९ ऑगस्ट, २०२३

"Imagine losing your job, at a hospital of all places - or absolutely any argument - over astrology. ..."

"I lost a debate with my friends over whether or not my wife can walk through walls. This was all long before Greta Thunberg got a mural in San Francisco, but Tom Foremsky - an English friend I admired - gave me a book, called 'Ishmael,' featuring a gorilla who talked about 'saving the planet,' to explain what I was getting wrong...."

Writes The Crack Emcee in "First Man Canceled™️" (The Macho Response).

८७ टिप्पण्या:

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a pubescently solipsistic scold with fetal alcohol syndrome painted on the side of a building, staring at your face - forever."

- George OhWell, 2084

gilbar म्हणाले...

As they pointed out, in that A&E documentary. Homeopathic medicine IS fantastically effective.
Fantastically Effective at curing people of having more money than sense.

re Pete म्हणाले...

"Whole lot of people crying tonight

From the disease of conceit

Comes right out of nowhere

And you’re down for the count

From the outside world

The pressure will mount

Turn you into a piece of meat

The disease of conceit"

Narr म्हणाले...

My eyes! My eyes!

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

The author of "Ishmael" is an alum of Creighton Prep; my alma mater.

robother म्हणाले...

"Like the people against reparations, the NewAge movement hopes to keep kicking the can down the road..."

Well, we all have our hobby horses, Crack. Just easier to see through other people's than our own.

Wilbur म्हणाले...

Her visage reminds me of the photos of the women SS guards at the concentration camps and death camps.

No wonder the Left loves her. No mercy to climate deniers.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

I miss Crack!

cassandra lite म्हणाले...

You know where they don't have any murals of Greta Thunberg? China. She's never been there. You know why? Because if she told them, "How dare you," she'd be in a Uyghur concentration camp. Better to let the planet's biggest emitter of CO2 (by an order of magnitude) skate than risk anything other than adoration.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

"Imagine losing your job, at a hospital of all places - or absolutely any argument - over astrology."

I'm somewhat bemused by this opening sentence. There's a profound thought here obscured by what probably amounts to faulty proofreading. However, losing one's job at a hospital over an argument could be entirely fitting and proper depending on the specific argument. I doubt anyone with a working brain would defend a hospital employing an oracular priesthood rather than degreed and licensed physicians, nurses, and technicians. Over the centuries sacrifices to Asclepius have proven less efficacious than the germ theory. Consequently, we should applaud the administrator who pink-slips the staff astrologer, especially if he excludes Ophiuchus.

Alexander म्हणाले...

When trying to define our times, a giant big-brotheresque face of Greta staring at you from the ruins of San Francisco truly is worth more than 1000 words

rehajm म्हणाले...

Like the people against reparations, the NewAge movement hopes to keep kicking the can down the road

I’m not hoping to kick any can down any road I just think the idea of giving people alive today money based on their skin color and harm done to their elders is as stupid and unjust as the stuff we done to the elders in the first place…

…good try though, Crack. I looked…

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

I think the rise of astrology

or Gaia-worship

or worship of politicians

worship of the Kennedys, for instance, or Obama

"the one"

this is what happens when you have no faith

at my church I ran into a lady once

in the cafeteria

she was talking about some mystical mumbo-jumbo

could have been druids or pixies or some damn thing

something in Ireland, I think

I had so little patience for her, it wasn't even funny

You'd think a Christian sanctuary would be immune to that shit

that was the one and only time I ran into it at church

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

I was in love with a really smart girl in film school

She was a fan of astrology

asked me what my sign was

if I was on my game, I would have said

"slippery when wet"

and I would followed up with

"soft shoulder"

and then, with my deep voice

"yield!"

that would have been funny as shit

instead I said Libra

which is boring and stupid

Quaestor म्हणाले...

Little Sister is watching.

How befitting and poetic, a once beautiful and prosperous city blessed with the finest harbor in Christendom now reduced to chaos and ruin watched over by a gargantuan icon of the patron saint of the follies that destroyed it. Dante could have hardly done better.

Lilly, a dog म्हणाले...

The artist really captured the eyes, which are not quite human.

Mona Lizard

Iman म्हणाले...

The Bay Area - and L.A. county down in SoCal - produce a preponderance of the practitioners and the gullible nitwits that follow their horseschiff pronouncements. Interesting post!

CJinPA म्हणाले...

He's still blogging? Good for him.

Interesting, but too exhausting. I remember his frequent references to "New Age." But I don't know what he's trying to say and haven't the energy to explore it.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

In the Bible, one time these illiterate fishermen in the BC era were in their boat. And they see something on the water. It's a shimmering spirit or some damn thing. What is it? It's something or someone walking on the water.

They're terrified. "It's a ghost!"

This was 20 centuries ago. 2,000+ years. And they are ignorant people. Not scientists. But that had this name for a weird phenomenon. "Ghost!" And they saw a ghost walking on the water. And it's getting closer and closer. It's not fog. What the fuck is it? They're terrified. And it's getting closer and closer. And they're crying out in fear.

And they hear a voice.

"Take heart, it is I, do not be afraid."

And they realize it is Jesus, standing on the water. Jesus, their rabbi, their teacher. They've been eating with him, drinking with him, laughing with him. This is a man they all know. And now he's standing on the fucking water.

Peter says, "Lord, if it is you, command me to come to you on the water."

And then we have some comedy with Peter, my favorite disciple. Peter, the first pope, who was married and had a mother-in-law. Peter, who was not celibate. And Peter walks on the water. And then he looks down at what he is doing. And he sinks.

roger म्हणाले...

Yes, I'm afraid he lost me at Ishmael the talking gorilla

rehajm म्हणाले...

As I mentioned in the other post I like how our climate change grifters don’t let Greta gain much traction here. Like seagulls fighting over an open bag of Cheese Doodles they all are…

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

you fuckers who want to save the world

do not blot out the sun!

one of the nice things about Christianity

is the realization

we have no obligation to save the world

we have no duty to save the world

we have no insane stress of thinking that the world will die if we don't get out there and shut down the sun

you control freak motherfuckers

please find God

and relax a little

holy shit

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

Will blotting out the sun destroy humanity?

no.

But it will be a really fucked up and cold shivering existence

a new ice age

until the stupid motherfuckers in the Ivy League figure out a way to unblot the sun

environmentalists seem nice and green and friendly tree huggers

until you read their shit

John Holdren is a scary motherfucker!

AlbertAnonymous म्हणाले...

Crack Emcee. I remember him. Been awhile. Nice to see he’s still writing.

I must be getting old cause I can’t remember anything anymore. Who was the commenter that used to do the storylines about the girl with the pony tail running on the treadmill?

Comment. Pony Tail Swish. Comment. Pony Tail Swish. Cracked me up. I could visualize her running.

Every time I see a young lady with a pony tail now my mind goes to “pony tail swish, pony tail swish” like it’s a mantra.

His name was “I AM … something. Ugh. Can’t remember…. Good times tho.

Thanks Professor.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"Yes, I'm afraid he lost me at Ishmael the talking gorilla"

He didn't like Ishmael the gorilla, so why aren't you with him?

Mason G म्हणाले...

"The artist really captured the eyes, which are not quite human."

...in this picture with the creepy eyes of Greta thunberg being used as tail lights?

gilbar म्हणाले...

serious question..
Are the facts that she's a fetal alcohol syndrome victim, and autistic, and stupid, and ugly..
Are those facts supposed to make her MORE persuasive? And if so.. WHY?

Please compare/contrast with Brett Cooper.
Interestingly, the wikipedia page for Brett Cooper, makes a point, of NOT having a picture of Brett.
No pic at ALL.
The page for Greta has a pic of her from 4 years ago (2019) back when she was a teenaged little girl.
I wonder what Greta will be like, when she's 25? Of course.. We'll NEVER know

Rocco म्हणाले...

roger said...
"I'm afraid he lost me at Ishmael the talking gorilla."

Ishmael is no Harambe or Koko, that's for sure.

AlbertAnonymous म्हणाले...

Laslo. It was Laslo. Used to sign all his comments with I AM LASLO.

Guy made me laugh often.

Pony Tail Swish, Pony Tail Swish….

Tim Sisk म्हणाले...

Read the book "Ishmael" in college. Outside of the talking gorilla, I don't remember much about it except that it has some interesting ideas. I' was inclined to be dismissive of it but I don't remember that actually happening.

Narr म्हणाले...

That was Laszlo. (Pony tail girl)

Maybe things would have gone better for Crack if he'd hired an astrologer. I kid, I kid.

My wife just completed her daily yoga routine, and is planning to do one of her workouts also. If I thought that either touched on real spirituality I'd mock, but both activities keep her busy and more fit than if she neglected them.

So I abide.

Hassayamper म्हणाले...

When trying to define our times, a giant big-brotheresque face of Greta staring at you from the ruins of San Francisco truly is worth more than 1000 words

If I were a sci-fi author this would be giving me ideas for something along the lines of "Planet of the Apes".

Rusty म्हणाले...

Any relation to schlomo the duck?

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

Albert--His name was Lazlo.

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

St. Croix--there is a great golf joke about that passage. The punch line is: "He is Jesus Christ; he thinks he's Arnold Palmer."

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"You'd think a Christian sanctuary would be immune to that shit"

Why do you think Christianity is any less imaginary than "that shit?" If one is prone to believe one fantastic belief system, why would that same person (or any other Christian believers) not also be susceptible to believing in all sorts of lunacy? (As they do.)

Quaestor म्हणाले...

Talking apes. Like arithmetical horses, the bloom is well and truly off that particular rose.

You can't see me, but I'm signing Stoopid monkey. Stoopid monkey. Stoopid monkey. Done. Now, where's my banana?

Scott Patton म्हणाले...

I'd like to hear the hospital story.

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

AlbertAnonymous said...

"Crack Emcee. I remember him. Been awhile. Nice to see he’s still writing.

I must be getting old cause I can’t remember anything anymore. Who was the commenter that used to do the storylines about the girl with the pony tail running on the treadmill?

Comment. Pony Tail Swish. Comment. Pony Tail Swish. Cracked me up. I could visualize her running.

Every time I see a young lady with a pony tail now my mind goes to “pony tail swish, pony tail swish” like it’s a mantra.

His name was “I AM … something. Ugh. Can’t remember…. Good times tho.

Thanks Professor.
"

That's Laslo Spatula, still commenting on occasion here & there.

Krumhorn म्हणाले...

I must be getting old cause I can’t remember anything anymore. Who was the commenter that used to do the storylines about the girl with the pony tail running on the treadmill?

Comment. Pony Tail Swish. Comment. Pony Tail Swish. Cracked me up. I could visualize her running.

Every time I see a young lady with a pony tail now my mind goes to “pony tail swish, pony tail swish” like it’s a mantra.

His name was “I AM … something. Ugh. Can’t remember…. Good times tho.


I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula. Here's a link to his amazing posts on Althouse. He is a treasure. It's hard to believe that it's been 5 years since we've seen him around regularly with his essays, but he's been busy as a filmmaker who has produced some very interesting short films that have received awards.


- Krumhorn

Free Manure While You Wait! म्हणाले...

"an English friend I admired - gave me a book, called 'Ishmael,'"

I read that 30 years ago. Probably still have it. It was fairly well written if memory serves.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Thanks to everyone saying nice things. I miss you too: Reparations don't get kicked down the road all by itself (LOL)

My next post is titled "What's It Mean To Be 'Canceled' (In The Real World?)"

Stay Tuned,...

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

I think a couple of my posts are on the wrong thread

oops

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

We've had so many amazing commentators here.

I miss Laslo.

Might dig through his posts and try to find his robot, that was hilarious.

So much art in the world, and the vast majority of it is unknown, and some truly amazing art dies in obscurity.

The Althouse blog is a marvel, she attracts original thinkers like bees to honey. I've "wasted" so much time here over the years. And I think it's been a huge part of my life and intellectual development. Very thankful for the education.

Rusty म्हणाले...

Robert Cook said...
"You'd think a Christian sanctuary would be immune to that shit"

"Why do you think Christianity is any less imaginary than "that shit?" If one is prone to believe one fantastic belief system, why would that same person (or any other Christian believers) not also be susceptible to believing in all sorts of lunacy? (As they do.)"
Like Socialism. Am I right?

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

Why do you think Christianity is any less imaginary than "that shit?"

Cookie, why do you think the early disciples (11 of them) died for Jesus?

Seriously, you're in a state of utter ignorance about Christ. I wager you've never been in a Bible study. You've never attempted to read him or understand what he's saying. Jesus is a moral scholar far beyond anything you have read. You are ignorant on this subject. Talking to you about Jesus is like talking to Jesse James about Plato. It's fucking pointless.

Owen म्हणाले...

Saint Croix @ 4:38: "...The Althouse blog is a marvel, she attracts original thinkers like bees to honey. I've "wasted" so much time here over the years. And I think it's been a huge part of my life and intellectual development. Very thankful for the education."

What you said.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Narr said...

"My wife just completed her daily yoga routine, and is planning to do one of her workouts also. If I thought that either touched on real spirituality I'd mock, but both activities keep her busy and more fit than if she neglected them.

So I abide."

From the "First Things" journal: "Yoga is itself a religious act. The postures themselves lead the practitioner to God, whether the practitioner intends this or not. In traditional understanding, in other words, one can’t separate the religious and secular aspects of yoga and one really shouldn’t try. Indeed, some American Hindus object to the way our popular culture treats yoga as a designer gym routine. Much as many American Christians seek to “Keep Christ in Christmas,” the Hindu American Foundation has mounted a campaign to “Take Back Yoga” for the faith.

Perhaps yoga means one thing in one cultural context but something else in another. You’d have to think, though, that judges in yoga’s home country have a pretty good sense of what the practice is all about."

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"Cookie,

"Seriously, you're in a state of utter ignorance about Christ. I wager you've never been in a Bible study. You've never attempted to read him or understand what he's saying. Jesus is a moral scholar far beyond anything you have read. You are ignorant on this subject. Talking to you about Jesus is like talking to Jesse James about Plato. It's fucking pointless."


I was raised and confirmed in the Episcopal Church, where my father was a lay reader, my two brothers acolytes, and I an usher. (Not that I ever had any deep feeling about Christianity, I didn't. It was "what I believed" because that's how we had been raised.) In college, I took a class on the New Testament, which consisted of us reading the New Testament beginning to end. Before you assume the professor was a "contemptuous leftest atheist who pointed out and ridiculed the fallacy of the New Testatment," I will say that he was not and he did not. He taught it as any other philosophy class. (He was a philosophy teacher.) In class we would read out loud passages from that week's readings and he would not ever tell us what any of it meant; rather, he would ask the class what we thought it meant. He would ask simple questions during discussion to draw us out and get us to draw our own conclusions.

This is to say, I do not dismiss Christianity from ignorance of it, or as a moral system, or out of contempt for its moral system. I dismiss it, as I do other religious and supernatural beliefs as having no foundation in material reality. (This is not to say Jesus did not exist; scholars and historians on the whole believe he did live and was crucified, and I have no reason to dispute them.)

As a moral system, Christianity is fine enough (as Jesus taught it, and not necessarily as humans have often practiced it), and it is similar to many other religious, spiritual, and ethical traditions. However, such morality as such traditions teach is merely the codification of innate behaviors we evolved over time in order to survive as herd animals: cooperation and trust, and the behaviors that nourish trust. Behaviors that sow discord and undermine trust will ultimately destroy the ability of the group to work and live together in cooperative coexistence, which is necessary for group (and individual) survival in a perilous world. We commonly see such behaviors, including self-sacrifice, in the (non-human) animal world.

It is the existence of supernatural beings and realms that I say is imaginary: a Heaven and a Hell, to restrict ourselves strictly to Christian belief, where Jehovah and Satan rule, one realm to which a few of us are blessed to arrive to abide with God after death for our "right living" or "right belief," with the majority of us damned to suffer for eternity in the nether realm "for our wrong living/wrong belief." In a world bare of scientific knowledge, spiritual beliefs are to be expected: we are curious about the world and we create hypotheses to fill in the blanks where facts are lacking. However, it is senseless to believe such fancies today, given the great amount we have learned about physical existence, and the great amount we are still learning. We conceive of gods only due to our ability to think abstractly and imaginatively, but we cannot mistake our self-comforting/punishing make-believe stories for reality.

Those who readily accept fancy as fact are prone to be receptive to no end of baseless nonsense, benign and malign.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

For what it's worth, I do yoga sometimes

at my church

Episcopal church

great stretching

great for your peace of mind

I will defend the relaxation of yoga

I love First Things, Crack, amazing magazine. Glad you're reading it.

But I'm not going to agree with everything in that magazine.

This sentence, for instance...

Yoga itself is a religious act

is utterly contradicted by this sentence

our popular culture treats yoga as a designer gym routine

Yes, exactly. For me Yoga is about relaxation techniques, getting in touch with your body, exercising, and finding the Holy Spirit.

I know zero about Hinduism. Yoga teaches me zero about Hinduism.

Or, to give another example, just because you might peek at the Kama Sutra for tips on sexual positions, that's not going to make you a Hindu.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

by the way, Crack, you seem way more relaxed than the last time you were here.

I hope you're happy!

My prayer for you is that you forget about your French woman from your past and you find a new woman who makes you happy. God bless.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

Much as many American Christians seek to “Keep Christ in Christmas"...

There's definitely a lot of watered-down Christianity in the world. In Japan, for instance.

In the USA, many people know Santa Claus and know nothing of Christ.

One way to think about it is that a "watered-down Christ" is better than "zero Christ."

See Mark 9:40.

dbp म्हणाले...

Like the people against reparations, the NewAge movement hopes to keep kicking the can down the road

Reparations is similar to the NewAge movement, they're both rejections of rational thinking.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

Cookie, let me rephrase...

I'll wager you've never been in a Bible study this year, this decade, this century.

As for being an usher when you were a kid

thank you for your service

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

Jesus only helps sinners.

I'm a sinner, so I found him extremely helpful.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Saint Croix, thank you. I hope things are better. I hope you're well too.

Your comment about yoga reminds me of that Louis CK joke about white people discovering America and deciding the natives are "Indians" no matter what they said. ("This isn't india? You're not indians? You're Indians!") If you wanted a relaxing stretch, you would go to a "stretching" class, but you're practicing religion and merely denying it because who's going to make you do otherwise?

That's the same tyranny of solipsism my wife was into,...

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Saint Croix,

It seems pretty obvious that, if you're practicing yoga and no one is telling you what you're doing, then they're deceiving you about what you're doing.

Narr म्हणाले...

I used to read "First Things" first thing after the library got it. Good, serious stuff for serious believers. Of whish I am not, and what they have to say about yoga is of no moment to me.

Did you know that modern gymnastics and exercise have roots in the 19th C German nationalist "Turnverein" movement? Does it matter, now that you do?

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

dbp,

Funny, but Martin Luther King certainly didn't think so

Narr म्हणाले...

I used to read "First Things" first thing after the library got it. Good, serious stuff for serious believers. Of whish I am not, and what they have to say about yoga is of no moment to me.

Did you know that modern gymnastics and exercise have roots in the 19th C German nationalist "Turnverein" movement? Does it matter, now that you do?

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

It seems pretty obvious that, if you're practicing yoga and no one is telling you what you're doing, then they're deceiving you about what you're doing.

Crack, seriously, my Yoga teacher is a Christian in my church. We're all Christians. We have a (retired) priest whose nickname is "Yoga Rev." My workout group, F3, is also at my church, in the parking lot.

I appreciate your warning that I am slowly becoming a Hindu! Next time you are in Charlotte, we can have a beer and you can monitor my yoga class for bad spirituality.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Narr,

Are there 19th century German nationalists upset about it, like there are Hindus?

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

I love the idea of all these people practicing something they don't understand, with people "teaching" it to them without telling them what they're what they're really doing.

That's the deceit known as NewAge in a nutshell

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

I appreciate all happy warriors!

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

By the way, do you know why you never see studies showing that yoga isn't very healthy?

Because, as the comments here are making clear, there's no constituency for the truth.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Saint Croix,

You have to admit it's funny: you say you don't know anything about yoga. Someone tells you about yoga. You insist, no, yoga is what you, in your ignorance, says it is.

A perfect illustration of why things are not working out

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"Cookie, let me rephrase...

"I'll wager you've never been in a Bible study this year, this decade, this century.

"As for being an usher when you were a kid

"thank you for your service"


A non-sequitur response. Weak tea. You first accused me of having no knowledge of Christianity or Christ, now you can only "wager (I've) ever been in a Bible study this year, this decade, this century."

I haven't, and what of it? What could a bible study this year, decade, or century offer that hasn't been available in the past two millennia, that isn't right there in the New Testament? It's just talk. Anything other than or subsequent to the words ascribed to Jesus is simply editorializing and revisionism.

All religion is just humankind's imagining, nothing more.

dbp म्हणाले...

"Funny, but Martin Luther King certainly didn't think so"

It's not certain what King thought about reparations, though he had ample opportunity to be clear on the subject, if he wanted to do so. In any case, if he was for reparations, he was misguided in that opinion.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

okay, last comment for me on this thread

Crack, you are ignorant about my yoga class, you've never been there.

I've only been there a half dozen times. That's not a lot. But it's vastly more than zero.

Basic yoga (it's not even "hot" yoga, it's easy yoga) is therapeutic for simple things like relieving tension. I got so relaxed I fell asleep in my class one time. I didn't even know I was stressed until I did a little yoga.

In another yoga class, I got an unwanted boner because the girl next to me put her leg behind her head

We've got a woman in the class who has MS and she testifies that it's helped her a lot with her symptoms. You can google that stuff if you want, Crack. I'm not an expert on yoga. It's fun and relaxing and no big deal. What cracks me up is your fear that I'm going to go Hindu or "new age" or whatever the heck you're worried about. Believe me when I say I have better knowledge of my spirituality than you do.

And I have way better knowledge of my spirituality than Cookie, who doesn't believe in the human spirit, and he's terrified that if he walks into a Bible study he might actually have to confront the reality of God.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Saint Croix,

Your tone has become so passive aggressively attacking I'm not even going to pursue this any further

Narr म्हणाले...

Crack, I don't care what the eds at First Things or Hindus think about Saint Croix and my wife practicing yoga, any more than I care that some nun might object to non-Christians performing the works of Hildegard of Bingen, or doing so in the wrong frame of spirit.

My wife's original yoga group met in various churches, with the full knowledge of the relevant authorities.





The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

dbp

It's amazing, how little white people know about Martin Luther King, yet they throw him in black people's faces at every opportunity they get to quote his dream speech. It truly comes off as cynical and disingenuous.

Sorry, but little white kids and little black kids getting along - while the white kids walk away with all the money - was not what he had in mind

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

I hope Saint Croix's reply to me was so unhinged that everyone can see through claims of relaxation or any kind of balance being achieved. Yoga is the number one ritual used to enlist people in cults. Just the mere practice is religious, whether it takes place in a yoga class that has nothing to do with religion or not. It's doing it that is religious. There's no getting away from it. That's why it's called yoga and not stretching.

That's all I've got to say

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Narr said...
Crack, I don't care what the eds at First Things or Hindus think about Saint Croix and my wife practicing yoga, any more than I care that some nun might object to non-Christians performing the works of Hildegard of Bingen, or doing so in the wrong frame of spirit.

That's dumb. People don't warn others for nothing. Some sneaky fuckers are trying to manipulate you and you're just like OK, whatever.

Do what you want, but why complain about the country going off the rails, if that's your attitude? Study Shows Yoga and Meditation Can Inflate Your Ego (and Not in a Good Way) and blowing off people's concerns for you could definitely be construed as an example of it.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

The BBC: Does yoga have a conspiracy theory problem?

No one is asking if stretching has a problem

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

Crack,

MLK trained for years and years and years with Jesus. They had a real relationship. He prayed and received knowledge from the hereafter. He was not a phony. He was a Christian, and he died a martyr's death. If you truly want to know MLK, go to a Bible study and study under the ultimate rabbi.

Cook,

I appreciate all the work you put into your post at 8:40. You obviously spent hours on that post, crafting your writing, trying to make it as impressive as possible. I'm writer, I recognize the work. You're attempting to document your history with Christianity. Okay. You missed my point. You don't know Jesus.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

How I Learned That Yoga Isn't Perfect

I love when otherwise sane people tell me they're going to defiantly do something stupid.

It makes me miss my wife.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

This might be more y'all's speed:

Sexy Sadie by The Beatles

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Professor of Alternative Medicine, Edzard Ernst MD, PhD, MAE, FMedSci, FRSB, FRCP, FRCPEd:

"Why do the authors claim that patients who regularly practiced yoga had a significantly better general health status, a higher physical functioning, and physical component score on the SF-36 than those who did not? I know that the statement is strictly speaking correct, but why do they not write that “patients who had a significantly better general health status, a higher physical functioning, and physical component score on the SF-36 were more likely to practice yoga regularly”? After all, this too is correct! And why does the conclusion not state that better physical health seems to be associated with a greater likelihood of practicing yoga?

The possibility that the association is the other way round deserves serious consideration, in my view. Is it not logical to assume that, if someone is relatively fit and healthy, he/she is more likely to take up yoga (or table-tennis, sky-diving, pole dancing, etc.)?

It’s perhaps not a hugely important point, so I will not dwell on it – but, as the alternative medicine literature is full with such subtly misleading statements, I don’t find it entirely irrelevant either."

As I've said already, I see no reason for hanging around a religious practice, but people deceive you about what you're doing, fill society with misleading statements, and hold ulterior motives no one's willing to talk about without getting pissy about it

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

""Regardless of whether you’re seeking the reverent or the physical, one thing still abounds in yoga studios: bad science."


That is a great quote - and any man should be proud to send his wife off to commune with such people.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

“One often hears and reads about the dangers of Yoga, particularly of the ill-reputed Kundalini Yoga. The deliberately induced psychotic state, which in certain unstable individuals might easily lead to a real psychosis, is a danger that needs to be taken very seriously indeed. These things really are dangerous and ought not to be meddled with in our typically Western way. It is a meddling with Fate, which strikes at the very roots of human existence and can let loose a flood of sufferings of which no sane person ever dreamed. These sufferings correspond to the hellish torments of the chönyid state…”

- Carl Jung

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

"Nobody ever joins a cult. One joins a nonprofit group that promotes green technology, animal rights, or transcendental meditation. One joins a yoga class or an entrepreneurial workshop. One begins practicing an Eastern religion that preaches peace and forbearance. The first rule of recruitment,...is that a recruit must never suspect he or she is being recruited. The second rule is that the cult must monopolize the recruit’s time [through getting them to do yoga,...]."

The Man Who Saves You from Yourself

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"And I have way better knowledge of my spirituality than Cookie, who doesn't believe in the human spirit, and he's terrified that if he walks into a Bible study he might actually have to confront the reality of God."

Ahahaha! Sure, Champ! If it's important for you to think so...enjoy yourself! (BTW...I was never talking about your spirituality, but about the illusion of all who believe in a spiritual realm and a creator god. Whatever you believe is of no significance to me.)

Narr म्हणाले...

That's an impressive array of opinions about yoga and its practitioners, Crack, but I'm not convinced by your claims to knowledge or your appeals to authority.

Deception indeed. If my wife starts claiming the ability to walk through walls I'll be sure to let you know and seek your advice.

Putz.



The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Narr

Waiting until your wife deverlps a problem - that's love

Narr म्हणाले...

Forty-six years and counting, Crack.

No Hindoos gonna steal my gal!