"... to quickly deploy to U.S. border stations and tent sites where holding cells are crammed beyond capacity.... The number of these teens and children held in detention cells along the border surpassed 3,500 this week, a record, and the minors have been arriving at a rate that far exceeds the government’s ability to place them in shelters run by the Department of Health and Human Services or release them to vetted sponsors, often relatives living in the United States. With shelters run by HHS short on bed space, thousands of minors are stuck in rudimentary Border Patrol stations awaiting transfer.... More than 130 minors have been waiting 10 days in the custody of CBP, whose steel-and-concrete detention cells are designed as short-term holding cells for adults...."
From "ICE asks officers to deploy to border ‘as soon as this weekend’ to cope with surge" (WaPo).
That headline must have been different before, because the highest-rated comments are: "WaPo, please re-write this headline. ICE is asking internally for assistance. ICE is not calling for Trumpian militant volunteers to rush to the border to rough up immigrants." AND: "ICE should be careful when calling for 'volunteers.' They'll get a bunch of armed white guys with fat guts, no training and an itch to shoot someone who can't shoot back."
Yes, now I see the cached headline. It was: "ICE asks for volunteers to deploy to border ‘as soon as this weekend’ to cope with surge."
The word "cages" does not appear in this new article, but a couple days ago WaPo published "At border, record number of migrant youths wait in adult detention cells for longer than legally allowed":
The Border Patrol warehouse with chain-link holding pens that were decried as “cages” in 2018 has been closed for renovations, but the conditions in the stations are not much better. Young people are waiting in cramped, austere holding cells with concrete floors and benches. Lights remain on 24 hours a day, agents say, and there are few places to play.
Are they in cages now? Were they in cages then? I don't know, but in 2018 the word "cages" was used and the same facilities are currently closed for renovations — perhaps to make them less cage-y — so there's no shift from using the word for exactly the same place. Right now, the "young people" are stuck in "cramped, austere holding cells," but would these be "cages" if only Trump were President or is there some cell/cage distinction that has to do with chain-link fencing?
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The newspaper is just doing its job, selling clicks of those who will willingly visit.
Wow and I thought the NYTimes comment section was unhinged, are these people actually real or is the whole thing performance art?
Paraphrasing:
"WaPo, please re-write this headline. ICE is asking internally for assistance, which is OK and so is putting kids in cages (which we really never gave a damn about). ICE is not calling for outside assitance and Trump isn't sending mean tweets anymore! What a breath of fresh air!"
Meanwhile, Antifa continues to riot in Portland.
Wouldn't it be easier to just annex Mexico?
What rhhardin said.
Sending them back is an option that, I guess, has not occurred to anyone
In other news, the Biden administration has decided the challenge of dealing with so many migrant families on the border warrants their being sent to his home in Delaware. A special training regimen will be instituted to ensure the migrants don't bite and special medication will be allocated to calm their anxiety.
The administration - when asked to gauge the efficacy of this plan - indicated that it worked for other troublesome mammals before, and to stop asking so many damn questions.
@Joe Smith
"Wouldn't it be easier to just annex Mexico?"
ABSOLUTELY NOT. We have too many failed united states as it is, we don't need another Illinois.
Hopefully when President Harris is installed, she can handle the crisis that President Biden created.
"ICE should be careful when calling for 'volunteers.' They'll get a bunch of armed white guys with fat guts, no training and an itch to shoot someone who can't shoot back."
Because we all know the wokies who read (and believe) the WaPo certainly aren't going to volunteer in droves!
There's a little Althouse pushback against feelings towards structure here.
It's written for the feelings crowd.
This constant attribution of racist, murderous intentions to white men has become very frightening.
In NY State and NYC, the law is slowly being manipulated to eliminate criminal penalties of any kind for black on white violence.
I really do fear we’re headed for the fate of South Africa, where torture and murder of whites to expropriate their property and give it to blacks is a real possibility.
And to think, this is the plan!
ICE should be careful when calling for 'volunteers.' They'll get a bunch of armed white guys with fat guts, no training and an itch to shoot someone who can't shoot back
It's amazing how almost everything is racist these days and must be condemned, but anti-white rhetoric like this is just fine and dandy.
Is this part of that return to "normal" that was hoped for?
"Darth" Vader said...
are these people actually real or is the whole thing performance art?
not just performance art.... PROFESSIONAL performance art
once you realize that most left wing comments are PAID for their comments...
it All becomes much clearer
You didn't think the boneheads here Really Believed the swill they're pouring out, did you?
It's amazing how almost everything is racist these days and must be condemned, but anti-white rhetoric like this is just fine and dandy.
It's RACIST to NOT use anti-white rhetoric!
The definition of Racism is thinking that whites are humans
ONLY POC are worthy... Only POC that vote democrat, that is
"ABSOLUTELY NOT. We have too many failed united states as it is, we don't need another Illinois."
But right now we are the ones who are being annexed.
Maybe we should go on offense and set some rules instead of dying a slow, demographic death; like England and France.
Just spitballin'.
Related: Bay Area NASA facilities eyed as possible shelter for migrant children (The Mercury News)
Democrat policies
Military deployed in DC.
Southern Border being overrun by illegal aliens. A place we could deploy the military. Protecting our southern border.
"Related: Bay Area NASA facilities eyed as possible shelter for migrant children (The Mercury News)"
Trump fucked up when he didn't put detention centers in Martha's Vineyard, Bel Air, Pacific Heights, etc.
Hit the duplicitous cocksuckers literally where they live.
Stealing the election for Joe Biden will have many dire consequences.
This invasion across our border is just one such consequence.
holding cells are crammed beyond capacity
OMG has anyone told Inga? She will be heartbroken!
@Joe Smith
Mexico gets fixed when we find a way to reanimate Cortez. There's a lot of good people and good families there and they're tremendously hospitable, but despite that Mexico's problem is Mexicans. Brazilians say the same thing ("Brazil would be the best country on earth if it weren't for the people").
Simon Bolivar once commented that American Democracy didn't work in Latin America because American Democracy required "a nation filled with saints instead of citizens". Deep down, subconsciously, most Latin Americans would tell you that democracy - if it works at all - just can't work at home. Most of them know. From long experience.
If you incentivize certain behavior, you get more of it. Even Dementia Joe must understand that simple concept. Therefore, you can only assume that this is the desired outcome.
Relax folks, won’t be long and the cute 14-15 year old girls will be secure in the employ of Pimp Daddy and the Lincoln Project will put their male counterparts to work “moving the lawn”. Sssss awl guud
Trump was "putting children into cages."
Biden is "struggling to care for migrant families."
Maybe they should just build a wall.
Bay Area NASA facilities eyed as possible shelter for migrant children
Thank our lucky stars that the flood of illegals are mostly rocket scientists. If they were poor, unskilled and undereducated it would be a disaster.
I don't subscribe to WaPo, and therefore haven't read the article, but does it ask or address why these families and unaccompanied children are only now surging across the border?
I really do fear we’re headed for the fate of South Africa, where torture and murder of whites to expropriate their property and give it to blacks is a real possibility.
The militant blacks, like the CNN crowd, forget that blacks are just 13% of the population. Opening the border just adds millions of uneducated workers that don't like blacks. Pretty soon, whites will be spectators watching the games. Mexicans and the Central Americans (My cleaning lady was Salvadoran) work hard.
In South Africa, blacks are the MAJORITY, even if the Boers were there first.
>>CE should be careful when calling for 'volunteers.' They'll get a bunch of armed white guys with fat guts, no training and an itch to shoot someone who can't shoot back
Once again, a NYT reader asserts their actual moral superiority over an imaginary Trump voter.
"The number of these teens and children held in detention cells along the border surpassed 3,500 this week, a record, and the minors have been arriving at a rate that far exceeds the government’s ability to place them in shelters run by the Department of Health and Human Services or release them to vetted sponsors, often relatives living in the United States."
Unexpectedly!
"WaPo, please re-write this headline and call for Biden's impeachment already"
OUT: "Never let a crisis go to waste."
IN: "Never pass up an opportunity to create a crisis or chaos."
"would these be "cages" if only Trump were President"
Funny!
Anyway, Althouse, thanks for abstaining.
Joe Biden has one super power: He can fck-up anything.
Stone walls do not a prison make, nor iron bars a cage.
Notice how we never get any breakdown by age range or gender on these "children" showing up at the border? Funny how that is.
My guess is that the reason for the "cages" is so that the obvious MS-13 gang members don't terrorize & rape the other "inmates".
Imagine a waiting room with a black lady and her kid, and a white lady and her kid.
Statistically, the black lady and her kid are much more likely to:
1. Not have a father around
2. The kid will have more behavioral issues and lots of incentives to not 'act white' and develop the talents he has
3. The kid will need strong role models and good discipline to develop his potential
4. Fewer resources
Statistically, the white lady and her kid are much more likely to:
1. Have an active father in marriage
2. the kid will have more incentive to self-control, and delayed gratification and access to ideas/opportunites
3. The kid will have strong role models and be disciplined to develop his potential
What's uniting these folks within potential awkward silences and small talk?
1. The waiting room in a relatively free (perhaps getting much less free) set of arrangements in a political economy of competition and cooperation
2. Religious belief?
3. Any potential interests/shared experiences/similarities they might have as people (just being mothers, for example). Hobbies, Little League, boy scouts (banned), sports heroes, books to read etc.
4. Really shitty second and third rate media people following shitty totalizing ideologies which make worse authority after all the anti-authority sentiment is depleted. An ideology upheld by a lot of Angry, non-married, blue and pink haired lesbians and feminist ideologues. The more diffuse and distributed, mild resentment and solidarity of 'girl power' feminism which yields more freedoms for these women at steep costs.
I figured the headline meant that ICE was asking for Hollywood celebrities and gentry liberals to show up w/ their 3-row SUVs to take the migrant children back to their sprawling estates to feed and keep them safe. What Would Gaia Do?
Comments blaming Trump.
The WaPo commenters are a bunch of petty bigots.
Sad.
Surely we can provide a few wide-body jets to relocate a thousand " refugees " each day to choice locations including San Francisco and Pittsburgh and Seattle and Dover and Boston and especially Elba. We need not fret about accommodations, just offload on the tarmac where the residents can assure that these "refugees" are not mistreated by the bad immigration officials located at our southern border. By offloading on the tarmac the jets are freed, thus expediting another trip for this merciful airlift.
"holding cells are crammed beyond capacity"
Mike (MJB Wolf): "MG has anyone told Inga? She will be heartbroken!"
Those are Spark of Divinity cages. Inga can explain it.
YH: "Notice how we never get any breakdown by age range or gender on these "children" showing up at the border? Funny how that is.
My guess is that the reason for the "cages" is so that the obvious MS-13 gang members don't terrorize & rape the other "inmates"."
Those are Spark of Divinity rapes. Inga can explain it.
"Opening the border just adds millions of uneducated workers that don't like blacks."
Low-skilled black unemployment will continue to rise in the U.S.
The Dems will do all they can to counter it by hiring as many blacks in city, county, state, and fed low-level jobs like they always have, but it will be turbo-charged now.
And what a horrible, predictable clusterfuck this all is.
We're beyond even mildly good ideas and public sentiment driving public policy when it comes to the border.
Never underestimate Joe's ability to f*ck things up.
You break it, you bought it. This "crisis" is all Joe's now.
DACA showed the way.
These kids, now minors, are going to be scattered around the country, nominally into the homes and families of some remote relatives, and Biden's administration will bestow upon them some "pathway to citizenship" status.
At some point in the [probably not so distant] future, claiming reliance on this figment of a non-legislated "gray area" legal status, they will serve as the foothold, the anchor, for chaining the "legal" migration into the U.S. of their parents, grandparents, siblings, cousins, et al.
Presto: instant Dem constituency.
Another instance of working the system to achieve what cannot be accomplished legislatively.
This. This is how you get a polarized population.
From emigration reform to [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform and collateral damage. One step forward, two steps backward.
Can they abort the baby, cannibalize her profitable parts, sequester her carbon pollutants, and have her, too?
"Once again, a NYT reader"
WaPo, not NYT. You can usually tell, because WaPo commenters are generally angrier and stupider than NYT commenters (not that that's saying much).
It's class, not race
Yes, with exceptions, it always was. That said, from colored people (i.e. low-information attribute) to people of color, people of white, etc. (i.e. color blocs, identity defined by skin color, racism). One step forward, two steps backward.
Thanks O'Biden voters! You got your wish of Open Borders!
Meanwhile, Antifa continues to riot in Portland.
Last night I aw on the news here in Minneapolis that that George Fentanyl Square has "gatekeepers" who decide who gets to enter the area. I watched them actually threaten a white guy who sought entry.
Thanks, Mayor Frey.
Lotsa elite liberal families with no father at home.
And the Great Leap... Great Society, which was especially destructive for men, and women who shared a life, family with them. Men and women are equal in rights and complementary in Nature/nature.
I really do fear we’re headed for the fate of South Africa, where torture and murder of whites to expropriate their property and give it to blacks is a real possibility.
Don't worry, there is strength in numbers.
Thanks O'Biden voters! You got your wish of Open Borders!
[Catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform, labor and environmental arbitrage, democratic gerrymandering, diversity dogma, uncivil rights, transhumane rights, Planned Parent/hood, and collateral damage at both ends of the bridge and throughout. Progressive Church/Synagogue/Office/Clinic etc, Pro-Choice religion, and liberal ideology. Wicked.
When herd of deer infests a farmer's cornfield, he simply and calmly shoots all of the deer.
Colectivos like venezuela or the technical riders of somalia
I really do fear we’re headed for the fate of South Africa, where torture and murder of whites to expropriate their property and give it to blacks is a real possibility.
And blacks, too. Recall post-Apartheid Progressive South Africa lynch mobs targeted blacks. Perhaps a latent cycle of retributive change a la Hutu/Tutsi, or Hamas vs Fatah and "palestinian" people were in/convenient truths, etc.
While visiting CHOP city or 'CHAZZERCISE' as I like to call it, I was talking at the perimeter on my iPhone until a couple of young men from the John Brown Gun Club approached.
They asked if I wanted to enter, or if I had any questions, with their firearms in full view.
Thanks, fellas!
Old and busted: "Kids in Cages"
New hotness: "Youths in Adult Detention Cells"
I'm laughing out loud at Biden's obvious failure here. The pushback can't come soon enough.
A few drops of Mayor Frey's flop sweat contain enough T to power a committee meeting.
Don't let that stuff loose
Mexicans and the Central Americans (My cleaning lady was Salvadoran) work hard.
The next best thing will be when overpriced MD's and nurses are replaced by harder working imports as well. Just loosen the guild rules a bit (board certs). Same for the lawyers: lower the bars so that the smug professional classes begin to experience what normal Americans are getting hit with.
That headline must have been different before
That implies that those comment up voters either have poor reading comprehension or have only read the headline rather than the contents of the article at all, and then jumped right to the comments. The gleeful response to the "armed white guys with fat guts" comments reflects a certain narrow minded worldview possessed by your typical WaPo online reader.
In fairness though, I've delivered my share of "hot takes" after only seeing a headline a few times over the years.
The next best thing will be when overpriced MD's and nurses are replaced by harder working imports as well.
Already happening and, of course, the AAMC is requiring "equity" now for medical schools. Quota for entry and graduation. Most of my black medical students were NOT American born.
They are really cereal
https://mobile.twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1370417110011219970
Neither the WaPo article nor the comments are deserving of mention but regarding these poor 'children' [HAH!], most of whom are male teens, we the American people did not invite them here. Take them back home and let them go through proper channels. Those of us who live on the border, regardless of ethnicity, are fed up with these dangerous policies. We are the ones who have to live with the consequences. Whoever is pulling the Biden strings these days needs to be stopped. Now.
I swear, if you whites would just learn to clean up your own messes, we weouldn't have needed slaves or illegal immigrants.
Well, I can see why Althouse bans you.
If you whites would just learn to clean up your own messes, we weouldn't have needed slaves or illegal immigrants.
True statement. Blacks aren't hiring Mexicans to cut OUR lawns.
Whoever is pulling the Biden strings these days needs to be stopped. Now.
Are you kidding me? The O'Biden Ministration(s) is just beginning. There will be no stopping them. It's baked in.
t's amazing how almost everything is racist these days and must be condemned, but anti-white rhetoric like this is just fine and dandy.
It's only anti-white rhetoric to those who ignore what whites have done. To others, it's just talking about what whites have done - which whites don't like.
They also don't like PAYING for what they've done - it's a thing with them. Consequences, and such.
Michael K said...Already happening and, of course, the AAMC is requiring "equity" now for medical schools. Quota for entry and graduation. Most of my black medical students were NOT American born.
Faster please. The sooner the Left can gut the the professional classes -- including cocooned university professors -- the more they might actually get "woke" in a useful sense.
The Crack Emcee said...True statement. Blacks aren't hiring Mexicans to cut OUR lawns.
I agree with you, Crack.
Thanks, chicklit.
Nothing pisses off a mob of white conservative free speech advocates more than a lone black person refuting what they say.
Blacks aren't hiring Mexicans to cut OUR lawns.
Yeah, for the most part probably not. But I can't imagine Kanye, Oprah, or Kevin Hart riding around on a lawn tractor. (well... maybe Kevin Hart might. He seems like the sort who wouldn't shy away from a little yard work)
plenty of time to plan?
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Event-201-Pandemic-Exercise-Segment-4-Communications-Discussion-and-Epilogue-Video-bill-gates.pdf
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/before-covid-gates-planned-social-media-censorship-of-vaccine-safety-advocates-with-pharma-cdc-media-china-and-cia
Somebody put out the word... La frontera no esta cerrada
Stop calling them illegal aliens.
Call them cheap labor for rich people
Getting others to do your work - while calling them "lazy" constantly - that's being white.
ST called me "lazy" yesterday (because he's so not racist and statements like that always come out of the mouths of non-racists) when I put out more music, this week, than he's ever put out in his life - and better than anything he's ever done, too.
It's amazing, the racial blinders white people wear. Where do you buy them?
Schumer is blaming Trump for the Border disaster. Even out of office is there nothing Trump can't do.
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
If you whites would just learn to clean up your own messes, we weouldn't have needed slaves or illegal immigrants.
True statement. Blacks aren't hiring Mexicans to cut OUR lawns.
3/12/21, 1:41 PM
Really, so you believe that wealthy Blacks mow their own lawns and do their own house work - LOL! What World do you live in?
In my area (and I mean large area), it's almost impossible to find anyone to cut your lawn who is NOT Mexican
I have a guy who cuts mine. I used to do it myself for years, but what's the point?
More time for me to do other things and money in his pocket. Win-win.
Or am I exploiting him? Not at his rates : )
LYNNDH said...Schumer is blaming Trump for the Border disaster. Even out of office is there nothing Trump can't do.
Well, in a sense Trump created the pent-up urge to suddenly migrate here again by stopping it for four years. We are now going to see four years worth of pent-up migration now that Biden has green lighted it and rolled out the welcome mats.
I have a guy who cuts mine. I used to do it myself for years, but what's the point?
I always did it for the exercise and fresh air.
Stop calling them illegal aliens.
Call them cheap labor for rich people
Labor arbitrage, yes. Also, redistributive change, academic revenue, Obamacares, social justice adventurism, democratic gerrymandering, and filling in the missing... aborted links following several hundred thousand excess deaths and collateral damage annually at Planned Parent/hood offices. Forward!
Rhhardin: the vast majority of allegedly conservative Congress critters and Senate puppies sitting on their hands over the illegal immigration issue are males. Even more so in the states. Libertarian dolts in and out of office who imagine open borders equal freedom are almost exclusively male. And elected Democrats who support it, despite the optics of loud and tatty anorectic nutcases like AOC, are predominantly male.
I know a lot more women than men in conservative politics in Georgia and Florida who are incensed over illegal immigration. However, I also know a lot of men who are incensed over it. We don’t sit around segregating ourselves by gender in order to do something about it.
Waste of time. Emotional, not rational.
"Call them cheap labor for rich people"
Isn't it what they signed up for?
Or they could be home in Mexico.
I have my thoughts on what to do with our friends to the south, but neither liberals or conservatives generally agree with me...
hstad said...
"What World do you live in?"
The one with actual black people i9n it.
Schumer is blaming Trump for the Border disaster. Even out of office is there nothing Trump can't do.
I'm laughing at all the corpulent white males who buy their way out of lawn work and the equally frustrated white females who hire a "Maria" to clean their toilets and kitchens. May theirs be a future with outsourced grandchildren as well.
The Crack Emcee said...
hstad said...
"What World do you live in?"
The one with actual black people in it. You guys live in a world of your own minds - where you GUESS how others live - and then you INSIST that's the truth.
And actual blacks can't even change your minds - THAT'S DEEP.
I know a lot more women than men in conservative politics in Georgia and Florida who are incensed over illegal immigration.
Emotion is always the trump card for women. Guys are cooly structural. "It won't work. It does the opposite."
Democracy Dies of Democrat Dementia
Tina Tree wrote I know a lot more women than men in conservative politics in Georgia and Florida who are incensed over illegal immigration.
Not my experience--not my estranged wife's opinion nor my closest female relatives' opinions. They are all bleeding heart libs.
Where does a man find conservative women anyways?
Blacks aren't hiring Mexicans to cut OUR lawns.
Most Whites are not hiring Mexicans to cut their lawns, either. People with money and too little time are hiring Mexicans to cut their lawns.
I have been cutting my own lawn and painting my own (interior) houses for my entire adult life. I could afford to hire people, but I enjoy the manual labor. YMMV.
I cut my own lawn. I don't need other people to do work I am capable of doing and enjoy doing. Hard work is it's own reward.
"Cramped Austere Holding Cells". A pleasure palace when the Obama administration built and used them. They were so palatial that the press even took pictures of them and the young people in them. Not a day at the beach for the occupants of course, but the press kept mum. Couldn't criticize the New "Light" [emphasize on "Light"] Worker.
Then they used those photos taken during the Obama administration in 2014 as proof that Trump---the evil monster--was holding "kids in cages" in 2017.
Fast forward to 2021--those same Obama "pleasure palaces" that were cages in the Trump era, are now being used in the Biden regime---with occupancy rates at 150% of the peak occupancy during the Trump years. Now they are not cages--heck they are not even mentioned. Jen Psaki solemnly assures that there is no "crisis' on the border. And what the heck she may be right. It's not a crisis--it's a catastrophe.
@Chickelit
"Where does a man find conservative women anyways?"
Try Latin and South America. Worked for me. Now if that's not irony, I don't know what is!
Biden Potemkin Power regime need volunteers to hand out voter registration forms. They are already filled out with party affiliation, fake address, and pre-vote permission for auto-vote.
Otherwise - Oppression and voter suppression... you racists.!
"I'm laughing at all the corpulent white males who buy their way out of lawn work and the equally frustrated white females who hire a "Maria" to clean their toilets and kitchens. May theirs be a future with outsourced grandchildren as well."
Now you're being silly.
What? You don't grow and thresh your own wheat to bake your own bread?
You don't smelt steel to make into sheets, and then form them to build a car?
Lazy bastard : )
It's called commerce. Get over yourself.
Oh, the black guys I know with more money than me have never cut a single blade of their own grass. They're not stupid. They have better things to do.
I cut my own grass, with a scythe in fact.
Lucid-Ideas said...
@Chickelit
"Where does a man find conservative women anyways?"
I married a woman from a small French village on the German border, who - unbeknownst to me - had magic powers. She came here, and met up with all the other lying power-hungry bitches with magic powers, and that was THAT. She ran off with a homeopath they all liked a lot better than me with my facts, and logic, and reason, and evidence.
Kind of like being here.
"Most folks I know who hire out their yard work or their house cleaning or other little labors like these do so because they work long hours and usually are rewarded for their brains and hard work, they want to come home, take a break and relax, not cut grass or wash windows....and that makes them lazy?"
Exactly...this whole 'fat white people don't want to work thing' is pure economic envy.
You guys like magic negroes waaaay better than the real thing.
You want PROOF; that America is EVIL, and The Worst Place on Earth?
Just Open your eyes!
What other country; has to spend BILLIONS of dollars, building fences to Keep its people in?
What other country; has Tens of Millions of illegal emigrants; desperate to leave?
What other country; has a Positive Birth rate, but a LARGE decrease in population?
FACE IT! if America is "So Good" WHY are people (Literally!) DYING to leave?
what's that? wait a minute, let me check my math
"She came here, and met up with all the other lying power-hungry bitches with magic powers, and that was THAT."
Well, that never happened to anyone else before.
Maybe he was richer than you and didn't spend all day being so goddamn grumpy : )
Joe Smith said...
"because they work long hours and usually are rewarded for their brains and hard work"
In an environment where they had a distinct advantage over everyone who isn't white for centuries. So PROUD.
Whites could live where they wanted, get loans, maybe get help from the families they deprived blacks for centuries by splitting us up and making us create fictional families to survive - which you guys call the real thing (wink, wink).
All so fair - and something to brag about.
Wait..weren't we supposed to abolish ICE?
I suggest sending some of these folks to lodge with Lincoln Project staffers and suck-ups in MI like C__!.
Keep the young ones away from Weaver, though.
Can I get one of those Biden Let us In T's via Althouse Bezos portal?
Joe Smith said...
"This whole 'fat white people don't want to work thing' is pure economic envy."
You guys like hypnotizing yourselves with your own bullshit.
A robot that isn't too bright and has a chip on his shoulder is comedy gold in any movie.
@Joe Smith: You talk out of both sides of your mouth if you haven't noticed. You make snide comments about being overrun and then you say that your own participation in hiring the cheapest labor is justified. It's almost like you want to be protected from your own bad choices--Man up!
Joe Smith said...
"This whole 'fat white people don't want to work thing' is pure economic envy."
Blacks want to be "like Mike" - not Bill Gates - so fat rich white guys aren't even on our radar.
Hey Crack, at 2:32 you attributed a quote to me.
It was written by Will at 2:22pm. It follows:
Most folks I know who hire out their yard work or their house cleaning or other little labors like these do so because they work long hours and usually are rewarded for their brains and hard work, they want to come home, take a break and relax, not cut grass or wash windows....and that makes them lazy?
Get your attributions straight...
Do you know any black people with lawns, crack.
Not being snarky. I've always had the impression you lived in cities. Not many lawns in cities.
So who does cut black peoples lawns? Again, not being snarky, serious question. I assume that like most white folks and Puerto Ricans, some cut their own and some job it out.
Is the percentage of jobbing out different for blacks? Comparing similar income levels, if course.
For those that do, it seems hard to avoid hiring central Americans.
In the 50s & 60s there were always neighborhood kids happy to earn a few bucks doing yard work. City, state and federal govt put an end to that in the 70s.
John Henry
Crack Emcee,
Blacks aren't hiring Mexicans to cut OUR lawns.
But Black teenagers are quite happy to bully and cuss out the hapless Mexicans who make their fast food. Seriously, I saw this in SF's Mission District whenever I went into Burger King. Not b/c I couldn't really eat that food very often, but b/c every time I did go in, there's be a Black teen with a black puff jacket or a hoodie and an "I own this joint" strut, sneering at the poor, hapless Mexican kid who was trying to get his meal to him as fast as possible. I'd slink away to a table and not say anything, and finally that got to be too much for me.
That, btw, was an official "food desert." Despite the fact that, just in walking to BK, you had to pass a pho place, a large Asian market, a teriyaki-and-burgers joint, a Chinese fast-food joint, an Indian buffet joint, and a frickin' Safeway before you ever got to BK. If you'd walked a block the other direction after leaving 16th Mission BART, within a block you had a huge Hispanic market. A block or two in other directions, and there was all sorts of other stuff, including one of the better burger-and-fries joints in the city. But nooooo, no food here, no siree.
John henry said...
"Not many lawns in cities."
Do you know how far your IQ had to drop to say that?
"@Joe Smith: You talk out of both sides of your mouth if you haven't noticed. You make snide comments about being overrun and then you say that your own participation in hiring the cheapest labor is justified. It's almost like you want to be protected from your own bad choices--Man up!
Dear moron...he's a LEGAL Mexican and he is not cheap.
He owns a fucking horse for Christ sake!
: )
And I don't think you will find any quote of mine with the word 'overrun.'
chickelet: I have binders of conservative women.
Kidding. Not really. Try church. NOT New Age — I agree with Crack there and am still waiting to hear his story about NXIVM in the Nineties.
FWIW, I haven't got a lawn worth cutting, anyway. Better off than y'all? Worse?
"I married a woman from a small French village on the German border, who - unbeknownst to me - had magic powers. She came here, and met up with all the other lying power-hungry bitches with magic powers, and that was THAT. She ran off with a homeopath they all liked a lot better than me with my facts, and logic, and reason, and evidence."
I'm sorry this happened to you Crack. Lorrainers and Alsace women are known to be unstable, just like their historical border. Long time ago I hooked up with a chick from Metz name Marine...total batshit. If it makes you feel better I can probably guarantee she's A) not happy and B) never was. Think of it as dodging a bullet.
Michelle Dulak Thomson said...
"Black teenagers are quite happy to bully and cuss out the hapless Mexicans who make their fast food."
Gee, I grew up with three white guys who used to do that.
They're cops now.
See the difference?
If there is need for an "urgent" e-mail to drag volunteers half way across the country, is that not evidence of a crisis?
Crack
They also don't like PAYING for what they've done - it's a thing with them. Consequences, and such.
I'd be happy to see reparations paid - by families who were slave owners and families that benefited from slavery - to the descendants of slaves. how you gonna make that happen?
Some of us "whites" have lineage that never touched slavery. Insisting people who had nothing to do with a crime of the PAST - that they have to pay anyway is kind of a hard sell.
Lucid-Ideas said...
I know Metz. Been there a few times.
I wish we had accurate information, here, about France and not just this accordion and pastries bullshit.
That language barrier makes them seem sane when they're not. I almost understand the Germans attacking them now.
Not that they can't get a little crazy,...
After killing Brian Sicknick in the basement of the Capitol, Joe Biden's dog has been redeployed to the border to find the best smelling hair for Joe Biden to sniff.
John Henry: For those that do, it seems hard to avoid hiring central Americans.
Then you need to stop complaining about illegal immigration too in case you have.
BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...
Crack
"Some of us "whites" have lineage that never touched slavery."
That's a lie - you can't live in America and have a lineage that never touched slavery. It touched EVERYTHING.
You guys can only say stupid shit like that because whites have invested NOTHING in understanding what they've done.
I knew I had arrived in life when I could pay others to do my lawn-care. Since that glorious day I have employed guys to do the work--sometimes W/white, sometimes not. As soon as it warms up a little I'll have a young B/black guy and his F/fat W/white girlfriend back here every couple of weeks.
Most lawn-care around here is done by Hispanic labor; our B/black neighbors seem as willing to hire them as anyone else.
Narr
I don't want to be like someone else (OK, Meade a little, maybe), I just want to be
The clothes they wore - cotton.
The chairs they sat on - padded with cotton.
Cotton, the fabric of our lives,...I hate that commercial.
Crack,
Gee, I grew up with three white guys who used to do that.
They're cops now.
See the difference?
No, actually, I do not. Because I think that anyone working hard at any job ought to earn respect. Because I do not see that sneering and swaggering and bullying are admirable traits.
There is no difference. You are assuming that the Black teens in my story wouldn't also grow up to be cops. I see no reason to believe that. You are also assuming that no one can change out of being a teenage brat, and I see no reason to assume that either. But the behavior is as I have described it, and it still sickens me, b/c it was the shat-upon finding someone yet lower down the totem pole to shit on, and obviously in SF, even the Latino part of SF, Blacks were higher on the pole than Latinos.
Quakers and Mennonites are almost the only Americans who can claim they're unworthy of ridicule. The rest are like y'all:
Too proud to tell the truth and do the right thing.
Michelle Dulak Thomson said...
Crack,
Gee, I grew up with three white guys who used to do that.
They're cops now.
See the difference?
No, actually, I do not.
I'm sure that gun makes their jokes funnier now....
"Blacks aren't hiring Mexicans to cut OUR lawns."
So Obama cuts his own lawn? With a non-powered push mower, no doubt.
"Do you know how far your IQ had to drop to say that?"
"That headline must have been different before,"
-- I think it is even more different now. This is what you used: "From "ICE asks officers to deploy to border ‘as soon as this weekend’ to cope with surge" to what you listed as "ICE asks for volunteers to deploy to border ‘as soon as this weekend’ to cope with surge."
As of now, when I click through to the page, I get: "Biden officials fall behind in race to add more shelter space for migrant teens and children"
The URL is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ice-volunteers-border-crisis/2021/03/12/0c8a73a8-832d-11eb-bb5a-ad9a91faa4ef_story.html , so, from the URL, you can tell it is still the same story.
It's kind of hard to mow the lawn, your own or someone else's, when there's a car parked on it.
JAORE said...
"Blacks aren't hiring Mexicans to cut OUR lawns."
I live in a town that's almost 50% Mexican and blacks cut our own lawns.
Wait, this story went live at 2:18 EST? It's now about 4 PM EST. That story has had more headlines than hours it has been live, if Althouse and I caught all three headlines correctly. Note, that there's no update from The Washington Post about the change to their headlines.
JAORE said...
"So Obama cuts his own lawn? With a non-powered push mower, no doubt."
That's your example - Obama?
You guys really don't know any blacks, do you?
“Concrete and steel cells”? Poor children!! That bastard Biden is a cruel cop ain’t he?
Crack - So if anyone benefited from slavery-- those arms still touch us all, today.
OK - sure - there's an argument for that.
You wearing cotton?
But you still need to understand that a whole buncha people have no control over the past. No lie, man.
My family were poor northern Europeans who settled in poor swampy areas of the upper mid-west. They worked hard and they did not own slaves. But - hey - guilty guilt guilty!.
Crack,
My Mom's parents lived on a farm in rural Wisconsin. I doubt they were often more than ten miles from it. There were no Black people nearby. Most of their food was locally-grown, so not by Blacks. If you are going to tell me that they wore clothing containing cotton, so they were indebted to slavery, you are probably correct, but on similar bases, you could find everyone on the planet indebted to slavery (not only in the US) in some way. Tell such people that they had to pay for fair labor instead of slave labor, and I bet a great many would have eagerly complied, even though they were themselves very poor. People in WI had zero to do with the existence of slavery in other, distant states, anymore than you have anything to do with the slave labor that, unless you are very careful indeed, currently suffuses a lot of what you wear and use. But that's Chinese slave labor, of course. Totes different, nyet?
Crack, no doubt, is unaware of the history of Sam Rayburn, a real Speaker of the House, who spent his childhood picking cotton for pennies in Texas.
"Biden officials fall behind in race to add more shelter space for migrant teens and children"
Then get some volunteers to haul their asses down there, then. Right Now. Maybe Obama would help. Those cages aren't going to build themselves, you know.
That's a lie - you can't live in America and have a lineage that never touched slavery. It touched EVERYTHING.
Let's assume for the sake of argument that this is true.
If you do, that also means that EVERY CULTURE, NATION AND COUNTRY ON EARTH HAS BEEN "TOUCHED BY SLAVERY"!
So who gives a shit?
People trying to excuse reality by blaming it on history.
Guys, you’ve having a debate with a psychotic.
I picked fruits and vegetables as a day laborer. Didn't seem to hurt me. Wouldn't want to do it for a lifetime though.
I find myself getting drawn in to arguing with Crack, too.
This guy is severely mentally ill.
I suggest freezing him out by ignoring him, and I’m going to be the first to do it.
There’s no point in arguing with a psychotic.
He’s psychotic and destitute, and he has nothing to do. Getting attention here is the only thing he can possibly get going.
Really, you’ll be doing him a favor if you don’t allow yourself to be drawn into his psychotic ravings.
Hah. I get the same most liked comment from mhrickey; it says that comment was made 5 hours ago. So, not only did they change the headlines, they changed *the dateline,* but were too incompetent to also change the URL *and remove old comments.*
Looking at oldest comments, the fat guts line is the second oldest comment (at 5 hours ago), with Aisle Seat and mhrickey being comments 3 and 4, all saying the same about the headline. Within what looks like less than an *hour* of the article going live, the WaPo was hit with at least 4 or 5 comments to change the title. You can see how quick the FIRST change was. Terra D makes a comment 5 hours ago (as of this writing) to change the title: "WHERE IS THE EDITORIAL OVERSIGHT???? CHANGE THE *HEADLINE* BEFORE VIOLENT VIGILANTES HURT INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!"
Within the hour, WaPo had changed the title enough that Terra D said "Fixed thank you!"
So, when did the NEXT headline change happen? That was harder to find, since there wasn't a set of commenters on WaPo asking for the second change. If you go to Nick Miroff (the author's) Twitter though, he doesn't even capture the FIRST headline change. He only has an update as of about 2:24 PM with an "Update" to his article with the new headline... but the link still pulls from the cached version of WaPo and so the link has the "ICE asks for volunteers" headlines in the image.
So... they changed the headline once before the mob could come for WaPo... and didn't bother to list it as a change *or tell the author* so he could tweet the new headline. Then, a few hours later, feeling they hadn't appeased the mob enough, they made an even bigger change to the headline.
It's kind of a funny thing to see.
They also don't like PAYING for what they've done - it's a thing with them. Consequences, and such.
I'd be happy to see reparations paid - by families who were slave owners and families that benefited from slavery - to the descendants of slaves. how you gonna make that happen?
How about forcing the African tribes who captured members of rival tribes, enslaved them, and sold them to Europeans to pay reparations first?
My mom's folks probably had or desired slaves--they certainly fought hard enough (and died) for the CSA. Pa's folks arrived about 1909-1912 from Deutschland.
Both employed B/black help, sometimes live-in. That wasn't very unusual, and you didn't have to be rich to afford it back in the day.
Cotton was the oil of the 19th C, the all-important commodity around which a yuge portion of international trade centered. Vast fortunes were made by many people in many countries from its cultivation, trade, and processing--Memphis shipped a lot of cotton to NW Europe and probably still does.
Narr
If I knew where my CS ancestors buried all their loot, I'd share, believe me
My comments are meant for the historical record. When some poor grad student is reading this blog as research for some professor 200 years from now, I don't want him to think we were all idiots.
Gabriel, Crack is a psychotic.
He was abandoned by his mother and father to foster care and group homes where he was raped and sexually abused repeatedly.
He’s stark raving made, destitute and probably living in a rented room.
Don’t engage him. It’s crazy to engage him and it only makes his mental problems worse.
Where does a man find conservative women anyways?
Both my sons found their wives in churches. Just sayin’
Latins are 16.7% 0f the USA Blacks 13.4%. The latter cohort though currently speaking with an outsized voice will be muted by the inexorable ascent of the Latin population. And though those crossing the border may be poor and illiterate they are not stupid. They do not believe they are coming to the worst most racist country on the globe and won’t believe it when told.
Please folks, stop giving over the comments section to the ravings of a psychotic.
I bursted ST lying about 5 times - just yesterday - so, please, treat him like Meghan Markle and give him whatever he wants.
I implore you folks.
Don’t turn over this comments section to a psychotic.
Gahrie said...
"Let's assume for the sake of argument that this is true.
If you do, that also means that EVERY CULTURE, NATION AND COUNTRY ON EARTH HAS BEEN "TOUCHED BY SLAVERY"!"
But they didn't all say "All Men Are Created Equal" and then renege on it for centuries until we went to war - and then continued it for another century by other means.
Nobody else did that - but you.
I saw Ricky Gervsais teasing Americans because the Brits got to anti-slavery first.
Whites here were too stupid to figure it out - and we're finally seeing why:
They're stupid and arrogant.
Shouting Thomas said...
I implore you folks.
Don’t turn over this comments section to a psychotic.
Turn it over to dick suckers who spread Harvey Milk's lies to children.
That will be much better.
Oh, Harvey Milk - attacked by straights? No - he blew up his down camera shop and then lied about it.
Let's make him a martyr.
And after we sell the Harvey Milk lie, let's raise gays up to the special status blacks should have, since we didn't lie to get it.
Am I the only person who constantly points out and is pissed about lies?
Y'all never mention them as a problem, unless blacks tell them, but you outnumber us, so,...
Shouting Thomas said...
I implore you folks.
Don’t turn over this comments section to a psychotic.
Yes, create a space where a proven dick sucking liar feels comfortable but an honest black man can't breathe.
That's what non-racists would do.
You see what I mean?
I’ve never mentioned Harvey Milk on this blog to my knowledge, nor do I have any connection to him, nor do I care about him one way or another.
When you argue with Crack, you’re arguing with a psychotic who’s fighting with the voices in his head.
Don’t turn over this comments section to this psychotic.
That's your example - Obama?
Oh Cracky you brilliant, logical, hard working, genius you (assumes evidence by assertion).
I didn't use the all inclusive term. You did.
But then a brilliant, logical, hard working, genius would know that.
Unless someone has lied to us and Obama isn't black. Maybe you can send out a list.
Man that one-trick pony must be exhausted.
But I agree with you on reparations. But instead of checks, Uncle Sugar should send out notices that "We (the US Government) have made a donation to the Native American Tribes in your name. [This donation is NOT deductible on your income taxes.]
Hey ST I'm not really engaging with an psychotic. Engaging would imply an honest back and forth. Cracky ain't honest. I'm poking the ant mound to see the pointless scurrying.
“ Gee, I grew up with three white guys who used to do that”
Haha I’ve always said Crack is really a white guy, but this makes more sense. He’s an Oreo . And apparently he harbors a lot of anger about that.
Your music sucks btw!
JAORE,
Please, don’t respond to respond at all.
You seem to think I’m engaging in the normal internet hyperbole and insults.
I’m not.
Crack really is a psychotic.
Nobody else did that - but you.
No. It wasn't me fuckhead. And it didn't happen to you either asshole. That's the point.
Let all the powerful, compassionate women in Joe's administration take them in. And why not into the White House itself, it is a mansion with lots of space anyhow. They and their soyboy low-t male friends are the ones urging them to come in. Real "compassion" would know when to say "No", but this is saying "Yes", while making someone else pay for it. Kind of like the $1.9T "gift" that's little more than a charge to the nation's credit card, to be pushed in payment to a later date. Pathetic and despicable, but a media addicted to this false compassion will keep pushing it, and call non-supporters "bigots", etc. Doesn't JB also have at least 3 mansions around the country, can't some stay at Joe's?
"Call them cheap labor for rich people"
"Isn't it what they signed up for?
Or they could be home in Mexico."
One thing you can be sure of is that middle and upper class Mexicans despise the Mexican poor and are happy to see them leave the country. Like Californians, The rich only want themselves and their poor servants. They want all the regular people to leave.
"Doesn't JB also have at least 3 mansions around the country, can't some stay at Joe's?"
You'd think so. Bernie's a communist, for crissakes, and he has three houses.
Folks, if you continue to respond to Crack, this comments section will soon be rendered useless, or Althouse will have to shut it down.
This comments section really does have some value.
Crack’s a psychotic who knows how to really piss people off. This is what he learned to do in the group homes. It’s all he knows how to do.
I’m not engaging in the standard insults and troll tactics when I tell you this guy is a psychotic.
If you want this comments section to continue to have any value, you’ve got to refuse to engage the psychotic.
Make it official. Call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE!. Go through life feelin sorry for yourself is usually detectable at > 100 meters. No more tears.
The Christian love here is overwhelming.
Yes, Howard, it is an act of Christian love to refuse to be drawn into the labyrinth of a psychotic fighting with the voices in his head.
You like being able to post here.
Crack is completely and hopelessly psychotic.
When I worked 80-100 hours per week, I had a lawn service. I would have done the same regardless of the level of pigmentation I happened to be born with. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar and a fool.
Now that I work sensible hours, I do most of my own yardwork and house repairs, but only because I enjoy it.
My neighbor, a Guatemalan immigrant, outsources every single aspect of his home upkeep except feeding the birds. My black neighbors also have a yard service, FWIW.
NorthOfTheOneOhOne said... [hush][hide comment]
"ICE should be careful when calling for 'volunteers.' They'll get a bunch of armed white guys with fat guts, no training and an itch to shoot someone who can't shoot back."
Howard?
Isn't a "cell" the proper place to keep a "criminal" (criminal=a person who violated the law) as a "prisoner".
Let's call these people what they are:lawbreakers or criminals. Perhaps a child of 8 is ignorant of the law. But most of these "children" are teenagers and fully aware they are breaking us law crossing our border.
They deserve to be in cells as prisoners. Humane cells and humane treatment of course. And for as little time as possible, days is too long. Hours would be better. Until we can push them back across the border.
John Henry
“Crack is completely and hopelessly psychotic.”
Consider the source of this comment.
“The Christian love here is overwhelming.”
Right?
Crack Emcee: "Y'all never mention them as a problem, unless blacks tell them, but you outnumber us, so,..."
I have been reliably informed that mathematics is racist and a tool to advance white supremacy.
In the future it would be wise to avoid any appearance of mathematical competency or even familiarity.
They'll get a bunch of armed white guys with fat guts, no training and an itch to shoot someone who can't shoot back.
I fail to see that as a problem.
Crack Emcee: "I bursted ST lying about 5 times..."
"about"
That is intriguingly vague.....
the den of scum and villainy that is this administration, serves their masters like the cartels, the pla the iranian revolutionary guard,
Joe Smith: "This whole 'fat white people don't want to work thing' is pure economic envy."
Crack Emcee: "You guys like hypnotizing yourselves with your own bullshit."
In Crack's defense, Nadler does fall asleep quite often while in committee hearings....when he isnt soiling himself live on television.
Inga would probably label that as a Spark of Divinity self-soiling.
Drago said...
Crack Emcee: "I bursted ST lying about 5 times..."
"about"
That is intriguingly vague.....
Because it happened yesterday. But you guys know ST, so this line of questioning should be unnecessary:
We may disagree on reparations, but no one here thinks I'm a liar. ST's entire character is based on deceptions, and most of his statements are as wrong as Deepak Chopra's.
I sincerely believe, if I wasn't a black guy for reparations, you guys would know the difference easily and act accordingly. You torture me for disagreeing, like a bunch of liberals, instead.
Crack Emcee: "Cotton, the fabric of our lives,...I hate that commercial."
Spandex and leather chaps it is then!
No biggee. You are in the Bay Area...
CE: "Blacks aren't hiring Mexicans to cut OUR lawns."
As a general rule, this is true.
Drago said...
"I have been reliably informed that mathematics is racist and a tool to advance white supremacy."
Ah, see - if you guys hadn't chased me away with the nonsense you force on me - you would've had the benefit of knowing how silly I find conservatives, as they bite on every stupid thing anyone says, and then pretend that's how blacks feel. Most blacks are nowhere near a college campus, so you can appreciate what I'm saying, I'm sure.
My buddies selling weed value math, let me tell you.
Back to the thread topic, Biden and the democraticals have happily and gleefully ushered in a new era of Spark of Divinity Child Trafficking.
Inga can explain it.
CE: "..if you guys hadn't chased me away with the nonsense you force on me.."
Something very Freudian going on in that statement...
JAORE said...
"Unless someone has lied to us and Obama isn't black."
He isn't to me. Blacks aren't African - we're American ex-slaves. That's why Michael K makes my eyes roll. We've got no connection to Africas - that's the point.
Y'all don't know nothin' about black people.
Weird how this surge, which by the way will be 3X this size come May, is happening just after President Sack 'O Potatoes took office along with the crazy-eyed Democrats. Just weird that we're having to figure out what to do about this giant surge of immigrants?
Over the past couple of years we were getting this under control. At least giving the country a chance to take a breath and absorb some of the illegal immigrants already here.
Again- the government's #1 job is not funding personal bank accounts, propping up giant banks, education, real estate, or deciding which gender is allowed in which bathroom. Surprisingly, the primary purpose of our Federal Government is national security.
We're failing miserably. But at least some NYT commenters will feel better about it all. I wonder how they'll feel in about 2 years?
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