Martin Luther King, or its Jesus Christ?’

The extremists on the right have turned this mere human man into some sort of deity. It’s being turned into a spectacle.

You haven't seen a spectacle yet.

A spectacle would be making up a narrative out of whole cloth that Democrats conspired with Russia to frame and impeach the sitting president and to start throwing his supporters in jail.

Except we know that democrats conspired with Russia to frame a sitting president and they did throw his supporters in jail.

The spectacle is going to be removing the violent murderous left from the political space.; 14/9/25, 9:07 am
Peachy ने कहा…: IInga casually forgets that HER PARTY turned a Drug addict with prior criminal arrests into a DIETY. Saint Geroge Floyd’s democratic adherents dutifully burned down whole areas of cities - with Kamala cheering them on using an online account to ask for funds to spring the BLM and Anftia-thugs from jail
Kamala also said of the RIOTING “It’s not going to stop.” Similar vile rhetoric came out of Nancy Pelosi and other prominent democratics in power. All of the rioting caused over a billion dollars in property damage and several people were killed.
Inga is pissed that We do vigils instead of rioting.

Alas Inga- we note you must still visit all the radical leftist sites - your obsession with Paul Pelosi and Jan 6th is cookie cutter leftist MSNBC, right now. Whataboutism. So lame.; 14/9/25, 9:08 am
guitar joe ने कहा…: Achilles: "Chuck is openly calling for people to kill Brian Kilmeade now."

Exactly how? Pretty big jump from his statement to your conclusion. And your call to ban him is just so ridiculous. You post reckless stuff here all the time.; 14/9/25, 9:09 am
Kakistocracy ने कहा…: I never believed that Haitian immigrants were eating people's pets in Springfield, Ohio. But today, in honor of the late Charlie Kirk, I will go online and spread rumors that they are. ~ Achilles 😉; 14/9/25, 9:10 am
wendybar ने कहा…: Inga said...
“Was Charlie Kirk the right's Martin Luther King, or its Jesus Christ?’

The extremists on the right have turned this mere human man into some sort of deity. It’s being turned into a spectacle.

9/14/25, 8:39 AM

Like the left made Obama sorta their GOD??, when what he really was, was THE GREAT DIVIDER??
"Newsweek editor Evan Thomas brought adulation over President Obama's Cairo speech to a whole new level on Friday, declaring on MSNBC: "I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above - above the world, he's sort of God.""
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/evan_thomas_on_obama_hes_sort.html; 14/9/25, 9:10 am
Peachy ने कहा…: Inag - your corrupt evil party built the assassination culture.

You lie about all of it right on Q each and every time. - and desperately spin that all these would-be assassins are not part of your very evil and destructive Corrupt Party.

Inag is MSNBC.; 14/9/25, 9:11 am
Peachy ने कहा…: Kak - You are such a perfect loyalist for your corrupt party.
People did take wild-life out of the park - and probably ate it.
Perhaps you should go riot - for your grief over what you think is a slander. so so so important. Also - have a vigil for Paul Pelosi.

Your party killed Charlie Kirk.; 14/9/25, 9:14 am
guitar joe ने कहा…: “Was Charlie Kirk the right's Martin Luther King, or its Jesus Christ?"

Political assassinations have consequences that the perpetrator(s) didn't anticipate or were to stupid to consider. JFK would likely have been considered a medium weight president with a mixed record. Or a good president who got a lot done. We don't really know. We do know that he was deified by being assassinated.; 14/9/25, 9:15 am
Aggie ने कहा…: ..."The extremists on the right have turned this mere human man into some sort of deity. It’s being turned into a spectacle...."

Extremists? Spectacle? And yet, the 'extremists' have so far refrained from the 'spectacle' of assassinating their political opponents in public, in front of their victim's wife and pre-school children.

Yes, Inga, I include your intolerant and delusional point of view in the same group as the assassin and his intolerant and delusional views. You have reinforced your position your very self, many times, and doubled down - as we can amply see.; 14/9/25, 9:17 am
Peachy ने कहा…: Kirk was a peaceful man and shared his opinions. His love for his country his love for Christ.
That enraged the corrupt vile left.
You will ONLY worship one god - and that is the god of Nancy Pelosi and heinous evil party.

The left lied about Kirk and slandered him with false accusations - the same false accusations the vile left hurl at everyone who refuse to be obey the commands of the radical left.; 14/9/25, 9:19 am
Political Junkie ने कहा…: I thought the Badgers might upset the Crimon Tide in Alabama. Boy was I wrong.; 14/9/25, 9:21 am
Political Junkie ने कहा…: Aggie - Remember, it is "The Dullard", not Inga. In this time of sadness, let us honor the great Doc K.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.; 14/9/25, 9:23 am
Peachy ने कहा…: According to Inga - voicing an opinion counter to hers - is "Extremist."

Inag - did you ever stop to think that YOU are the radical extremist? You parrot leftist talking points to a T.; 14/9/25, 9:27 am
Leland ने कहा…: That’s the thing. Charlie Kirk really wasn’t that important to many people. I know who he was and what was Turning Points, but like Tyrus, I never watched Kirk (never watch Gutfield or Tyrus either). Yet, his relative unimportance didn’t keep him from being assassinated. The lesson is if they’ll Kirk, then they’ll kill anyone. That’s why his assassination also resonates with Iryna’s, because she absolutely was innocent and unimportant, yet brutally murdered. That’s what Andrew’s link above points out.
Your attempt to say the Right is making more out of Charlie Kirk is a deflection from the fact that he mattered too much to the left that they cheered his death. You should be repulsed by the killer, yet you argue in a manner that shows common cause with the killer. We’ve seen this before, which is why the world remembers the name of Luigi Mangione and only the job of the person he killed. The left elevated the killer, and any comment about the victim was twisted into, “but he was the CEO of bad, no good, UHC”. Brian Thompson was a victim of a cold blooded murderer, who had no reason to kill their victim other than simple hatred of them.; 14/9/25, 9:27 am
Peachy ने कहा…: Aggie 9:17
That#; 14/9/25, 9:29 am
Mark ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 14/9/25, 9:29 am
john mosby ने कहा…: guitar joe: " JFK would likely have been considered a medium weight president with a mixed record"

Yes, in a lot of ways, JFK was like first-term Trump (do we have a Trump Is Like JFK tag?). Jumped the political queue with his money, then thought he could rely on the party and professional government establishments to carry out his program. And I'm not talking about assassination conspiracy theories. I just mean the inertia of the military, the obstinacy of Dixiecrats, etc. The one program of his that everyone unhesitatingly jumped on was the space program, because it was a huge military-industrial spending bonanza. Would a non-assassinated JFK have eventually gotten control of the people who were already supposed to submit to their CINC's and party leader's control? Who knows. Would the Civil and Voting Rights Acts have gone through without JFK's bloody shirt for LBJ to wave? And what about Vietnam?

Yeah, probably medium weight and mixed record. Kind of like if Trump had gotten a second continuous term with Pence and all the other unhelpfuls. CC, JSM; 14/9/25, 9:30 am
Eva Marie ने कहा…: I see everybody’s up. Who’s springing for breakfast?; 14/9/25, 9:32 am
Peachy ने कहा…: Inga- YOUR party killed Charlie. Your evil dark party built the Antifa network of radical rage-filled assassins. Like you - the left use lies to miniplate people.
These Democratic party built killers ARE OUT RIGHT NOW - doxxing, harassing, and killing Immigration and Customs officers and police. (on command from the top of the Democratic party)

This is real and it is beyond extremist.

Your notion of extremism - is someone with a different opinion. That really does make you a dullard. and a hivemind tool/fool.

Charlie Kirk died at the hands of leftwing extremism.; 14/9/25, 9:35 am
Peachy ने कहा…: Leland said to Inga - and the left (same toxic soup)

"Your attempt to say the Right is making more out of Charlie Kirk is a deflection from the fact that he mattered too much to the left that they cheered his death. You should be repulsed by the killer, yet you argue in a manner that shows common cause with the killer. "

Indeed.; 14/9/25, 9:38 am
Peachy ने कहा…: We are never going to let CHARLIE KIRK be forgotten.

The vile left demand this leave the news cycle - like every other leftist shit show bomb... skip on by vile leftists.

NO. Not this time.

WE WILL NEVER FORGET CHARLIE KIRK.

Heartless left skip on by after an INEPT loyalist democratic mayor (Soros) dutifully lets a killer roam (14 violent criminal priors)- so he can kill an innocent Ukrainian girl on the train. Collective MSN & MSNBC leftists do not care.
All leftists care about is power for their corrupt team.; 14/9/25, 9:44 am
Curious George ने कहा…: "Political Junkie said...
Aggie - Remember, it is "The Dullard", not Inga. In this time of sadness, let us honor the great Doc K."

That's my invention, not Doc K's. He was fond of calling her a bedpan nurse, or something like that.; 14/9/25, 9:45 am
Curious George ने कहा…: "Leland said...
That’s the thing. Charlie Kirk really wasn’t that important to many people."

Whether you watched him or not he was important. He was responsible for tipping the scales for Trump in getting young people to vote for him, as well as his battleground state get out the vote effort.; 14/9/25, 9:49 am
Achilles ने कहा…: rhhardin said...

Here's atheist Jacques Derrida giving a talk on prayer (watch till about minute 28). I wonder if you can notice the seriousness with which he talks about it, and the occasionally strikingly apt characterizations.

He has a large number of sympathetic essays on religion.

Empathetic. Not sympathetic.

The difference between Christians and Atheists is that Christians are honest. Derrida understands the issue that Christians are trying to bridge a gap, but asserts they are just doing what Derrida does in the end.

Derrida refuses to accept that Atheists are just as much dependent on faith as Christians are. This is the core dishonesty of Atheists and this is why they are such monsters in history. Atheists are just fundamentally dishonest.

Christians developed a concept of a deity that they admit they cannot really understand can only accept through faith

Atheists developed a concept of a miracle that they cannot explain. They said science will explain this miracle as we learn more about life and the universe because Atheists are super smart. But the more we learn about biology in particular the more like a miracle that science cannot explain life appears to be.

They expand this dishonesty into moral and ethical frameworks. That is why we have this filibuster with Derrida.; 14/9/25, 9:51 am
Peachy ने कहा…: Shorter MSNBC left:

'We killed Charlie Kirk with our hate machine - and you are all angry over it?

Why - you're all such extremists. '; 14/9/25, 9:52 am
Political Junkie ने कहा…: CG at 945. Sorry about that. Kudos to you!!!; 14/9/25, 9:53 am
Peachy ने कहा…: Good morning Eva -

Your 10:49 post - thank you.; 14/9/25, 9:54 am
Curious George ने कहा…: "Political Junkie said...
CG at 945. Sorry about that. Kudos to you!!!"

No prob. And to be accurate, it's not "The Dullard" but "our resident dullard.

9/14/25, 9:53 AM; 14/9/25, 9:57 am
Achilles ने कहा…: guitar joe said...

Achilles: "Chuck is openly calling for people to kill Brian Kilmeade now."

Exactly how? Pretty big jump from his statement to your conclusion. And your call to ban him is just so ridiculous. You post reckless stuff here all the time.

1. Chuck says You are advocating for the euthanization of populations
2. There are thousands of people on social media who say that we should kill people that advocate for the euthanization of populations.
3. There are numerous examples of assassinations and attempted assassinations over several decades by people who organized to murder the people Chuck slanders

Anyone with an IQ over 80 sees what is going on here.

Get fucked.; 14/9/25, 10:00 am
Achilles ने कहा…: Eva Marie said...

I see everybody’s up. Who’s springing for breakfast?

Sorry. I went for a run instead. I will be fashionably late to breakfast.; 14/9/25, 10:03 am
Kakistocracy ने कहा…: इस टिप्पणी को लेखक द्वारा हटा दिया गया है.; 14/9/25, 10:13 am

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