What about paying them to not denounce you? Wasn't Trump prosecuted for that?
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"Can you imagine what would happen if politicians started paying for people to endorse them. All hell would break out."
Said Donald Trump, quoted in "Trump demands Kamala Harris, Beyoncé, Oprah be prosecuted over 2024 campaign payouts: 'Totally illegal'" (NY Post).
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It's a legitimate scandal, and would be treated as such if Trump paid for endorsements, but what's the theory that it's criminal? That it's undeclared paid political advertising? Harris probably did declare it in her filings. (Isn't that how we know?)
Couldn’t most of us tell it was artificial while we were watching it? So many tells…
If you found it legitimate you probably think the green jacket ceremony happens in the Butler cabin because Jom Nance says so…
The important distinction is whether the money is campaign funds or pretax (deductible). My understanding is Trump did not deduct the payment from his taxes as a business expense. Kamala would say she had to reimburse her hosts for their expenses else it would be an illegal in-kind contribution to her.
Yes he was LOL.
Harris probably did declare it in her filings.
What if she labeled it "production costs" instead of "endorsement deal"? Like the host says, isn't that exactly what Trump was prosecuted for?
It's different when Trump does it!
@rehajm - I lol'd so hard that I dropped my egg salad sandwich.
I assume this AI licensing agreement is intended to strengthen The New York Times' litigation against OpenAI.
Amazon to Pay New York Times at Least $20 Million a Year in AI Deal ~ WSJ
'The multiyear deal lets Amazon use content from the Times’s news and cooking sections and the Athletic'
Their best defense was the fact that it backfired and gave her a huge disadvantage. Incompetence isn't a crime.
We make other advertisers disclose when a spokesperson is being paid, why does that not (or should it not) apply to political advertising? It's a false representation that the endorsement is based on sincerely held opinion.
Incompetence isn't a crime.
No it's the way most criminals get caught. Like Kamala.
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...isn't that exactly what Trump was prosecuted for?
If that's how it plays out, then yes. But Trump's prosecution was bullshit.
D.D. Driver said...It's different when Trump does it!
Indeed. Trump was prosecuted for it and clowns like you cheered it on.
Flood the zone. No one mentioned Epstein. Be quiet.
@rehajm - I lol'd so hard that I dropped my egg salad sandwich
My apologies- where to reimburse you the $1.50?
Elon pays millions to Trump campaign then gets a "special government employee" job where he was able to push for deregulation in areas relevant to his own interests and companies and then has his own car commercial on the front lawn of the White House.
"Can you imagine what would happen if politicians started paying for people to endorse them.
The candidate with the most campaign funds would win. Right now that would be Republicans. Trump gets no credit for taking a principled stand against something that would benefit him and his party?
There are fundamental category errors going on here, in all directions.
Grok's explainer does the same dancing around the issue that Bragg had to because the only evidence campaign funds might have been used for the payment came from fabulist Michael Cohen, and then he needed some sort of felony to defeat the statute of limitations so he came up with the idea payments made in 2017 influenced an election in 2016.
And if we're going to go down that road, isn't withholding a desired endorsement until payment also a form of extortion?
Paying Beyonce etal. isn't illegal (I am assuming the expenditures were clearly disclosed in FEC filings). What it is, however, is just stupid and incompetent campaign management.
Completely glossing over the fact that she was such a bad candidate that she had to pay people to show up and endorse her…. It’s more effective to publicize that fact than indict her for it.
“ What about paying them to not denounce you? Wasn't Trump prosecuted for that”
I think Trump was prosecuted for a record keeping error, not for the hush money payment. So that is not relevant to paying someone for an endorsement.
What about paying them to not denounce you? Wasn't Trump prosecuted for that?
Are you trying to make a joke Ann? In order for a joke to be funny there has to be a minimum level of truth.
Trump was prosecuted for an accounting entry made by an accountant that labeled a payment to a lawyer. The Democrats said the label for the payment was wrong and changed some laws to prosecute Trump.
The judgement was immediately thrown out on appeal because it was obviously ridiculous and the prosecution was Stalinist evil.
This is not the same thing on any level compared to paying a celebrity for an endorsement. That is FCC campaign contribution law.
Kakistocracy said...
Flood the zone. No one mentioned Epstein. Be quiet.
There is nothing on Trump in the Epstein files. Biden would have released it if there was.
When they are released you will look really fucking stupid again.
he was able to push for deregulation
What areas did Musk push for deregulation. Please be specific.
Because the rest of us were under the assumption he was suggesting cuts to eliminate fraud and waste in government.
Paying someone not to denounce him is the same as paying them to remain neutral. Is that as bad as a secretly paid endorsement?
"Is that as bad as a secretly paid endorsement?"
If Republicans do it, it's bad. If Democrats do it, it's not.
Simple as that.
Achilles:
I think you are being too narrow here:
"Trump was prosecuted for an accounting entry made by an accountant that labeled a payment to a lawyer"
I'm fairly certain it was "legal expenses", which is a broader term that surely includes other things beyond just payments to a lawyer or a law firm. And surely payments for a non-disclosure agreement might fall into that category.
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