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March 12, 2021

At the Sunrise Café...

... you can talk about anything you want.

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The rule of Lemnity said...: Here’s the kicker...

I’ve never taken a flu shot. Maybe when I was little I did.

If I’m going to start now, when I’m over 50, there better be a rock solid reason, and the shot in my arm better be safe.

The people’s who’s job it is to inform have missed everything that they should have been on top off.

To paraphrase Althouse. The insurrection at your doorstep (your blood stream) is very real.; 3/13/21, 2:29 AM
gadfly said...: The Republican Party in the era following Donald J. Trump’s presidency is comprised of five “tribes” . . . according to a new survey by Mr. Trump’s former pollster.

It was conducted by the Republican polling firm Fabrizio and Lee — which worked for Mr. Trump in his 2020 campaign . . . .

The group identified as “Die-hard Trumpers” — supporters . . . who don’t believe in QAnon conspiracy theories — comprised 27 percent of the 1284 Republican voters surveyed.

Another 28 percent comprised the “Trump Boosters,” . . . only a slight majority . . . support him being the nominee again, and they are more supportive of the . . . Party than Mr. Trump . . . .

“Never Trump” Republicans comprised 15 percent of the Republicans surveyed.

Another 20 percent were described as “Post-Trump G.O.P.,” who . . . want to see someone else as nominee.

The “Infowars G.O.P.” voters comprised 10 percent . . . . Only 13 percent of all the voters surveyed believed in QAnon conspiracy theories, the poll showed, but 69 percent of the “Infowars G.O.P.” voters backed those theories.

Maggie Haberman didn't tell us who paid for the survey! But it sounds to me like this gem is designed to counter the Trump "Don't Use My Name" game.; 3/13/21, 2:31 AM
The rule of Lemnity said...: I get the impression NY’s nursing home deaths are probably overwhelmingly white. The harassment case story would not be as prominent in the headlines had there been more people of color in nursing homes. So I guess you could say, Cuomo might survive do to systemic racism at nursing homes.
Oh shit.; 3/13/21, 3:07 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: Mark said...

"That's why you need a system. You already got it -- meaning. And the point of the system is to be free."

That makes no sense - I just said "no religion required"; 3/13/21, 4:51 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: Mark said...
Like I said, Crack's an OK guy. I don't know where he is coming from with some of his stuff, or where he gets some of his ideas exactly (although personal experience clearly plays a part. What he says is sometimes all jumbled up and I can't follow it, but he is earnest.

Well, when I say I had to get off the sidewalk for whites when I was a kid, and the first thing Michael K (or one of these other wonderful human beings) does is call me a liar - mind you: not about some ignorant speculation or assumptions on black life (like you assholes usually spend your time doing) that tends to make me correct you, but calling me a liar about my own life story - THAT'S NOT HOW YOU HOLD A CONVERSATION. And you guys tends to encourage that kind of nonsense, so what I say is sometimes all jumbled up and you can't follow it.

My bad, of course. It's always the black guy's fault with you guys.; 3/13/21, 4:58 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: Mark said...
Questions for Thought

Not really.

I think white people would do better to be asking what right and wrong are - for all of our sakes - because they seem to have missed it.

You got God down already.; 3/13/21, 5:01 AM
Mr. Forward said...: Shouting down a well will get you a beautiful echo. Lean forward enough you might see yourself in the reflection. A little more and you might fall in. The best wells come with a crank.; 3/13/21, 5:03 AM
320Busdriver said...: Watching the sun rise here on the space coast beach on the last day of vaca. Waves are more rhythmic and spaced today. It’s going to be a beautiful day.

We’ll gain an hour going home and lose it when we go to bed.; 3/13/21, 5:04 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: Mark said...
God is an utterly crazy idea. Absolutely absurd.

In fact, the only thing more nonsensical is the non-existence of God.

Bullshit. I got a copy of "On Bullshit" and that qualifies. DO you have a copy of "On Bullshit"?

I think you guys just want to SPREAD BULLSHIT. And even though we can now see the awful effects of SPREADING BULLSHIT - trust is disappearing at a rapid rate - you won't stop, because SPREADING BULLSHIT is called "sharing the Gospel" which makes it like farting silently in an elevator to others, which believers enjoy.

Accepting the non-existence of God is just accepting reality as it is - not bullshit added. If you "love life" that should be enough.; 3/13/21, 5:08 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: gadfly said...

"The group identified as “Die-hard Trumpers” — supporters . . . who don’t believe in QAnon conspiracy theories — comprised 27 percent of the 1284 Republican voters surveyed."

That would be my group: I like him more than the party, and will only vote for the party if he's fronting it. Otherwise, I won't vote because I'm not voting Democrat. Trump did everything he could for blacks - without giving in to nonsense - and that impressed me a lot. If it's possible to find a Republican with such a far-reaching historical outlook, fine, but I ain't seen one yet in the "party that freed the slaves".

It's just the stupid party without him.; 3/13/21, 5:17 AM
iowan2 said...: , but as I got older I realized the reality of our existence is well beyond my ken

This is a great undeniable truth.; 3/13/21, 6:14 AM
Fernandinande said...: At my death, I may learn something deeper, and I hope I do, but I will be able share it with none of the living.

IOW, you are superstitious, and are yourself quite arrogant in claiming that it's arrogant for other people to not share your personal superstitions.

Atheism sounds a little arrogant to me, to be confident that man is the be all and wns[end?] all, when weve been around for a short time

It's pretty common for religious nuts make similar claims about human Specialness, but I've never heard an atheist make such a claim; do you have a reference, or did you just make it up?; 3/13/21, 6:52 AM
Fernandinande said...: Google invented a spiffy reason for falsifying search results: "algorithmic unfairness".

Their example is that it's unfair to represent CEOs as mostly men even if it's true and accurate, because the true statements reinforce "stereotypes".; 3/13/21, 7:08 AM
CStanley said...: "Well, who created God" argument. At the time, it resonated with me, or at least in the way I understood Sagan's argument at the time.
This argument has the opposite effect on me. I can’t conceive of anything material existing backward into infinity, but God makes sense as “He who is and always was”.

In essence and in the abstract it’s almost as though God is all the energy of the universe and His act of creation was a conversion of some of His energy into matter. That made sense to my scientifically oriented brain when I first started questioning things in my teens. I don’t think about it that way much now and I’ve come to follow the orthodox Catholic teachings about the God of Abraham and Moses and the God made flesh of Jesus. But when the doubts return I know I can never be atheist because of the effect that Sagan’s argument had on me.; 3/13/21, 8:06 AM
CStanley said...: Atheism sounds a little arrogant to me, to be confident that man is the be all and wns[end?] all, when weve been around for a short time

It's pretty common for religious nuts make similar claims about human Specialness, but I've never heard an atheist make such a claim; do you have a reference, or did you just make it up?

I don’t think all atheists are arrogant but belief in God tends to put a backstop to one’s belief in the power of man. And I do think that the effect in society of religious decline is societal hubris. That’s evident in everything from socialistic utopian idealism (which lacks an understanding of man’s weaknesses) to transgenderism (in which people believe that we can create ourselves in a way that denies natural laws.); 3/13/21, 8:13 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: “I get the impression NY’s nursing home deaths are probably overwhelmingly white. The harassment case story would not be as prominent in the headlines had there been more people of color in nursing homes. So I guess you could say, Cuomo might survive do to systemic racism at nursing homes.
Oh shit.”

I had assumed the opposite, since Medicaid reimbursements and other state financing obligations seemed to have been involved. Te idea seems to be that it cost the states less if the COVID-19 patients were sent back to a nursing home, than kept in a hospital facility. Who might that affect? The answer, I think, are people for whom the state governments are paying for at least part of their healthcare. That suggests socioeconomic discrimination, which would seem to suggest that minorities would be hit worse than others.; 3/13/21, 9:17 AM
Ken B said...: Churchy
Yes PMJ is fun. Check out the 7 foot clown too. I forget his name, someone's Pity Party.; 3/13/21, 9:26 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: Why the focus on violence by the Dems? Why their fear of Q and his Anons? Etc.

Talked yesterday to some buddies that are deep into the conspiracy theories. There very much appears to be a fissure down the middle of the federal government, that has been evident since Trump was elected President, and so much of the federal bureaucracy joined the Resistance. Trump never had their loyalty, and many of them Resisted until they could replace him with someone they could help control - Biden. Along with Blacks, Hispanics, school teachers, abortionists, AntiFA, George Soros, etc, one of the interest groups that must be catered to by the Dems are the civilian federal bureaucrats. They tell Biden and his handlers what to do, and he does it - the opposite of what is supposed to happen, with the President give the orders and the federal government employees following them.

For the most part, the other part of the federal government, the military, wasn’t a problem for Trump. They backed him. And many believe that Q himself (or theirselves) was from military intelligence. The FBI taking out Gen Flynn was civilian intelligence taking out a prince on the military intelligence side, and Q was their revenge. Much of what Q did for four years was attack the civilian side of the intelligence community by disclosing their inconvenient secrets.

The government employees who aren’t loyal to the Democrats and the Biden Administration are the military. Not the flag ranks so much as everyone else. They have recently been making a big thing that their loyalty oath is to the Constitution, and an argument can be, and is being, made that the election of Biden through rampant and very blatant election law violations and ballot stuffing was illegitimate. It doesn’t help that Biden, etc, are reversing course, and appear to be reengaging in the Middle East militarily - which means, to the military, squandering lives and much of their budget for little advantage. Trump had managed to mostly disengage their, and the Biden Administration is moving as fast as they can to reengage - and really cannot come up with a plausible excuse of why we should do it. Meanwhile, war games against Chinese surrogates has us losing faster and faster. We should be spending the DOD budget of meeting the Chinese threat, and not doing whatever muddled thing they think is more important in the Middle East. Of course, everyone knows that those very same Red Chinese massively bribed Biden and his family....

The bottom line here is that the Biden Administration does not appear to have the loyalty of the military, at least to the extent Trump had it. Marine guards are missing from where they have traditionally been stationed around the President. The billion dollar AF-1s don’t appear to be flying Biden, in his rare trips out of DC. Etc. It appears that the Biden WH does not fully trust the military. Maybe they have reason for this distrust.; 3/13/21, 9:57 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: “We should be spending the DOD budget of meeting the Chinese threat, and not doing whatever muddled thing they think is more important in the Middle East. Of course, everyone knows that those very same Red Chinese massively bribed Biden and his family....”

There is more and more talk about Biden really being the Manchurian Candidate. He and his family (notably his son Hunter and Brother Jim) took many millions from the Red Chinese. His son has spent the last decade or so high on cocaine, and screwing inappropriate women, including his newly widowed sister in law and the one having his illegitimate kid. There is a lot of dirt there for blackmail, and the Chinese are masters at that. Joe, Hunter, and Jim Biden are as crooked as they go, and no one should be surprised if the Chinese exploit this.

What does the military do, if their job is to protect the country, and the fraudulently elected, and therefore arguably illegitimate, President very much appears to be trying to weaken the military vis a vis our greatest geopolitical enemy, which in turn appears to have purchased the loyalty of said fraudulently elected, and therefore arguably illegitimate, President? Isn’t it their moral and ethical duty to resist him any way that they can?

Finally, it is possible that those planned attacks that the Dems are using to keep the fence around the Capital, etc, may actually have been planned attacks, but by the military and not civilian Trump supporters. The story is that there really was a coup planned for March 4, but they backed off, when the Biden people threatened to use dirty bombs (on American civilians). I think that that is far fetched. But maybe not...; 3/13/21, 10:17 AM
wildswan said...: Beautiful picture; 3/13/21, 10:38 AM
Yancey Ward said...: Churchy,

Thanks for the link to Postmodern Jukebox! Loved those!; 3/13/21, 10:46 AM
Rusty said...: Blogger Mark said...
"Crack's OK. I may not understand what the hell he is talking about, but I have no problems with him expressing whatever it is. I'm actually glad to see him back."
Yeah. Sort of like Guild, but easier to understand. Even though he drifts now and then we agree more than we disagree. He's an honest broker which is more than you can say about the proggs who visit here.

Other than the usual religious indoctrination we all grew up with I found Boethius enlightening.; 3/13/21, 11:54 AM
n.n said...: Atheism sounds a little arrogant to me

Atheism is a faith. So, atheists replace God or gods with mortal gods and goddesses ("philosophers"). Its significance depends on the religion and ideology it is wedded to. Many are ethical, religion's relativistic sibling, and history is littered with their sacrifices for personal and social progress.; 3/13/21, 1:09 PM
Churchy LaFemme: said...: Blogger Yancey Ward said...
Churchy,
Thanks for the link to Postmodern Jukebox! Loved those!

Great! I was afraid that post got lost in all the other stuff.; 3/13/21, 1:15 PM