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Sounds? I listened to the sound and paid no attention to the substance, and the answer is clearly "no."

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mezzrow म्हणाले...

I see a wall with maps, photos, timelines, pins, colored string networks tied to the pins, and lots of writing. All in caps. Not an effective presentation. If he has something real, this isn't the way to sell it to me.

I suspect I'm not alone in this.

gilbar म्हणाले...

i listened to his Words, and his words sound Pretty Creditable to me

you can NOT use an unapproved 'vaccine', if there are functional treatments

CJinPA म्हणाले...

Other than "thousands of citations," which I can verify here, he did not seem credible.

Caroline म्हणाले...

I believe dr McCullough. I thought it was weird that no one was working on or talking about therapeutics. And it’s well known that Gates is a vax fanatic. Some Tetanus vaccines distributed in Latin America and Africa during the 90s contained an anti-fertility hormone. Oops.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

It's not suspicious that they expected it to be a corona virus since we'd already been hit with several, nor that Moderna was already doing advance work on a vaccine--for the same reason. Conspiracy theories aren't believable when they require 1,000s of conspirators.

Critter म्हणाले...

Is it not surprising that the CDC has not published any guidance on therapeutics for treating COVID-19 when there is so much credible information available from “rogue” doctors showing their success with various treatments?

Would you not try such therapeutics if you were infected? Everyone of our friends have researched the available data on this and have plans for using Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine if infected. Most have obtained supplies in advance so they will have the best treatments available to them because experience shows the effectiveness of such treatments depends on using them in the first five days of onset of symptoms. I am in the UCLA network for healthcare and their protocol is use of cortisone medications (Prednisone) immediately upon seeing symptoms? Does UCLA, rated as one of the top medical systems in the country “sound” credible to you? Yet they use treatments not recommended publicly by the CDC.

I have long suspected that Fauci’s views of treatments rests on his knowledge of what is being developed in Wuhan and elsewhere and his view that “vaccines” are a goldmine for his friends in Big Pharma. I want to see Fauci’s personal financial records for the past 40 years to see how much Big Pharma has reserved for “the big guy” just like The CCP reserved 10% for Joe Biden.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The wealthy-overlords (tech, media, big pharma, big gov) would never conspire to manipulate, control, panic and hurt anyone. Stop it.
Fauci cares.
Especially if it grants Pelosi-Biden-FBI and the big tech-big big pharma corporate Media-whores and the cabal of assholes behind them, more power.

Iman म्हणाले...

Sold American!

Achilles म्हणाले...

I bet he is being more honest and is closer to the truth than Anthony Fauci.

TeaBagHag म्हणाले...

Joe Rogan = Oprah for men.

Achilles म्हणाले...

"Sounds? I listened to the sound and paid not attention to the substance, and the answer is clearly "no.""

Read that through again. You were trying to do something with not.

Ann prefers to get her information from non-trashy sources like the NYT's and WAPO.

People aren't here for your judgement or discernment Ann.

I don't think there was necessarily a global conspiracy. But there are several facts that the Governments and Global Media are trying and failing to cover up and the tech giants are trying to cover up:

- People who have had COVID have much better resistance than people who have been vaccinated. This is an unassailable fact proven by numerous studies.

- Anthony Fauci funded the development of COVID-19 by funneling US Tax Dollars to China.

- China developed and released a bio-weapon on the world.

- The number of people who officially died from Flu and Pneumonia in 2020 in the US is 0.

- Countries using Ivermectin have lower death rates.

- Countries are using vaccination status to throw people in internment camps right now. Germany with no sense of history or irony is wrapping the yellow star on the un-vaxxed as we speak.

You know who isn't credible?

People who are going along with this.

Humperdink म्हणाले...

During my personal Covid experience, I suggested treatments to both the Urgent Care personnel and my primary care doctor. Urgent Care scoffed while my primary care doc said Ivermectin was toxic. Their suggested treatment: ride it out.

Jake म्हणाले...

Yeah, it would be unheard of for hundred-billion dollar plus size companies to flood the zone with disinformation on therapies other than theirs for the purpose of making record gains and profits. I can't imagine that could or would ever happen.

JK Brown म्हणाले...

Sadly, by BS meter went off. But this must be tempered with the reality that many things that sounded and were presented incredible turned out to be true. The Russia Hoax, etc.

dbp म्हणाले...

The Dr. seems completely crazy.

That said, while vaccinated--both the pro and anti vaxx sides are mostly ideologically based.

The pro-vaxxers act like it's a panacea, even as the efficacy is dropping due to variants. The anti-vaxxers over-emphasized the side effects and minimized the efficacy, even when it worked pretty well.

Ironclad म्हणाले...

I think it’s simpler than a grand conspiracy - first, Covid was the club to destroy Trump and the “great and good” decided that to maximize terror they would trash any treatment that showed promise in ameliorating the severity of the disease (even if it worked). Second , it was realized early on that the vaccines were no more effective than flu shots in preventing the spread, they just reduced the severity of the infection , but their effectiveness in that diminished rapidly - hence booster booster booster!

Buck Fiden fell into his own trap with the vaccine too - he used it to bash Trump but bet the farm it would “save the day” if he got into office. Now he’s in and it’s not working that well, he can’t say “never mind” and return to normal. If he did that would put all of his buddies who lied and pushed pandemic porn off the ledge. So he’s stuck in “vaccine forever and the only solution” mode.

Any other disease, natural acquired immunity and palliative treatments such HCQ and Ivermectin would be touted as ways to “beat the virus”. We don’t even know how many had it because most don’t show symptoms either. It’s made the CDC a joke.

But the money bus - the “Covid relief” payments to medical and funeral and everything else have warped behavior to cash in. That and Big Pharma with their new Oxytocin doing horrible long term injury to the young with heart issues. It’s all about the Benjamins you know.

Lincolntf म्हणाले...

I am about halfway through the full podcast. Very interesting.

mikee म्हणाले...

There are two ways to fight infectious disease: vaccination and treatment. Yes, vaccination was promoted during COVID. There were no known treatments, and Fauci has pushed vaccination for disease prevention since he was involved in AIDS research 40 years ago. Now COVID has an amazing but short-lasting vaccine AND treatments, and COVID panic should be over.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

It makes sense that scientists would plan ahead for a mutated corona virus.

But given that, I still believe the Commies weaponized it after it leaked from the lab, and did everything possible to spread it around the world.

You might even convince me they designed the virus and leaked it on purpose.

I believe totalitarian communists will do anything to further their cause...

PM म्हणाले...

Not only that, there are exactly 57 card-carrying members of the Communist Party in the Department of Defense at this time.

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

Sounds like the Gates Team, that has always wanted to kick start modern population reduction to purify the Earth, has found that wars and famines are just not killing the surplus people fast enough, so pestilence must be deployed as their weapon #1.

The mad scientists of Virology must be obeyed. And then come the mad scientists of Global Warming next in line to be obeyed.

CJ म्हणाले...

I've listened to several interviews with McCullough and found him quite credible. He whispers oddly in this one; it's not typical of his delivery. As to the substance of what he's saying, well of course it's true - treatments with repurposed drugs for covid patients have been systematically discouraged. Outpatient treatment itself has been discouraged - for what other disease is that the case? "You're infected? Stay home until you're so sick you have to go the emergency." Is this the procedure for anything else?

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

That tweet sounds credible to me, without even watching the video clip. Totally possible.

Achilles म्हणाले...

"Sounds? I listened to the sound and paid no attention to the substance, and the answer is clearly "no.""

Atlantic writer David Frum calls for hospitals to 'quietly' 'serve the unvaccinated last'

Here is the complete Frum meltdown from the horses mouth.


Who is sounding more unhinged right now? The vaccine Nazi's? or the global conspiracy nuts?

I read all of the things they are feeding the retards on the suggested twitter feeds and the facebook recommendations.

Nobody is buying the Vaccine Nazi crap.

More people watch Rogan than most of the MSM combined. They tried to cancel him and failed.

It is all over now but for the crying.

TheDopeFromHope म्हणाले...

I have no idea whether what this doctor says is true. I do know that what he says can either be confirmed or refuted. Someone get on it.

Achilles म्हणाले...

You know what is polling around 15-20%?

Vaccine and mask mandates.

Almost everyone who is against the Vaccine mandates have been vaccinated multiple times.

There is a reason the Vaccine Nazi's are so dishonest about what this is about. National Socialism and Face Diapers and internment camps are only popular with the shittiest type of person.

c365 म्हणाले...

He starts off like he sounds like he's whispering a secret. Maybe it's that he's actually really earnest.

Achilles म्हणाले...

One thing I will point out is that this guy does not sound comfortable on this podcast.

Most people who are not used to talking sound a lot like this.

But the people that talk a lot on our media do sound comfortable even while they are telling obvious lies.

"Sounds? I listened to the sound and paid no attention to the substance, and the answer is clearly "no.""

I think we would all do well to understand Ann's point here. I am recently trying to learn to speak on video. I am looking at the difference between successful Youtube influencers and almost everyone else.

The difference I have so far been able to discern is energy and passion and if on video movement and gesticulation.

I know this is a well covered topic but it is often overlooked. Scott Adams made it his tagline.

walter म्हणाले...

Having listened to Mccullough in various forums, his delivery here is more hurried and frantic sounding than typical.
I'm not surprised, in a way, since he's been under attack for so long despite being a highly published MD who has watched Covid turn all the usual back and forth of science into censorship of anything outside a designated narrative. It surely, as a cardiologist, to witness Vax inc pushing into lower and lower ages.
He feels he has to quote so many sources and citations whenever he goes on record because of dopes like Scotty dismiss him as "rowwwwwgue"
Scotty has decided to use his platform to sling label of "rowwwwgue doctors" against heavy hitters like McCullough and highlight this slice instead of listening to presentation beginning to end.
#artist

Lars Porsena म्हणाले...

The fact that there are none of the usual cuts of this segment on YT shows you the wisdom of Rogan's move to Spotify.

Jaq म्हणाले...

They have been working on a vaccine for the common cold for years. We know a lot about coronavirus from that work, we have known about fading immunity for decades with regard to coronavirus, but let’s pretend that it is a huge conspiracy

walter म्हणाले...

McCullough, by the way, has been a big proponent of monoclonals as part of protocol.
I my have missed it, but Scotty's been ignoring that treatment in his podacasts, even as FDA has silently increased access to those exposed as well as prophylactically to some groups.
You would think we would be inundated with that news.
Crickets.
Not at all suspicious...

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

He just sounded like a conspiracy theory guy. Made me think of this guy (the JFK conspiracy theory guy in the movie "Slacker").

Aggie म्हणाले...

I don't believe in grand conspiracy theories, and I also don't believe in pushing people into that category - the old 'denier' pejorative - just because they are expressing skepticism about something honestly and have questions that just won't get answered. Skepticism is a survival instinct, and healthy. Transparency on societal issues is healthy too, and we're not getting enough of it.

I think some of what McCullough says strikes immediately true. Why has there been such a concerted effort to quash HCQ and Ivermectin, to demonize them, when they have clearly won acceptance in other countries, and are clearly supported with clinical research? Doesn't make sense. It certainly isn't the kind of open debate that would put people's minds at rest.

And why is vaccination touted as the only solution to COVID 19? It won't help you, if you're already sick with it. The hospitals all have treatment protocols in place, but all of these are for people who are desperately ill. McCulluogh is right to point out that early treatments can have huge benefits, and in this regard, the US health care system dropped the ball completely by overstating insistence on vaccines for all. Vaccines are beneficial for those at risk, and might be beneficial for most, and maybe even all - but they're not the only thing for everything when it comes to treating COVID.

One can be an intelligent, inquiring person and see that certain things just don't add up; For me the most glaring is the sleight-of-hand the plague-mongers have played tricking the public by approving a vaccine, and then withholding the approved labelled vaccine while continuing to hawk the one administered under the Emergency Use Authorization, saying 'it's just the same'. It's not just the same, and the Pharmas know that fact very well, all the way down to the bottom of their lawyer's pocketbook, and all the way to the top of their indemnities. It stinks to high heaven. Is the government's silence on this a conspiracy theory, or an actual observable fact?

Lincolntf म्हणाले...

He cited multiple sources, specifically, with Agencies and Sources identified individually. If he's a conspiracy nut, the people that he accused (obliquely) will respond immediately. Rogan has a far larger audience than CNN, etc., they would refute his claims if they could do it and still retain any professional credibility, apparently they can't.
The guy obviously believes that using the vaccine as a panacea is garbage, but he does not come off as particularly ideological. Certainly far less so than Fauci.

Nichevo म्हणाले...

Sounds? I listened to the sound and paid no attention to the substance

Tell us that you're stupid without saying that you're stupid.

cnnenfreude म्हणाले...

Who needs Cable News when you can just come to Althouse for your edited clips taken out of context.

I encourage all to watch the whole thing. He is far less conspiratorial than this clip. His focus is on hive-mindedness and incompetence of the bureaucracy and government leadership.

walter म्हणाले...

Maybe Joe slipped him an edible.

Howard म्हणाले...

I have doc friends who work in big hospitals. More hospitalized and ICU Covid cases now than this time last year. Death rate much lower. Between the loss of med workers by choice and now by antivaxer status, they are in triage mode now expecting a winter flood of new Covid cases.

Alex Jones says that hospitals are hiring actors to play patient roles to help sell the fake news plandemic crisis. With their advanced "Method" acting skills, even the doctors and nurses are fooled into believing these people are actually sick. You guessed it. George Soros is paying Harvey Weinstein to produce this farce.

TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed म्हणाले...

"Conspiracy theory" is not unlike "misinformation", "science denier", etc. Just a simple, silly, semi-effective ad hominem to avoid engaging with the argument.

These days, if someone is called a "conspiracy theorist" or is "spreading misinformation" - regardless of how they sound, I presume that they are a reliable source who otherwise doesn't toe the propaganda line.

As for the good Doctor, his whisper calls to mind the weird whispering thing that Buck Fiden does during his public appearances.

Wa St Blogger म्हणाले...

Not only that, there are exactly 57 card-carrying members of the Communist Party in the Department of Defense at this time.

One of each gender?

Inga म्हणाले...

He sounds as nutty as the stuff he pushes.

Lawsuit: Former Baylor Scott & White doctor used Baylor title while spreading COVID-19 misinformation

Baylor, one of the largest healthcare systems in Texas, filed the suit against Dr. Peter A. McCullough in Dallas County District Court last month.

Wa St Blogger म्हणाले...

Once upon a time I would quickly dismiss this guy as a CT, and I still don't want to believe that our government, at this day and age would do some of the things he claims, but my cherry has been popped with all the anti-Trump affairs, and now I am open to giving him a fair hearing.

MarkCh म्हणाले...

I think he assumes that, because Corona madness is too synchronized to be coincidence, there must have been a plan. Commentator Eugyppius posits a third option here

Birches म्हणाले...

Yeah, I've never watched It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, but I imagine the guy in the well known meme talks exactly like the doctor.

Tomcc म्हणाले...

I'm somewhat curious about any side effects from the vaccine. Other than the blood clot events that were initially associated with the J&J vaccine, I've seen nothing. I hope that means that the vaccine (at least in the short term) is exceptionally safe. My skeptical nature questions whether there are side effects which are being suppressed.

Rollo म्हणाले...

I didn't listen to him, but the idea is certainly plausible. The idea that the virus escaped from a lab was supposed to be a wild conspiracy theory. So was the idea that the COVID statistics were being padded. Both of those views are much more plausible than the media said they were a year ago. I pretty much take it for granted that Fauci and the media are lying . Trust the tale (if the evidence is there), not the teller.

n.n म्हणाले...

Early, effective, affordable, safe treatments stigmatized, denied, and colored, masks mandates with viable legal indemnity, non-sterilizing "vaccines" with excess adverse events that follow the cargo cult, planned parent/hood that was neither a good nor exclusive Choice, and collateral damage.

Richard म्हणाले...

It's one thing, I suppose, to downplay therapeutics. It's another to lie about them. "horse paste". Rolling Stone did a hugely amateurish job. But they thought it was necessary, even though a kid could have seen through it.
Expending energy is different from ignoring. Got a good reason for this outside of some conspiracy? I suppose they could haul out the UVA rape hoax defense; "We're really, really, stupid. Couldn't help it."
Governors threatened to pull the licenses of physicians who prescribed HCQ.
Lancet ran a piece dismissing HCQ's effectiveness. Later, they withdrew it. That the withdrawal was shortly after the election is, of course, a coincidence.
And now that ivermectin is seen to work, shouldn't we hear from those who opposed it? Apologies or something?
Or is it all accident and incomplete information? Well, then, let's hear that.

And, of course, conspiracies require conspiring. Absence of conspiring means....? Pavlov's dogs didn't conspire to salivate. and if a Brinks truck loses a couple of hundred k in small bills on a windy morning, you don[t need to arrange a community meeting to get a bunch of folks running around picking it up.

Jaq म्हणाले...

After Fauci nobly lied about masks, he has earned the mistrust. If Biden fired him, he would get a bump in the polls

Scott Patton म्हणाले...

Hinky

NorthOfTheOneOhOne म्हणाले...

Like a lot of conspiracy guys he sounds plausible up until you ask yourself; "What would be the point of engaging in such a conspiracy?", that's when the whole thing falls to shit.

Lincolntf म्हणाले...

AA said, "He just sounded like a conspiracy theory guy. Made me think of this guy (the JFK conspiracy theory guy in the movie "Slacker")."
I would expect nothing more from an NYT reader, to whom the truth is secondary to the headline.

wildswan म्हणाले...

No, he did not sound credible - fast, whispery, and conspiratorial. Moreover, this doctor says that the Johns Hopkins simulation called The SPARS Pandemic 2025-2028 lays out a plan to have no treatments in order to force vaccinations. This is not so.
The Johns Hopkins simulation imagines that there is a treatment available right away and that it is used right away and that some people resist the treatment (very much for the reasons for which in the case of Covid the government and public health people resisted all Covid treatments but that's another story.) A vaccination is then developed by an accelerated program and the vaccination is also is widely used. Both the drug and the vaccine then prove to have problems for some but still, not for a moment, is it suggested that the drug and vaccine should not have been used. The theme is rather: how should uncertainty about the scientific truth about a new disease and a new use for an established drug and a new vaccine have been best communicated? i.e., How can health authorities reestablish public confidence in [public health] recommendations while also speaking truthfully about the [changing] state of knowledge about Corovax’s safety and efficacy profile?

Here below is the relevant summary of Chapter Nine which discusses the drug and the vaccine rollouts, fallout from drug and vaccine side effects for some people and best practices in messaging in that situation:
"Maintaining Public Support After Changing Positions on MCM Safety and Efficacy
FOOD FOR THOUGHT
1) In the time leading up to the newly revealed data about antiviral safety and efficacy, how might health communicators have better prepared the public for uncertainty and fluidity of crisis response and the need to act in the absence of complete information?
2) In light of waning public confidence in official statements about antiviral risks and benefits, how should health authorities best lay the groundwork for the release of the novel Corovax vaccine?
3) How can health authorities reestablish public confidence in MCM recommendations while also speaking truthfully about the state of knowledge about Corovax’s safety and efficacy profile?"

https://carterheavyindustries.files.wordpress.com/2021/06/the-spars-pandemic-2025-2028.pdf

Jupiter म्हणाले...

An "emergency" authorization is only allowed if there is no approved treatment. Had the FDA approved HCQ or ivermectin as treatments for COVID, the authorization would be void, which would cost certain people a lot of money. Fauci is one of those people. But here, listen to the experience of a doctor working for a corporate hospital who tried to save the lives of his patients (Spoiler - they died, he got fired, Merck made billions)

Lincolntf म्हणाले...

"He just sounded like a conspiracy theory guy. Made me think of this guy (the JFK conspiracy theory guy in the movie "Slacker")."
Did you listen to the entire podcast or did you ignore the hours of context to fake cruel neutrality? McCulloch is far more informed and informative than anyone on this blog, maybe you should listen to him.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

I chose to answer Scott’s question. I can’t do everything.

You’re free to lay out the substance here if it’s so strong but I bet it’s not.

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Blogger Humperdink said...

my primary care doc said Ivermectin was toxic. Their suggested treatment: ride it out.

That should have been the signal for you to run screaming from that doctor.

Ivermectin is completely safe. There is no argument about that. A billion people a day take it. The human version, not the animal version.

It is possible to overdose on it. It is possible to overdose on water and die too. But I think you have to take something like 10 times the normal dose to have any adverse side effects.

The question with Ivermectin is not safety, it is whether it is effective as a treatment for Kung flu. (ditto HQL)

The thing that REALLY!! pisses me off is that it, and HQL are not permitted. There is no other therapeutic alternative, it might help, can't hurt.

So why not let people try it? 30 days of widespread use would be enough to put the lie to it's effectiveness. Or show that it is effective.

I could see not permitting it if it were dangerous or untried. But it is neither.

Ditto HQL.

John LGBTQBNY Henry

Darkisland म्हणाले...

One does not need to be a conspiracy theorist to notice:

That the reported Chinese death rate is about 1/800th of the reported US death rate. 2,460/mm for the US and 3 for China.

-That the Chinese have the world's largest database of American DNA thanks to all the US shitheads who sent their DNA to China via 23&me, Ancestry.com and other harvesters. Not only does China have the samples, if you sent in a sample, you explicitly gave China permission to use it for research. If you sent your DNA in to any of these services (they all use the same Chinese lab) please do us all a favor and FOAD.

-That we have several therapeutics, ivermectin and HQL that have a long 50+ year and wide, billions of doses a day around the world and are absolutely safe. Yet, we are not permitted to use them. Even if they don't work medically, they could have a placebo effect at the very least.

-The vaccine does not seem to be effective at all. We have more deaths and hospitalizations in the year with the vaccine that we had in the year without.

-So far the omicron seems not only completely harmless (zero deaths worldwide so far* Few, possibly zero, hospitalizations) but the level of panic has been cranked up to 11.

I guess it COULD be due to stupidity and incompetence. Maybe even just coincidence.

But I would not bet more than a day old donut on it.

John LGBTQNY Henry

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Forgot the footnote

*There was a death reported in England yesterday. Not "from" omicron but "with" omicron. The actual cause of death has not, that I saw, been reported.

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Blogger Howard said...

I have doc friends who work in big hospitals. More hospitalized and ICU Covid cases now than this time last year. Death rate much lower.

Do you mean the death rate for hospitalized? I've not heard this but it could be true. They might do better at keeping people alive once hospitalized.

If you mean overall death rate, I think you are wrong. Feb-Dec 2022 saw more kungflu deaths than the same period in 21 (with no vaccine)

Unless the US population increased dramatically, which I doubt, that would mean the death rate for the 2 periods is similar.

21 should have been significantly higher since we know better how to treat it in 22, we have more therapeutics, and many of the most vulnerable already died in 21. But it's not. 22 is the same as 21, more or less.

walter म्हणाले...

He might be open to "conspiracy theories" after witnessing FDA, pharmacies and hospitals and "news" suddenly interfering in his ability to practice medicine.

walter म्हणाले...

He has also witnessed peers having research accepted for publication, then blocked without explanation.

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Blogger Aggie said...

by approving a vaccine, and then withholding the approved labelled vaccine while continuing to hawk the one administered under the Emergency Use Authorization, saying 'it's just the same'. It's not just the same,

I have direct, personal, knowledge of how the Pfizer vaccine is manufactured. The ONLY change that took place after authorization was the name on the label and other packaging.

The vaccine manufactured under the EUA was manufactured by Pfizer as a Pfizer product. Pfizer paid Biontech a licensing fee for the right to use Biontech's technology/intellectual property.

After approval, Pfizer continued manufacturing the identical product. And I mean identical in all senses of the word. Other than the name on the packaging.

But there was a legal change.

Now it is not a Pfizer product made under license with Pfizer paying Biontech for the right to do so.

Now it is a Biontech product that Biontech pays Pfizer to make for them. It is called "contract manufacturng" and is a common practice. Bayer, for example, makes (or used to) store brand aspirin for Walgreens, CVS, Walmart and anyone else who wants it.

Now, instead of saying Pfizer on the label, it says Comnraty and Biontech on the label.

I wondered about the reason for this change and the other day it hit me. "vaccines" are shielded from normal product liability law. This product does not meet the traditional or legal definition of a "vaccine". The legal definition has been rejiggered in the US so that it now covers the kungflu vaccine.

So Pfizer and Biontech should be safe.

But, I suspect that if there are problems, clever lawyers could argue that it is not really a vaccine, that the law was changed after the fact and perhaps some other arguments. A court might find that it is not shielded and billion$ would be at risk in lawsuits.

The Pfizer vaccine was made under EUA. Pfizer can say "Hey, you all knew that it was not approved, that it was risky, yadda, yadda, yadda but you took it anyway. Not our responsibility"

But those who took the approved vaccine, if they have a case, have to go after a German company. Makes suing much harder and who knows what protections German law might provide. Plus Biontech has much shorter pockets than Pfizer.

The what happened is fact. The why it happened is pure speculation on my part.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Inga said...

He sounds as nutty as the stuff he pushes.

Lawsuit: Former Baylor Scott & White doctor used Baylor title while spreading COVID-19 misinformation

Baylor, one of the largest healthcare systems in Texas, filed the suit against Dr. Peter A. McCullough in Dallas County District Court last month.


This person pushed the Russian Collusion conspiracy theory for 4 years.

This person pushed the Kavanaugh gang rape conspiracy and Christine Blasey Ford rape lies for months.

This person pushed the Carter Paige is a Russian spy conspiracy for years.

Now this person shows up and pretends she is not a completely joke calling other people conspiracy theorists.

Please do not stop posting though. Everyone needs to know who these people actually are.

Achilles म्हणाले...

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Like a lot of conspiracy guys he sounds plausible up until you ask yourself; "What would be the point of engaging in such a conspiracy?", that's when the whole thing falls to shit.

Um.

The last 2 years has been the leftist fascist's wet dream.

They have destroyed the working and middle class mostly using lockdowns and customer limits.

They implemented and expanded mail in voting schemes and vote harvesting using COVID as an excuse.

They are opening up concentration camps in several countries.

What is the point of COVID hysteria? That is pretty obvious. The undeniable facts that it was 1. developed by China and 2. Funded by the very bureaucrats in the US that immediately seized emergency powers should be enough for anyone to start digging a little more.

If that isn't enough the concentration camps and censorship should give you some motivation to be a little skeptical.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

I didn't bother listening. I've already stated, and more than just once or twice, that the US medical establishment erred badly by putting all its effort into vaccination and none into treatments. Now that we've discovered that medical side effects of the vaccinations are not as rare nor as mild as hitherto advertised, and that "breakthrough" cases are not particularly rare, it seems I am right.

Scott म्हणाले...

"I chose to answer Scott’s question. I can’t do everything.

You’re free to lay out the substance here if it’s so strong but I bet it’s not."

You should listen to it Ann. Your response here is truly pathetic, and shows a closed mind. Very sad for you

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

Never assign to malice that which can be blamed on incompetence. Our health officials and most of our leaders are imcompetent. Add in their natural avarice, and you have a nasty mix. D.C. needs to be burned to the ground and the ground salted. We as a country need to start over from scratch.

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

id the people who told you to disinfect your shoes sound credible to you?

Aggie म्हणाले...

@Darkisland 8:27pm. This was my point precisely. And the government has said exactly nothing to clarify it. And the Corporate Media has done exactly nothing to highlight and investigate it. Sometimes conspiracies take their shape all by themselves with a lack of mention contributing to its definition. Not theory.

jg म्हणाले...

It appears that, perhaps after development work on 'vaccines' was mostly finished, drug companies did begin developing therapeautics. It's unsurprising that these companies would go after the most profitable item first (few people will need a therapeautic; everyone 'needs' a 'vaccine').

jg म्हणाले...

Sometimes doctors believe correctly in outcome-suboptimal economic incentives for institutions in their field. Whether they're a good communicator, or get crazy-voiced, isn't really relevant for judging the content except at a 'should i even pay attention to the evidence he presents' time-saving heuristic level.

jg म्हणाले...

'sounds credible' usually means listening to the words, too. very facile stuff, ann.

walter म्हणाले...

For those who prefer a more high falootin' forum, he has been on Darkhorse podcast recently.