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"Fate has presented Ms. Harris the rarest of political opportunities: to start a presidential campaign in the summer of an election year as a fresh, all-but-anointed candidate free to present her vision to all voters, not just to her own party."

From "What Harris needs to do, now, to win" by The Editorial Board of The Washington Post.

"Fate." You can call it fate, but I think human beings connived on a grand scale, out of our view. It's like calling a sleight of hand performance "magic." Even worse, really, though, because at a "magic" show, you have a chance to look closely and figure out how it's done. If it were off stage, it wouldn't be anything at all. 

But enough of this distraction with the word "fate." Let's look at that rare opportunity that has arrived for Ms. Harris. She is "free to present her vision to all voters, not just to her own party." She didn't have to go through the phase of winning with primary voters, then readjusting to appeal to "all voters"... and by "all voters," what is meant is a majority of the voters in the swing states. She can invent the version of herself that suits a precise sliver of Americans — the waverers of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. (I'm in this sliver myself, by odd chance... fate.)

The Editors recommend:
A clean break from Bidenism would be a mistake.... Amid much activist mockery... Mr. Biden built a coalition of liberals, voters of color, moderates and ex-Republicans. In the White House, Mr. Biden’s approach helped get substantial bipartisan bills over the finish line.... Ms. Harris should both resist activist demands that would push her to the left and ignore the social media micro-rebellion that will follow.... 
Majorities disapprove of the Biden administration’s handling of several issues that voters care about most, including inflation and immigration. Ms. Harris might look at those numbers, and the complexity of the issues, and be tempted to ride a glide path to the nomination, taking few risks between now and when delegates vote in August. She should do the opposite.... 
The goal is to emerge from vice-presidential muddiness to presidential sharpness....

১৪৮টি মন্তব্য:

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves বলেছেন...

Joe has all the delegates. Funny how the rules are suspended when the corrupt left need them to be skirted.

Yancey Ward বলেছেন...

The only problem with this is that Harris is part of the Biden Administration and a particularly inept part of an inept operation. For Harris, there really can be no fresh start- only a candidate who hasn't been part of the Biden Administration could hope to accomplish this.

This is why I expect her to be dumped at the convention unless she gets the delegate vote done virtually before the end of this month.

Sebastian বলেছেন...

"She can invent the version of herself that suits a precise sliver of Americans — the waverers of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania"

Emphasis on invent. Who cares about reality and actual policy? But as we know, the waverers can make up any reason for any decision, so Harris' inventions don't much matter in the end. The election will be about Trump and abortion. Advantage: Dems.

gspencer বলেছেন...

Her "vision" is well-known. It involves having Big Government become even bigger, run by Ds. Summed, "Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State."

mccullough বলেছেন...

Kamala is an airhead whose staff turnover rivals a fast food franchise.

She should lay low with Joe.

RCOCEAN II বলেছেন...

Harris wasn't off on Mars during the last 4 years. She was border Czar and supporting Biden's policies every step of the way. It was the Biden Harris administration.

Harris, if its even possible, is even more a warhawk and leftist than Biden was. Name any unpopular Biden policy and Harris would push it even harder. Of course, it doesn't really matter whether its Biden or Harris, the same people REALLY running the Presidency will stay the same.

I read Biden hasn't had a cabinet meeting since November 2023. And there's no evidence he's involved in anything. Harris would be no different. who is her chief-of-staff? Name him, and we'll know who the real President will be.

RideSpaceMountain বলেছেন...

♫Cumma Cumma Cumma Cumma Cumma Cummaaaaaala♫
♫She blows and hoes♫
♫She blows and hooooooooes♫
♫Hoeing is easy cause your party is full of schemes♫
♫And the dollars so fresh and green♫
♫So fresh and greeeeeeeen♫



Achilles বলেছেন...

There is no way they actually go through with this.

Kamala seized power through an obvious politburo coup.

I predicted this was the destination. I just didn't realize it would be handled so ineptly.

The only thing that makes sense right now is that the people who run the democrat party want the party to fracture. I am still waiting for the Obama shoe to drop. Has he endorsed Kamala yet?

Can anyone tell us what Obama has said recently?

David53 বলেছেন...

Disaffected Democrats should vote for Jill Stein.

Mikey NTH বলেছেন...

(1) I didn't think she had a vision.
(2) Does anyone else remember when Harris visited her old sorority friends and the "Skee-Wee!" cry?* And how the nedia gushed about it? Expect more of that "the weird is so cute" stuff.

*I don't recall the exact cry but it was something like that.

AlbertAnonymous বলেছেন...

“Mr. Biden built a coalition of liberals, voters of color, moderates and ex-Republicans. In the White House, Mr. Biden’s approach helped get substantial bipartisan bills over the finish line.... “

They keep saying this hoping people believe it.

Everyone they tout something legislative as a “win” it’s always “bipartisan” legislation (which really only means one turncoat voted for it along with all the Dems). It’s like “sustainable” and “organic”. They just mean whatever you want them to mean on the moment.

hombre বলেছেন...

What vision? She is a joke.

Harun বলেছেন...

"She can invent the version of herself that suits a precise sliver of Americans"

Yes, she can attempt to do this for a few months, until she wins, and then reverts back to the policies of the Democratic Party.

It is disgusting to see the media grasping the opportunity to lie for her.

A fresh face!

C'mon, we know what she will do: essentially what Biden did, because that is where the party is at. If people are dumb enough to get snookered again, it will be hilarious.

RideSpaceMountain বলেছেন...

"What vision? She is a joke."

Actually she's the punchline. The joke's on us.

Leland বলেছেন...

WaPo is suggesting the sitting Vice President is a blank slate. Heh.

Well, she has started off with a call to make college free. That’s not a call for college’s to use there huge endowments to make college affordable. It is a call for the federal government to bankroll college education.

Achilles বলেছেন...

""Fate has presented Ms. Harris the rarest of political opportunities: to start a presidential campaign in the summer of an election year as a fresh, all-but-anointed candidate free to present her vision to all voters, not just to her own party.""


This is the official party line right? Kamala has been set up for success!

And they did it with an old fashioned coup!

There aren't even any train tracks under this train. They just picked up the train and put it 5 miles in the air and dropped it. To call what happens over the next month a train wreck is inappropriately descriptive.

Biden is going to go down in history as the second worst president ever.

Kamala will go down in history as the worst president an the worst candidate.

This is probably the biggest shit show in history. The Democrat party will not survive this.

wendybar বলেছেন...

Mollie
@MZHemingway

The New York Times is attacking Trump for something they think he might do but has not done lol


Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
A number of fundamentals of the general election race still favor Trump. But Harris's presence as the likely nominee may goad Trump into reviving some of the language he's used about Black women prosecutors @jonathanvswan me https://nytimes.com/2024/07/23/us/politics/trump-harris-attack-lines.html

Bill Crawford বলেছেন...

Looking forward to their editorial on "What Trump needs to do, now, to win"

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves বলেছেন...

If the corrupt coalition of mobsters were not in charge - RFK Jr. could be running for president on ticket-D, and would more than likely win handily against Trump.

Corruption mob-D trumps all.

Sally327 বলেছেন...

Interesting that the approach here seems to be to present her as this newly emerged, freshly minted candidate as opposed to her being a safe pair of hands, the steady, ready-to-go replacement who will keep everything moving along nicely.

Are they trying to recapture the Barack Obama magic of 2008?

doctrev বলেছেন...

Achilles said...

Kamala will go down in history as the worst president an the worst candidate.

This is probably the biggest shit show in history. The Democrat party will not survive this.

7/23/24, 9:45 AM

Yeah. I have zero respect for the Con Inc. bedwetters who claim "Biden/ Harris" got a new lease on life. After the last debate, the Rats are insane to want another one. But here we are.

D.D. Driver বলেছেন...

As a double-hater (one of) my reactions is: you are going to beat the drum about Trump and a pornstar, but ignore that your candidate took a job from the married man she was fucking. At least with Trump and Stormy Daniels there were no victims. Kamala stole a job from a more qualified candidate in the most whoreish way possible. The left will never gaslight me into thinking this is "okay." Kamala is far (and I would argue objectively because there were real victims) sleezier than Trump on that point.

n.n বলেছেন...

American Spring. Let's hope we fare better.

John henry বলেছেন...

A question that needs to be asked every afternoon

Kamala Harris:Drunk or sober?

John Henry

robother বলেছেন...

As Althouse pointed out years ago, the editorial boards of the NYTimes and the WaPo have along with the CNN and MSNBC talking heads been the primary constituency of Kamala Harris. She fulfills some primal diversity urge in them that Obama only whetted.

Temujin বলেছেন...

She. Is. The. Border. Czar.

'Splain please.

Kevin বলেছেন...
এই মন্তব্যটি লেখক দ্বারা সরানো হয়েছে।
Kevin বলেছেন...

Kama, kama, kama, kama, kama chameleon

You come and go, you come and go

Loving would be easy if your policies were my dreams

We will believe. We will believe.

narciso বলেছেন...

And the ai czar danger will robinson

Mike (MJB Wolf) বলেছেন...

She is a laughing fool, which sounds like a stereotype, but is the best short descriptor based on her limited, very limited, interaction with us, the public. She laughed about the George Floyd riots that killed dozens. She giggled about the Moon with fake school kids. She broke down in laughs over Venn diagrams.

And when not laughing she makes very ominous statements about taking vengeance on Trump, punishing Israel, and so on. She's the smiling face of fascism that lied voluminously about how sharp Joe was, when she barely spent any time at all with him.

doctrev বলেছেন...

Achilles said...

Kamala will go down in history as the worst president an the worst candidate.

This is probably the biggest shit show in history. The Democrat party will not survive this.

7/23/24, 9:45 AM

Yeah. I have zero respect for the Con Inc. bedwetters who insist the "Biden/ Harris" campaign has a new lease on life. Of course, that's more than the respect I give the insane cultists who are STILL butthurt that Trump destroyed the champions of the globalist GOP. They are volcanically angry they lost this chance, and always will be.

tcrosse বলেছেন...

You can't polish a turd.

Mike (MJB Wolf) বলেছেন...

I HATE PANTSUITS!

Levi Starks বলেছেন...

I’m confident that we can look forward to months of the mainstream media giving Kamala terrific advice on how to win,
While continuing to tell us what an awful nazi Trump is.

Paul বলেছেন...

For almost 4 years Harris has not debated anyone... lifted a finger to really work... accomplished zero... and people think she will do well in any debate with Trump?

Her track record is .. what?

Well it is gonna be interesting, lest the next 4 months. Bet she bunkers up like Biden did. Speeches will be 100% scripted. Photo ops only. And she will say as little as she can and hope people are fooled once again.

Whiskeybum বলেছেন...

Notice how the WAPO wants Harris to not change a thing from the approaches to issues facing the Biden administration. This is simply the real power behind the office of Democrat POTUS talking through the WAPO like a ventriloquist's dummy, saying "we're only going to change the face of the POTUS, not any of the policies that we've orchestrated during the past 4 years".

Lem Vibe Bandit বলেছেন...

If it's fate, and you make recommendations aren't you... meddling, interfering with fate?

If it's fate, you are just supposed to cheer and show up on time to rehearsals and brunches.

If it's fate, you tamp down any criticism and spin anything obviously out of place.

If it's fate, you don't bring up the ex's in conversation. In fact, the ex's might as well be dead.

If it's fate...

Original Mike বলেছেন...

I have to admit to being puzzled as to how all this unfolded. The dem bigwigs can't be happy about having Kamala as their candidate*. Yet they knew years ago that Biden was mentally unfit. How did they let this happen?

*I don't for one minute dismiss the possibility she could win. Half the country would vote for a turnip if it had a D after its name.

wendybar বলেছেন...

"“The Democrats and the left — the way they shit on our face and tell us it’s 80 and sunny is so infuriating. Just admit you hijacked Democracy. Just admit, you don’t care if fucking Mussolini or a head of lettuce is running against Trump. You hate him so much you’re willing to trample on Democracy, steal the vote from the American public."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1815439295643009381

Jalanl বলেছেন...

William Murdoch was the first officer on the Titanic. He was in charge of the border (oops I mean bridge) when the ship struck the iceberg. After loading lifeboats on his side of the bridge he went down with the ship. Some people believe he shot himself. Anyhow, he didn't row away and have an opportunity for a "fresh" start as if he had nothing to do with the sinking...

Achilles বলেছেন...

Sally327 said...

Are they trying to recapture the Barack Obama magic of 2008?

No.

They are trying to make the United States into a more Soviet model of government.

And if they want the Obama magic they kinda need Obama's endorsement.

Aggie বলেছেন...

Cheadle resigns? Breaking news......

rehajm বলেছেন...

I’ll do what the liberals do and offer advice to people I hate: If Joe is your problem Kamala isn’t a solution. Not to worry, the cook the vote contingency is still in place…

Greg the Class Traitor বলেছেন...

From "What Harris needs to do, now, to win" by The Editorial Board of The Washington Post.

Well, step 1 would be "ignore the morons running The Editorial Board of The Washington Post".


But enough of this distraction with the word "fate." Let's look at that rare opportunity that has arrived for Ms. Harris. She is "free to present her vision to all voters, not just to her own party."

And her vision is a Marxist "Year Zero" "What can be, unburdened by what has been" approach to the world, much like the one pushed by the Khmer Rouge.

Happily, the US has the Second Amendment, which means they won't be able to kill 1/3 of America with their desires. But they probably would be able to get the total death tool over a million people, most of them on their side.

The Editors recommend:
Mr. Biden’s approach helped get substantial bipartisan bills over the finish line

Really? Do tell! Could someone please name two of those "substantial bipartisan bills"?

chickelit বলেছেন...

Open borders, pro-Palestine and she fits Obama’s hand like a ventriloquist’s puppet. What’s not to like about her?

traditionalguy বলেছেন...

Rumors are circulating thad Bden is close to death. Kamala had better get her own security team, as fast as Karma is going the Speaker of the House may get it all for a season.

chickelit বলেছেন...

Cheatle resigns? She she have been hounded out of office. She should never serve in Government again.

wendybar বলেছেন...


Tulsi Gabbard 🌺
@TulsiGabbard
Kamala Harris is not knowledgeable or strong enough to stand up to potential adversaries, or just as importantly the unelected warmongers — i.e. the Military Industrial Complex which profits from war, and the National Security State which uses these wars as a pretext to further clamp down on our freedom. Like Biden, she will simply be their puppet. We need a Commander-in-Chief strong enough to take charge. Trump will not be anyone’s puppet. That’s why the Deep State will do everything possible to keep him out of the Oval Office.

Quayle বলেছেন...

Fate has presented Democrat voters with a candidate almost none of them voted for.

(Sometimes it is hard to see fate coming, what with all the cigar smoke in the back room.)

JAORE বলেছেন...

"The goal is to emerge from vice-presidential muddiness to presidential sharpness...."

Kamala is not even the sharpest spoon in the drawer.

Marc in Eugene বলেছেন...

I'm told by several sources that Mrs Harris is an enemy of the Catholic Church. Eh. Whatever that prejudice may be about (if in fact it exists), I think the poor woman has bigger problems these days. What's her Secret Service team look like, I wonder.

PM বলেছেন...

Running Kamala is running San Francisco to be the President.
She is everything this asshat city is. Hyena laugh included.

n.n বলেছেন...

Fate...

Neil Sedaka - One Way Ticket

... One way ticket to the blues

Mark বলেছেন...

"What Harris needs to do, now, to win"...

...is to give well-drafted speeches and do other things to look presidential, in addition to the usual Dem presidential things, without going overboard on attacking Trump. Poke the bear now and then to trigger Trump's worst impulses, but otherwise stay above the fray and let Trump self-destruct.

She would also be better off with her own campaign staff rather than trusting in Biden's crew.

Enemy Within বলেছেন...

As much as anyone wants to claim Harris' nomination was a palace coup, it's abundantly clear she was the clear favorite to succeed Biden by a majority of Democrats from recent polling, and nobody else was close. The groundswell of support for her from the Democratic party has been remarkable to even some of the party stalwarts.

She isn't a perfect candidate judging by her 2020 campaign. The prospect of a divided and chaotic convention would also be necessary for a non-Harris candidate to emerge. That would not be helpful.

So Democrats are taking the least risky, most qualified, and second-in-line candidate which is logical. She has won the nomination but still has a ways to go to win the election, but she will have the unified support of her party and plenty of money.

Breezy বলেছেন...

She might start by actually reading the briefs given to her.

What’s the over-under on how big a crowd she can draw? My guess is a pretty low number - couple hundred? - since she’s not very informative nor entertaining, and has that ear-piercing cackle.

chickelit বলেছেন...

Mark notes : “She would also be better off with her own campaign staff rather than trusting in Biden's”

She’s got an excellent track record for building staff.

dbp বলেছেন...

"...Present her vision..."

When I read that line, I immediately thought of the movie, Miss Congeniality. Sandra Bullock plays a tomboy FBI agent tasked with being an undercover beauty pageant contestant.

There's always a talent component and her handlers need to find something quickly for the graceless agent. There's got to be something analogous going on for our vacuous VP right now.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Mark said...

"What Harris needs to do, now, to win"...

...is to give well-drafted speeches and do other things to look presidential, in addition to the usual Dem presidential things, without going overboard on attacking Trump. Poke the bear now and then to trigger Trump's worst impulses, but otherwise stay above the fray and let Trump self-destruct.

She would also be better off with her own campaign staff rather than trusting in Biden's crew.


Harris has got this.

She didn't just fall out of a coconut tree you know. She will be unburdened by what has come before.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Rich said...

As much as anyone wants to claim Harris' nomination was a palace coup, it's abundantly clear she was the clear favorite to succeed Biden by a majority of Democrats from recent polling, and nobody else was close. The groundswell of support for her from the Democratic party has been remarkable to even some of the party stalwarts.

When do you suppose Bernie, Schumer, Bernie, and Obama join this unified front?

ga6 বলেছেন...

"If the corrupt coalition of mobsters were not in charge - RFK Jr"

No, those were his Uncles buddies that got the Kennedy menagerie into the While House in the first place. Then RFK Sr double crossed them and we have the incident in Dallas.

planetgeo বলেছেন...

Who do these clowns think they are kidding? HER vision? You mean like California, as in dystopian Oakland and San Francisco? Kamala makes Cheatle look like an incredibly competent and visionary genius.

Just an old country lawyer বলেছেন...

She is "free to present her vision to all voters, not just to her own party."

Does anyone believe that she is free to do anything that she is not directed to do by the junta? That she will have any agency?

They made her without the consent of the party's voters, and can break her if she becomes too incompetent, too independent, or too anything she's not told to be.

As any fool can plainly see, what they did with Joe, they can do with her. Why else have one mediocrity succeed another?

Wa St Blogger বলেছেন...

The Democrat party will not survive this.

It most certainly will

Her track record is .. what?

Her track record is irrelevant.

The left votes lefty regardless of competence. It does not matter the name on the ticket, just the party.

Even our hostess hints at this when she calls herself the sliver of voters Kamala must appeal to. lefties that are not hard core Yellow dogs, still are looking for any sliver of an excuse to go with the Dem candidate. It's not a hard sell. The candidate just has to appear to sound reasonable or competent, to give a hope that they can be better than what their history tells the voter.

The left does not value what the right does, so when you analyze base on your own criteria you will be constantly flummoxed by what happens.

Left Bank of the Charles বলেছেন...

They took your advice from February and now you are complaining about it?

“Or there could be a very quick realization that it simply must be Kamala Harris. Don't scramble at all. Harris is next in line. A democratic process led to the selection of Harris in 2020. Let her rise to the open position when it becomes vacant.

Even if they could persuade Harris to step aside because she's not a good enough candidate and they need to swap in somebody else, no one will believe she wasn't pushed aside, disrespected, humiliated.”

pacwest বলেছেন...

Democrats are taking the least risky, most qualified,

Harris is the "most qualified" the Dems can muster?? A complete and obvious airhead? Holy Kamole!

Joe Smith বলেছেন...

#Kneepads

Iman বলেছেন...

The WaPoo and NYT are so good at investigative reporting and their opinions are second to none.

/sarc

Bob Boyd বলেছেন...

I predict Kamala will be the actual President very soon. I can't see them bringing Joe back and letting him overshadow her and taint her supposed freshness. They don't want the election to be about 4 more years of Biden-Harris. They want voters to believe they have something totally new to vote for vs. Trump.

Iman বলেছেন...

For Mike (MJB Wolf)…

Out: Pantsuited Pantload Hillary Clinton

In: Pantsuited Pantload QueMala Harris

Big Mike বলেছেন...

Even our hostess hints at this when she calls herself the sliver of voters Kamala must appeal to. lefties that are not hard core Yellow dogs, still are looking for any sliver of an excuse to go with the Dem candidate.

Another person who is not fooled by our blog hostess and her pretense at neutrality. Welcome to the (too small) club.

Goetz von Berlichingen বলেছেন...

One way to make Kamalatoe look 'presidential'? How about her (reluctantly and respectfully) initiating 25th amendment proceedings to remove FJB?

Yes, she may aggravate some dems, but the press could run with the 'courageous act' angle and manufacture for her a gravitas she doesn't actually have. If our resident lefties are representative of the dem constituency, and they are, then they'll grasp at every bullshit spin their betters offer to justify their support for her.

It's a long shot and a gamble, but what do the dems have to lose? FJB is useless to them now, dead or alive, except as a prop in their kabuki theater.

MfG,
Goetz von Berlichingen

Joe Smith বলেছেন...

Is Kamala a drunk?

Scott Adams thinks so...

MikeD বলেছেন...

The DEI hired solely to protect good ol' Joe from being impeached or otherwise removed is now a shining stellar candidate for the Presidency? It's truly a bizzaro world we currently inhabit.

Michael K বলেছেন...

I remember the comment about Kamala, which might even have been before she was "picked" to be VP. "Everything she has accomplished has been handed to her." Starting with Willie.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Wa St Blogger said...

The Democrat party will not survive this.

It most certainly will

In what form? Lets break down the current democrat party down into their requisite constituencies and tell me how this turns out. They have 4 main groups:

1. The Marxists. AOC/Bernie as figurehead. This is the largest and most energized/motivated group.

2. The Harem Girls and Karens. Former Director Cheatle is a member. For that matter so is Kamala.

3. The Racial Spoils coalition. Clyburne and Jackson gonna get theirs.

4. The Insider Trading and Warmongers club.

Kamala stands for group 2.

None of their VP options bring in the other 3. And much of group 4 has made it clear that Kamala is a no go. Obama is the only person that can keep this together and he sees that even if they are united it will be a historic blowout.

Having started many businesses I will tell you that personality differences can be papered over while things are going well. When the money runs out you find out who people really are.

The marxists in particular carry this coalition with energy and numbers, but they have been given the back of the hand. Pressley and Bowman were both primaried by group 4. Group 4 even took a shot at AOC. They think group 4 is the joooooos.

JK Brown বলেছেন...

Clean slate?
Judge by actions, not by words

A data nerd investigation in to Kamala's documented past actions. Presented in a nerdy husband/wife dialogue format.

Kamala Harris' Background: Authoritarianism for the Sake of Authoritarianism
https://youtu.be/pl331ECFUJw?t=612

Kamala Harris literally kept black men in prison for cheap chaingaing labor. Bull Conner would approve

Iman বলেছেন...

In order to avoid being called a flirt, QueMala always yielded easily.

Wa St Blogger বলেছেন...

Achilles,

I don't disagree with your data, but I do disagree with your conclusion.

What I think is missing is the analysis of their options. These groups will continue to unite despite their differences because they are stronger as a coalition. They will fall into line because they believe each of the other 3 groups will still be better off with the one group that has the lead than they would if they break away.

In 2020 the Bernie Bros fell into line, and still all the Karens will have no problem voting for whichever group is ascendent, and so will the racialists, marxists and the deep state. I see no safe harbor for them but the Democrat party. And then there is sexual identity/abortion issue that will vote lock-step.

MadTownGuy বলেছেন...

Stephen King on X:

"Trump has announced he won't debate Kamala Harris."

Newsweek:
Stephen King's Post on Potential Trump, Harris Debate Goes Viral

"Bestselling author Stephen King's latest social media post has gone viral while falsely claiming that former President Donald Trump has refused a potential debate with Vice President Kamala Harris."

Oops.

Rosalyn C. বলেছেন...

I think Achilles's analysis points to RFK jr. as a real possibility, which I didn't see before.

He'd get the fringe groupies, the girlies, the deep money liberal pockets, and POC cohort thanks to his dad.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Even if they could persuade Harris to step aside because she's not a good enough candidate and they need to swap in somebody else, no one will believe she wasn't pushed aside, disrespected, humiliated.”

Better to disrespect the voters than Kamala right?

The polls haven't changed.

The Insider Trading Club and Warmongers are not going to accept Kamala. They know that is a sure path to oblivion.

The Marxists just like to take scalps and shed blood.

I expect the Insider Trading Warmongers Club and the Marxists to ally and tell the Harem Girls and Karens to get on their knees where they belong.

And I expect all of the leftists here to claim it was a masterful move and we knew it all along.

Howard বলেছেন...

Kamala Harris is Hillary Clinton without a sunny personable disposition. None of my super elite democratical friends like Harris one bit. She is a guarantee that the independent voters will be staying home.

This is just one giant fuck up after a series of giant fuck ups that the Democrat party has inflicted on itself. It's no giant conspiracy it is incompetence in the service of unbridled ambition and greed couched in their fear of their inevitable demise literally and figuratively. At least they're not going gently into that good night.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Rosalyn C. said...

I think Achilles's analysis points to RFK jr. as a real possibility, which I didn't see before.

This almost certainly requires RFK to be a CIA plant and amoral fedmuffin which I do not discount.

The RFK neighbor node on the decision tree map has 2 nearest neighbors:

1. RFK accepts the Democrat nomination and enters a tenuous relationship with the people that killed his uncles.

2. RFK remains independent and almost certainly has a place in the Trump administration with respect to public health.

If RFK chose vertex number 1 this opens up a different world with different possibilities from node 2.

If RFK chooses option 1 that says a lot about how he values power vs. his desire to make the world better. If RFK goes to vertex 1 the nearest neighbors are a list of results from the negotiation between RFK and the Deep State that likes to kill his family when it gets uppity.

That is a dark tree in my opinion. Entirely possible but dark. RFK seems like a good guy. Would that level of power be attractive enough for him to enter that deal? Who has hand in that situation? Is he a puppet?

The next nearest neighbors for RFK taking that role:

1. RFK is a CIA plant and this was the plan all along. He bangs some interns while the Deep State does it's business.

2. RFK is a hostage and the Deep State does it's business.

3. RFK is a good guy and he and the Deep State are in a constant struggle until inevitable termination of the relationship.

BUMBLE BEE বলেছেন...

Have we all forgotten?

Democracy Dies In Darkness!

Scott Patton বলেছেন...

There is no such thing as fate. Same as luck. Supernatural concepts that should be left to the past.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

I suspect the shiny "new" thing Harris will get a bump in the Polls. That the Democrat Media will trumpet. And then as she talks more, and her somewhat foolish views in the past (Hello Jussie Smollett?) are brought back to life, she'll slide back to underwater.

Iman বলেছেন...

From pee pads to knee pads...the torch has been passed.

Achilles বলেছেন...

MadisonMan said...

I suspect the shiny "new" thing Harris will get a bump in the Polls. That the Democrat Media will trumpet. And then as she talks more, and her somewhat foolish views in the past (Hello Jussie Smollett?) are brought back to life, she'll slide back to underwater.

I think you are underestimating the effect that X has on things.

Kamala memes are all over the place. The coconut has fallen. The polls are already out. We are still burdened by what has been.

Everyone is laughing at the Democrat Party right now. This is what a true public square looks like without filters.

The people supporting Kamala right now did just fall out of a coconut tree.

Absent a sudden incursion of competence Kamala will be on her way out soon. If they stay with her it is a signal that they are not just giving up the white house, they are conceding the house and senate as well.

Not saying they wont do that. Just seems unlikely. And if that happens look for certain parts of the coalition to reform the party or start their own.

Iman বলেছেন...

Pee pads to kneepads, that's all they did
First he’s dying, his brain’s frying
Then they called a lid
Pee pads to kneepads, that's all they did
She’s a boozer and a loser
That's how low we’ve slid

h/t the Stylistics

Achilles বলেছেন...

This is Chuck Schumer "endorsing" Kamala Harris.

Chuck Schumer is pissed.

"I am clapping so you don't have to."

Look at his face when he said that. Someone has one of his kids in a box car somewhere.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Joe is back.

They did a better job in Mission Impossible.

Do you think they will let Joe and Jill be together before the convention?

Static Ping বলেছেন...

We will see if Kamala manages to survive until the convention or get nominated at the convention. There is more than one conspiracy in play at the moment, and nothing has been decided. Kamala very much feels like a sabotage attempt by the Bidens, not someone any of the conspirators that pushed Biden out would have wanted.

Do remember that Kamala is a terrible politician. The only reason she ever reached higher office was because she was the mistress of a powerful and competent politician, and the only reason she is VP is because she was an overt DEI pick that made Biden look good in comparison. She has spent her entire stint as VP failing repeatedly such that even the Biden cabal find her useless.

The battle now is between the Clintons, Obama and his cronies, the Biden collective, and the major donors to who gets the nod. Oh, they all support Kamala publicly, but the knives are out.

RideSpaceMountain বলেছেন...

"Look at his face when he said that. Someone has one of his kids in a box car somewhere."

“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six different boxcars to stash your kids someplace.” - Charles "I'll get those damn Smurfs someday!" Schumer

Greg the Class Traitor বলেছেন...

From "What Harris needs to do, now, to win" by The Editorial Board of The Washington Post.

Well, step 1 would be "ignore the morons running The Editorial Board of The Washington Post".


But enough of this distraction with the word "fate." Let's look at that rare opportunity that has arrived for Ms. Harris. She is "free to present her vision to all voters, not just to her own party."

And her vision is a Marxist "Year Zero" "What can be, unburdened by what has been" approach to the world, much like the one pushed by the Khmer Rouge.

Happily, the US has the Second Amendment, which means they won't be able to kill 1/3 of America with their desires. But they probably would be able to get the total death tool over a million people, most of them on their side.

The Editors recommend:
Mr. Biden’s approach helped get substantial bipartisan bills over the finish line

Really? Do tell! Could someone please name two of those "substantial bipartisan bills"?

Greg the Class Traitor বলেছেন...

From "What Harris needs to do, now, to win" by The Editorial Board of The Washington Post.

Well, step 1 would be "ignore the morons running The Editorial Board of The Washington Post".


But enough of this distraction with the word "fate." Let's look at that rare opportunity that has arrived for Ms. Harris. She is "free to present her vision to all voters, not just to her own party."

And her vision is a Marxist "Year Zero" "What can be, unburdened by what has been" approach to the world, much like the one pushed by the Khmer Rouge.

Happily, the US has the Second Amendment, which means they won't be able to kill 1/3 of America with their desires. But they probably would be able to get the total death tool over a million people, most of them on their side.

The Editors recommend:
Mr. Biden’s approach helped get substantial bipartisan bills over the finish line

Really? Do tell! Could someone please name two of those "substantial bipartisan bills"?

Aggie বলেছেন...

Charles Schumer says "Now that our process has played out - from the grass roots on up...."

Said it with a straight face, too ! Tell us about your process, Chuck.

I note Biden climbed up the adult stairs to AF-1. Stunt double?

Inga বলেছেন...

Kamala Harris’ rally in West Allis, WI earlier today was amazing, she hit every single issue with strength and vigor, the people absolutely loved her. The place was electric! While JD Vance gave a rally yesterday, where the rally goers had puzzled looks on their faces, oy. I have a feeling that Trump may already have buyer’s remorse.

JRoj বলেছেন...

Meet the new puppet. Same as the (very) old puppet.

Inga বলেছেন...
এই মন্তব্যটি লেখক দ্বারা সরানো হয়েছে।
Breezy বলেছেন...

Gosh the Dems finally have someone that can draw 3% of what Trump can draw. Woohoo.

Inga বলেছেন...

Could anyone be more wrong about most everything political than Achilles?

“I think Achilles's analysis points to RFK jr. as a real possibility, which I didn't see before.

He'd get the fringe groupies, the girlies, the deep money liberal pockets, and POC cohort thanks to his dad.”

Nope, not gonna happen. Deep pocket liberals won’t touch him. I doubt any girlies are excited by RFK Jr. he could be their grandpa. POC, supporting RFK over Kamala Harris, seriously, no, lol. Fringe groupies, who knows, but if there are fringe groupies, there aren’t that many of them.

Drago বলেছেন...

Inga: "Could anyone be more wrong about most everything political than Achilles?"

Explain again how the russian collusion that you believe so passionately in actually worked.

We'll wait.

RideSpaceMountain বলেছেন...

"Kamala Harris’ rally in West Allis, WI earlier today was amazing, she hit every single issue with strength and vigor, the people absolutely loved her. The place was electric!"

A cursory glance of the world through Inga's eyes.

Wa St Blogger বলেছেন...

the people absolutely loved her
the rally goers had puzzled looks on their faces

You know that you get your information from sources that have proven to lie to you consistently, and yet you believe what they tell you now.

Harris posted the video of the event to youtube. I noted the lack of any views of the crowd just video of the speakers. Why are there no views of the adoring, roaring crowds? Wouldn't that be a great message to be posting to the world? Now, I may be cynical here, but a lack of crowd shots suggest less enthusiasm than you are projecting.

Vance is a VP and his Rally overflowed the venue.

Drago বলেছেন...

Inga: "Kamala Harris’ rally in West Allis, WI earlier today was amazing, she hit every single issue with strength and vigor, the people absolutely loved her. The place was electric!"

LOL

An estimated 3k people? In Milwaukee?!

Too funny. "electric"

Don't type "electric" too loudly...you'll make Joey Dementia scared as he looks around at the beeping machines.

Drago বলেছেন...

Wa St Blogger: "Harris posted the video of the event to youtube. I noted the lack of any views of the crowd just video of the speakers. Why are there no views of the adoring, roaring crowds?"

Remember, at the last biden "rally" the New Soviet Democraticals actually piped in additional crowd noise!!

LOL

Iman বলেছেন...

The LA Times used to detail QueMala’s sexual exploits back in the day.

Drago বলেছেন...

I wonder what it would be like for Trump if he were to draw only a paltry 3k to a rally in a major city.

I guess we'll never know.

Iman বলেছেন...

Igna spreading lies and disinformation? Say it ain’t so!

Drago বলেছেন...

Wa St Blogger: "I noted the lack of any views of the crowd just video of the speakers. Why are there no views of the adoring, roaring crowds?"

There was 1 quick pan of the upper reach that held about 500 so, that was "something" I guess.

But if it made Inga feel better about things, I suppose it was worth it.

Ampersand বলেছেন...

Like many who post here, I think of Kamala as an albatross for the Dems and the nation.
Let me now defend her from the repeated attacks along the lines that her badness is in some way instantiated by her sexual past. This is a dumb argument. All you are doing is pointing out that she is,or at least was,an attractive heterosexual.

There are lots of bad women politicians in California who succeed without good looks. The key for them is often identity politics. That has been Kamala's path too.

If you've had the good fortune to enjoy happy sexual relationships, it's hypocritical to attack someone who seems to be guilty of nothing more than what you have done. Thank God for the women who we're willing to take a chance on me.

My gratitude will never die. P

Breezy বলেছেন...

Kamala reminds me of the “fun” women, drunk and laughing, at the college frat parties.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Inga said...

Could anyone be more wrong about most everything political than Achilles?

“I think Achilles's analysis points to RFK jr. as a real possibility, which I didn't see before."

He'd get the fringe groupies, the girlies, the deep money liberal pockets, and POC cohort thanks to his dad.”

Nope, not gonna happen. Deep pocket liberals won’t touch him. I doubt any girlies are excited by RFK Jr. he could be their grandpa. POC, supporting RFK over Kamala Harris, seriously, no, lol. Fringe groupies, who knows, but if there are fringe groupies, there aren’t that many of them.

Inga doesn't even know what the words she typed even mean.

It is obvious she doesn't know what the factions of the democrat party are.

So to get back to the adult table and interesting conversation:

Whether or not the donors would go for RFK would depend on their perception of their ability to
1. control him
2. get things from him

Slightly different things. Hard to tell but I don't think he appears too controllable.

So at that point they are aiming for a return on investment and the opportunity cost is what happens to them if Trump is elected instead. He is a climate cultist so they will probably get some green new deal subsidy. Other than than the medical industry would be in for a rough time either way and I don't think the Warmongers are too keen on their prospects either way.

I personally don't think RFK is a highly likely option.

I think you are looking at some combination of Moore + cooper/beshear. Shapiro isn't really an option because the palestinian marxists wont allow it.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Wa St Blogger said...

You know that you get your information from sources that have proven to lie to you consistently, and yet you believe what they tell you now.

Harris posted the video of the event to youtube. I noted the lack of any views of the crowd just video of the speakers. Why are there no views of the adoring, roaring crowds? Wouldn't that be a great message to be posting to the world? Now, I may be cynical here, but a lack of crowd shots suggest less enthusiasm than you are projecting.

Vance is a VP and his Rally overflowed the venue.


X has made it really hard for the regime.

View of Kamala's adoring fans

Probably ~500ish people.

Drago বলেছেন...

Achilles: "Probably ~500ish people."

Bussed in, paid for their attendance, told when to scream and pumped in amplified crowd noise.

No Soviet rally is complete without all that.

Drago বলেছেন...

Achilles: "Probably ~500ish people."

An average urban high school basketball game in terms of attendence.

But It. Was. ELECTRIC!

Achilles বলেছেন...

Blogger Aggie said...

I note Biden climbed up the adult stairs to AF-1. Stunt double?

Exactly what every intelligent person said as they saw this.

After an illness so severe he pulled out of the race he walks out without a word and without his wife and walks up the big boy stairs for the first time in a year strong as an Ox.

They are not even trying.

Achilles বলেছেন...

“We call for the Rules Committee to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates,” the BLM statement read.

PrimoStL বলেছেন...

Ampersand said, "Let me now defend her from the repeated attacks along the lines that her badness is in some way instantiated by her sexual past. This is a dumb argument. All you are doing is pointing out that she is,or at least was,an attractive heterosexual."

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OK if that's your type I guess, and regarding her sexual past instantiating her badness I have it on very good heterosexual female authority that women just love other women who sleep their way to the top. They consider it to be a real girl power move. Scout's honor.

Inga বলেছেন...

Harris neck and neck with Trump in polls, as Wisconsin rally draws 3,000 supporters

3000 people packed into a high school auditorium, the people roared their approval. It is only getting better and better, much quicker than expected, the polls are going to leave Trump behind in a few days, I predict.

“Three high-quality new polls now show Harris running essentially even with Trump, signaling that the dynamics of the presidential race could be shifting.

Excitement among Democrats is palpable. The vice president delivered her first rally speech as the de facto Democratic nominiee to a very fired-up audience, who cheered and chanted and answered her calls.”

Inga বলেছেন...

“I have it on very good heterosexual female authority that women just love other women who sleep their way to the top. They consider it to be a real girl power move.”

I have it on very good heterosexual female authority that women don’t like assholes who accuse women who are successful of sleeping their way to the top. Not a winning path to gain independent female votes.

Drago বলেছেন...

White Savior Karen Inga: "I have it on very good heterosexual female authority that women don’t like assholes who accuse women who are successful of sleeping their way to the top."

So then now would be a good time for you to retract your accusations against Melania Trump that she was an escort.

Would you like to do that now? Or just remain the a**hole that you currently are by your very own "rules"?

Let's see what happens next....

Drago বলেছেন...

White Savior Karen Inga: "Excitement among Democrats is palpable. The vice president delivered her first rally speech as the de facto Democratic nominiee to a very fired-up audience, who cheered and chanted and answered her calls.”

"The New York Times Rates 10 Democrats’ Chances of Beating Trump — And Puts Kamala Harris Dead Last

A collection of New York Times journalists believes that Vice President and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris is the least electable candidate Democrats could put up against Donald Trump this fall.

After President Joe Biden announced that he would not seek a second term in the White House on Sunday, the Times enlisted eight writers and columnists to grade ten potential candidates on both how electable and how exciting they would be.

And although she finished fifth in the latter category, she finished dead last in the former — and more important — one.

On a 10-point scale, Harris was rated a 4.6, and was one of only two candidates to have the average of their electability scores fall below 5 (California Governor Gavin Newsom was the other, at 4.9).

“She has no demonstrated appeal to swing voters, and she cannot run away from the Biden-Harris record on inflation and immigration,” wrote Josh Barro."

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/22/opinion/best-worst-candidates-to-replace-biden.html

So much excitement. Excitement off the charts! Excitement at levels we have never seen before! Galactic excitement numbers!

Hey, can we bus another 500 people into another gym soon?

PrimoStL বলেছেন...

Inga said, "I have it on very good heterosexual female authority that women don’t like assholes who accuse women who are successful of sleeping their way to the top."

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In 1994 Kamala Harris was 29, in her first job as a prosecutor in the Alameda County DA's Office, and had a taste for the finer things in life. Willie Brown was 60, married, and the second most senior politician in California.

Harris became Brown's mistress. This is well-known and not just inside CA. Willie Brown not only has never denied it, but he has been caught on record inadvertently patting himself on the back to other black men for getting 'hisself a piece'. In return Brown appointed Harris to the California Medical Assistance Commission as a part-time attorney at a salary of $72,000 per year, followed by another part-time appointment to the state's Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board at an additional salary of $97,088 a year. Then he helped her become DA in San Francisco.

Harris is an unnaccomplished hussy that has slept her way to the top. And you're trash Inga. Gullible trash. The worst kind.

Jim at বলেছেন...

I find it hilarious the person - so despised by members of her own party, she was forced to drop out before the first ballot was cast in Iowa - is now the savior who's finally going to slay Trump.

You're delusional.

Drago বলেছেন...

Reposted for Inga's benefit:

White Savior Karen Inga: "I have it on very good heterosexual female authority that women don’t like assholes who accuse women who are successful of sleeping their way to the top."

So then now would be a good time for you to retract your accusations against Melania Trump that she was an escort.

Would you like to do that now? Or just remain the a**hole that you currently are by your very own "rules"?

Let's see what happens next....

Inga বলেছেন...

‘Harris and Trump are statistically tied

In a head-to-head matchup, Trump gets 46%, while Harris is at 45%, with 9% undecided. In Marist’s survey earlier this month, just 2% were undecided between Trump and Biden. The poll of 1,309 adults was conducted Monday via online research panels. It has a +/- 3.2 percentage point margin of error, meaning results could be roughly 3 points higher or lower.
In a five-way contest, Trump and Harris each get 42%, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. pulls in 7%, the lowest since Marist has been testing him since April, and independent Cornel West and the Green Party’s Jill Stein get just 1%.

Notably, Harris holds onto Gen Z/Millennial voters and nonwhite voters more so than Biden was able to when the contest moves from a head-to-head with Trump to one with third-party choices. Earlier this month, Biden declined 13 points with those younger voters and 10 points with nonwhite voters. Harris, on the other hand, largely retains her support with those groups.

A plurality said the decision puts Democrats in a better position to win
By a 41%-24% margin, Americans said Biden’s decision increases Democrats’ chances this fall. A third said it makes no difference.”

NPR

My prediction is that by next week Harris will be ahead of Trump by significantly.

Drago বলেছেন...

So much excitement! So very much! Wow, did I say so very much excitement yet?

https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1815797696109908411

Chuck Schumer: "We are here today to throw our support behind VP Kamala Harris!"

****dead silence****

"I'm clapping! You don't have to."

Inga! Good news! You don't have to clap for Kamala! Schumer is doing that for you...but on the inside....where it counts! Amirite?

Drago বলেছেন...

NPR/Marist!

LOL

Inga বলেছেন...

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/23/nx-s1-5048890/elections-poll-biden-harris-trump

Drago বলেছেন...

Inga previous recent predictions:

Biden well ahead of Trump
Biden scares Trump
Trump won't accept Biden debate challenge
Trump accepted Biden debate challenge but won't show up
Trump will show up and Biden will defeat him easily

Inga Post-debate analysis: Biden crushed Trump!

Discuss.

Drago বলেছেন...

Inga previous recent predictions:

Biden well ahead of Trump
Biden scares Trump
Trump won't accept Biden debate challenge
Trump accepted Biden debate challenge but won't show up
Trump will show up and Biden will defeat him easily

Inga Post-debate analysis: Biden crushed Trump!

Discuss.

BUMBLE BEE বলেছেন...

It's the first time Kamala has been promoted because a man pulled out.

Drago বলেছেন...

Inga suddenly unwilling to discuss her previous a**hole commentary and accusations against Melania that she was an escort.

Very suddenly.

Like, right now.

Inga বলেছেন...

“In 1994 Kamala Harris was 29, in her first job as a prosecutor in the Alameda County DA's Office, and had a taste for the finer things in life. Willie Brown was 60, married, and the second most senior politician in California.”

They had a relationship, so damn what? Willie Brown had been separated from his wife for over 10 years.

Fact-Checking the False Claims About Kamala Harris

John বলেছেন...

Even if Harris's poll bounce is minimal or non-existent, I don't see how the Democrats are going to be able to pull off two substitute candidates in one election cycle. The lowest of low information voters will be catching on that there must be chaos in the Party if they do that. Plus, unless they get Michelle, the black voters are going to go home and sulk. And if they try to do the substitution at the convention, the riots outside will be legion, because some group is going to get cut out in that deal, and the everyday Chicago rioters won't be able to hold back once the fun begins. So I don't see them doing this again until at least 2028.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Inga said...

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/23/nx-s1-5048890/elections-poll-biden-harris-trump

Thank you for linking that Inga. Now the adults and people with an IQ above 90 can take a look around.

Everyone can already guess what is going on here but I will give you the TLDR.

"This one-day survey of 1,309 adults was conducted July 22nd, 2024.

...

"There are 1,117 registered voters.

...

"There are 846 registered voters who definitely plan to vote in November’s general election.

...

There are 515 Democrats and Democratic leaning independents."

So the sample was either 46% democrats, or they included unregistered voters which would still be 39.3% which is still a grotesque over sample of Democrats.

With a 46% democrat sample Trump is at 46% and Harris is at 45%.

Now just say that out loud. A poll with 46% democrats in the sample shows Harris at 45% against Trump.

Moore/Beshear 2024 campaign ads are being worked up right now.

Rusty বলেছেন...

Well. The guy behind the camers was black.

Drago বলেছেন...

More NPR/Marist poll details;

"Trump has 34% of the black vote in the NPR/Marist Poll, leads among whites by the same margin he led Biden, and among indies by a larger margin than he led Clinton.

The partisan advantage is D+6."

LOL

Greg the Class Traitor বলেছেন...

Inga said...
“In 1994 Kamala Harris was 29, in her first job as a prosecutor in the Alameda County DA's Office, and had a taste for the finer things in life. Willie Brown was 60, married, and the second most senior politician in California.”

They had a relationship, so damn what? Willie Brown had been separated from his wife for over 10 years.


She traded sex for jobs.

If you don't have a problem with that, I guess we need to get rid of all sexual harassment law

Drago বলেছেন...

Inga reads polls like a possum performs open heart surgery.

Dr.Bunkypotatohead বলেছেন...

It sounds like they want her to present the vision of The Editorial Board of The Washington Post to voters.

Iman বলেছেন...

Omen V: The Rebranding

Starring Quemala Harris

Drago বলেছেন...

BUMBLE BEE: "It's the first time Kamala has been promoted because a man pulled out."

Hiyooooooooooo!

Where's Ed McMahon when you need him?

Achilles বলেছেন...

I am just going to finish with the hopium: I hope to god that Kamala Harris is the nominee after the convention. Please let her be the candidate.

It just is not very likely to happen.

Democrat Convention is not until August 19-22nd. 26 days. I didn't realize it was that late. Kinda shocking actually.

We are most likely talking about an open convention in less than a week. The usual suspects will be talking about how this is the best strategy and how this was always the plan.

Yancey Ward বলেছেন...

The problem, Inga, is that a statistical tie will lead to an overwhelming electoral win for Trump, or did you not pay any attention at all to the results of the last two elections? A statistical tie right now is Trump performing almost 10 points better than he did at the exact same point in 2020. Even worse, the poll you cite way oversampled Democrats versus Republicans. In short, that poll is an outlier in both result and method. Almost certainly one paid for by the Democrat Party but run under Reuters. But, sure run with that one- it will all turn to shit for you anyway with a short half-life.

jpg বলেছেন...

You are always "wavering." Why not commit? For once
instead of dithering like Hamlet?