[I]s that really what we want to watch as viewers — someone just putting together a puzzle they already learned how to solve before they even stepped on the beach?
Okay, let me nerd out in my particular lane of nerdery — language usage. I have no problem with Ross writing "before they even stepped on the beach." But I don't like the wording in the headline "before they even step foot on the island."
It’s true that set foot in is far and away the more common phrase. And thirteen citations that include set foot in are scattered around the Oxford English Dictionary, the earliest of which (illustrating the use of the now obsolete and rare word reguerdonment, meaning “reward”) is from 1599. But the version you don’t like, step foot in, is also in the OED, with citations dating back to 1540. According to a note under step, it’s now seen and heard only in the United States.
The question remains whether we ought to consider it a mistake. Citations in the OED include, without demur, many words and phrases widely regarded as incorrect—for instance, baited breath, free reign, hone in, and all ready meaning “already.”...
Language geeks have given the name eggcorns to usages of this kind—“spontaneous reshapings of known expressions” which seem to make sense. (Eggcorn is itself an eggcorn, for acorn.) Whether step foot in is, or originally was, an eggcorn has been hotly but inconclusively debated. However, no one argues that set foot in is anything other than standard English. So step foot in is one of those phrases that we’re probably better off not using even though there’s little reason to object if others use them.
But "we’re probably better off not using" conflates our own word choice and our disapproval of the words other people use. I'm always going to say "set foot" myself, but I will look somewhat less askance at "step foot" from here on out. I mean: the 1500s. That's got to earn some respect.
By the way, this is a usage question I've thought of a lot, because I taught the subject of personal jurisdiction for many years, and in that context, defendants would often argue that they're not subject to jurisdiction because they'd never "set foot" in the state, and every so often you'd see "stepped foot," which stood out like a sore big toe.
ADDED: Is "nerd" in the OED? Yes, but only with an excessively negative definition: "An insignificant, foolish, or socially inept person; a person who is boringly conventional or studious." The oldest appearance in print is:
1951 Newsweek 8 Oct. 28 In Detroit, someone who once would be called a drip or a square is now, regrettably, a nerd.
It came from Detroit!
२१ टिप्पण्या:
"For everything there is a season, and a time for every [a]purpose under heaven: 2 a time to be born, and a time to die . . ."
Like Survivor, like the Simpsons, like Islam, like the practitioners of totalitarianism/collectivism such as the Democrat Party.
Why does anyone watch this crap? Survivor is as much reality TV as a George Kirby briefing.
How dare contestants practice how to make fire with flint rocks before they go on the show. Don't the producers know that is cheating! Dalton demands fairness!
44 seasons, and this guy finally noticed people really do prepare for a chance to win $1 million? He's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
"It’s all been written in the book
But when there’s too much of nothing
Nobody should look"
"Step foot" may have been around since at least 1540, but I'm pretty sure that I never heard it until about twenty years ago. Since then, it's become ubiquitous--or maybe I just notice it more because it does stick out like a sore big toe.
Incidentally, even more egregiously sticking out in the sore big toe category is the fact that "went" seems well on its way to replacing "gone" as the past participle of "go." Just the other day I heard a graduate of Bryn Mawr on a cable news show dodging a touchy subject and declaring that "Personally, I wouldn't have went there."
“Step foot” is annoyingly redundant, as “step” implies foot, while “set” does not. And in classic phrases such as “This is the forest primeval, where the hand of man has never set foot”, using “stepped” would spoil the aesthetic.
Use the old puzzles, but change them in such a way that the person who memorized them will get stuck and waste a lot of time trying to figure out why it doesn't work.
Is Survivor still a TV program??
I shelled out money for two big screen TV's in 2017, but I find the only thing I watch is Seahawks football.
To step foot is a redundant tautology.
Nerd here. I think I've seen every season of Survivor. I've always enjoyed observing the group dynamics, reminds me of modern office culture, everyone vying to get to get a shot at the next level of hierarchy. Fascinating, at least for me, LOL.
I used to DVR Survivor and would generally fast forward through the challenges. Recently been watching "live", so have been watching the challenges. I have no issues with folks puzzle prepping, no different than players improving their swimming or running skills, right? What I miss, the weird food eating challenges ...
RE: set foot vs. stepped foot ... I have never used "stepped foot" ever in my life until a few seconds ago. Thanks for reading EW for us!
I don't understand why anyone would watch the series after the first season ... but then, I don't understand why people watch sports either.
Stand "in line" or "on line?". This drives me nuts whenever I visit New York.
I love that that puzzle guy was so prepared (and kept it so quiet). All contestants watched previous seasons (or had the ability to). They all could have prepared, and some do in different ways - practicing firemaking etc. I disagree with the column. Why would people not be rewarded for preparing ahead of time? It's not different than researching the location, learning about edible plants, training physically and other things. I think it is actually discriminatory to prevent people who want to train their MINDS for the competition. That is an advantage that people who are not physically strong can bring. I love that kid. Didn't pay much attention to him before but I am rooting for him now.
The question I have is about that woman who makes all the funny faces. My husband is fascinated with her and mimics it all the time, to my dismay. He wants her to stay for the entertainment value. I....disagree.
"step foot" is the adopted semantic of stepped, with Wiki's sole contention of idiomatic usage.
"Set foot" is the canonical form, but "step foot" may be as common now. People didn't hear the original phrase well enough to repeat it, but the redundancy may be (as people say now) a feature rather than a bug for some people, a way of marking the memorability of the event. Blame Neil Armstrong, I guess.
“This is the forest primeval, where the hand of man has never set foot”
Longfellow meets Sam Goldwyn?
23 years of Survivor make me feel old.
44 seasons of Survivor make me feel antediluvian.
"To step foot is a redundant tautology."
Also, "step" is intransitive everywhere else.
"The question I have is about that woman who makes all the funny faces. My husband is fascinated with her and mimics it all the time, to my dismay. He wants her to stay for the entertainment value. I....disagree."
Carolyn. She's the best thing about this season. She's so weird that others underestimate her, and she's getting hostile to them for failing to give her respect, but she's smart and she's flying under the radar.
Funny to think of your husband imitating her. She has some hilarious grimaces.
I agree with Amy that everyone had a chance to study past seasons so it is Ok that the puzzles are the repeats. I would think it would be really hard in the stress of the competition to remember how to put it together. I also love Carolyn. I wonder if the other players will figure out how good she is at playing the game before it's too late!
"To step foot is a redundant tautology."
"Redundant tautology” is a redundant tautology.
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