"While Justice Alito has stated that he had nothing to do with this flag hoisting, the incident, we are told, somehow amounts to evidence that the Alitos supported Donald Trump's 'stop the steal' campaign. Where does that connection come from? A search of the Factiva news database turns up no articles containing the phrases 'stop the steal' and 'upside down flag' before the Times report on May 16. Rather than retreat in humiliation, the Times doubled down this week with a follow-up report of yet another flag... spotted at the Alitos' vacation home in New Jersey. The left tells us that the 1775 Pine Tree flag was spotted among Jan. 6 protesters! And moreover, that its catch phrase, 'an appeal to heaven,' derives from a radical character —John Locke. The Times somehow fails to let readers know that the flag is a longtime symbol of independence; that it was designed by George Washington's secretary; was flown on ships commissioned by Washington; has been honored, commemorated and flown over state capitols; and is the official maritime flag of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts...."
Writes Kimberley A. Strassel, in "A Flagging Campaign Against Justice Alito/The ‘ethics’ attack having failed, the left turns to flag etiquette" (Wall Street Journal).
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৬৭টি মন্তব্য:
The left are desperate a-holes.
Free speech - not allowed.
Would these people be the same people that quite literally force and push their ever-changing-phag-flag into every situation and upon everyone regardless of "etiquette"? Remember this? Asking for a friend.
The media's penchant for constant outrage and hysteria is entering silly season.
Amazing. I followed the upside-down flag non-story, and I had seen the appeal to heaven story, but I had no idea the broad use and background of the appeal to heaven flag.
This truly makes clear that the Times has become an alternating case of decent journalism and absolute trash, both published in the same place under the same leadership, and therefore unreliable at best.
It's almost impossible to hold or have conversations with the politically illiterate mob the left has become. I don't see it getting better anytime soon. Keep your powder dry.
The Pine Tree Rebellion was a precursor and catalyst for the Revolution, and came about because of the Royal Navy's claim on the best trees from American forests, private ownership be damned.
Fuck the Left.
Can the corrupt Merrick DOJ have Alito arrested? Brought up on a federal felony?
An upside down flag is so very serious.
Biden's illegal open southern border? all fine and dandy.
It might be a crazy pointless story, but it got His Holiness Alito to blame his wife for the desecration of Old Glory. So it's pretty cool we now have direct evidence he is willing to throw anybody under the bus to cover his ass. This is the typical response we expect from a low T soy boy.
If you Google "Appeal to Heaven flag at Black Lives Matter rally" you won't find a picture of the flag at a BLM rally until you add the word: Twitter. Thanks Elon.
The Democrats are pushing another Pee Tape again.
Flag etiquette is military training, not for free citizens. Beware of people bearing flags, is the citizen version. No politician has fewer than six flags in the background.
Howard said...It might be a crazy pointless story, but it got His Holiness Alito to blame his wife for the desecration of Old Glory.
Keep going. It'll be lemonade eventually. (Hint: Alito couldn't throw his wife under the bus because there was no bus to throw her under. Neither he nor she did anything wrong. But you just go ahead and keep trying.)
"pretense of seriousness"?
They're perfectly serious about promoting the narrative, confirming prog bias, and mobilizing the troops (and making a little money from the business model). No pretense about it.
its catch phrase, 'an appeal to heaven,' derives from a radical character —John Locke.
But WAIT! There's MORE!!!!
I Happen To KNOW.. FOR A FACT that the "heroes" of these right wing Trumpsters..
WERE NOT ONLY TAX EVADERS! AND VANDALS THEY ACTUALLY ATTEMPTED TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT!!!
you Probably don't think i'm being serious.. BUT, IT IS TRUE!
They didn't Just evade taxes.. they ATTACKED and TORTURED innocent tax collectors; with Tar (and Feathers!)
AND they didn't stop THERE. They STOLE GOVERNMENT WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION from Ft Ticonderoga,
and used "cannons" to force THE GOVERNMENT to remove its forces from Boston MA.
AND they didn't stop THERE. They continued their insurrection against The Government for MANY years!
AND, THEY DID IT UNDER THAT "FLAG" THAT "JUSTICE" ALITO FLEW AT HIS HOUSE!!!
Unless YOU are the sort of person that would Approve of THAT.. YOU had BETTER vote BIDEN!!
Howard will drink media piss and call it lemonade all day long.
Kim Strassel used to be a good columnist for the Journal. This is TrumpWing garbage.
"While Justice Alito has stated that he had nothing to do with this flag hoisting, the incident, we are told, somehow amounts to evidence that the Alitos supported Donald Trump’s “stop the steal” campaign. Where does that connection come from? A search of the Factiva news database turns up no articles containing the phrases “stop the steal” and “upside down flag” before the Times report on May 16."
What a stupid paragraph. Alito's blaming his wife has been a laughable excuse from the start. If there was nothing wrong with the flag gesture, Ms. Strassel, why was any excuse-making necessary? Why blame the wife? Why not aggressively and assertively defend Ms. Alito's speechifying? Do it on the merits? Say exactly why you did it and what it meant, and what your inspiration was?
And then what about the Pine Tree flag at the Alitos' Jersey shore vacation home? Was that Mrs. Alito too? Did the Alitos run into problems with libtard neighbors there too? (And when the hell did flying Tea Party/StopTheSteal flags become a really clever answer to a verbal dustup with neighbors?) Again, if it was a patriotic gesture, then just explain it. Forcefully. Clearly. Convincingly. But nobody is doing that. The Alitos weren't flying an upside down flag because their house was in distress. They weren't flying the Pine Tree flag as part of an Eighteenth Century nautical history display.
The bit about the Factiva word-search is equally laughable, if indeed it is even true. Memo to Ms. Strassel; a Google search of January 6 Capitol images shows a number of Pine Tree flags and upside down flags being brandished by the insurrectionists. We in the real world of information have been looking at those images for days now. You should too.
There is more:
"The left tells us that the 1775 Pine Tree flag was spotted among Jan. 6 protesters! And moreover, that its catch phrase, 'an appeal to heaven,' derives from a radical character—John Locke.
"The Times somehow fails to let readers know that the flag is a longtime symbol of independence; that it was designed by George Washington’s secretary; was flown on ships commissioned by Washington; has been honored, commemorated and flown over state capitols; and is the official maritime flag of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. It is currently displayed outside the office of the speaker of the House. Dozens of historic flags were toted to the Capitol on Jan. 6, as were copies of the Constitution and pictures of the American eagle. Are they all now symbols of 'insurrection'?"
That's not telling any of us anything new. Basically everybody was aware of those historical connections. I certainly knew of them. Just like I knew that the Gadsden flag (coiled snake on a background of yellow with the words, "Don't Tread On Me") has an acknowledged historical reference, but most importantly now, a new connection as a spiritual flag of the Tea Party movement. There were Gadsden flags at the January 6 insurrection riot as well, of course.
Look, Kimberley; it isn't helping your argument that the Speaker of the House also has his own Pine Tree flag. Speaker Johnson is going along with the insurrectionist Presidential candidate who proposes to pardon all of the January 6 rioters even as he is being sued by Capitol Police Officers who where injured that day.
These are all flags and symbols that have historical meanings. Meanings which, it is obvious to everyone but you, are being systematically converted by the TrumpWing to support insurrection and authoritarianism. It takes a lot of fucking nerve to wave around the Constitution while at the same time talking about oh just maybe suspending the parts that Trump doesn't find so useful.
I think this is all battle-space prep- the Democrats are, of course, planning to go to court themselves if, by some miracle, Trump wins in November despite the avalanche of mail-in-"votes". If Trump wins, the Democrats will do all the exact same things Trump did November-January 2020-21, and probably at double or triple the intensity. The difference will be that the Democrats will get a far more favorable audience in the court system everywhere but for SCOTUS, so they are already attacking SCOTUS in preparation for that eventuality.
The writings of John Locke were well-known to the Founding Fathers. Our Founders were radical. The idea that free people can govern themselves - and not be told what to do by elites - is a radical idea rejected by the WaPo and NYT.
It takes a lot of fucking nerve to wave around the Constitution while at the same time talking about oh just maybe suspending the parts that Trump doesn't find so useful.
Like which parts?
And compared to what, as Douglas Murray says?
probably we saw how they behaved in 2016, the guerilla attack on innauguration day, the poisoning of the attending we haven't forgotten,
nor wannabe guevara bill ayers, stamping on the flag
Howard: “ It might be a crazy pointless story, but it got His Holiness Alito to blame his wife for the desecration of Old Glory.”
According to 18 US Code 700 “ (1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.”
You are a one man parade of ignorance on stilts.
"However, with the rise of American resistance to British taxation, the Second Treatise of Government gained a new readership; it was frequently cited in the debates in both America and Britain. The first American printing occurred in 1773 in Boston."
From Wikipedia
Democrats- the party of "flag burning is free speech"- are now pontificating on flag etiquette? How cute.
How can any rational person call John Locke a radical? His entire life was devoted to anti-radical thought. The level of stupidity among the left is mind boggling.
Media in disbelief? Media seriousness? Or, media "talent" is just uneducated talking heads?
This mainly shows that Network, Ron Burgundy, and WKRP in Cincinnati were documentaries. The looming arrival of AI Max Headroom in every news organization will surely reflect a step up in quality.
Uh oh!
LLR-democratical And Violent Homosexual Rage Rape Fantasist Chuckles, who has been in bizarre and cringy and greasy Eddie Haskill Mode the last several days, has once again returned to "War and Peace" length BS offerings in the desperate hope that he can "win" "teh interwebs" for his beloved democraticals simply by adding volume to his moronic democratical lies and transparent misrepresentaions.
We've seen this schizophrenic act before and its usually a pre-cursor to a gin and tonic infused attack against Althouse via direct message.
We can only hope Althouse can easily weather another of the coming LLR-democratical Brigade "storms".
Poor Chuck!
Despite ALL his hard efforts;
not only is the Althouse readership supporting Trump, but the ENTIRE country is too!
Poor Chuck!
You KNOW what would teach us ALL our folly? if Chuck took himself away from us.
now, i AM NOT telling Chuck to commit suicide just to spite us..
i'm JUST saying; it would REALLY Teach US A LESSON, if he did...
I for one, might be ruefully sad if Chuck took his own life next november. REALLY Chuck! i Might BE!
"The Times somehow fails to let readers know that the flag is a longtime symbol of independence; that it was designed by George Washington's secretary; was flown on ships commissioned by Washington; has been honored, commemorated and flown over state capitols; and is the official maritime flag of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts ..."
That's exactly what they are objecting to. It's American. They hate America almost as much as they hate Americans.
gilbar said...
Poor Chuck!
Despite ALL his hard efforts;
not only is the Althouse readership supporting Trump, but the ENTIRE country is too!
Poor Chuck!
You KNOW what would teach us ALL our folly? if Chuck took himself away from us.
now, i AM NOT telling Chuck to commit suicide just to spite us..
i'm JUST saying; it would REALLY Teach US A LESSON, if he did...
I for one, might be ruefully sad if Chuck took his own life next november. REALLY Chuck! i Might BE!
Bookmarked.
Hey Skipper said,
"You are a one man parade of ignorance on stilts."
I am using this. Thanks.
I don't know so much as the left is ignorant of our founding history as much as they are embarrassed by it.
Now (no pun intended) it matters.
All's fair in lust and abor... leverage.
Is there a limit to how many bookmarks a browser can keep for you?
Asking for Chuck the Cunt.
Poor Mark. He really believes these conspiracies from the NYT.
Flag etiquette, okay. But the fascist terrorist left promoting hamass slaughter of the jews is perfectly acceptable. Ignorant leftist twats parading around wrapped in the palestinian flag is perfectly okay. But a citizen making a statement with American flags is offensive, right,sure. How about you fascist turds bugger off and be grateful that no one has terminated you, yet.
'Flailing' is the world that comes to mind as I watch the left react to events around them.
Nothing is proceeding as planned. They are seeing bogeymen behind every curtain, whispers in every breeze, and the NYT is there to cover it all as 'the paper of record'.
This is what it looks like when an ideology is falling on its face. Look over there. A flag! A flag! Off with his head!!
So does Ketanji Brown Jackson have to recuse herself from any case regarding women's rights since she has admitted she doesn't know what a woman is?
Not John Locke!?!
Why is Chuck still here? And why is Rich absent so far today? Hmmmm
Yancey Ward said...
Is there a limit to how many bookmarks a browser can keep for you?
https://superuser.com/questions/1425094/is-there-a-maximum-number-of-bookmarks-in-firefox
the bookmarks and history are stored in the SQLite database named places.sqlite.
As a database can grow as much as required, I don't think that there is really any limit.
(Note: If I myself haven't run out of bookmarks or history with my 3734 bookmarks and many thousands of history entries, you won't either.)
GOOD NEWS for Chuck!
Hopefully, this will help with his depression, and MAYBE he WON'T be driven to suicide!
Hey Skipper. Made you flinch. Revealing your true colors as an anal retentive frustrated bureaucrat. This is the exact type of response we all expect from Chuck. What a Maroon 🤣
Blogger Hey Skipper said...
Howard: “ It might be a crazy pointless story, but it got His Holiness Alito to blame his wife for the desecration of Old Glory.”
According to 18 US Code 700 “ (1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.”
You are a one man parade of ignorance on stilts.
These are all flags and symbols that have historical meanings. Meanings which, it is obvious to everyone but you, are being systematically converted by the TrumpWing to support insurrection and authoritarianism.
Wrong, Chuck. They've ALWAYS stood for insurrection, if that is the only way to preserve our liberty. "Defiance to tyranny is obedience to God". Our forefathers very much intended that their descendants should always be prepared and willing to engage in violent armed insurrection, mercilessly slaughtering any who dared oppress us, if there were no alternative to enslavement. This is an admirable and noble sentiment that should be cultivated widely among the people. That's the explicit purpose of the Second Amendment, and the Federalist Papers and other writings of the Founding Fathers make it crystal-clear to everyone except bootlicking Democrats who crave the lash of Big Nanny Government on their backs.
And they've never stood for authoritarianism, now or formerly. Again, that's the province of the Deep State Democrats. "Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
America cannot survive another January 6th. We must let Trump become president whether or not he wins the election. ~ Althouse commentariat
LOL! Rich. Who is this "we" who must "let Trump win"? Be specific.
LLR-democratical Rich: "America cannot survive another January 6th. We must let Trump become president whether or not he wins the election. ~ Althouse commentariat"
When you've been making up fake quotes, deceptively edited videos, wild and easily debnked hoaxes and pure lies for all these years it becomes a way of life...as Rich and the LLR-democratical dopes amply demonstrate every single day.
He did not blame his wife. He explained her reason:
“It was briefly placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor's use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs.” A Fox host later reported that “the neighbor put up a sign personally addressing Mrs. Alito and blaming her for the Jan 6th attacks.”
Where were all the left wing incense led by Dickhead Durbin when the Hamas- sponsored terrorist rioters at UNC tried to assault the university president and illegally flew the Palestinian flag until a group of frat bros (of all people) blocked them from further acts of treason and vandalism?
Hmmmmm?
Leave it to a couple of jealous minor leaguers like "Twister" chuck and "weeper" Rich to attempt to disparage a true American hero like Justice Alito.
What pussies!
I was unimpressed by the "Appeal to Heaven" flag story. Who cares.
But I was deeply distuirbed by an active Supreme Court justice hanging the American flag upsidedown. 4 USC § 8 "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." His action was far too policitical for someone who is supposed to be a neutral purveyor of justice, and was disrespectful to the flag.
Alito's excuse – blaming his wife – was also pathetic. I judge you, sir, by who you chose to marry, and then throw under the bus!
Hey Dick,
You do realize that insurrection an conspiracy are enshrined in the very blood of the United States of America, don't you?
The individual British colonies, which had little in common with each other besides location conspired with each other in an "insurrection"
Insurrection is as American as apple pie and motherhood.
John Henry
Perhaps appropo of the insurrection theme
Remember a few months ago when Brandon was saying it would be impossible to have an insurrection because the feds had F-16s and nuclear weapons? I think he's said similar on other occasions as well.
Did anyone besides me recall that when he tried to take the Texas air national guard's F-16?
Texas is suing to keep them.
Good for Texas
John Henry
Blogger Yancey Ward said...
LOL! Rich. Who is this "we" who must "let Trump win"? Be specific.
Indeed. I and several others wanted Vivek or someone else, but Democrats cronies made sure Trump trials took up all the oxygen in the room, because “Trump” in a headline gets clicks. I think it was the left interfering with the GOP primary that made sure Trump would win it, because they thought there disqualification nonsense would work. Now that it is Trump as the nominee; he wins over FJB, and FJB is making sure RFK doesn’t make it to the DNC convention.
"Can the corrupt Merrick DOJ have Alito arrested?"
They have sent a message to Cuba asking for one of their judges...That way our NY Juan will have someone to compare notes with.
A lot of the really old homes in New England feature very wide pine floorboards. My parents had one, for a while, but it was only later that I learned that this was done as a form of protest, thumbing one's nose at the king, by having proof without evidence of a crime on the floors of your home, and walking on it every day. What was it, again - Every pine tree in excess of 24" diameter claimed by the King, for supplying the masts in his glorious Navy - later reduced to 12"?
Mark quick, look and see if Justice Alito traded his Target shares for Walmart. You might get him this time!
It's amazing how upset the left is by patriots flying various historical US flags, whether it be the Gadsden or otherwise.
These are the same people who scream that it is ok to tear down the US Flag and fly a Palestinian flag in its place... the same people who demand that we accept a judge who donates to Biden be handpicked to be the judge for Biden's political opponent... and yet they have their panties in a wad over Alito flying the US Flag upside down as a sign of distress.
Flying the American Flag upside down is a well-known signal of distress. On January 6 didn't both pro-Trumpists and pro-Bidenists regard the US as being in distress? The pro-Bidenists even called it an "Insurrection." The only reason I can see that this symbol would be more likely to be interpreted as Pro-Trump than Pro-Biden is if you think that the pro-Trump folks are more likely to honor the flag than the pro-Biden folks.
America cannot survive another January 6th. We must let Trump become president whether or not he wins the election.
If you hadn't stolen it in 2020, Trump would be on his way out and you wouldn't be forced to lick Biden's boots.
But you did and here we are.
Thanks. Thanks a lot.
Who cares?
Democrats violate the norms of recusals every chance they get.
Exhibit A is the Merchan debacle.
Never give in to communists...
I wonder what flag is flying over senator Whithouse' lily-white beach club?
Something with a KKK theme?
One of the things I observe and pay attention to while driving around is flags.
In Texas, if there are two or more flagpoles at a residence, one of them has a Texas flag on it.
In NY, where I live, only commercial establishments and government buildings display the state flag. I haven't really noticed the presence or lack thereof of state flags in other states. But since Texans view themselves as Texans first, Americans second, there's no surprise.
Around here in CNY if there's one or more flags displayed, and none of them are US flags it's almost 100% certain the occupants of that dwelling are liberals. And the flag(s) flying is a rainbow or BLM or Palestinian or other virtue signaling flag.
If one flagpole with one flag and it's a standard 50 star US flag, there's a possibility the occupants are Democrat, but I wouldn't bet on it one way or another. If there's one American flag and it's a historical US flag such as The Betsy Ross or Bennington 76 flag- it's a Republican house.
If there's a Gadsden flag on display with a US flag- a conservative Republican house. If there's a military branch flag flying with the US flag it tells you someone in the house served in that branch. With a 50 star flag tells you nothing about the politics in the residence. With a Bennington 76 flag...
I have 3 flagpoles, 6 flags. Replaced on a regular basis. It's windy on top of the hill we live on. The top 3 are always- Bennington 76, US Navy, and the generic Christian flag. Under the Navy flag it's either the Gadsden flag or the historic Navy Jack. Both display the same message. Currently under the Bennington 76 flag is the Gonzalez flag, under the Christian flag is the Bedford flag. Those two get changed up randomly with other historic flags. The Bunker Hill, Fort Moultrie, and Templar Knights flag have all had a turn.
Care to guess my political leanings?
While I likely have views in common with those who display the Thin Blue Line flag, that one will never be on display on my flagpoles. I'm not fond of any flag that's superimposed on an American flag. Want to send a message? Design your own flag from scratch,
Anyone flying the South Park flag?
Oh, like Leftists care about the flag...
Gilbar said: “I for one, might be ruefully sad if Chuck took his own life next november. REALLY Chuck! i Might BE!”
Chuck responded:
“Bookmarked.”
and with that, Chuck straightened his skirt and left the building.
So now we discover that the WAPO has been sitting on the Alito upside-down flag story for over three years after interviewing the Alitos in their yard. So we are drawn to "The Uncelestial City", by Humbert Wolfe, a book-length posthumous fantasy in verse from 1930. A gag about newspapermen survives the out-of-print writing:
You cannot hope
to bribe or twist,
thank God! the
British journalist.
But, seeing what
the man will do
unbribed, there's
no occasion to.
Gospace,
Definitely do not fly the Thin Blue Line flag -- it's a great insult to the Anglo-American tradition of what the police should be.
Peel's seventh point illustrates the problem:
"To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."
The implication that the police are the only thing standing between us and chaos is much more appropriate for polities that have a gendarmerie, and we all know what that kind of a police force is descended from.
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