२८ डिसेंबर, २०२३

At the Thursday Night Café....

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... you can write about whatever you want.

(The photo is another photo from the plane yesterday afternoon. I didn't wake up for the sunrise today. It's as if I was jet-lagged, but I'd only gone to Texas and had not changed time zones.)

५८ टिप्पण्या:

Clyde म्हणाले...

Clyde's Top 15 Favorite "New" Songs of 2023 - #4 - "The Golden State" - John Doe (Feat. Kathleen Edwards) - A Year in the Wilderness (2007)

John Doe is no stranger to singing duets, having sung with ex-wife Exene Cervenka in the punk band X, and he did a number of versions of this particular song, but I liked this version, which appeared on the original album, the best. It got a lot of play this year.

John Doe (Feat. Kathleen Edwards) - The Golden State

Bonus Song - "Pecan Pie" - Golden Smog - Down By the Old Mainstream (1995)

Continuing with today's "Golden" theme, here's a great song from Golden Smog that I really only played a lot this year but had almost certainly heard a year or two ago when I went through and listened to Golden Smog's entire catalog, making it ineligible for my Top 15. Jeff Tweedy singing about pecan pie actually got me jonesing for some before Christmas, but when I decided to pick one up at Publix, they were all out! I ended up getting a coconut custard pie that day instead, but today, there was pecan pie in the bakery section. Guess who has pecan pie in the fridge?

Golden Smog - Pecan Pie

Drago म्हणाले...

POS Hamas 7th Century Death Cult Fanboy Li'l Crack-y hardest hit:

New York Times story from today, now that enough Jewish victims of Li'L Crack-y's beloved Hamasite terrorists have recovered sufficiently to tell their stories of the atrocities of 10/7 and beyond.

Readers of Althouse blog will recall Li'l Crack-y actually claiming the Jewish victims being terrorized, witnesses to horrors, kidnap victims and abuse victims by Hamas was the equivalent of a "yoga class".

Li'l Crack-y should never be allowed to forget what he wrote and what it exposed.

From the article today:

"Undeniable evidence and multiple verified accounts of Hamas brutal rape on October 7th, confirmed by the New York Times:

The first victim she said she saw was a young woman with copper-color hair, blood running down her back, pants pushed down to her knees. One man pulled her by the hair and made her bend over. Another penetrated her, Sapir said, and every time she flinched, he plunged a knife into her back.

She said she then watched another woman “shredded into pieces.” While one terrorist raped her, she said, another pulled out a box cutter and sliced off her breast.

“One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,” Sapir said.

She said the men sliced her face and then the woman fell out of view. Around the same time, she said, she saw three other women raped and terrorists carrying the severed heads of three more women.

Sapir provided photographs of her hiding place and her wounds, and police officials have stood by her testimony and released a video of her, with her face blurred, recounting some of what she saw.

Yura Karol, a 22-year-old security consultant, said he was hiding in the same spot, and he can be seen in one of Sapir’s photos. He and Sapir were part of a group of friends who had met up at the party. In an interview, Mr. Karol said he barely lifted his head to look at the road but he also described seeing a woman raped and killed."

nytimes.com/2023/12/28

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Callin it quits?

The White House signals to Politico that the war in Ukraine will end through negotiation, probably by giving up territory, something which if you said 6 months ago made you Putin's right hand man https://t.co/qkOPu0Lv6n pic.twitter.com/vacxWoKofr

-- Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) December 27, 2023

Were you a Putin Puppet?

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Blinken says

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1738219332449239101?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1738219332449239101%7Ctwgr%5E6ede78b44e35406d715a448c7706d8523aed524d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Face.mu.nu%2F

Just like Afghanistan?

FullMoon म्हणाले...

The first victim she said she saw was a young woman with copper-color hair, blood running down her back, pants pushed down to her knees. One man pulled her by the hair and made her bend over. Another penetrated her, Sapir said, and every time she flinched, he plunged a knife into her back.
She said she then watched another woman “shredded into pieces.” While one terrorist raped her, she said, another pulled out a box cutter and sliced off her breast.

“One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,” Sapir said.

She said the men sliced her face and then the woman fell out of view. Around the same time, she said, she saw three other women raped and terrorists carrying the severed heads of three more women.


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/12/what-happened-on-october-7.php

mikee म्हणाले...

Althouse, what you're feeling is your body's natural inclination to recognize its removal from Texas, and its protest against that. Quick symptomatic relief can be had by imbibing a margarita, or a few bites of jerky. Otherwise, your disappointment at no longer being in Texas will last for a while.

lonejustice म्हणाले...

This cloud picture is creating flashbacks for me from one of my best mushroom trips. Thanks!

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

So, the top guy at UW-La Crosse was fired doing porn with his wife and selling it. They also wrote two books. The AMZN page for the books has their picture. Surprised this wasn't discovered sooner. But he keeps his tenured job as a professor of "communications." I suppose he can teach his students how to communicate on social media and make some money.

What's worse? Claudine Gay at Harvard or this guy at UW - La Crosse? Funny that Harvard won't fire an academic cheater.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Why are liberals so fascist?

Why don't they want citizens to make their own decisions?

Humperdink म्हणाले...

Maine's Secretary of State has surfaced with a bit of news. Hard core conservative AG's need to roll out some indictments. 2024 will be a year few Americans will ever forget.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

“Death has no power to change moral qualities. What was bad before the war, and during the war, has not been made good since the war. … Whatever else I may forget, I shall never forget the difference between those who fought for liberty and those who fought for slavery.”

- Frederick Douglass

robother म्हणाले...

While you were...lagged, the country came apart. Within the next week we will see every Dem. Secretary of State who hasn't been blocked rush to join Maine in banning Trump from the Republican ballot. Absent a quick decisive ruling by SCOTUS cutting off all independent state action, hard to see how this doesn't continue through the election and the counting of votes. The chaos is of course predictable, and presumably part of the Progressive plan: is suspension of 24 election the real goal?

As with Dred Scot, first we get the lawfare, then we get the warfare.

walter म्हणाले...

I thought lone justice might have died. Turns out just shrooming.

walter म्हणाले...

"So, the top guy at UW-La Crosse was fired doing porn with his wife and selling it."
Gig economy

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

They are going to need something bigger to stop Trump.

I just hope it doesn't kill as many people this time.

Mike of Snoqualmie म्हणाले...

Blogger Joe Smith said...
Why are liberals so fascist?

Why don't they want citizens to make their own decisions?

12/28/23, 7:28 PM

Because Liberals are no longer liberals, they've moved left to become progressives. Progressivism at its heart is fascism. Just like Nazism, Communism and any other ism that puts the state at the center.

Everything the Democrat Party does decivilizes us. Criminals, the climate hoax, homelessness, fake-gender ideology, lawfare, the Russia Hoax, CRT, DIE. The MSM spews out hate every day and liberals just suck it down like mother's milk.

The Democrat Party is now the Decivilizers Party.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

riding inside a metal mailing tube is hard on the body.

NKP म्हणाले...

Election of a president affects all states. It is a national election.

Any individual state, by whatever means, acts to prevent its citizens from voting for their preferred candidate, is interfering in an election. Book 'em, Danno!

Big Mike म्हणाले...

@Crack (7:58), how about those who fought for the right of Arab men to rape, torture, and murder Jewish women just because they were Jewish women? Like you and rcocean and Claudine Gay and, apparently, a significant fraction of the undergraduates at Harvard? No, that emphatically does not put you or rcocean in good company.

Clyde म्हणाले...

Fixing the missing link...

Bonus Song - "Pecan Pie" - Golden Smog - Down By the Old Mainstream (1995)
Continuing with today's "Golden" theme, here's a great song from Golden Smog that I really only played a lot this year but had almost certainly heard a year or two ago when I went through and listened to Golden Smog's entire catalog, making it ineligible for my Top 15. Jeff Tweedy singing about pecan pie actually got me jonesing for some before Christmas, but when I decided to pick one up at Publix, they were all out! I ended up getting a coconut custard pie that day instead, but today, there was pecan pie in the bakery section. Guess who has pecan pie in the fridge?

Golden Smog - Pecan Pie

Big Mike म्हणाले...

@Humperdink (7:32), perhaps the Maine Secretary of State (Shenna Bellows, a Democrat) saw internal polls that suggested Trump would carry Maine pretty handily over Joe Biden? It’s hard to believe that she’d take the step of ordering Trump removed from the ballot if she believed Biden would win the state.

wendybar म्हणाले...

THIS is WHY you need a gun. This happened in 2013. She wouldn't have been raped if they had somebody to send. The police can't protect you. Listen for yourself.....

https://x.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1740147181724848513?s=20

Spike Cohen
@RealSpikeCohen
·
Dec 27
For those wondering how this ended:
Quote
Dr. Gregory Coffin (Critical GDX Theory)

·
Dec 27
Replying to @RealSpikeCohen
Broke in and raped her. https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329375/amp/Woman-choked-raped-abusive-ex-boyfriend-dispatcher-informs-cops-help--instead-tells-victim-just-ask-attacker-leave.html

wendybar म्हणाले...

Biden and Mayorkis should be impeached and imprisoned for this. THIS is Treason.


John Hasson
@SonofHas

Put differently: DOJ is threatening to sue Texas for securing the Texas border
Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
BREAKING: DOJ is threatening to sue Texas if it moves forward with its strict new border security law, which is set to take effect in March and would allow TX authorities to arrest & deport anyone who crosses into TX illegally. @benwermund w/ the scoop: https://houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/justice-department-threatens-sue-texas-new-border-18578418.php
2:37 PM · Dec 28, 2023

wendybar म्हणाले...

THIS is what Progressives are fighting FOR....THIS is why they are having little hissy fits in the streets of America. NOT for the victims....for the assailants. THIS is what the Progressive party stands for. Wake the hell up-. This DESERVES war.

"The Times viewed photographs of one woman’s corpse that emergency responders discovered in the rubble of a besieged kibbutz with dozens of nails driven into her thighs and groin."

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/12/the-times-viewed-photographs-of-one-womans-corpse-with-dozens-of-nails-driven-into-her-thighs-and-groin/

wendybar म्हणाले...

Mayorkis belongs behind bars....


Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_

Continue its efforts? What efforts? Mexico is enabling the chaos at the border by mass issuing humanitarian visas to migrants that allow them to travel through MX straight to the U.S. border…then they discard the visas on the ground when they cross illegally. And the trains?!
Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas
@SecMayorkas
We had a very productive meeting with President @lopezobrador_ and members of his Cabinet today in Mexico City. The regional challenge of migration requires regional solutions, and we appreciate Mexico’s commitment to continue its efforts alongside us and with others.
9:13 PM · Dec 27, 2023

tim maguire म्हणाले...

Drago said..."Undeniable evidence and multiple verified accounts of Hamas brutal rape on October 7th, confirmed by the New York Times:

I sense the definition of “evidence” is about to change again.

wendybar म्हणाले...

"One would not think a campaign based on hate for one man can possibly succeed, but the Democrats know their stenographers in what passes for our “news media,” helped by banana republic “lawfare” in the courts, will push their destructive anti-American message. Given Biden’s disastrous record, what choice do they have? "

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/12/bidens_campaign_message_2024.html

wendybar म्हणाले...

"The left is terrified of Trump winning with more than half the county’s support. More than half of America’s citizens are unitedly opposed to the left’s liberal policies, a weaponized federal government, the goal of fundamentally transforming America, and anti-Trump judges twisting laws to convict him or remove him from the ballot (as in Colorado). The voters clearly see this “Leftest Insurrection,” and they will save America!"


https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/12/the_fall_of_one_capital_the_threat_to_another.html

wendybar म्हणाले...

Moral of the story......Progressives ALWAYS lie.


"Maine's Democrat Governor Janet Mills has been branded a liar by the National Weather Service after claiming its forecasters didn't warn her about a historic storm.

The esteemed federal agency lashed Mills after she was slammed for failing to adequately warn locals that up to half a foot of rain would fall on December 18, causing huge floods and leaving 400,000 without power.

Mills put her foot in it last Wednesday while touring flood-battered Kennebec County, saying: 'The National Weather Service did not predict five or six inches of rain in any community in Maine.'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12907823/maine-governor-janet-mills-liar.html

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Good question above. What’s to stop Dem Secretaries of State from removing Trump from the ballot even if SCOTUS rules otherwise?

Jaq म्हणाले...

Remember when Hillary violated laws regarding federal records and the penalty was disqualification to hold any federal office, and the Democrats were writing editorials claiming that the presidency was not an "office."

“I’ve never seen anyone put their schedule in the burn bag – because every one of them had a state.gov email address and therefore their daily schedules became public records, as required by law,” Richard Grenell, former diplomat and US spokesman at the United Nations, told the Post.

Experts predict the circumstances surrounding the destroyed records will be intensely scrutinized. The Associated Press has been trying to obtain access to Clinton’s schedule and public and private calendars through Freedom of Information Acts from January 2009 to February 2013, and the wire service sued the State Department for the schedules in 2015.


https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/0705/Did-Hillary-Clinton-violate-protocol-by-using-burn-bags

It's Soviet Law, the man is what is important, not the facts of the case, or the law.

mezzrow म्हणाले...

"As the plagiarism allegations become impossible to deny, columnists from the Times and The Washington Post—John McWhorter and Ruth Marcus—are coming out to say she should resign now. Another shoe dropping: a group of researchers say that the paper that made Claudine Gay’s career is based on faulty data analysis and that, when asked by fellow researchers to share her raw data, Gay refused. Another shoe: one member of the Harvard board, Tracy Palandjian, said that the school needs more than just Gay’s ouster, but “generational change.”

I still think Claudine Gay is too big to fail. She is a symbol. And the perfect one for a once-great American institution running on prestige fumes and foreign dollars. Of course her papers are flawed and plagiarized. Of course she isn’t up for the actual task of the job. It’s part of the point of Claudine Gay being president of Harvard. It’s part of the statement. And I don’t mean the crude take that she got the job simply based on her identity, since Claudine herself has played a major role in smearing several truly great black academics throughout her career. No, the statement Claudine Gay as president of Harvard makes is that politics matter more than anything else. It’s actually better for the movement that her work is fake. Because it makes the message even clearer: mediocrity, so long as it’s wedded to ideology, is enough. We’ll even call mediocrity genius and give it the most prestigious academic job in the land, so long as you say just the right things about this list of issues. In conclusion, Claudine Gay is the perfect president of Harvard."


Claudine Gay is the perfect president of Harvard

narciso म्हणाले...

https://prussiagate.substack.com/p/trust-ze-science-part-v

hawkeyedjb म्हणाले...

"Undeniable evidence and multiple verified accounts of Hamas brutal rape on October 7th, confirmed by the New York Times"

This was all well known, very shortly after Hamas carried out the atrocities. A few days after the attacks, Secretary of State Blinken had viewed videos and photos and said "It's simply depravity in the worst imaginable way. It almost defies comprehension."

There are those who deny this happened. There are those who excuse it. There are those who cheer for it. Watch the videos of the orgiastic shrieking of the Gazans who spit on the mutilated bodies of dead women, and tell me the tales of the "innocent people of Gaza."

War is hell, and Hamas deserves every bit of it on their journey to the grave.

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

Dave Begley said...

"Good question above. What’s to stop Dem Secretaries of State from removing Trump from the ballot even if SCOTUS rules otherwise?"

Lawfare. Use their own weapon against them.

Humperdink म्हणाले...

> Comment from Zero Hedge (re: Maine Secretary of State): "Death by estrogen".

> Conservative Radio host Jesse Kelly (paraphrasing): Trump will never be president. They will stop at nothing.

Iman म्हणाले...

We are witnessing the treachery of America’s Democrat Party metastasize. This won’t end well.

Jersey Fled म्हणाले...

Are we finally coming to the point where even college educated white women realize the Biden has been a disaster?

Old and slow म्हणाले...

Crack and his ilk simply do not care about Hamas atrocities. They consider all that to be the rational response of a downtrodden victimized people. "They didn't do that, and if they did it is a good thing"

How anyone can support Hamas and feel like they are staking out the moral high ground is a mystery to me. Stupidity or evil? Quite possible both. That and a shared identity as perennial victims. It manages to be bloodthirsty, nauseating, and pathetic at the same time. Quite the trifecta, isn't it?

Lilly, a dog म्हणाले...

Since the UW-La Crosse story involves Nina Hartley, this scene from Boogie Nights seems appropriate:

https://streamable.com/u9hxoc

Drago म्हणाले...

Hamas 7th Century Death Cult Fanboy Li'l Crack-y seamlessly transitions from 2+ months of defending islamic supremacist murder of Israelis and rewriting of history to justify calling for the destruction of Israel to now quoting Frederick Douglass!

LOL

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

The Dollyrots rocking Auld Lang Syne.

Jaq म्हणाले...

In case anyone is wondering why Vermont is turning into a crime ridden shithole, there was a guy who pled guilty to his 16th felony, which included selling heroine and fentanyl, and his 10 year prison sentence was changed by the judge to 200 hours of community service.

Another drug dealer who not only was selling fentanyl and heroine, but who did a home invasion, and had a long record, also had his prison sentence changed by the judge to community service.

I saw this little local paper at a coffee shop in the Islands, and look at the story on page 2

https://www.theislandernewspaper.com/uploads/1/2/0/2/120245655/website_the_islander_december_13_2023.pdf

Basically, the Vermont Supreme Court has held that there is no need to consider deterrence in criminal sentencing, and the result is exactly as any thinking person would expect.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Callin it quits?

The White House signals to Politico that the war in Ukraine will end through negotiation, probably by giving up territory, something which if you said 6 months ago made you Putin's right hand man


@BUMBLE BEE (6:29), Zelenskyy could have had a better deal had he been allowed to/encouraged to negotiate after the Battle of Kharkiv 19 months ago, however thst would have cut off a year and a half of graft and kickbacks available to the Biden administration and other prominent Democrats.

wendybar म्हणाले...

Progressives are as delusional as their fraudulent president, and they are trying to force YOU to be too....


Stacey
@ScotsFyre

Are you drunk, sir? War broke out in Ukraine & Israel. Venezuela is about to invade Guyana, China in mulling Taiwan, our soldiers are routinely being fired on BY PIRATES, and you can’t get AMLO to turn off the migration spigot. This is just insane.
Secretary Antony Blinken

@SecBlinken
As I reflect on the miles traveled, countries visited, and intense diplomacy over the past year, I am proud of our work to build stronger partnerships and strengthen global peace and security. https://stories.state.gov/portraits-of-diplomacy/
10:02 AM · Dec 29, 2023

Ted Cruz
@tedcruz

I’m not sure the world can stand any more of this Biden “peace.”

Iman म्हणाले...

How now Joe Gow?

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Brilliant: right after the Rev. of Bethlehem said no apologies will be accepted for murder, Israel is apologizing for all the 'collateral damage' they've caused.

You can't make this shit up.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

"Speaking of getting cancelled, who are you guys supporting?"

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Swedish prime minister slips up: Israel has the right to ‘genocide’

Iman म्हणाले...

“You can't make this shit up.”

Go soak what passes for your head in a toilet.

wendybar म्हणाले...


Bill Melugin
·
Dec 29, 2023
@BillMelugin_

BREAKING: CBP sources tell FOX there have now been over 276,00 migrant encounters at the southern border in December, the highest single month ever recorded, breaking the prior record set in September at 269,735, and there are still 3 days of December left. Record is being shattered.
This new record number includes over 230,000 Border Patrol apprehensions of illegal immigrants in December, also the highest single month of apprehensions ever recorded for Border Patrol.
We are now at over 760,000 migrant encounters since October 1st, making the first quarter of fiscal year 2024 also the highest ever recorded. Thats a population size bigger than Seattle in just three months.
All records being blown out of the water under the Biden admin as the crisis gets worse - not better.
10:45 AM · Dec 29, 2023



Brick Suit
@Brick_Suit

Over 9 million illegal aliens so far in three years under Biden.

9,000,000

That's more people than the COMBINED population of Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Delaware, Rhode Island, Montana, and Maine.

It's an invasion.
11:03 AM · Dec 29, 2023

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Iman said...

"Go soak what passes for your head in a toilet."

Aww. Somebody doesn't handle opposing views, or facts, very well. Good. Give yourself a heart attack, baby killer.

NKP म्हणाले...

Crack seems like a guy who'd claim VA disability benefits for PTSD because his grandfather was a Vietnam vet.

Iman म्हणाले...

Chillax, Crackie, go screw teh pooch.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Somebody doesn't handle opposing views, or facts, very well. Good. Give yourself a heart attack, baby killer.

Opposing views are one thing. You’re entitled to hold opposing views, however idiotic or wrongheaded. Facts are something else. Even the bloody New York Times has been forced to admit that Hamas — as well as Palestinian civilians, including some children (according to survivors of the attacks) — committed atrocities on October 7th. How many Palestinians have really been killed by the IDF? Not enough to convince Hamas to surrender. So the killing will continue, as it should. It doesn’t concern me that Palestinian babies may be accidentally killed — first, because Israeli babies were deliberately killed on October 7th, and secondly because Hamas can surrender at any time and all the killing will stop. Ball’s in their court.

And I still think you are a sick MFer for demanding to see videos of women being gang-raped, tortured, and murdered. Is it because those victims were white?

wendybar म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Big Mike said...

"Even the bloody New York Times has been forced to admit that Hamas — as well as Palestinian civilians, including some children (according to survivors of the attacks) — committed atrocities on October 7th."

You were just yelping about Derek Chauvin before this - specifically because people withheld evidence from us - but now withholding evidence is OK, because Israel. And this is after the baldfaced lie, still being spread, about 40 decapitated babies. Now, hearsay is the standard for defending Zionists. Meanwhile, talk to hostages directly and they tell a totally different story.

"How many Palestinians have really been killed by the IDF? Not enough to convince Hamas to surrender."

So you admit Bibi is failing, just I told you he would?

"So the killing will continue, as it should."

Those are civilians, and you're a psychopath, pursuing what you admit is a failed strategy.

"It doesn’t concern me that Palestinian babies may be accidentally killed — first, because Israeli babies were deliberately killed on October 7th, and secondly because Hamas can surrender at any time and all the killing will stop. Ball’s in their court."

A baby (1) died on Oct 7. Do you see why I don't believe your side?

"And I still think you are a sick MFer for demanding to see videos of women being gang-raped, tortured, and murdered. Is it because those victims were white?"

No, you stupid racist, it's because I'm as adult as any journalist. Did you watch film of the Holocaust? Are you a sick MFer for doing so? Mountains of dead naked bodies? Are you a sick MFer for doing so? Did you watch George Floyd die? Are you a sick MFer for doing so? And why is it so hard to understand I need evidence in this case just I did for those? Didn't you see me change my mind, and say Chauvin deserves a new trial, after seeing new evidence? This double standard for Zionists - and all the name calling y'all engage in to defend it - just hurts your case. How can I "Never Forget" something no one will let me see?

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Big Mike said...

"I still think you are a sick MFer for demanding to see videos of women being gang-raped, tortured, and murdered."

1) Like anybody gives a damn what you think.

2) Fuck videos of women being gang-raped - you ain't even got a woman. Not one actual victim. You got witnesses - but no victims. Meanwhile, I got testimony from actual Zionist hostages, saying women are honored by Hamas.

3) After the lie of 40 decapitated babies, why should anyone believe you?