Althouse your newest commenting/moderation formula seems to me to be working very well.
I imagine that, like your blog posts themselves, it is harder than it looks, while you make it appear easy. I do miss the days of the early Walker Administration in Madison and the sorts of commenters that your nationally-renowned blogging attracted. But times change, readers change and given the moment we’re in, I feel strongly that you’ve done the right thing.
It used to be that if I had some personal experience that led me to a particular point of view that you hadn’t had, we could discuss the matter. You would say : “Well here’s how it looks to me, but I wasn’t there, and didn’t have your experience.” And I would say: “Maybe I am too close to the situation and don’t have the perspective on it that you do.” And we would go from there.
Now it seems more likely that I would say: “Your stance of objectivity is a mechanism for perpetuating a racist/sexist/ableist, etc. system and you must bow down to my Truth and my Lived Experience.”
I call this the triumph of subjectivity.
Likewise, I might claim (when we have a dispute) that due to the workings of the mysterious, yet all-powerful, “power dynamic” you were in a position of power over me; and by virtue of my making that claim, I now have power over you for purposes of this dispute.”
I call this power inversion.
The woke employ both of these moves liberally (though they are otherwise illiberal.)
Sitting here at the ER in Seattle with #5, not much to do but watch and think. The people I see and the people I know (who run a wide gamut) don’t fit all the stereotypes I watch and read about. I guess it’s convenient to put people into buckets, but the only bucket I want to use is the one that says the vast majority of people are polite, respectful (except the ones online and the ones who make money being otherwise) and would never want to do harm to anyone. But all I hear about is how awful everyone is. I think our government made a huge mistake in treating us like kids and villains. When the told us 2 weeks to flatten the curve everyone seemed totally on board. We wanted to be helpful and do the right thing. But the the story changed, the demands came the attitude of shut up and do what you are told came. They treated us like opponents and children, like we could not be trusted to behave. Well, when you treat people with contempt, you get resistance. I bet there would be a whole lot more goodwill and helpfulness if they told us upfront. We are short on masks, so use what alternatives you can find until we get supplies. I bet it would have worked. If they said we don’t have all th information about COVID we would like so we are taking a conservative approach and looking for ways to limit contact. Here is how you can help. Some of you might lose income, so is bigwigs will cut our pay to help fund support. Vaccines will help, but if you don’t want to, be respectful and limit contact and wear a mask. We know masks won’t help the wearer from getting it much, but It can help those who might have it without knowing limit spreading, so be kind to your neighbors. I would like to think that talk like that would get people on board more than lying, and berating would.
Sorry this is a bit disjointed, I’m not good at texting on the phone.
Today -- Friday, Aug. 13 -- is the day in 1982 that the stock market made its low after a 16-year bear market. The Dow Industrials closed that day at 777.
The DJIA was in the 500s in 1974, the year President Nixon resigned and several months into the first successful OPEC oil embargo. But the intervening eight years of inflation, rising into double-digit rates, made the purchasing power at 777 the lowest point the Industrials reached over those 16 years from the high just over Dow 1000.
Yesterday the DJIA closed at 35,500. I remember that some farsighted investors, even in the seemingly endless sinking spells of 1982, were calling for Dow 3600 and even Dow 4800. John Templeton was one such. Those numbers when mentioned to most people brought looks of incredulity.
We really have become quite divided as a society. It’s one thing to be divided over what political party to vote for, but now we are divided about what our basic freedoms are. It really unsettles me that COVID vaccines are being mandated at the same time we are being told they a aren’t effective enough to stop the transmission of disease (ie mask mandates). I have patients on both sides of the divide and they are vehement in their beliefs. Also colleagues. Often, someone will say to me, “Shouldn’t we follow the science?” and I think to myself the “science” isn’t as clear cut as the filter they’ve received it through makes it seem, but I am at a loss as to how to explain that to them. As Lucien pointed out, we’ve lost the ability to truly argue rather than fight and as Wa St pointed out those in positions of authority have lost the ability to treat us like adults.
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"... you can talk about whatever you like."
But I will only put through things that I think readers will find rewarding.
Althouse your newest commenting/moderation formula seems to me to be working very well.
I imagine that, like your blog posts themselves, it is harder than it looks, while you make it appear easy. I do miss the days of the early Walker Administration in Madison and the sorts of commenters that your nationally-renowned blogging attracted. But times change, readers change and given the moment we’re in, I feel strongly that you’ve done the right thing.
It used to be that if I had some personal experience that led me to a particular point of view that you hadn’t had, we could discuss the matter. You would say : “Well here’s how it looks to me, but I wasn’t there, and didn’t have your experience.” And I would say: “Maybe I am too close to the situation and don’t have the perspective on it that you do.” And we would go from there.
Now it seems more likely that I would say: “Your stance of objectivity is a mechanism for perpetuating a racist/sexist/ableist, etc. system and you must bow down to my Truth and my Lived Experience.”
I call this the triumph of subjectivity.
Likewise, I might claim (when we have a dispute) that due to the workings of the mysterious, yet all-powerful, “power dynamic” you were in a position of power over me; and by virtue of my making that claim, I now have power over you for purposes of this dispute.”
I call this power inversion.
The woke employ both of these moves liberally (though they are otherwise illiberal.)
Very nice sunrise! I like the wild mix of colors.
Sitting here at the ER in Seattle with #5, not much to do but watch and think. The people I see and the people I know (who run a wide gamut) don’t fit all the stereotypes I watch and read about. I guess it’s convenient to put people into buckets, but the only bucket I want to use is the one that says the vast majority of people are polite, respectful (except the ones online and the ones who make money being otherwise) and would never want to do harm to anyone. But all I hear about is how awful everyone is. I think our government made a huge mistake in treating us like kids and villains. When the told us 2 weeks to flatten the curve everyone seemed totally on board. We wanted to be helpful and do the right thing. But the the story changed, the demands came the attitude of shut up and do what you are told came. They treated us like opponents and children, like we could not be trusted to behave. Well, when you treat people with contempt, you get resistance. I bet there would be a whole lot more goodwill and helpfulness if they told us upfront. We are short on masks, so use what alternatives you can find until we get supplies. I bet it would have worked. If they said we don’t have all th information about COVID we would like so we are taking a conservative approach and looking for ways to limit contact. Here is how you can help. Some of you might lose income, so is bigwigs will cut our pay to help fund support. Vaccines will help, but if you don’t want to, be respectful and limit contact and wear a mask. We know masks won’t help the wearer from getting it much, but It can help those who might have it without knowing limit spreading, so be kind to your neighbors. I would like to think that talk like that would get people on board more than lying, and berating would.
Sorry this is a bit disjointed, I’m not good at texting on the phone.
Althouse your newest commenting/moderation formula seems to me to be working very well.
Obviously, the formula needs work.
The Seattle Times has documented the return of the MURDER HORNET.
......and I was just running out of things to worry about!!
Wa St Blogger said...Sorry this is a bit disjointed, I’m not good at texting on the phone.
I hear ya! The form and sometimes even the content of the comment I leave is as affected by the device I’m using as by the thought in my head.
Today -- Friday, Aug. 13 -- is the day in 1982 that the stock market made its low after a 16-year bear market. The Dow Industrials closed that day at 777.
The DJIA was in the 500s in 1974, the year President Nixon resigned and several months into the first successful OPEC oil embargo. But the intervening eight years of inflation, rising into double-digit rates, made the purchasing power at 777 the lowest point the Industrials reached over those 16 years from the high just over Dow 1000.
Yesterday the DJIA closed at 35,500. I remember that some farsighted investors, even in the seemingly endless sinking spells of 1982, were calling for Dow 3600 and even Dow 4800. John Templeton was one such. Those numbers when mentioned to most people brought looks of incredulity.
We really have become quite divided as a society. It’s one thing to be divided over what political party to vote for, but now we are divided about what our basic freedoms are. It really unsettles me that COVID vaccines are being mandated at the same time we are being told they a aren’t effective enough to stop the transmission of disease (ie mask mandates). I have patients on both sides of the divide and they are vehement in their beliefs. Also colleagues. Often, someone will say to me, “Shouldn’t we follow the science?” and I think to myself the “science” isn’t as clear cut as the filter they’ve received it through makes it seem, but I am at a loss as to how to explain that to them. As Lucien pointed out, we’ve lost the ability to truly argue rather than fight and as Wa St pointed out those in positions of authority have lost the ability to treat us like adults.
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Synonyms: bootlicking, fawning, sycophantic, toadyish, insincere, servile
Usage example: "Chuck has yet to realize Althouse is immune to obsequious comments.
Al Frank used to peddle his "Dow 36000" back in the 80's. He was right, after a mere 40 years.
The article was up to the point and described the information about education and learning. Thanks to blog author for wonderful and informative post. Business Funding
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