Here's the video at YouTube. Judge for yourself. Political theater? Is this about Trump — Trump and his tariffs and his fifty-oneness?
Meanwhile, Trump himself was at The Daytona 500 and — with his lovely tiny little granddaughter — the sports-related masculine political theater was not brutishly macho but nobly patriarchal:
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 7, 2025You can see the hat as it is — large — or you can perceive the optical illusion that Musk is a tiny person, a child. Musk famously tweeted: "I love @realDonaldTrump as much as a straight man can love another man." And I've been thinking the love is a boy's love for the father he never had. Musk real father was — as Musk tells it — "a terrible human being" who has done "almost every evil thing you could possibly think of." The giant hat is a bid to be seen as a boy, to be loved by a father.
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Our dear Nova Scotian friends whom we have sailed with and have many adventures here and there are not coming to Florida this year because of President Trump. They have a very bad case of TDS. At least we aren't fisticuffing.
I would be very surprised if they are fighting over tariffs. It seems far more likely that they’ve been watching too many episodes of Shorsey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0uKJ8OGJ3g
Or maybe it’s just hockey.
My favorite part is the big smile on the face of the American.
The Canadians booed the US national anthem. Usually only Quebec does that.
The banking at Daytona is really steep. It’s kind of a feat to keep that battleship off its roof…
I think ice hockey players were known for fighting long before Donald Trump ever came down the escalator and announced he was running for President.
For the uninitiated there’s a whole A Christmas Story protocol followed before the gloves are dropped. This one was quite civil actually…
The coach for USA, Reggie Dunlop.
Trump’s granddaughter wears her hat like Melania.
Comments on the YouTube video 100% supportive. Hockey at its finest . . . best game ever. One guy who was at the game said the crowd stood and cheered throughout the game.
It must have been a thrill for the drivers to meet Trump.
Sally327 said...
A magazine published a pic of Terry Sawchuk's face with the 400 stitches as if they were all current.
https://www.facebook.com/HistoryInPictures/posts/portrait-of-hockey-goalie-terry-sawchuk-before-face-masks-became-standard-in-196/3345858209010131/
Fight Fight Fight!
Who put that child in a dress on such a windy day? And don't send someone fair-skinned into the sun with bare shoulders. Tush.
The Libs were going bats on social media on Trump "wasting money" doing the flyover at the Daytona 500 and taking a lap. I just replied to a few: Awww, cry more.
"Trump’s granddaughter wears her hat like Melania."
Also reminds me of this from Elon.
I think the hockey players just got juiced up because they booed the Star-Spangled Banner.
My estimation of the Tchachuk brothers is undergoing reconsideration.
Imagine if they had let the Russians play. Then we could have had a throw down for the ages.
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The Canadians booed the US national anthem. Usually only Quebec does that."
The game was in Montreal. Montreal is in Quebec.
"rehajm said...
The banking at Daytona is really steep. It’s kind of a feat to keep that battleship off its roof…"
They didn't go up on the banking. They stayed on the flat apron on the bottom.
I have been in Quebec since the tariff thing, and haven't noticed any animosity, even as I am obviously American spending American dollars. But I generally don't go to Montreal, I stick to rural Quebec, which is quite nice. I think that they limit the size of farms there, so that means farming areas are more heavily populated, and have restaurants, or "restau-bars" you wouldn't see on the American side of the border in farm country. So they are nice places to visit.
Imagine if Trump had dissolved Congress because they were about to remove him from office, the way Trudeau did Canada's parliament. But it's Dreamy McDreamboat we are talking about here, so he's golden.
On Saturday I drove down Southern Blvd in West Palm Beach and saw Air Force One parked there at the airport, and that always gives me a great feeling. On the same errand I ended up driving by the Trump International golf course where that assassination was attempted, and the security seemed a lot tighter to me than it must have been that day.
There was a time that it would have been impossible for the NHL to stock a team of Americans. There just weren’t enough of them.
Pretty sure Trump is paying for those flyovers
I figured it was because the smarmy Canadian crowd booed the Star Spangled Banner. After watching Canada gleefully suffer under Trudeau and his totalitarian COVID policies, who cares? Are the really our "friends"? Or, just neighbors. There's a difference.
"Meanwhile, Trump himself was at The Daytona 500 and — with his lovely tiny little granddaughter — the sports-related masculine political theater was not brutishly macho but nobly patriarchal:"
You never know what women will think. That's because everything ties into their mood.
Kate at SmallDeadAnimals, a western Canadian, says that the reason Canada is so resistant to controlling the border and fentanyl is because Canada has been captured by organized crime, and organized crime controls the ports. The issue isn't the long and sparsely patrolled border, that's impossible to control, the issue is keep the fentanyl out of Canada in the first place at its seaports.
China views the US as the latest avatar of the British Empire, which unleashed opium on them, and in their eyes, well, payback's a bitch.
Same with migrants. They get into Canada through their ports of entry, then sneak across our border. This is within the power of Canadians to control, or at least lessen.
I would figure the toxic masculinity of USA pro hockey players makes the majority of them Trump voters. I think the Obama driven "I'm sorry to be American" years are over. America has figured out its liberal globalist establishment, along with Canada and Europe have been robbing us blind AND looking down their noses at us. The fights were political for booing the Star Spangled Banner. No doubt.
We are NOT apologizing for Trump.
Canada plays the Finns at 1:00 in Boston today. If Canada wins, USA could face them again on Thursday. USA plays Sweden today, but is already in the final. USA better not tank against Sweden tonight. Hockey fans deserve a legitimate matchup in the final.
The Stanley Cup winning Florida Panthers was loaded with Finns. Just saying.
The London Times is probably the worst place to read about a hockey game.
The White left have rage and anger - all stoked by frauds and liars.
And I've been thinking the love is a boy's love for the father he never had. Musk real father was — as Musk tells it — "a terrible human being" who has done "almost every evil thing you could possibly think of." The giant hat is a bid to be seen as a boy, to be loved by a father.
May the Good Lord spare us from future efforts by elderly, left-of-center, women to engage on pop psychology.
If you don't think the fights were about Tarriffs, you don't know much about the NFL and Ice hockey. They're mostly Econ Majors and care deeply about wood pulp and intellectual property rights.
If you watched Musk and Trump together, you can see that Musk is a "Straight man" in both senses of the word.
"That was as organic as it gets.” Jon Cooper, Canada’s coach
No real hockey coach would say that about a fight. No wonder they lost.
We've already seen more of President Trump in public and giving interviews than we did of POTUS Biden in the last 2 1/2 years. But does the Media ever mention this? No. Do they ever thank Trump for answering their questions, off the cuff? No.
I've never watched hockey. I know it gets rough but is this melodramatic throwing off of the gloves and squaring off a thing? While the refs just back away and watch? And finally the refs skate in and intercede and the pugilists just drop the fight, like, "Oh, OK." It indeed looks terribly staged - very WWEish. Realistically, in any other sport, they would both be thrown out of the game (if it weren't staged).
And, y'know, bare knuckle boxing between two guys who are wearing helmets and slipping and sliding around on ice skates is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Tim McGuire said I would be very surprised if they are fighting over tariffs. It seems far more likely that they’ve been watching too many episodes of Shorsey.
I read an interview with one of the Tkachuks, who indicated that the several involved US players had a discussion that morning about how dominant Team Canada has been (26-0 in games in which Sydney Crosby played prior to that game) and how they needed to come out of the gates strong. They decided on that call that all three were going to start a fight to send the message that Team USA wasn't going to give an inch of ice. Effectively, to "set the tone."
So yes, very Shoresy moment.
Canada deserves to lose the tournament because they passed over Washington Capitals goalie Logan Thompson, who has a record of 24-2-5 this season, allowing 2.23 goals oer game. Canada is doing this because Canadian assistant coach Bruce Cassidy hates Logan Thompson. The US is going with Connor Hellebuyck, the best goalie in the world right now.
I know it gets rough but is this melodramatic throwing off of the gloves and squaring off a thing? While the refs just back away and watch? And finally the refs skate in and intercede and the pugilists just drop the fight, like, "Oh, OK."
There is a very well-understood unwritten code in hockey concerning the instigation of fights and the manner in which they are carried out. For example, if one team's enforcer wants to fight another team's enforcer, he doesn't challenge when the other is at the end of a tiring shift, he waits for the next shift.
There is a good book about it - The Code: The Unwritten Rules of Fighting and Retaliation in the NHL, authored in part by Tony Twist and Marty McSorely, two of the toughest guys in the NHL. Available on the Althouse Amazon Portal!
I remember the great Paul Newman movie, Slapstick. That was a great explanation of fighting in hockey. This episode is two brothers fighting over being siblings.
Don't read too much into the giant hat. I recall when the entrepreneurs selling such giant hats apppeared on Shark Tank. The appeal of the giant hats was then and is now best explained by the two words, "GIANT HAT!" The exclamation mark is not optional in that explanation.
As someone living a little north of Canada, I can say fighting has been a hallmark of hockey forever. As one wag said along time ago, “I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out.”
Needs more Hansens
And Strother Martin
John Henry
"That was as organic as it gets.” Jon Cooper, Canada’s coach
No real hockey coach would say that about a fight. No wonder they lost.
He is kind of a doosh, and that is the sort of thing he says.
But his team won the Stanley Cup last year and was in the finals the year before.
I know it gets rough but is this melodramatic throwing off of the gloves and squaring off a thing? While the refs just back away and watch? And finally the refs skate in and intercede and the pugilists just drop the fight, like, "Oh, OK."
Would *you* want to get in between a couple of guys fighting who are willing to punch each other barehanded while they're wearing helmets when *you're* on skates? As long as it's not a total mismatch, they'll wait until the players are starting to tire to break up the fight. The players will usually drop it at that point because- well, they're tired and if they try to get some extra punches in when the linesmen (not the refs) are separating them, they risk getting an additional penalty that would put their team shorthanded.
"I remember the great Paul Newman movie, Slapstick."
Slapshot, maybe?
Two of the three fights involved the Tkachuk brothers. A generation ago, their father, also a competent hockey player, quite regularly picked fights with Canadians a generation ago.
And @Ice Nine, as a former minor-league hockey goaltender, I can assure you the fights are genuine. First of all, even in the minors, the levels of competence on skates are astounding. Even moreso in the NHL. You set your feet right and it's a rather solid fighting stance. The game is inherently violent, because you can have head-on crashes at 50 km/h [30 mph] or higher. Bare-knuckle is the only way to go, because of how the gloves are constructed.
Fist fights are pretty straight-forward and clean, and most refs let them run until they go down on the ice, where they can get dirty and dangerous. Usually a 5-min Major, sometimes 10-min, but Match Misconduct is reserved for intentionally dirty play, like slashing a guy across the face with your stick. An incidental stick in the face gets 2-min for "High-Stick".
I got 5-min once -- goalie penalties are unusual, but we deserve 'em -- some guy speared me [jab in the gut or ribs with the butt end of the stick]. I played baseball too, and used my very stout goalie stick like a baseball bat across his back and shoulder. Dropped him to the ice.
Refs knew I must have had a good reason they hadn't seen, so only 5-min for me, and they guessed correctly for him, so he got 2-min. Also, as is standard, because we goalies get penalties so rarely, another player served time in the box, and I stayed in the crease.
Point is, even in the minors the refs have a pretty good handle on the game, and basic fisticuffs aren't dangerous.
Kicking Canadian ass is like hunting cows: Only a short-fingered vulgarian would boast about it.
In another story about Daytona it mentioned that President Trump hung out with Richard Petty.
That immediately reminded me of Hunter Thompson's book about the 72 election "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail" and another Daytona 500:
In a word, the “Sunshine Special” bombed. The Miami Herald reported — in the same article dominated by the Rubin/Boohoo incident — that Muskie’s trip into “the politics of the past” was considered a failure even by the Senator’s own staff.
Meanwhile, in that same issue of the Herald, right next to the
ugly saga of the “Sunshine Special,” was a photograph of a grinning George Wallace chatting with national champion stock car racer Richard Petty at the Daytona 500, where 98,600 racing fans were treated to "a few Informal remarks” by The Governor, who said he had only come to watch the races and check up on his old friend, Dick Petty — who enjoys the same kind of superhero status in the South that Jean-CIaude Killy has in ski country.
That appearance at the Daytona 500 didn’t cost Wallace a dime, and the AP wire-photo of him and Petty that went to every daily and Sunday newspaper in Florida was worth more to Wallace than his own weight in pure gold . . . and there was also the weight of the 98,600 racing fans, who figure that any friend of Richard Petty’s must sit on both shoulders of God in his spare time. . . .
John Henry
I remember Walt Tkachuk (pronounced Ka-chook) back when I was a serious hockey fan. I remermber him as better than merely competent, a strong defensive-minded center who could score. He was selected for the first Team Canada squad (they played the Soviets in 1972), but declined (per Wikipedia he had to run his summer hockey school). He was replaced by Bobby Clarke, an indication of just how good and highly regarded he was.
I love Trump doing the Daytona thing. He cracks me up.
2025 Superbowl attendance @65m
2025 Daytona 500 attendance @101m
John Henry
Chemistry is everything. When I saw Eichel on the ice with the two Tkachuk brothers, I thought alright here we go. And it was so. I hope Sully sticks with that line.
Bob B said...
“As someone living a little north of Canada…”
I think you just gave away your real life identity, Nick.
I hope mentioning this doesn’t get me put on the naughty list.
Something that seldom gets mentioned is how big NASCAR tracks are. Indy, for example, seats 257m, more than 3 times the biggest football stadium Met Life Stadium.
Las Vegas is 140m and there are a half dozen or more with more than 100m.
A NASCAR track takes up a LOT more room than a football stadium and is much more expensive construction. (Track, garages, fuel storage)
Many only have one big race a year.
Yet, unlike football and other sports venues which are financed at gunpoint by tax money, and are hostages to teams threatening to move and operate at a loss, NASCAR are privately financed and operate at a profit.
Of course, football fans are "The right sort", college educated, upper middle class, cultured etc. They deserve to have someone else finance their venues.
Everybody knows that NASCAR fans are Walmart shopping, overweight, uneducated, hillbilly buffoons.
John Henry
If ever in Charlotte NC, visit the NASCAR Hall of Fame downtown. Great museum. My wife liked it a lot and cares even less about motor sports than I do. I've been twice. Next time I'm in Charlotte, time permitting, I'll go again.
John Henry
The Babylon Bee was even funnier than usual:
Man Finally Realizes Reason People Play Hockey Is You Can Legally Punch A Canadian In The Face.
Do Quebeckers really boo the US national anthem? I thought Public Enemy #1 for them was les Anglais.
Canadians, who have been schtupped for years by Trudeau are angry at Trump for trying to nudge them back to an upright position. But...haawkey, eh? I do love hockey- and that was a great game.
About Trump being at Nascar with his granddaughter -- honestly the Trump family is made of sterner stuff. Two prior known assassination attempts and Trump is currently making a lot of enemies. It would certainly give me pause as a parent about sending my daughter out with her granddad. I know the chance is remote, but not sure I could get out of my head the possibility of my daughter seeing her granddad shot/killed or god forbid she gets shot/killed. I know courage is needed and you have to show you aren't afraid, but damn I can hear my wife in my head saying she would never, ever take that chance.
I am glad they are courageous. I feel like that was completely overlooked in the comments so far.
The game was in Montreal. Montreal is in Quebec
No kidding…my point being it wasn’t only Canadiens fans at the game…
They didn't go up on the banking. They stayed on the flat apron on the bottom.
Thirty seconds on the internet would have prevented you from this error. True they went to the apron in the corners but they drove on the track in the straights, not the apron, where there’s plenty of pitch. Having walked it I can say it is quite steep. The internet says 18 degrees and 31 in the corners…
I haven't followed NASCAR for several years, but I lucked into seeing the last 8 laps of the race.
It was quite exciting with several big pileups, but what I noticed was the camerawork. The wreck footage was simply amazing on the big TV. Far, far better than the last time I watched. I don't know how they got some of the shots. Drones? Skycams?
Anyway, much better visual entertainment than that cat cartoon or them skater boys.
Shades of Ogie Oglethorpe & the Hansen Bros. "Old Time Hockey! YEAH!!!" Reggie: "Jesus".
Never been inside, but the height and angle of those banked curves are something to see.
Not in this case, but a lot of times the fighting in hockey is to protect the high value, high skill players from getting hammered at every opportunity by larger, lower skilled, more expendable players. Also to make them think twice before messing with your goalie, and also, third and quite common reason, is to get your team amped up, especially when a smaller guy on your team takes on a larger troublemaker, even if he gets the worst of it, it's leadership.
Make America Gay Again... beautiful children.
I hear that Team USA is suiting up the Eagles D-Line for the next match.
Kicking Canadian ass at hockey has never been easy. And up until this century it hasn't been easy in the more serious arena of war. They got their own beach at D-Day. Read an interesting article that described the Canadians as the Prussians of North America . The author made a pretty strong case, for their martial virtues while lamenting their 21st century decline.
But his team won the Stanley Cup last year and was in the finals the year before.
Tampa Bay last won the Cup in 2021.
The hockey "enforcer" is a relic of the past in the NHL. Outside of Toronto's Ryan Reaves and Matt Rempe of the Rangers, the good teams don't carry guys that can't play elite hockey.
Kicking Canadian ass at hockey has never been easy. And up until this century it hasn't been easy in the more serious arena of war.
They won immortal glory at Vimy Ridge during World War I. They were also important to the great battles of Passchendaele, where my own grandfather also fought in the trenches, and Amiens. In World War II, apart from the assault on Juno Beach on D-Day, they punched above their weight in the Dieppe Raid and at sea in the Battle of the Atlantic.
The likes of Justin Turdeau are unfit to shine the shoes of those great Canadians.
I know the chance is remote, but not sure I could get out of my head the possibility of my daughter seeing her granddad shot/killed or god forbid she gets shot/killed. I know courage is needed and you have to show you aren't afraid, but damn I can hear my wife in my head saying she would never, ever take that chance.
Then out spake brave Horatius, the Captain of the Gate:
"To every man upon this earth, Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better, than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods?"
The Babylon Bee catches the man's view of the Musk and child situation:
Is Elon Musk The Father Of Your Child? Signs To Look For
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