That's a question the NYT interviewer, Rhonda Garelick, asks Paulina Porizkova in "Paulina Porizkova Doesn’t Call Her Book a Memoir/The model and author spoke about writing 'No Filter: The Good, the Bad and the Beautiful.'"
Porizkova's husband was the rock star Ric Ocasek.
That question was absurdly difficult! And Porizkova doesn't really try to answer it.
Garelick persists: "But you made that political connection in your essay — between the occupying army and Ric."
Fair enough. Porizkova blows it all off. She was jet lagged and under time pressure when she wrote that — "My marriage was a sort of occupation."
Either say it and defend it or don't speak. The dead Ocasek cannot speak. Or do beautiful women have a special privilege to make aggressive analogies?
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Or do beautiful women have a special privilege to make aggressive analogies?
"Beautiful women can do anything they want." -- The US Constitution, probably.
Ann: my first reaction to your post is to wonder why you devote even a moment’s output of your megawatt laser attention to such poisonous froth. But my second thought is grateful appreciation that you do: because it spares me having to do it (spoiled: I won’t) but mostly because I realize that this stuff, while poisonous, is not just froth. The lazy thinking and sloppy expression of some memoir-writing model should not be dismissed as a trivial or ephemeral cultural irritant: people read this tripe and absorb it. It gets ploughed into the soil of our common discourse. It needs to be caught and challenged. Which you do very well.
So: thanks.
All women -- beautiful or not -- find a way to 'win' any argument. They either do this directly on the facts, or through mood and redirection when in the wrong.
About 3/4 divorce requests are filed by women.
Song ideas for Pussy Riot
Penis Invasion
Penis invasion
again and again
Penis invasion!
again and again
Penis invasion!
again and again
Penis invasion!
Wooooooo!
Now we just need the music and we are set
"Looking at what’s happening in our country and around the world, do you think about the connection between shame and defensiveness and occupation and politics?"
What's happening now that is anywhere near as severe as the actions of the soviet commies?
You know what feels a bit like occupied territory? Upstate New York. Central PA too, for that matter, ruled out of coastal cities who don’t care a whit about your concerns.
Make America Great Again
What I love about that video
is all the sexual fantasy
fantasy is fun
but that's no excuse for ignoring reality
"she made an abortion" is the Democrat platform
"human organs for sale" is also the Democrat platform
We're the baby party.
First of all there is no connection between the two pairs of extremely broad categories that that NYT reporter put into her question. You could have a field day considering her motivations; but I am passing on the article and would have passed on commenting.
Except I disagree with Owen. The problem is not (or not only) that Althouse chooses this stuff, the problem is the source she depends upon. Many interesting topics go into the sausage-grinder that is the NYT editorial machinery and they all come out with the same off taste. Thus many potential interesting topics get wasted in their posting, IMO.
Nothing is worst than having to take a roach coach instigated dump and seeing the occupied sign on the Andy Gump door.
Yes.
"... such poisonous froth..."
The idea that a married woman is an occupied territory is one of the most important subjects in the history of the world.
By comparison, who won the midterm elections is froth.
And the idea that the idea is froth is itself poisonous. The subordination of women is traditionally overshadowed by anything and everything, when it is fundamental to human society, all the way into the past and continuing long into the future.
Word of the day: Vranyo. A system of general official bullshit throughout society, when it's too costly to say what you actually think. It's why women were expected to abandon the dems. Nobody pointed out, hey they're women. Feelings rule. No shame, when shame is the only thing that would fix the system. A form of self-awareness that women lack. It's not always shame about sex and modesty.
It's serious brain incapacity.
And the idea that the idea is froth is itself poisonous.
I must be toxic here. The froth on the crest of sea waves is what makes long sea waves appear well before any linear theory says they could. Wind whips up very tiny waves quite quickly, and these tend to break at the crests of longer waves, imparting their momentum to the longer wave. That's where the longer wave is getting the energy that it could not get directly from the wind.
And huge waves crash in to the shore because of froth.
Call feminism froth, for example.
The idea that a married woman is an occupied territory is one of the most important subjects in the history of the world.
@Meade, I think you’re in trouble, friend. I recommend a nice bouquet of flowers.
What have I wrought with my humble figure of speech?!?
*wrings hands*
I must be toxic here.
Why, yes. Yes you are.
Either say it and defend it or don't speak.
I'd reflect on the fact Porizkova apparently didn't think she would be required to defend it in any way, and why she would think that.
The occupied male. Feminists are from Venus.
The occupied female. Masculinists are from Mars.
The occupied society. Social progressives are from Uranus.
The occupied demos-cracy. Let us bray.
But as for us, women, men, and babies, do reconcile in equal and complementary standing.
Dude, you already burned me on the Tiffany Trump post. And now Paulina, who is not worth white-knighting, either. Are we having a serious discussion about these women, how they're portrayed, and whether the concerns of woman-world are fluff? Or are we setting up a topic that the 90% of men who comment here can scorn?
That question was absurdly difficult!
But an answer to it would help many female NYT readers answer another question that is uppermost in their minds; "Can I blame my failed relationships on Donald Trump?".
Froth keeps the cinnamon afloat in a cappuccino. A little garnish in moderation.
A twilight faith, secular religion, and liberal ideology in deference to mortal gods, goddesses, and experts that may keep you. Take a knee, beg, ...
Candy-O, I need you
Sunday dress, ruby ring
Candy-O, I need you so
Could you help me in?
Purple hum, assorted cards
Razor lights you'll bring
And all to prove you're on the move
And vanishing
Candy-O, I need you so
Candy-O, I need you so
Edge of night, distract yourself
Obstacles don't work
Homogenize, decentralize
It's just a quirk
Different ways to see you through
All the same in the end
Peculiar star, that's who you are
Do you have to win?
Well I been across this country
From Denver to the ocean
And I never met girls who could sing so sweet
Like the angels that live in Houston
Singin' "Roll me easy, so slow and easy...
Play that Concertina, I'll be your temptress..."
And baby I'm defenseless
Singin' harmony
In unison
Sweet harmony
Gotta hoist your flag and I'll beat your drum
She was misquoted in her memoirs....She's one of those celebs whose lives you know about without really making any kind of effort to do so. She's handling the aging process better than Madonna but that's a low bar......Living under a totalitarian regime is traumatic and damaging and can affect every part of your personality. Irrc, she did get screwed over by Ocasek, and she's entitled to hold a grudge against him....She's still beautiful and interesting. Maybe she'll find some billionaire to spend her declining years with.....Congrats to rhhardin for crafting a metaphor for feminism that is even more incomprehensible than feminism
Sounds like growing up in America today.
Whatever happened to; 'What do you suggest for a good moisturizer?'
Not sure if she's just a pretty face.
Either way, Ric really punched above his weight...
Obviously, the right (expected) answer was, "Trump is like, really horrible!" so they could move on to other more important feminist topics. But Paulina waffled, basically expressing mild deprecation of all politics in general.
Now, this is actually very interesting:
"Porizkova was born on 9 April 1965[4] near Prostějov, then in Czechoslovakia, to anti-Soviet dissident parents, Anna Pořízková and Jiří Pořízka. She was left in the care of her maternal grandmother after her parents fled to Sweden to escape the Warsaw Pact invasion. Czechoslovak authorities would not allow her parents to reclaim her, and the ensuing battle was widely publicized in the Swedish press, making her a cause célèbre.
When Porizkova was seven, her pregnant mother returned to Czechoslovakia by a fake passport in an attempt to rescue her. After the attempt failed, her mother was briefly detained by the national police and then placed under house arrest with her family. In 1973, international political pressure led by Olof Palme caused the communist government to allow the Pořízek family to be reunited. Porizkova's parents divorced after her father had an affair. She and her father, who refused to pay child support for his children, have been estranged since her youth. Her mother, a midwife, remarried at least twice and, as of 2010, was reported to be serving in the Peace Corps in Uganda."
So much to talk about, if you really interested in real Human story!
She left Soviet bloc country when she was 8 years old. She grew up in a dissident family, so most likely all she heard was anti-Soviet discourse. She was disowned by her father twice! and then by her husband. I think her father and other men she met in the West are much more responsible for the development of her feminist persona.
"My marriage was a sort of occupation."
Is this meant to signal feminist credentials, or abject lack of agency?
"Either say it and defend it or don't speak."
Well, in a rational world, that would make sense. Not in this one.
"Or do beautiful women have a special privilege to make aggressive analogies?"
Not just beautiful women. And not just aggressive analogies.
On the other hand, what special privileges do handsome men have these days? Making analogies might not be a high priority.
Sounds to me like two people had a marriage. It's hard to for me to see why anyone has to pick apart her words and sentiments in search of some Major Point, but then I'm just a straight man and I would say that. Trivial and ephemeral--exactly!
"OTOH, what special privileges do handsome men have these days?"
None. If anything we're resented by guys and distrusted by women even more than in the past.
I recall my father and grandfather laughing at a Mae West movie one Saturday afternoon back in the late 1960s. Under 10 me asked who she was, and my father said she was a funny actress from his childhood.
I hope I never have to explain Paulina and my youthful introduction to her charms to my grandchildren.
"But you made that political connection in your essay — between the occupying army and Ric."
Why the tenuous analogy to Ocasek in the grave when you have Biden in the White House?
Porizkova looks like the kind of chick James Bond would Smash, but he wouldn't trust her.
Imagine being so out of touch that you think women in America are oppressed or “occupied” or that this has been true for at least two decades!
Given Paulina's comments re marriage, go back and watch the video for "Drive". It makes me wonder what was said behind the scenes as part of the direction to get what they did from her.
Bizarre that a woman nobody's heard from in years gets the tough questioning and Biden gets all the softballs.
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