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"A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin."

"The information, he says, has been illegally withheld from Congress, and he filed a complaint alleging that he suffered illegal retaliation for his confidential disclosures, reported here for the first time. Other intelligence officials, both active and retired, with knowledge of these programs through their work in various agencies, have independently provided similar, corroborating information, both on and off the record."

The Debrief reports.
The whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, 36, a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan, is a veteran of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). He served as the reconnaissance office’s representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force.... Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. Analysis has determined that the objects retrieved are 'of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures... We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities.... The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.'"
This story is mentioned in that Tucker Carlson episode in the previous post, but I'm blogging about it because I encountered it in The Guardian, in "US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles/Whistleblower former intelligence official says government possesses ‘intact and partially intact’ craft of non-human origin."

५५ टिप्पण्या:

Kate म्हणाले...

Time to stand on top of the Capitol Records Tower with a sign saying "Welcome!"

re Pete म्हणाले...


"Who says I can’t get heavenly aid?"

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Talk is cheap.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

Squirrel!

Rusty म्हणाले...

Nope.
This same horse shit gets recycled every ten years or so and it is patently false. The thing I shouldn't find amazing is that, without any evidence at all, people believe this.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

I'll believe it when I see it...maybe.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Take me to your leader.

If these aliens are so smart, why did they crash? Why did they die?

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

The guy made it sound like we have a lot of these things. Why did so many crash? Have we been shooting them down and killing the occupants?
Was Lindsay Graham in charge of the extraterrestrial diplomatic efforts?

Tom T. म्हणाले...

The military and intelligence services have figured out that there is money to be sucked up from this UFO nonsense. This is all meant as pressure to fund UFO research from now until forever.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

It probably been kept a secret so the Biden family can figure out a way to collect payments from the aliens.

Clyde म्हणाले...

At this point, even if the government shifted gears and decided to share information with the public, how would we know that it is real? AI can created images that look real, and that is how most of us would experience those theoretical extraterrestrial artifacts, by looking at images. Everything can be faked these days. Who knows what is real? They could probably even 3D print something from the images, and if you didn't have the scientific instruments to analyze the isotopes of the materials, how would you know if they were actually extraterrestrial or not? I certainly don't trust anything the media or the government tell me any more. If they tell me the sun rose in the east this morning, I'd still take a look outside to verify it.

Clyde म्हणाले...

At this point, even if the government shifted gears and decided to share information with the public, how would we know that it is real? AI can created images that look real, and that is how most of us would experience those theoretical extraterrestrial artifacts, by looking at images. Everything can be faked these days. Who knows what is real? They could probably even 3D print something from the images, and if you didn't have the scientific instruments to analyze the isotopes of the materials, how would you know if they were actually extraterrestrial or not? I certainly don't trust anything the media or the government tell me any more. If they tell me the sun rose in the east this morning, I'd still take a look outside to verify it.

Lilly, a dog म्हणाले...

Paul Dooley knows all about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNpskHp1ktc

He's 95 years young. Coincidence or conspiracy?

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

How long until they add and alien stripe to the LGBTQQIP2SA flag?

Seeing the drag queen costumes at the kiddy dance shows, I have a feeling the aliens have been among us for some time now.

gilbar म्हणाले...

i SAW this movie!! it turns out; that the alien spacecraft use an Apple Operating system

Temujin म्हणाले...

This could explain Peter Stzrok.

Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...

"In the Debrief article, Grusch does not say he has personally seen alien vehicles, nor does he say where they may be being stored."

Hearsay whistleblowing.

Static Ping म्हणाले...

Two problems:

1. Intelligence officials have proven themselves to be completely untrustworthy. The fact that this person is a former intelligence official is a major strike against his credibility.

2. Whistleblower protection is a joke. The government regularly punishes whistleblowers. See the FBI, which cannot get rid of them fast enough in blatant violation of the law. A whistleblower who is not being tormented is therefore a government agent or at least government approved. And the government would never lie to me, other than the thousands of times it has lied to me in recent history.

I rate this on the same level as "anonymous sources say" on the believability meter.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

My tag: “I’m skeptical”

Enigma म्हणाले...

For many decades the UFO and alien stuff was soft cover ("plausibility deniability") for the hidden military budget. This includes everything seen at Area 51...nuke tests...U2 spy plane...SR-71 Blackbird...Stealth Fighter (1980s)...and also the White Sands / Roswell areas too...

The trouble is that government 3 letter agencies don't trust each other and keep secrets from each other. There are many organizational stovepipes filled with James Comey and Peter Strozk types. Per the classification rules and "need to know" -- so-called alien technology might just be current human technology unknown to a given person.

Or, there really are aliens and we live in an illusion. That'd be more a lot more fun or deadly, as someone figured out how to travel faster than light speed.

phantommut म्हणाले...

This could explain Peter Stzrok.

Ha! I knew he was a lizard. I just didn't think it might be literally true.

Ron Winkleheimer म्हणाले...

What Rusty said. Former intelligence officials, or engineers, or whatever have been claiming that UFOs have been recovered, or the US is working with the aliens since the 50s.

Have you heard about the secret, world straddling tunnels that all meet under the Denver airport?

Left Bank of the Charles म्हणाले...

I have long understood that UFO stories were planted during the Cold War to force the U.S. Defense Department to reveal what it knew about Soviet spy programs. It’s curious that these craft only started appearing after World War II, after mankind developed the technology to make such things. Making spycraft that appear to be alien would have deniability and well as disinformation advantages. And it’s a great coincidence that these reports have started coming in again while we are supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia.

Aggie म्हणाले...

Look ! A squirrel !

These things roll around periodically, but the evidence never follows, somehow. And the story never moves on to discuss why the evidence isn't following, so.... see ya next time !

Speaking of The Evidence, has the FBI turned over the investigation documents on the Biden Briben' case yet? Or is this as likely as, say, seeing a UFO strapped to a flatbed trailer, rolling up outside of Congress?

Aggie म्हणाले...

And let us not forget, that when it comes to UFO's, this guy is the noted Swiss expert UFOlogist Mr. Giorgio A. Tsoukalos

https://alchetron.com/cdn/giorgio-a-tsoukalos-f76584af-7371-44ef-ba88-bf1d96aa28d-resize-750.jpeg

Michael K म्हणाले...

I'm still skeptical. My wife is convinced she has seen one. We'll see what happens.

cf म्हणाले...

Ha ha Temujin!

Althouse is the second site I peek at any morning, but I must admit my sweet reward for that are the comments Temujin contributes.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent म्हणाले...

Ignorance and the TV-trained mind. It's a big place and no one is ever going to stumble on us out here in Dogpatch.

Bryan Townsend म्हणाले...

I think the important thing is to find out if they are Klingon, Vulcan or Ferengi.

Elliott A. म्हणाले...

I can buy autonomous AI directed probes, but supporting living beings for many, many years is a stretch and while it is possible they could have a crash, it would be a rare event, not common as claimed, and not always in isolated locations. If true, I don't blame the military for keeping things secret. Too many untrustworthy leakers out there.

0_0 म्हणाले...

Uh huh.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

So the media will still print whistleblower claims after all? How weird.

Smilin' Jack म्हणाले...

The government has to keep this UFO stuff secret because they don’t want to admit they needed alien help to fake the moon landings.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

I've seen two kinds of unexplained aerial vehicles and have no idea if they were piloted or self-guided. Seems like just about anyplace where the skies are clear enough to see satellites people will eventually see things that are NOT satellites because they stop/start or make hard turns. Closer up was a triangular craft over San Bernardino that was very quiet.

An earlier sighting I had in '83 started out unexplained and it looked like a spacecraft crashing but turned out to be a stealth fighter that lost control during testing. It was just dumb luck I was there on the side of the road* when it went over and down. Three years later after officially revealing the F117A the Pentagon acknowledged the earlier crash "near Bakersfield" and I figured out that was what I and a friend saw.

*Roughly near here (35.478890, -118.763770) off highway 178 along the Kern River Canyon.

phillyfan म्हणाले...

why do the aliens only crash in the United States? I have not heard about other country recovering alien craft. consider me skeptical

Anna Keppa म्हणाले...

If the government has for years had its hands on alien technology, why has NONE of it made its way into our aircraft and spacecraft?

Crikey, the Chicoms and Russkis have routinely incorporated technology stolen from us into their military and commercial technologies, so....why haven't we done the same by reverse engineering exotic alien stuff?

Another old lawyer म्हणाले...

I'm reminded of this clip from one of the best episodes of The X-Files:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ass4WGu9Y8&pp=ygUVeC1maWxlcyBqZXNzZSB2ZW50dXJh

Leland म्हणाले...

I’ve listened to the Navy commander who recorded what is truly an unidentifiable flying object, but even then, I think he observed something he didn’t understand, not that it was extra terrestrial.

If these aliens are so smart, why did they crash? Why did they die?

Space flight is hard. Being serious for a moment, we already have the capability to launch a vehicle in space loaded with humans and even other creatures from earth and put it on a trajectory outside our solar system towards some nearby planetary system. If we aimed good enough, it would crash and every life onboard probably would have died before they left the solar system. SpaceX might improve are chances of making it alive to Mars, or Musk could be so smart as to crash land there and die.

Oh, who am I kidding. The more likely scenario is travelers from future Earth crashed their Time Machine when trying to come back here and warn us about fighting climate change.

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Why crash in the United States?
Simple...
https://www.deloreandirectory.com/census/data/
They're looking for DeLoreans!

Free Manure While You Wait! म्हणाले...

"If these aliens are so smart, why did they crash? Why did they die?"

What I get a kick out of is the ancient alien crowd. Apparently aliens, that possess the technology to travel millions of miles across the universe and God knows what other technologies we can't even begin to comprehend, come to Earth in order to impart their great wisdom to us Earthlings and how do they do it? They carve it into a rock.

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

Some years ago, Isthmus ran an article about the Roswell Incident, making the claim that what really happened was a crash of a US Army plane carrying nuclear material. The space craft story was concocted as a sensational distraction, then the cover-up of the alien craft was yet another distraction. There was nuclear material at Roswell Army Airfield (as it was known at the time), but like so many other stories it is probably speculative.

Richard म्हणाले...

True story. I was working at NSA in 2003 when we were informed that the government had just created a new agency to replace the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA). It was to be called the National Intelligence Geospatial Agency. I took one look at the name and I said that there was no way in hell they would be able to keep that name. Sure enough, the next day we were informed that the name had been changed to the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA).

takirks म्हणाले...

Left Bank of the Charles said:

"I have long understood that UFO stories were planted during the Cold War to force the U.S. Defense Department to reveal what it knew about Soviet spy programs. It’s curious that these craft only started appearing after World War II, after mankind developed the technology to make such things."

You really need to do some more reading on these issues. Crazy reports very similar to the "UFO phenomenon" have been coming in since the days of the Bible. Medieval reports of fairies? Angels?

During the 19th Century, it wasn't exactly uncommon to find reports of "aeronauts" stopping in for coffee at Western campsites, complete with full descriptions of the visitors outfitted as Europeans and saying they were from France... At a time when there sure as hell weren't any actual balloons or aircraft flying around Yuma, Arizona.

I've no earthly idea what the hell the UFO phenomenon is, but I do know one thing: It ain't new. You've had crap like this reported as long as there have been people to report it, and it ain't hard to make out that it is more likely to be an effect of mass hallucination or sleep paralysis than it is to be actual aliens.

It's like with any of these things; you can tell rather more about the people involved by their reports than you can anything else. I'm sure some of these guys are quite sincere in their beliefs and reporting as to what they experienced, but given the fallibility of human senses and the generally poor nature of the machinery it gets processed on...? I'm going to go with "hallucinatory ravings" before I buy off on "extraterrestrial intelligence", at least until I'm presented with some fairly incontrovertible evidence.

I ain't ruling out E.T., but I'm damn sure gonna want to see that bastard, his ship, and the rest of the supporting evidence first-hand before I buy off on it.

That said, the reason why a lot of this BS is so easy to believe is a marker for how badly the idiots in charge have damaged their credibility. If they hadn't wasted it claiming things that were patently and observably untrue, well... I might take their words. Now? I'm looking through the pile of poop for any ponies, because I totally don't trust them.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

If these aliens are so smart, why did they crash? Why did they die?

Impaired, most likely. Earth is a party town and Earth girls are easy.

alanc709 म्हणाले...

Name something from the last 3 years that the government has been honest about. This is unmitigated garbage. To reach here, the aliens would need faster-than-light travel, among other things. I'll believe this when the government admits Biden sold us to China.

Rusty म्हणाले...

Now that they've distracted the gullible turn around and see what they're not telling us.

Rocco म्हणाले...

Dave Begley said...
"If these aliens are so smart, why did they crash? Why did they die?"

Too many DEI seminars and not enough engineering/technical classes.

ken in tx म्हणाले...

If any branch of the federal Gov had proof of ET aliens, they would not hide it from congress or the public. They would use it to justify a huge budget increase.

Drago म्हणाले...

ken in tx: "If any branch of the federal Gov had proof of ET aliens, they would not hide it from congress or the public. They would use it to justify a huge budget increase."

"Independence Day" quote: "You didn't think they actually spent ten thousand dollars for a hammer and thirty thousand for a toilet seat, did you?"

donald म्हणाले...

“Have you heard about the secret, world straddling tunnels that all meet under the Denver airport”.

No, but I’ve seen those damned murals. And no, that’s not a Denver Bronco outside of DIA.

donald म्हणाले...

Whoops, thought you wrote have you seen. EVERYBODY knows about the tunnels. Right?

As an aside, I flew through DIA during first week it was open, the carnage on the baggage was epic.

Colin म्हणाले...

I'm awaiting the announcement that ChatGPT designed an aircraft somehow.

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

Why wouldn't the aliens just reveal themselves and take over, and start mining or enslaving or siphoning up the water or whatever? If their tech is that advanced they would have nothing to stop them from taking over the planet.

Mason G म्हणाले...

"secret tunnels denver airport" on google: About 855,000 results.

Some secret.

Kevin म्हणाले...

Awiens.