३० ऑक्टोबर, २०२४

Criticizing the mayor's "All Chicagoans" mode: How do you decide when to dispense with specificity.

I was sent that by someone who said, "Something that looked this much like a hate crime against a black person would not be answered with a statement that is equivalent to saying all lives matter."

Background: "Jewish leaders demand hate crime charges after man shot on way to synagogue" (Fox 32 Chicago)("Police returned fire and wounded 22-year old Sidi Mohamed Abdallahi, now charged with multiple counts of attempted murder, aggravated discharge of a firearm, and aggravated battery but not a hate crime. The victim, an Orthodox Jew, wore traditional Jewish clothing at the time of the shooting").

And the shooter yelled something — something the police don't want to say:

११४ टिप्पण्या:

wild chicken म्हणाले...

Who was that pathetic manlet in the big hat

AMDG म्हणाले...

Well, I am pretty sure the alleged assailant of unknown immigration status, nationality, and religion did not shout “this is MAGA country”.

Political Junkie म्हणाले...

We all know what is going on. As Tucker said, truth needs to be stated. Civilization Dies in Darkness.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

He's denying Jews their oppression card and muslim-bashers their material.

mikee म्हणाले...

I'd suggest waiting until the investigation has some data before jumping to conclusions. The victim & perp may have prior history. There may be an unknown connection between them. One or both might be simple criminals engaged in their business. There could be a third party instigating the actions of the gunman, who acted as a mere pawn. Could have been attempted suicide by cop. Or maybe it was indeed selection of a random Jewish person for attack by a Muslim fanatic. Time will tell.

That this doesn't serve the social media and news narrative of the moment is just too damn bad.

Gerda Sprinchorn म्हणाले...

Well?

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

Sorry Jews, you lost a position in the victim hierarchy when you weren't looking. You are now beneath blacks and Muslims but remain above Indians, Asians, and furries. Keep your heads on a swivel, Armenians are hot on your tail.

Iman म्हणाले...

MAGA Country!

Disparity of Cult म्हणाले...

The first speaker, the chief of police, was the longtime P.E. instructor at the police academy.

Curious George म्हणाले...

I'll take indeed.

Dixcus म्हणाले...

Jews overwhelmingly vote Democrat. My supply of empathy for them is exhausted when they get what they voted for.

gspencer म्हणाले...

Rule that trumps all others: Say nothing that will diminish the greatness of Islam, Big Mo or Muslims and their practices and beliefs.

The Middle Coast म्हणाले...

I used to go to church in that neighborhood. It’s full of people to want to live in peace. I can’t figure out the shooter — he lived on 115th street (far south), would have needed to take a bus to 95th to catch the Red line to 6800 north, then taken a bus west to get to that neighborhood. A lot of effort for a random guy to shoot a random guy.

rehajm म्हणाले...

The violence is unacceptable but they are all Democrats first now, aren't' they?

Amadeus 48 म्हणाले...

Hmmm...something doesn't seem right. But a lot of things don't seem right in Chicago.

Compare with the Southport perpetrator in the UK. Until this week police there sat on the fact that the perp had Al Qaeda manuals at his residence when he attacked and killed three little girls at a dancing class. They arrested him on July 29. Riots followed, and UK citizens are being put in jail for thoughtcrimes.

rehajm म्हणाले...

We only get to see the manifestos when its politically expedient, too...

Rocco म्हणाले...

His motives remain a mystery.

Lilly, a dog म्हणाले...

He said something about a Snackbar.

The Middle Coast म्हणाले...

Ok, the police said they are still working on determining the shooter’s address. First report from police was 115th street. Somewhere closer to Devon Avenue (abt 10 blocks away), a heavily south Asian neighborhood, would be my guess.

Achilles म्हणाले...

The current Regime is just trying to take us back to where we were before the United States was formed as a country.

This is the norm for ruling elites throughout history.

n.n म्हणाले...

Unless it was in defense of Fentanyl-induced respiratory collapse, Sino-Fauci commerce, [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform, and the billion dollar Diversity Industrial Complex (DIC), [Bambino] (at any age) Lives don't Matter. We need reasonable "machete" control. American Civil Liberties Unburdened

Dogma and Pony Show म्हणाले...

Have you no empathy for the millions of Jews who DON'T vote democrat?

Aggie म्हणाले...

It's almost as if there's another one of them thingies, whaddaya calls them, Double Standard ! We'll never know for sure what the motive was, I guess.

n.n म्हणाले...

The Jews will not stage nationwide insurrections. #JLM

n.n म्हणाले...

What does the Person of Orange (PoO) think? DEI/DIE/IED boom! American Civil Liberties Unburdened

Aggie म्हणाले...

...and something about wanting all of them.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

The Democrats have looked at polls that tell them they can embrace antisemites and antisemitism, yet still keep all or neatly all of the Jewish voters in their coalition. We shall see, but I suspect that they may be right.

Black people living in Chicago did not much like it when Mayor Johnson took resources away from the black community to take care of illegal immigrants, but they aren’t going to vote Republican now or ever in protest, and Johnson knows it. This is more of the same.

gspencer म्हणाले...

Maybe it's medical. Maybe a case of Islamitis. A lot of that going around.

n.n म्हणाले...

Chicago is infamous for black mortality inside the womb and outside the room where Black Lives Matter. JLM is an empathetic gesture toward Diversity (i.e. class, color blocs), Equity, and Inclusion progress.

Inga म्हणाले...

Sounds like a hate crime.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Ice Nine म्हणाले...

William of Ockham would like a word with you.

n.n म्हणाले...

The double-edged scalpel of hate crime classification bears forward-looking risk. Abort.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U म्हणाले...

This. ***Democrats first, obedience first, narratives first, lies and cover-up first.

Michael Fitzgerald म्हणाले...

Allah Akbar. That's what he said, cowards. The shooter was a black Muslim attacking an innocent white Jew, so naturally it's against the law to state plain facts because it might make a black feel bad. So let's all applaud law enforcement as they kowtow to the feelings of illegal aliens and criminals of color.

Ambrose म्हणाले...

All Chicagoans Matter. Fighting words just a year or two ago.

Maynard म्हणाले...

Devon Avenue is 6400 North. It was a Jewish neighborhood in the 50's and an Indian neighborhood in the 90's. I have not been back there in over 30 years, but I suspect that it is still largely an immigrant neighborhood.

Michael Fitzgerald म्हणाले...

They're are refusing to state simple facts because of Democrat Party politics.

Michael Fitzgerald म्हणाले...

Shit take when the police are refusing to confirm information that is known, has been widely confirmed by video. The refusal to confirm a known fact has nothing to do with not being sure of the facts, and everything to do with protecting the feelings of Muslims, blacks, and illegal aliens, and the politics of Democrat Party members.

Laughing Fox म्हणाले...

Like most religions, Judaism has both "social" members, and authentic members (who actually follow the religion). The authentics don't "overwhelmingly vote Democrat."

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Brandon Johnson's press conferences are classic entertainment. The unqualified arrogance is awesome. We all know what Democrats who run Chicago are all about. Kick backs from the corrupt Chicago Teachers Union in #1. I lived in Chicagoland for 37 years before moving back to SE WI.

I still miss the pizza, Italian Beefs, and all the kick ass burrito joints. Thank God for Portillo's in Brookfield. There is one in Madison as well professor.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Hitler wouldn't have called this a hate crime.

mindnumbrobot म्हणाले...

While I agree, I believe the issue is the double-standard applied to such crimes.

n.n म्हणाले...

A Pro-Choice religious (i.e. selective, opportunistic, "=") establishment or a reconciliation of human, individual lives under the rule of community contract/law?

Drago म्हणाले...

The pro-hamas party suckup speaks!

Iman म्हणाले...

What would Farrakhan do?

One Fine Day म्हणाले...

Devon is still the place to get top-notch Indian food. And just down the street from what we used to refer to as Little India, cross one street (can't recall which) and you are immediately in a suburb of Jerusalem, but with snow and no Pallies. "South Asia" - both Hindu and Muslim - butts right up against the shetetl right there.

Paul म्हणाले...

"All Chicagoans deserve to feel safe and protected"... what a joke statement. He said 'feel'.. he did not say they deserve TO BE SAFE AND PROTECTED. Just another politician who does not give a shit.

As for not mentioning the hate crime... again just another politician who does not give a shit.

Meanwhile the same Mayor has bodyguards... all cops and ex-cops.

Drago म्हणाले...

Remember, P-Inga went ALL IN on the hilariously obvious and transparent lies of the Jussie Smollett hoax!

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

The Chicagoland north shore Jewish money still supports Democrats.

Keith म्हणाले...

Dixcus and laughing black - Jews who live Judaism - Torah observant Judaism — any jew who can be recognized as a Jew (eg yarmulke in public) is socially conservative and nearly certainly - I’d be minimum 90 percent - voting republican. Additionally because reform movement and less religious movements do not follow Jewish lineage principles - we estimate probably around if not more than half of them are not actually even Jewish.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Let the right ones in.

Kathryn51 म्हणाले...

A year ago, Mayor had no problem claiming that the murder of a Palestinian was a hate crime - with no evidence.

Dixcus म्हणाले...

They've tried to murder Donald Trump twice. I'd be deathly afraid to state facts too, with the murderous junta who controls the United States right now.

Dixcus म्हणाले...

There aren't "millions of Jews who don't vote Democrat."

Temujin म्हणाले...

Brandon Johnson is the worst mayor in a city that has spent the last few decades rolling out consistently awful mayors. Johnson is a moron. If any of you had heard him going into the election that he won, you could only have wondered just what is going on in Chicago. (as we are wondering now about people who have heard, and are still voting for Kamala Harris).

Brandon Johnson is a perfect example of the mediocre level of people we have mistakenly put into leadership positions, then expect them to suddenly cease being mediocre at what they do.

Remember this when you think of voting for Kamala Harris. What you have seen is exactly what it'll be like if she gets in. It will not get better. This is her at her best. Such is her level of mediocrity.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

A comedian makes a joke and it's proof that half the country are garbage people and Nazis.
But this shooter's words cannot be reported because it would be unfair to the other Muslims in America.

Dixcus म्हणाले...

There are 7.5 million Jews in the United States and they voted 80% Democrat in the last election. So there aren't IN FACT "millions" of Jews that don't vote Democrat.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

He spent $80,000 of city money remodeling his wife's office and then got pissed at the press conference when asked about it.

RCOCEAN II म्हणाले...

So what are Jews anyway? A race? A religion? An ethnic group?

Other white ethnics, like say German Americans don't get special protection. Neither do specfic Christian groups like say white Catholics. Yet some reason ONE white ethnic group gets special protection. In fact, some Jews are stating they are NOT White, but a different Racial category! Which is unscientific.

And why is this one small group, constantly demanding, and I mean DEMANDING, all of the rest of care everytime one of their group is harmed or threatened anywhere in the world. Or demanding censorship and punishment for anyone who points that out?

I suppose if Non-Jews want to go along with Jewish Priviliage, you cant blame Jews for taking advantage of it. But its very weird.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Brandon Johnson makes Beetlejuice look good. The guy is a moron.

hombre म्हणाले...

Black people think only black people and Palestinians, who they mistakenly believe are some form of black people, can be victims of hate crime.

hombre म्हणाले...
ब्लॉग प्रशासकाने ही टिप्पण्णी हटविली आहे.
Rusty म्हणाले...

Well, yeah. They don't have to deal with crime.

Rosalyn C. म्हणाले...

He’s denying a Jihadi his due credit. Imagine how embarrassing and frustrating to go through all that trouble to attack a Jew and declare Allahu Akbar and dim wits don’t acknowledge you?
Have you no sympathy for a true believer?

Michael Fitzgerald म्हणाले...

Bingo. But we'd all know it if he did.

hombre म्हणाले...

"Jewish Priviliage (sic.)." This, because RC knows Jews have never been persecuted or discriminated against. Also, there are no other groups making the types of demands to which he refers. /s

mikeski म्हणाले...

Don't forget LGBTXYZM-O-U-S-E. Those folks, excuse me, folx, are right up there in the stack.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

Was the perp an illegal alien?

mikeski म्हणाले...

The next one at the microphone was going to be in a wheelchair, then a drag queen to close the show.

Michael Fitzgerald म्हणाले...

If there be Hate Crimes, then this was one.

Michael Fitzgerald म्हणाले...

Iman
What would Farrakhan do?
10/30/24, 9:29 AM
Buy the shooter a drink?

mikeski म्हणाले...

And something about an aloe plant.

Rusty म्हणाले...

We also know he wasn't white.

Rusty म्हणाले...

I'm with you, Mike. The officers working this are going to be going slow making sure they do everything right.

mikeski म्हणाले...

I was told - by Phil Collins, no less - that it's no fun being one.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U म्हणाले...

Chicago mob = what the corrupt left want to do to all of us.

Mr. T. म्हणाले...

It looks like, sounds like, and is a hate crime. Except it was against Jews so it's not because that's what your side says.

"Apart from "All Jews Must Die!" and "Glory to our martyrs."

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U म्हणाले...

In Britain - the deal the left made with Islamic Immigrants? Vote for the us, we will look the other way when you commit crimes. True Story.

The Vault Dweller म्हणाले...

I am very much against Hate Crime Legislation. I think when we started passing hate crime legislation 25 or so years ago it was a huge mistake. It encourages tribalism along smaller group-identities and diminishes a larger more unifying American identity. It also shifts the focus away from the crime itself to the criminal's feelings or beliefs. Criminal justice ought focus on the bad act itself, because in a free society criminal laws punish bad actions not bad thoughts.

All that being said, if hate crime laws exist they must be applied equally. And if hate crime charges are not going to be brought the police need to give all the information they have and explain why it doesn't qualify as a hate crime. Because on it's face it definitely looks very possible it was a hate crime. Was the criminal shouting "Allahu Ackbar," was it "From the river to the sea?" Are higher ups in the Police department and the mayor's administration worried it will make the Pro-Palestinian contingent look bad because they appear to have shared beliefs or motivations? Well too bad. Once hate crime legislation makes motivation an element of the crime then the public deserves to know the motivation. Selective non-enforcement of hate crime legislation breeds distrust and societal division. Several years ago, also in Chicago, there was a white special needs teenager who was kidnapped by a group of four black youths. They recorded themselves mocking, humiliating, and physically assaulting the special needs kid. The Chicago police again refused to bring hate crime charges in that case. If hate crime laws are going to exist it cannot be special protections for me and not for thee.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U म्हणाले...

This is the same dishonest cult culture, lying media/Democrat Party lie machine - who pushed the Jussie Smolette LIE.

Inga म्हणाले...

The majority of American Jews vote Democratic. Doesn’t fit your narrative.

DanTheMan म्हणाले...

"Some people did something." - Rep Ilhan Omar, D-Hamas

Inga म्हणाले...

LIAR. I never opined on the Jussie Smollett Case. Why are you such a liar?

narciso म्हणाले...

Much like the sourhport stabber with al queda ties

Disparity of Cult म्हणाले...

Ah yes, Devon Avenue. I remember a Turkish deli without burek, that suggested the nearby Georgian bakery. Touhy Avenue (7200 N) has a highly visible community of observant Jews.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

You have to be white to get charged with a hate crime or even accused of one.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U म्हणाले...

Depends who you hate- right leftists?

Rocco म्हणाले...

Yancey Ward said...
You have to be white to get charged with a hate crime or even accused of one.

White Privilege

stlcdr म्हणाले...

Curious George
I'll take indeed.
10/30/24, 8:31 AM


"...for 100 please, Alex"

Quaestor म्हणाले...

Every "hate crime" law and legal penumbra ought to be abolished or repealed. They've done nothing to make us safer or happier. On the contrary, hate crime laws engender hatred. Hate crime legislation was designed by grievance mongers and social revolutionaries to inflame hatred between communities, ethnic groups, a political persuasions. When a so-called hate crime is charged many people who have no connection to the alleged victim or the accused other than some remote point of commonality such as skin color or party affiliation feel invited to consider themselves equalled harmed or equally in jeopardy. Hate crime is confined by definition to hatreds between communities, and thereby inevitably pits one community against another rather than just the accused against the state. Hate crime laws call on juries to perform a metaphysically absurd task, to inhabit the soul of the defendant and find it consumed by execration and malice, not against the alleged victim alone but against his community.

There is no morally defensible reason to reconvene the Nuremberg Tribunal whenever a white cop shoots a black teenager or a Muslim assaults a Jew. Let the manifest deed be sufficient unto itself and sufficiently punished no more or less harshly than when brothers come to blows.

"Use every man after his desert, and who should 'scape whipping? Use them after your own honour and dignity. The less they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty."

Skipper म्हणाले...

Who's giving the orders? Kamala?

NMObjectivist म्हणाले...

We no longer have a real media. But we have good blogs. Many many of them.

Leland म्हणाले...

It seems the Mayor sees all Chicagoans as fine people, including the murderers and victims combined.

EdwdLny म्हणाले...

So another day in a 3rd world turd bucket run by and fortified by an ignorant fascist democrat. I apologize for repeating myself. Because this isn't an aberration, it is commonplace and in democrat circles accepted as normal and acceptable. The crime committed, the specifics of the victim , the unacknowledged specifics of the perpetrator are all accepted as normal and are commonplace even without acknowledgement. Denial of reality by the left notwithstanding. The official approach to this crime is an indictment to the ignorance and stupidity of the left. What a bunch of abhorrent shits.

Rusty म्हणाले...

Not any more they're not. You've cured them of that little foible.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U म्हणाले...

I-nag - Well They shouldn't. Considering all the shady funding democrats funnel to Iran. Jews need to wake up.

Butkus51 म्हणाले...

Some "thing" happened.

Ampersand म्हणाले...

What really worries me about Islamic terror is the risk that people will become Islamophobes.

Wa St Blogger म्हणाले...

A life both does or does not matter. You will only know when the box is opened and we see its victim hierarchy.

Iman म्हणाले...

If he drank, he would… no doubt!

Iman म्हणाले...

Lilly…😆

Iman म्हणाले...

Smells like an act of a terrorist.

Former Illinois resident म्हणाले...

Under incompetent Marxist-nincompoop Mayor Johnson, disagreeably known as "Conehead", Chicago has gone from simply forlorn to major disaster zone.

Shooter was quite obvious in his anti-Semitic language while firing a weapon at kippah-wearing Orthodox Jewish man on way to temple.

Former Illinois resident म्हणाले...

CPD Superintendent, best known for his Don Juan tendencies while teaching at CPD academy, not known to have street cop experience.

Former Illinois resident म्हणाले...

West Rodgers Park population now skews towards primarily Hindu-Pakistani immigrants, with a substantial number of African immigrants too, not necessarily of legal status persuasion. Lots of street-crime now. Daily shootings.

Former Illinois resident म्हणाले...

In mid-2024, Chicago Trib reported Mayor Johnson spent more than $35,000 on hair and grooming alone, not counting wardrobe. He also has a 150-officer personal protection unit, Chicago cops taken from street duty to serve as his bodyguard army. Spend some time on Second City Cop blog site for accurate assessment of Chicago's terrible situation.

Danno म्हणाले...

Being that the police won't say but others are saying, it is pretty clear what was said. Sump'em about all come to the snackbar as was said above.

Lazarus म्हणाले...

A mayor has to do both -- has to denounce violence against any citizen and denounce violence against the specific group attacked.

Christopher B म्हणाले...

I heard there was a Hawaiin greeting.

Drago म्हणाले...

Channeling Norm McDonald!

Drago म्हणाले...

The majority of American Jews are just culturally Jewish and/or non-practicing Jews.

Practicing Jews and Orthodox Jews do not vote in the same patterns at all.

Dr.Bunkypotatohead म्हणाले...

It doesn't seem the shooter was an illegal. So it's all good.

Cappy म्हणाले...

Motive unknown my ass.