Said Farah Despeignes, a mother of 2 sons, quoted in "Missing in School Reopening Plans: Black Families’ Trust/Deep-seated mistrust among Black families toward their public school districts is holding back school reopening, even as Black children suffer inordinately from remote learning" (NYT).
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"Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government."
"My mantra is, if you can do it for yourself, you shouldn’t trust other people to do it for you. Because I can’t see for myself what’s going on in that building, I’m not going to trust somebody else to keep my children safe."
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258 पैकी 1 – 200 नवीन› नवीनतम»Sherlock Holmes finally got a clue. Better late than never.
"My mantra is, if you can do it for yourself, you shouldn’t trust other people to do it for you. "
Truth! Sing it!
Whites should've been alarmed at black's "deep distrust" - of EVERYTHING - over a century ago. Their answer has always been same - for whatever they've bequeathed us:
Get over it.
Women have no reason to trust the government. Men don't trust the government.
Welcome to the party, pal.
It's just starting to dawn on me - thanks to listening to Thomas Sowell - that whites think Affirmative Action did what the killing of MLK was responsible for:
Blowing black's minds and destroying the last pillar of America's ethical foundation.
Blaming efforts to helps us is just another convenient way to harm us.
My wife teaches HS Art and has been teaching on-line for more than half of the 2019-2020 year. It is pretty clear to her that the less educationally motivated kids and parents struggle the most with on-line learning. However, all the kids seem to be struggling to a large extent.
The teachers are doing fine, although my wife hates teaching on-line.
I wasn't aware I was black.
"Black people have no reason to trust the government."
Black people think black people have no reason to trust the government. Other people think people have no reason to trust the government.
"My mantra is, if you can do it for yourself, you shouldn’t trust other people to do it for you."
Operative word: if. What can low-SES black families do to help their kids learn?
"I’m not going to trust somebody else to keep my children safe."
Pray tell: apart from endemic violence and exposure to SJW BS in some places, what is unsafe for kids about going to school?
Whites have never actively created a space for anyone else to be comfortable in. It's like when I come here:
If I'm not 100% onboard with the white conservative way of thinking - BAM - they're an attacking mob: BLM in whiteface. And they never see it.
That narcissism epidemic, again.
"My mantra is, if you can do it for yourself, you shouldn’t trust other people to do it for you."
Sparta: "If"
What Jim said, welcome to the party, pal.
I never, ever trust the government to do what I can do for myself. Nor should anyone.
The government, governing through the consent of the governed, is there to protect our natural rights. The rest of this shit is up to us to work out for ourselves.
Because the government does not care about any of us. Never has, never will.
"Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government. My mantra is, if you can do it for yourself, you shouldn’t trust other people to do it for you. Because I can’t see for myself what’s going on in that building, I’m not going to trust somebody else to keep my children safe."
Yes. Yes. Yes. Now, go further...stretch. Ask the right questions. The 5 "W's". Who is making my children unsafe? Why? Where are they most unsafe? Why? What threatens them most, in the here-and-now but also their futures? Why?
Yes. And don't forget Samuel Jackson's character in Die Hard. "And who do we not want to help us? White people."
“Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government,”
Does she vote for representation in her school district, city and state? Are the people running the government she says that black people distrust people that she voted for? Does her distrust extend to the lawmakers and government functionaries - most of whom are liberal and many of whom are black?
The article mentions that many black parents do not want to send their kids back to 'hostile environments' in the classroom - by which the NYT means environments where they think discipline is discriminatory and punishments disproportionately meted out to black students. Could the 'hostile environments' also include schools where unruly kids are allowed to run roughshod over the other kids wanting to lear? How about gang violence and a hesitancy by the schools to punish predatory kids? Think maybe the black parents don't want their kids to be beaten up by other black kids? Maybe the NYT just doesn't want to mention THAT as part of the problem here.
And yet blacks vote for Democrats! Mystifies me as much as Jews voting Democrat and supporting gun control (which of course means gun deprivation).
LBJ, a beer-swilling, blunt-speaking [Democrat] Texan, didn’t shy from using what today we refer to as The N Word. One sentence often attributed to LBJ, which has gained great fame on the internet, is this: "I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for 200 years."
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/did-lbj-say-ill-have-those-nggers-voting-democratic-200-years/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms&feature=emb_logo
There is no one who thinks the public schools look better since the Wuhan strain hit us and the schools closed. And they looked pretty bad before China graced us with their lab experiment.
The fact that Black Americans (as perceived by the NYT) are skeptical of their public schools is not a surprise. The fact that it took to this point for it to be coming out and spoken about in the NYT is one of those, better late than never moments.
The people who have been screwed over more than anyone by our public school 'system' are Black kids who have to go to the worst public schools in the parts of the cities where NO ONE would send their kids, if they had the choice. Oh yeah...there's that word: Choice.
For Democrats 'choice' refers to the ability to kill babies. For Black families- 'choice' should mean a choice of school. There is no other way to break the chain of multi-generational poverty. No government program will do it. 100 years of Democrats running those cities certainly hasn't done it. And no- Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not about to do it. They're owned by the Teacher's Unions. You want choice? Quit voting in Democrats. They don't give a crap about your education.
Ask Bill DeBlasio where he sends his kids to school. Ask Andrew Cuomo. Barack Obama. Hillary. Kamala. Any of them. Sidwell Friends, anyone?
Whites have never actively created a space for anyone else to be comfortable in.
the bullshitiest of bullshit right there.
If she said it, how do the editors know she capitalizes the b in Black?
Maybe they should have used square brackets in that quote.
Doug said...
Whites have never actively created a space for anyone else to be comfortable in.
the bullshitiest of bullshit right there.
ReallY? We're all Americans, right? Watch this, and then come back and explain the joke - without mentioning racism.
I dare you to try.
Black people have absolutely no reason to trust the government. They have been getting told that the government has been the thing that gives you things since the Civil War. They have also been trained to expect that the government can give you things. It can. But it very seldom gives people what they want or expected, and that goes for everybody.
The goal of everyone in America should be to be as self-reliant from government as possible (with less to do they'll do far less damage) but here's the problem. Self-reliance might mean carrying a gun, but it also means not putting oneself in the position of needing to use it. It might mean farming potatoes in the middle of nowhere, but might also mean saving and prudently investing. It could mean avoiding police because you think they're dangerous, but it could also mean not doing something that would draw that kind of attention in the first place.
Do. Not. Trust. Government. The trick to self-reliance is how you get there, not where you begin.
Not just black people. It's nice when government gets things right, but to surrender your agency to government is foolish.
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The people who have been screwed over more than anyone by our public school 'system' are Black kids who have to go to the worst public schools in the parts of the cities where NO ONE would send their kids, if they had the choice. Oh yeah...there's that word: Choice.
Yep. NYY failed to ask the black woman if she would be O.K. with sending her kids to the lotteryized charter school or the mostly white schools a twenty minute bus ride out of th 'hood.,
One sentence often attributed to LBJ, which has gained great fame on the internet, is this: "I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for 200 years."
Only 143 years to go.
For Black families- 'choice' should mean a choice of school. There is no other way to break the chain of multi-generational poverty. No government program will do it. 100 years of Democrats running those cities certainly hasn't done it.
It also has to be noted that the vast majority of Black kids go to schools with Black teachers, administered by Black principals and run by Black school boards.
"Whites have never actively created a space for anyone else to be comfortable in."
There's Crack, expecting everyone else to do the work for blacks that they should do for themselves.
Here's a simple clue: It's not "whites" job to create space for comfort. It's no one's job to do that.
A politically incorrect comments. With 26 politically incorrect "likes".
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The relentless focus on race in this newspaper is going to serve to create more societal division. It perversely lends credibility to racism, and stereotypes in general. The fact is this: humans are defined by more than their race, lumping all “black people” into a category is wrong, regardless of the intention. Enough is enough.
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When it's a documented, historical fact, that it takes horrible incidents, like this, to prick the hearts of whites, I don't know why you guys argue about it so much. Your culture is what it is. Like Africans, who would disembowel their enemies and stomp on their entrails, to help release their spirit to the next life. As ex-slaves we have a different culture.
And thank goodness for that.
Watch this, and then come back and explain the joke - without mentioning racism.
I dare you to try
That's 5:57 of my life I will never have back, and reinforces my disdain for stand-up comedy all over again.
The hell with the joke. Tired stuff, and I feel for the poor white woman who was humiliated by this genius.
To your statement about whites creating safe spaces for anyone else, let me ask you: how many white presidents, deans, administrators of American universities have created all-black dorms, blacks-only seminars and all-black graduation ceremonies?
Let me see if I have this right: Teachers’ unions (which overwhelmingly favor white adults over black children) repeatedly and doggedly thwarted back-to-school plans in cities across the country, yet it’s now somehow black parents’ fault that kids are still at home?
White privilege is real: You’re looking at it.
"Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government."
Why just Blacks? I'm White and I don't trust the government either, at any level. You should not trust the government because it has shown that is not trustworthy, regardless the race of the government officials. I would opine that the majority of problems facing the Black communities in the major urban areas are caused by BLACK elected officials and Black bureaucrats because the majority of the elected officials and bureaucrats in the urban areas are Black, as are a majority of the school teachers and school administrators. You don't have a problem because of racism, you have a problem because of incompetence and a lot of that incompetence emanates from Black people you keep electing and supporting.
Every problem is not caused by racism. In fact, practically none of them are today. Get over your delusions of persecution and elect some good leaders who are capable of making a difference in the lives of you and your kids, and quit worrying about what their race happens to be.
Who here is comfortable in his/her own skin? Show of hands.
"If I go sailing, I'm taking a white baby on a key-chain with me."
- from Crack's link
TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed said...
"There's Crack, expecting everyone else to do the work for blacks that they should do for themselves."
From the end of slavery - when whites gave us freedom and nothing else - until today, whites expect the least educated, the least able, the least equipped, the least financially secure, and the least LIKED, to be able to handle everything - in a world of Mark Zuckerbergs flying ahead of us at a million miles an hour.
And this is after they killed King - just to make everything clear to the rest of us.
What a country.
(which overwhelmingly favor white adults over black children)
Facts not in evidence.
I don't trust the government. I guess that means I might be black.
Actually I'm Irish, which used to be worse. But then we took control of the big city political machines. Exercising shamrock privilege. Then we scattered to the burbs.
May the road rise to meet you.
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
Whites have never actively created a space for anyone else to be comfortable in. It's like when I come here:
Always needing us to do it. Crack, you seem to be getting it sometimes, then you go back to this.
The good will of whites voting for Obama (I didn't but I would have voted for Powell before he veered left) is not enough for you guys. Read Clarence Thomas' book, "My Grandfathers Son."
""Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government.""
Correction-----> proof that ALL people have no reason to trust the government or those who work for the government.
Teachers’ unions (which overwhelmingly favor dues paying adults over black children) repeatedly and doggedly thwarted back-to-school plans in cities across the country, yet it’s now somehow black parents’ fault that kids are still at home?
FIFY
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"Whites have never actively created a space for anyone else to be comfortable in."
Every city in the world has buildings designed by Mies Van Der Rohe (father of the modern skyscraper) that people feel comfortable in. Not pagodas. 'Whites have never actively created a space' so severely that 170+ major nationalities can go to any 'white' country and in one generation feel perfectly comfortable at home, and sometimes the 1st generation feels that way too. White people and white countries have enshrined into their constitutions entire sections specifically intended to make other not-white people comfortable.
That is a lie.
Temujin,
Ask Bill DeBlasio where he sends his kids to school. Ask Andrew Cuomo. Barack Obama. Hillary. Kamala. Any of them. Sidwell Friends, anyone?
I'll never forget George Will facing off with Jesse Jackson, oh, twenty-five years or so ago, on "This Week," about schools, public and private and charter. After Jackson had finished his long rant against anything but public education in DC, Will just said, "Well, see you at the next PTA meeting." (Will's children -- not sure about Jonathan -- and Jackson's both were at Sidwell Friends at the time.)
I believe that Amy Carter was the last Presidential child to go to public school in DC.
Doug said...
"That's 5:57 of my life I will never have back, and reinforces my disdain for stand-up comedy all over again."
Funny - that isn't a reply that meets my query. I said to explain the joke.
"The hell with the joke."
This is where the claim to white privilege comes from: what gives you the right to abuse my time this way? I challenged you, respectfully. What entitles you to say "The hell with the joke." except you're white and give yourself the privilege? Can anyone else see how such an attitude plays out in other areas of black's lives? Trying to respectfully and positively navigate a hostile people who decide - all by their non-racist lonesome - "The hell with _________"?
"Tired stuff, and I feel for the poor white woman who was humiliated by this genius."
Angry white men are pretty "tired", too, but you seem comfortable enough portraying that in public to blacks.
"To your statement about whites creating safe spaces for anyone else, let me ask you"
I never said shit about "safe spaces" - I said (and you're proving it with this hostile attack) whites have never tried to take anyone else feel safe. Your answer - as you're demonstrating - is "Get over it" (whatever you do). It will never be you, looking in the mirror, and CHECKING YOURSELF FOR BEING AN ASSHOLE.
"How many white presidents, deans, administrators of American universities have created all-black dorms, blacks-only seminars and all-black graduation ceremonies?"
It should a fact of logic - which I don't give you credit for - that, if your UNIVERSITIES have gotten so STUPID they can't recognize bad ideas when they hear them, then that, too, is NOT the fault of ignorant blacks coming there to be EDUCATED.
Teachers’ unions (which overwhelmingly favor dues paying adults over black children)
Ironically, in Atlanta, Georgia, where Democrat policies of democratic gerrymandering and Every Child Left Behind will forever live in infamy. #BabyLivesMatter(BLM)
Trump, to his credit, bypassed the Democrat-affiliated community leaders, and worked with the stakeholders in a policy of revitalization, rehabilitation, and reconciliation without diversity [dogma] for all.
gspencer said...
"And yet blacks vote for Democrats!"
I consider that a symbol of an American miseducation right there.
I can understand why blacks distrust the government. I can't understand why so many of them vote for a party that wants ever more power over them in order to "help".
jaydub said...
"Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government."
Why just Blacks?
This is why there's race problems. She didn't say "just blacks". This black woman was just speaking, generally, and it gets jumped on as a specific statement. Why couldn't you have read it, as I did, and just said "Amen"? As many whites would, too?
Whites don't realize the harm they do with this constant antagonism.
Nobody knows the trouble I've seen,
Nobody knows my sorrow..
One of my favorite peripherals dropped out of eighth grade and got a job.
Fast forward, during dot com boom, was employed at high tech, doing low tech work. Went to work in real nice clothes, ate lunch in a fancy on site cafeteria. Bust came right after him and wife bought a house.
Lost the cushy job, took a job driving a small tanker truck with vacuum attachment to clean porta pottys. The hose would occasionally disconnect while under vacumm.
Advanced to a government truck driving job, where, naturally, most other drivers and management are AA.
Co workers, all making more than him due to seniority, complaining how bad their race has it, he replies with
"Fuck you, my mom picked cotton and my dad worked in the coal mines". (Mom and Dad from the south)
Actually heard the story from one of his AA co workers.
We all in California, so obviously not as terrible a situation regarding job opportunity as the rest of you racists in other states where black people can't get a break.
All the protests since last May have been screeds against "systemic racism." Since almost all of these protests have occurred in Democrat-run cities, "systemic racism" must be carried out by Democrats. These protesters are most certainly Democrats, so they're protesting themselves for their "systemic racism." It would never occur to them to vote for non-Democrat candidates to end their dreaded "systemic racism."
"Whites have never actively created a space for anyone else to be comfortable in."
A diversitist statement. Do not em-pathize. Do not exercise liberal license to indulge color judgments. Lose your Pro-Choice quasi-religion (e.g. "ethics"). Progress (i.e. unqualified monotonic change) is notoriously one step forward, two steps backward. #BabyLivesMatter #PrinciplesMatter
2020 and indeed the entire lifting of the curtains and turning over of rocks that Trump has done has shown us that nobody has any reason to trust the government.
Basically their agenda is to send our jobs overseas in one direction, and our boys to fight overseas in another direction.
Since almost all of these protests have occurred in Democrat-run cities, "systemic racism" must be carried out by Democrats.
Diversity of individuals, minority of one. #BabyLivesMatter(BLM)
Full Moon said: "Yep. NYY failed to ask the black woman if she would be O.K. with sending her kids to the lotteryized charter school or the mostly white schools a twenty minute bus ride out of th 'hood.,"
That New York purposely stifles charter schools and makes it more and more difficult to operate them is a New York issue. That gets corrected by voting out the current school board, city council members, and the Mayor. Remember- these large cities are run via Party machine. There is no mandate for change. Far from it. If anything there is a mandate to keep greasing the same wheels that have given the party in power, more money and more power. The don't care about the kids. They care about their retirement package.
That woman should not have to worry a minute about getting to the 'mostly white school's twenty minutes away'. If their market was truly free, truly open, there would be charter schools & trade schools in such a quantity that in short time, there would be choice. REAL choice. And through competition, they would filter out which schools are the quality. And that howl you would hear would be coming from the Teacher's Union building.
New York has no choice by design. The hold on our kids to go to bad public schools and get deeducated has got to be put to an end. You would no more allow Randi Weingarten to take over your kids life than you would your own. Why do we, as a nation, allow it?
She’s right. The schools are letting children down. I’d broaden to no patent if any skin color should trust this government. At all. They’ve proved to be highly untrustworthy just like their stenographers in the media.
"And this is after they killed King - just to make everything clear to the rest of us."
"They" didn't kill King. One deranged killer did that job. "They" named a thousand schools after him, a thousand roads, held him up as a paragon of virtue, made him the subject of a national holiday, adopted his philosophy of colorblindness and worked very hard to atone for past racial injustice he documented. Frankly, I could care less whether Crack thinks those efforts were appropriate or sufficient. I don't owe Crack anything and I don't really give a crap what Crack thinks. He's a bitter, pathetic pity monger who thinks "Whitey" gets up in the morning and wonders "what can I do to screw the Black man today?" Frankly, I don't have time to worry about Crack or scheme about how to screw him. I'm living for today and not a hundred years ago. And, no Crack, your reparations con - which is what your bull shit is really all about - is never going to work.
There is only one Mark Zuckerberg, etc. That is wrong thinking that all whites are in the same league as the Zuckerberg/Bezos crowd. The Google guy, Sundar Pichai isn't white. There are plenty of people in the US and around the world who are wealthy who are not white. Becoming wealthy has nothing to do with the government taking care of you or white people making sure you are comfortable. No one is responsible for your feelings or your success. If you don't understand that you are definitely not understanding life and reality. The guy who is most adament attacking "new age" fantasies is least realistic about the real world. Ironic.
The thing I've noticed is that when you surrender your will to being dependent on the government, or anyone else, you no longer have any choice. (AKA agency.) "They" get to make the choices for you with their own self interest forefront in their minds. You are not equal partners, you are collateral, and one size fits all. If you live in low income housing, for example, and the corporate owner decides to do a renovation, you get the renovation the corporation decides is in their best interest and makes them the biggest profit. What you like or want doesn't matter. You are there to provide an excuse for the owner to collect rents. You can be as angry as you want about it, but that doesn't make any difference. Anytime you let someone else make decisions for you they will, but it will be for their benefit, especially if they are doing that for their living.
No more fucks to give. Sorry, but you get the government you vote for, lady.
There was a bit in that article that I tried to track down, but (unlike most specific incidents mentioned in NYT articles) it wasn't linked. I mean the statement that Detroit parents received "threatening" emails from school administrators about keeping their kids' Webcams turned on.
Several pp into Google (yes, should've used DuckDuckGo, my bad!) results, I found what they were talking about -- not the "threats," but at least the Webcam business. It seems that kids don't want their faces shown during Zoom. Or not (mostly) their faces, but whatever's behind them. Maybe they're getting their WiFi outside a Subway, or their home environment is crap, or their other siblings are distracting to the class, or their room is a mess. So they log in, but leave the camera off.
I do understand this, having been through school like everyone else here. Some kids will use anything to bully you, and the fact that the bullying material is now harder to access makes it all the more fun for a certain kind of twisted kid. Still, one of the points of class is for the teacher to see you, to make sure you're getting the material. And parents who turn off the Zoom camera make that impossible.
But what sort of "threats" were these? The NYT won't tell us, and neither will Detroit media, so far as I've been able to find out.
Teachers’ unions (which overwhelmingly favor dues paying adults over black children)
You think paying guild dues somehow absolves teachers of their responsibility to our children?
That New York purposely stifles charter schools and makes it more and more difficult to operate them is a New York issue
New York of Planned Parent/hood and multi-decadal protests infamy. That said, religion (i.e. moral philosophy) for people capable of self-moderation. Competing interests to mitigate progress of others running amuck. Also, the American state laboratory experiment was with cause: signal diversity.
Roughcoat said...
"Who here is comfortable in his/her own skin? Show of hands."
I am - I love being black and most blacks do, too. It's y'all who hate us, because you feel insecure next to us, so you MUST have power over us - constantly - and have made sure you do, for centuries. Sad but true.
Denials will do you no good. It's cultural.
Politics lives downstream from culture. - Andrew Breitbart
I like that I'm trying to get you guys to fix things - by attacking Oprah - and you won't do it because you're too busy attacking me as a racist.
I feel like Trump a lot these days.
Crack should take a long look how Asians have taken the responsibility for their lives and the lives of their children into their own hands...they don't worry about having to trust anyone.
Sorry Crack but blaming Whites for the state of American Blacks is a losing plan.
Absolutely zero guidance would have been better than what our Fed and State governments provided in 2020. Sure we would have had some health departments strained but at least the economy and voting wouldn’t have been fucked over so badly.
All I can say, Crack, is that you continue to work hard to maintain the reputation you so richly deserve.
Michael K said...
"Always needing us to do it. Crack, you seem to be getting it sometimes, then you go back to this."
Somebody's forgotten all the times he's joined the racist mob, here, and I still don't hold it against him.
You need a good guy to "go back to" because I've seen your asshole side too long. If you're trying to parlay my previous kind words to you into this attack, fuck you back, Asshole.
Earnest Prole said...
Teachers’ unions (which overwhelmingly favor dues paying adults over black children)
You think paying guild dues somehow absolves teachers of their responsibility to our children?
Earnest Prole, you are not paying attention.
I do remember coming here, not too long ago, and it took you non-racists all of a few minutes to start peppering me with race questions - when I came here to commune with you.
YOU are the racists. The 2012 Republican Autopsy said so - not blacks. Trump is the only thing saving your sorry asses politically - I left the GOP because of you guys, remember? I vote Independent now. Because you're racists. No one can stand you. THAT'S what's at the heart of all of this.
If you can't see it, then I can't help you - and I do try.
Shitheads take over World, minorities hardest hit.
Crack: "Why just Blacks? This is why there's race problems. She didn't say "just blacks". This black woman was just speaking, generally, and it gets jumped on as a specific statement. Why couldn't you have read it, as I did, and just said "Amen"? As many whites would, too?"
It has a little bit to do with the subtitle of the article, Crack, to wit:
"Deep-seated mistrust among Black families toward their public school districts is holding back school reopening, even as Black children suffer inordinately from remote learning."
It was presented as a Black problem. And if you read my comment, you will note that I said I didn't trust government at any level. That's kind of an "amen" to me. Everything doesn't have to be presented in racial terms, except for anything you are associated with. You are racist to the core, Crack, not that there is anything wrong with Black racism.
Teachers unions control the Democrats who control the schools who shaft inner city black pupils whose parents vote for Democrats.
I have been saying for 25 years that bad schools are the killer issue for Republicans, and that bad schools are quite fixable. But Republicans care more about finding novel ways to lose.
But it’s important to note, bad schools hurt all their poor pupils. It’s corruption not racism.
Rosalyn C. said...
"There is only one Mark Zuckerberg, etc. That is wrong thinking that all whites are in the same league as the Zuckerberg/Bezos crowd."
Oh, please, I grew up 400 miles from Silicon Valley and I didn't discover computers until the late 90s - meanwhile, you assholes were making fortunes..
Y'all should stop. You really disappoint me to no end. I'm not attacking you: I'm telling you what it's like. If it's an affront to you, then just accept you've been lied to, and go from there.
I know I've been lied to as well.
Earnest Prole, you are not paying attention.
It’s not inconceivable.
Jupiter said...
"Shitheads take over World, minorities hardest hit."
Amen.
Crack has got to be some White guy trolling us...
Crack isn’t the issue here. Mistrust is and it is true across many skin colors for UCR distrust now.
It's interesting that an elected School Board member would distrust the government and public schools - she's part of government and presumably one of the people who set policy for public schools. Or maybe she distrusts the government because she knows how it works.
The Crack Emcee said...
TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed said...
"There's Crack, expecting everyone else to do the work for blacks that they should do for themselves."
From the end of slavery - when whites gave us freedom and nothing else - until today, whites expect the least educated, the least able, the least equipped, the least financially secure, and the least LIKED, to be able to handle everything - in a world of Mark Zuckerbergs flying ahead of us at a million miles an hour.
2/1/21, 4:22 PM
I wouldn't feel terrible about this specific thing, if I were you. The oligarchs in charge of American society expect whites to excel in similar fashion. "Learn to code," as it were, at least until they bring in a million Indians to undercut programmer wages. Some whites excel, others don't, others collapse entirely. This is partly due to unremitting hostility against some industries and businesses among the white subcultures, much as bigotry and many other factors hold back the black man. The police ruthlessly persecute black and white alike- the most obvious grievances against them don't make the mainstream media (like with Andrew Garner), while whites brutalized by cops are NEVER seriously covered.
Some of your grievances are entirely reasonable. Others less so. In some ways I think you actually don't go far enough with your demands! Nonetheless, it's all academic. The party that supposedly "represents" black people could not possibly care less about you, and the native majority in opposition feels the kind of resentment that usually explodes into ethnic violence. Some directed at your people, some directed at others.
You know, as I do, that some American slave masters took pride in their scientific, compassionate natures. Then the mask slipped, subjecting slaves to particularly violent reprisals until the cycle began anew. I absolutely believe that you live in fear of white psychopaths now, and I can assure you that it's going to get a great deal worse. It's your one and only life- what are you going to do about it?
All this uncomfortable pirouetting around the real issue of how badly they were doing long before covid. A teacher can do only so much with an unwilling and indifferent student. None of the students read anywhere near grade level.
It's either laugh, or cry.
So they log in, but leave the camera off.
I've been teaching high school online since March 16, 2020. In my experience 99% of kids would prefer not to turn their camera on. Almost none of my kids do. Even more, when I talk to them in Teams, they refuse to unmute, and type their responses in chat instead.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
""Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government.""
Correction-----> proof that ALL people have no reason to trust the government or those who work for the government.
See? You're all doing it: not allowing a black person to just SPEAK. For some reason, you - YOU - HAVE to jump on the word "black" and make sure to differentiate yourselves. She only said it because we have a history. It would make non sense for a white person to isolate their race in such a way - but you don't care - you MUST stick yourselves on top of it.
You guys have a problem.
Aren’t Nigerians the single most successful ethnic group in America? Certainly they are spectacularly successful as immigrants, making well over the national or white average.
So Crack Emcee just is wrong. Factually in error.
Yancey Ward,
No more fucks to give. Sorry, but you get the government you vote for, lady.
Unusual for you, Yancey; ordinarily I agree with you. But you have no idea who or what she voted for, and neither do I. The trouble with democracy (well, one of the troubles) is that unless the groups voting are no bigger than six or so (and usually not even then), there is always a losing side. For all you or I know, she may be on it.
Mike of Snoqualmie said...
"It would never occur to them to vote for non-Democrat candidates to end their dreaded "systemic racism.""
Just as it's never occurred to whites to do anything about it either.
Y'all got a problem - and it only ever reveals itself when a black person comes around,...
Crack
Where did I not let her speak? Genuinely curious.
Not surprisingly, Mr LetGrandmaDie is also MrLetTheKidSuffer.
I agree Crack has Yancey Ward dead to rights.
JaimeRoberto said...
I can understand why blacks distrust the government. I can't understand why so many of them vote for a party that wants ever more power over them in order to "help".
It just promised them $2,000.
I'd feel pretty shitty if I'd created a country that's created citizens so detached from it, they'd sell it out for a couple thousand dollars, but - that's your utopia.
Enjoy it, Folks.
jaydub said...
"And this is after they killed King - just to make everything clear to the rest of us."
"They" didn't kill King. One deranged killer did that job
King's popularity at the time of death was in the low 30s.
This constant wiggling, you guys do, is always telling.
Why not just award all the school kids straight A's in absentia? Declare victory and go home.
BobJustBob said...
"Crack should take a long look how Asians have taken the responsibility for their lives and the lives of their children into their own hands...they don't worry about having to trust anyone."
They have extended families, don't they? Nuclear families? "Old countries"? Where do ex-slaves get any of that? The centuries of resilience and wherewithal a family gets over time - where do ex-slaves get any of that? You killed every great leader we've ever had - where do we get that?
You guys are just God - making us sinners and then demanding we heal ourselves - because you said so.
Owen
That’s a better idea than you might think. The solution to blue voting is blue governance. I am in favor of deep blue governance in all blue cities. Start by defunding the cops, ending school testing, and keeping people in jail. Let the voter decide!
Doug said...
"All I can say, Crack, is that you continue to work hard to maintain the reputation you so richly deserve."
I'm sorry I won't stab my Mom in the back for you.
If you accept Biden's claim that the US is defined by systemic racism infecting all its institutions, this reaction makes some sense. Gotta love all that racial healing that Biden is bring about.
Do not trust government. Government is asshole
“ I'm sorry I won't stab my Mom in the back for you.”
Then you'll never be White Woke. That is *the* central demand wokeness places on whites.
Michelle,
You are right, I don't know who she voted for, but the odds are about 20 to 1 that it was De Blasio, Cuomo, Schumer and Biden.
Crack
“Y'all got a problem - and it only ever reveals itself when a black person comes around,...”
LOL. The greatest joke on whites was pulled on themselves when they bought into thinking a drugged up con resisting arrest andd accidentally killed by a cop was a civil rights hero! And then going all on one knee from Corporate America to the classroom. Now that is power, brother, but it didn’t earn you a dime. And won’t. It is one of your cults erupted overnight from the escaped soul of George fatso Floyd. But it is not intended to fix anything. This is the cult of the sainted resisting arrest crooks transformed into saints to prove, once again, you have no agency. But it is not meant to fix anything because, as you know, that is the opposite of the point of a cult n
A few thoughts...
(1) On an individual basis, the biggest obstacles blacks face are low average cognitive ability and high average aggression. Both have a biological component and thus are not amenable through social intervention.
(2) On a social basis, the biggest obstacles blacks face are neighborhoods full of black people. The kind you're likely to see featured on a WorldStar clip. The best thing for the "good ones" is to get out of those dysfunctional neighborhoods, which are not conducive to developing human potential.
(3) On a political level, all the damage the neoliberal reforms have wrought on the white working class have been doubly damaging to the black working class. The black middle class owes a big part of its existence to affirmative action in local, state, and federal employment and contracting.
(4) Despite a 50-year concerted effort to close the black-white gap in education, employment, income, etc., the results have been pretty much bupkis.
jaydub said...
"It was presented as a Black problem."
We got history - you guys got NO history to act the way you do towards the word "black" except as racists.
@The Crack Emcee:
You guys are just God - making us sinners and then demanding we heal ourselves - because you said so.
Imagine if a person maliciously ran you down with their car and caused you massive bodily injury. Even though they bear full responsibility for your injuries, they can't do your physical therapy for you.
doctrev said...
"Some of your grievances are entirely reasonable. Others less so."
This is what kills me about you guys: except for reparations - which is my ONLY "black" issue - we agree on probably 90% of things. But, you guys are such ASSHOLES, that's not good enough.
Your obstinance is the worst thing to happen to race relations, in the modern era, ever.
"My mantra is, if you can do it for yourself, you shouldn’t trust other people to do it for you. Because I can’t see for myself what’s going on in that building, I’m not going to trust somebody else to keep my children safe."
God bless you, lady. You're a good mom.
Ken B said...
"Aren’t Nigerians the single most successful ethnic group in America?"
How dumb are you? Are Nigerians ex-slaves living with their captors?
Matt,
It's interesting that an elected School Board member would distrust the government and public schools - she's part of government and presumably one of the people who set policy for public schools. Or maybe she distrusts the government because she knows how it works.
Public school teachers -- and administrators -- disproportionately send their own kids elsewhere. This is not new; it's been going on as long as I've been alive. In fact, ISTR that in a thread a week or so ago (was it here? I rather think it was), a parent complained that the charter school "lottery" where s/he lived was rigged, in that teachers got "dibs" on getting their own kids assigned away from the hellholes where they themselves taught.
That surprises me not at all. There are certainly teachers who would send their kids to the places where they teach. But they are the teachers whose environments are already decent, where there aren't metal detectors on the doors, and nine-year-old kids don't amuse themselves by heaving furniture at them. The last is a real problem, and the NYT and other papers are making it worse by saying that Black kids are "disproportionately" disciplined, or (worse), that "disabled" kids are. "Disability" conjures up a blind or deaf kid, or one in a wheelchair, or a "learning-disabled" kid. That is not who we are talking about here.
Requirements for a decent shot at learning something in school:
Everyone sits down.
Everyone (after opening and closing banter, as it were; I'm not completely inhuman) is quiet unless called on.
Kids raise hands (or otherwise signal if unable) before being called on and asked to speak.
No one gets out of his/her chair unless excused by the teacher.
No one cheats by any means. I think cell phones ought to be surrendered to the teacher at beginning of class and returned at end -- seems to work for my husband -- but if you think of something else, do it.
Violating rules involves calling the principal, who shall remove the student first, investigate later.
IMO, the only people who could possibly object to the above rules are people who want school to destroy itself.
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
Ken B said...
"Aren’t Nigerians the single most successful ethnic group in America?"
How dumb are you? Are Nigerians ex-slaves living with their captors?
No, they were mostly the captors. But, in the Biafran Civil War, they were starved and murdered like few slaves were.
Ken B said...
“ I'm sorry I won't stab my Mom in the back for you.”
Then you'll never be White Woke. That is *the* central demand wokeness places on whites.
Mother, I want to FUCK you. Father, I want to KILL you. - Jim Morrison
You forget: we watch you guys, and what you admire, too.
Sorry Crack but it's you making us sinners and then demanding we heal you because you said so.
Your obstinance is the worst thing to happen to race relations, in the modern era, ever.
No, that was Obama and Holder. And Al Sharpton, of course.
Her kid is in no danger in going back to school because of COVID, which is the subtext of the article on reopening the schools. They were never in any danger, and we really should have known this almost 1 year ago. We certainly knew it by last September. The schools would be open if we weren't being governed by a bunch of Karen Bs. As for the teachers and the staff, we also know which of them are in danger from COVID- not very many of them, but we still go for universal school shutdowns.
No one should ever trust the government in any matter. Ever.
If it’s important to you, do it yourself.
Crack
You made it about *black*. Aren’t they black? Or are you Joe Biden, deciding who is black?
If you don’t mean black, you mean something else then be clear. But then most of your responses won’t work anymore.
And where in America is there a single ex-slave?
Michael K said...
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
Ken B said...
"Aren’t Nigerians the single most successful ethnic group in America?"
How dumb are you? Are Nigerians ex-slaves living with their captors?
No, they were mostly the captors.
AND THEN YOU WONDER WHY THEY DO BETTER THAN US WITH YOU GUYS.
That's ok Crack because we watch you guys and what you admire too...and the excuses you make...and we are not impressed.
Crack: you seem to have one trick. It's gotten old.
I'm not going to try to explain it to you, but I urge you to take a hard look at your self-pity, your anger, your projection, and try to raise your game. If all you do is, in effect, yell "GFY" to everybody else on the thread, guess what, that's mostly what you'll get back from them.
Cheers.
BobJustBob said...
"Sorry Crack but it's you making us sinners and then demanding we heal you because you said so."
That unwillingness to deal with reality - remember: I just watched a whole series of videos on Christianity and slavery - is why so few other Americans can, now, as well.
Umm...Crack? You do know that there are no more ex-slaves and their captures...right?
They do better because they don't expect anyone else to help them...
Michael K said...
"In the Biafran Civil War, they were starved and murdered like few slaves were."
I guess that's why they're here, doing well, and not there - stuck with those guys like we're stuck with you.
"Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government."
And thus another Trump voter is born
Shrug. As far as I'm concerned it's your unwillingness to deal with reality...say for instances Christianity and slavery. It happened over a century ago and it also ignores the role of Christianity in the efforts to end slavery.
The Angry Black Guy thing is not a good look for you...
Farmer:
https://rbscp.lib.rochester.edu/4386
And shut up Whitey.
Crack
Your problem is I caught you in a lie. You said whites make it impossible for blacks to do well. So I cited you a group of black immigrants doing spectacularly well. You won’t admit you were wrong, and that your statement needs caveats. Until you do, none of us will take you seriously, no matter how angry you become.
Michael K said...
Your obstinance is the worst thing to happen to race relations, in the modern era, ever.
No, that was Obama and Holder. And Al Sharpton, of course.
See? There's the asshole I know and love. Welcome back.
You're the reason we got Obama - and your racism is why he was allowed to rule, when you could've knocked him down through his association with Oprah, but all you saw was black skin. But you're not a racist. Not Michael KKK.
One black defies y'all and you're ugly. A nice totally non-racist mob.
Michael K said...
"That was Obama and Holder. And Al Sharpton, of course."
Will somebody please scream "Donald Trump" so this asshole can hear how stupid he sounds?
Ken, how are your “visible minorities” doing up there in your maple syrup soaked fantasies ya hoser?
“ One black defies y'all and you're ugly”
Oh FFS Crack, they hate me far more, and say far worse things to me. Just last week they were posting sexual fantasies about getting cancer. And they are even worse to Inga. Grow up.
OK, as usual with you guys, I've had enough: I'm outta here. My time quotient for hanging with racists has been met. Ann and Meade can "enjoy" you alone.
You guys deserve Biden, I guess - you caused him. If thinking a demand I turn on my friends and family seems reasonable to you.
I feel nothing but sympathy for you, and - when he signs the order for reparations - I'll be thinking of all of you.
Now - kiss my black ass.
In life you can be equal or special.
But you can’t have it both ways.
As the man said in Brown, special is inherently unequal.
Crack said:
I like that I'm trying to get you guys to fix things - by attacking Oprah
OK. Crack, I don't know what you mean. To me Oprah is (was) a TV star on daytime TV. She told everyone they were fine, whatever they did - I think that's what it was. But what is there to attack? Perhaps (based on past posts) you see her as a particularly successful apostle of New Ageiness? Tolkien wrote the whole Lord of the Rings as a response to New Age back in his time. Did you ever form an opinion on those books? And CS Lewis wrote That Hideous Strength for the same reason. So did JK Rowling in Harry Potter. Lots of Christians refuse to read Tolkien or Harry Potter because they see those books as promoting the heathen New Age, not baptizing it. Perhaps Oprah is sending two messages: one I hear which just sounds like pablum to me. The other is appealing to some strand of opinion like that which Tolkien and CS Lewis noticed. And perhaps it's raging unchecked though I have to say I don't see it. Once somebody I was working with tried to tell me he could fly, (meaning he was a sorcerer I was told); and I just felt embarrassed that somebody would make such a ridiculous claim out loud.
I realize you are a musician and don't want to read a book and relate your experiences to it. And if you put some chords together and say, "this is what Oprah is doing," I won't know what you've conveyed. Hmmm.
Teachers’ unions (which overwhelmingly favor dues-EXTORTED adults over black children) repeatedly and doggedly thwarted back-to-school plans in cities across the country, yet it’s now somehow black parents’ fault that kids are still at home?
FIFY
2/1/21, 4:27 PM
@The Crack Emcee:
For what it's worth, I take a lot of your points regarding the severing of ancestral ties, the challenges of ethnicity and nationalism, the crucial distinctions between voluntary and involuntary minorities, and the complexities of assimilating to American culture. One of the consequences of the left's overuse of the race card has been to drown out the kind of complex social relations that you describe.
When I was younger, I used to say that I was just as much a black nationalist as a white nationalist. Ignoring the political and practical obstacles, I used to support giving a chunk of American territory over which African-Americans would exercise exclusive sovereignty.
The biggest issue on which I've changed my mind about is reparations. I support them while still being very pessimistic about their utility.
Everything this country is getting is in equal measure to everything you guys have demonstrated on this thread.
You will never learn.
I feel comfortable in Althouse’s comments.
Crack should love being outnumbered here.
It allows him to pretend to speak for all Black folk.
And even when no one's "attacking" him, he complains about being ignored.
It's his own pathology.
@Kevin:
In life you can be equal or special.
But you can’t have it both ways.
Where do special privileges for the disabled fit into this scheme?
NYT blaming the victim instead of school administrators and the teacher’s union.
It's going to be hard to find any of those 81 million people who supposedly voted for Grampa Joe in a month or two.
He's doing such a great job of uniting us. pretty soon just about everyone will agree that he's a dishonest, not particularly bright hack politico who no longer has a fastball and isn't sure which way the plate is.
Ken B is a ________.
A. Knob
B. Yohan [X]
C. Hoser
@walter:
Crack should love being outnumbered here.
It allows him to pretend to speak for all Black folk.
And even when no one's "attacking" him, he complains about being ignored.
It's his own pathology.
In his defense, he is raising interesting and provocative ideas that are worth engaging in but is getting mostly pat dismissals in response. I do agree, though, that he has a tendency towards melodramatic self-pity. But hell, I have a tendency towards smug self-assurance. Nobody's perfect.
"Insurrection" at the Capitol, intransigent teacher's unions..process as punishment investigations..
Sconnies were so ahead of the times.
wildswan said...
"OK. Crack, I don't know what you mean. To me Oprah is (was) a TV star on daytime TV. She told everyone they were fine, whatever they did - I think that's what it was. But what is there to attack?"
All, the people she's promoted who either killed, raped or maimed people? The spreading of conspiracy theories and misinformation? WHY DO NONE OF YOU KNOW THIS STUFF?
"Perhaps (based on past posts) you see her as a particularly successful apostle of New Ageiness?"
Again: we live in a time when misinformation, conspiracy theories, cults, etc. are clearly seen as a problem - but the woman who promoted them for 30 years is not. How does that happen?
"Tolkien wrote the whole Lord of the Rings as a response to New Age back in his time. Did you ever form an opinion on those books?"
No, but I do wonder how they became so popular - and NewAge, too?
"Perhaps Oprah is sending two messages: one I hear which just sounds like pablum to me. The other is appealing to some strand of opinion like that which Tolkien and CS Lewis noticed."
She now owns her own production studio and is cranking out rewrites of history and y'all see nothing - it's AMAZING HOW BLIND PEOPLE CAN BE. You saw nothing when Obama ran with her - and that was after the Quacks Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil and Deepak Chopra. I sincerely can't imagine how much more clueless you guys can be.
"And perhaps it's raging unchecked though I have to say I don't see it."
Andrew Brietbart told you you don't see it - AND YOU'RE STILL NOT EVEN LOOKING. You're so convinced of your own outlook, they get a free reign - with Oprah's studio, the black CNN (rap) television, movies, online features - while you guys discuss Mark Meadows' next move.
"Once somebody I was working with tried to tell me he could fly, (meaning he was a sorcerer I was told); and I just felt embarrassed that somebody would make such a ridiculous claim out loud."
Imagine it was your spouse - and you seriously can't talk them out of it - now what do you do? Just feel embarrassed?
"I realize you are a musician and don't want to read a book and relate your experiences to it. And if you put some chords together and say, "this is what Oprah is doing," I won't know what you've conveyed. Hmmm."
Nobody cares - that's the problem. People have been explaining what Oprah has been doing - and Bill Clinton's rapes - for 30 years.
You're all just conditioned - by the NewAge - to ignore it.
""Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government.""
Remove the word "Black" from the statement, it's superfluous.
wildswan said...
"I realize you are a musician and don't want to [write] a book and relate your experiences to it."
1) I don't think I can write a book.
2) I don't see books and writing changing anything. Ta Nehisi Coates is rich, but blacks are no better off. Glenn Reynolds makes money, but Joe Biden is still President. Do you see what I mean?
If writing changed anything I might reconsider, but y'all let pure hypocrisy go - like Meghan and Harry living here when they said they wouldn't - so I see no reason in doing shit.
Nothing matters anymore, thanks to you guys.
"But hell, I have a tendency towards smug self-assurance."
Really? I never noticed.
alanc709 said...
""Everything that has happened in this country just in the last year has proved that Black people have no reason to trust the government.""
Remove the word "Black" from the statement, it's superfluous.
It's not a statement worth mentioning, to me.
J. Farmer said...
"He has a tendency towards melodramatic self-pity."
I'm laying here, with no family, broken and broke (my industry is dead) covered in stab wounds and looking at a phone that hasn't rung in weeks - because I like Trump AND want reparations which makes me hated by EVERYBODY - and you guys think I'm filled with self-pity.
White people are both obtuse and cruel.
walter said...
"Crack should love being outnumbered here.
It allows him to pretend to speak for all Black folk."
I voted for Trump, you moron - I didn't even vote with other blacks, much less speak for them. I spend as much time talking them out of bullshit as you guys - butt they're smarter and less argumentative.
Why don't you guys admit you put your imaginings and assumptions ahead of reality before you speak?
J. Farmer said...
"For what it's worth, I take a lot of your points regarding the severing of ancestral ties, the challenges of ethnicity and nationalism, the crucial distinctions between voluntary and involuntary minorities, and the complexities of assimilating to American culture. One of the consequences of the left's overuse of the race card has been to drown out the kind of complex social relations that you describe."
You've got whole swaths of Americans, existing as corks in the ocean, in a nation demanding we be more than it's ever been to us.
Sorry to hear about your situation Crack. I hope things get better for you.
White people:
Screaming "DO AS WE SAY!" is going to change the whole dynamic of this country.
Well then don't do as we say...ignore us if it bothers you so much.
But shut the fuck up about it.
Sorry Crack,
You routinely do precisely what I depicted.
And it's a bit humorous to labeled argumentative by you ;)
I agree that being covered in stab wounds warrants change.
Perhaps get the hell outta Oakland.
Maybe embed at Oprah's studio and run some sabotage.
You guys get to sit on the sidelines, read Thomas Sowell, and say shit about blacks who beat each other up for "acting white".
I'm that person getting beat up, and having to live with THAT reality - which you and Thomas Sowell have NO answers for.
Your criticisms and comments are worthless to dealing with the reality of our lives.
Admitting your distrust of the government is a major red flag for domestic terrorism.
walter said...
"Perhaps get the hell outta Oakland"
I don't live in Oakland, you racist fuck.
Acting white, if you're black, is also a major red flag for domestic terrorism.
Take issue with New Age bullshit? Yup, red flag for domestic terrorism.
How would she know it's inordinate? Does she really have first hand information about how white, Hispanic and asian kids are faring with the closure? From what I hear in my family, not so well. One very social [mostly white] boy has become almost despondent not being able to attend school with other kids every day.
IMO, just as with the air traffic controllers during Reagan's Presidency, the teachers who refuse to go back to work need to be fired and replaced. Frankly, they couldn't do much worse with someone off the street.
Crack, I went over to watch the Patrice O’Neal video. 5:57 long. I managed about 2 minutes of it. I enjoy humor and funny things. The audience, largely black , kept laughing and laughing in that 2 minutes of absolutely unfunny monologue. So if I watch it to the end- will there actually be something funny? A worthwhile joke? Or maybe he’ll walk across the stage, see a banana peel, point it out, and carefully step over it into a hole.
Yup. People are lining up to teach inner-city kids, and have no disciplinary powers, can't expel, can't flunk..who wouldn't sign up for that sweet gig?
Gospace said...
"Crack, I went over to watch the Patrice O’Neal video. 5:57 long. I managed about 2 minutes of it. I enjoy humor and funny things. The audience, largely black , kept laughing and laughing in that 2 minutes of absolutely unfunny monologue."
I made a simple request: explain the joke.
You guys are too stupid for me to take seriously.
I honestly thought you wrote that here at some point.
Where do you live?
Sincerely,
Racist Fuck
Gospace said...
"I enjoy humor and funny things. "
I agree - there's not much funny about a nation that treats blacks and whites so differently - while it's whites insist it doesn't.
Wait..I enjoy Patrice O'Neal.
Don't I get some social credits for that?
Gospace said...
"I enjoy humor and funny things. "
I agree - there's not much funny about a nation that treats blacks and whites so differently - while it's whites insist it doesn't.
YOU GUYS CAN'T EVEN ENGAGE WITH IT - THAT'S HOW DETACHED FROM REALITY YOU ARE.
Black History Month began today.
Out of respect I'll try to find a Halle Berry movie to watch tonight.
"You guys get to sit on the sidelines, read Thomas Sowell, and say shit about blacks who beat each other up for "acting white"."
We do say shit...it's just not the shit you want to hear.
So hears more hit you don't want to hear.
After decades and a trillion dollars trying to "help" American blacks and it's apparently not enough...you know why Crack? Because blacks do little, if anything, to help themselves and deal with blacks who beat up other blacks for being white except demand more stuff?
Fix yourselves. You're the only ones who can.
Gospace said...
"The audience, largely black , kept laughing and laughing in that 2 minutes of absolutely unfunny monologue."
"The audience, largely black , KNOWS WHITES ARE RACIST AND THAT TRUTH IS HILARIOUS - TO BLACKS."
Whites see nothing - it's not even funny.
BobJustBob said...
"After decades and a trillion dollars trying to "help" American blacks and it's apparently not enough...you know why Crack? Because blacks do little, if anything, to help themselves"
Yeah, some have this little niggling feeling that WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE. That makes ther next move difficult.
I don't even know why you guys talk - I know you hate us. Most blacks know you hate us. Your hatred comes through with every word.
You are what you are, and you ain't shit nobody likes.
Every time I come on this blog it's the same thing - everything's cool until I show an allegiance for my people like the Irish, or Italians or anyone else would.
That is forbidden by white people - I must side with them against my own people.
You're morons.
@The Crack Emcee:
I'm laying here, with no family, broken and broke (my industry is dead) covered in stab wounds and looking at a phone that hasn't rung in weeks - because I like Trump AND want reparations which makes me hated by EVERYBODY - and you guys think I'm filled with self-pity.
Oh play me the world's smallest violin. I trudge through the depths of human cruelty and depravity towards one another on a daily basis, so save me your sad sack whinging. I don't know who "you guys" are, but I most certainly think you're filled with self-pity.
White people are both obtuse and cruel.
Black people exist at that terrible intersection of high self-esteem and low ability.
You've got whole swaths of Americans, existing as corks in the ocean, in a nation demanding we be more than it's ever been to us.
I think there's a lot of truth in that statement. On the other hand, as Senator Jay Billington Bulworth noted, "I mean - come on! You can have a Billion Man March! If you don't put down that malt liquor and chicken wings, and get behind someone other than a running back who stabs his wife, you're NEVER gonna get rid of somebody like me!"
I accept that social structures play a role in outcomes, but so does agency. That said, what are a couple of social changes that you think would be most efficacious in improving the black condition?
Not only must I side with whites, but I must do it - AFTER THEY SHOW ME HOW EASILY THEY'LL BETRAY SOMEONE WHO GOES ON THEIR SIDE.
You're evil morons.
I don't even know why talk to you - I know you hate us. Most whites know you hate us. Your hatred comes through with every word.
This is fun.
Crack you're just a hate filled racist who seems to be angry because whites don't give a fuck about your shitty life...why should we.
Personally I'd love blacks to be no more fucked up then we are.
That is forbidden by white people - I must side with them against my own people.
You're morons.
Anglo-Americans are just now beginning to realize what life has an ethnic group has in store for them. It's easy not to think of yourself as an ethnic group when your culture pervades and predominates.
Have you ever read Albert Murray's The Omni-Americans? I think he's essentially right that American culture is a creole culture, but I don't think that fact gets you as far as Murray believes it should.
J. Farmer said...
"Oh play me the world's smallest violin. I trudge through the depths of human cruelty and depravity towards one another on a daily basis, so save me your sad sack whinging."
I repeat: I saw more dead bodies before I left elementary school than most people see in a lifetime. I was seven when a white hot bike chain was dropped on my bare back. I was 15 when I was hit in the stomach with a table leg - while sleeping - only to catch a sock to the jew when I woke up. That was because I didn't listen to KISS. I got beat down by a gang because I listened to Led Zeppelin.
Now - that's a few scenes from before adulthood - give me your experience that compares.
BobJustBob,
You're an idiot.
We're done.
The Crack Emcee said...
Not only must I side with whites, but I must do it - AFTER THEY SHOW ME HOW EASILY THEY'LL BETRAY SOMEONE WHO GOES ON THEIR SIDE.
You're evil morons.
Crack is right.
You people need to stop saying stupid shit like there is no racism.
Most of you would grow up as criminals if you had a single parent growing up in a democrat run shit hole with a completely failed schools that teach violence and regression.
Most of us are coddled and pampered. I didn't know what the world was really like until I went out and saw it.
It doesn't hurt anything to admit Crack has a point. Black people are treated like shit. Poor white people are treated like shit. A lot of people are treated like shit.
Stop with the sneering and get involved in pushing school choice and police reform.
The idea no one but conservatives can know true pain is a joke.
Y'all don't know shit.
The only thing I'm proud of is, you faggots wouldn't have made it.
I know that.
Here's an option.
Hope that helps.
Now - that's a few scenes from before adulthood - give me your experience that compares.
One time, at band camp...
Achilles said...
Black people are treated like shit. Poor white people are treated like shit. A lot of people are treated like shit.
There's lots of white guys who know how to be good Americans - y'all ain't it.
BobJustBob said...
We do say shit...it's just not the shit you want to hear.
So hears more hit you don't want to hear.
And other people say shit you don't want to hear.
After decades and a trillion dollars trying to "help" American blacks and it's apparently not enough...you know why Crack? Because blacks do little, if anything, to help themselves and deal with blacks who beat up other blacks for being white except demand more stuff?
This is stupid. Almost all of those Trillions went to bureaucrats. At most 30% made it out to people in the form of direct payments and it was delivered in ways that were designed to destroy the nuclear family and the ability to work.
Fix yourselves. You're the only ones who can.
Pretty soon you are going to get the fascist boot. You are getting it right now. Your racist crap is just aiding the people that are trying to divide us.
I am pretty sure you are a leftist trying to make Trump supporters look racist. Your post are just that stupid.
Seriously, Crack, you need to lighten up.
It would be good for you.
Really, y'all are just BAD AMERICANS.
I'm out.
Y'all teach mme to hate white people EVERY TIME I come here.
Crack
I'm sorry about your tough times. People should buy your music. Every time you post after you make your point you should put your blog address and suggest we go over there and listen to song X which says it better than words. Over there keep explaining how to buy songs. People like me take forever to notice things outside the literary tradition.
Your point about how everything is being rewritten - I do understand that is happening. I didn't realize how much Oprah was financing. I guess what you're saying there is that we think she's over but she's pouring her millions into re-writing history. Do you know the name of her company? Or has anyone looked into her point of view?
Tolkien was against the New Age. He saw it as a return to paganism but he was trying to draw those who were attracted by the New Age into an understanding that whatever the age there is a right and a wrong. So he had New Age elements, themes from paganism past, which he wove into a story parallel to Christianity - not it, not opposed to it. I'm talking about the book - the movie was New Age.
In the Lord of the Rings Sauron organizes and rises and nobody does anything. Some deny, some sell out, some say it's too far away to matter. The point we understand from the author is that everyone is equally threatened but their old wars and harms separate them and Sauron works to make it worse. All the same "one ring to rule them all/And in the darkness bind them." Some of them get it. They go to war. Aragorn says:
"Sons of Gondor! Of Rohan! My brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me! A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the age of Men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand! Men of the West!"
Tolkien was writing of our time and there are millions, millions who have read that book and understand the issue. So there millions with you - only you have a new insight into a new variant. If you could explain how Oprah is a variant version of the New Age people would get it. And if you could explain that then we could work against it. It might be more dynamic than trying to get the schools to re-open or it might be the little thing off to the side that you have to do to get the schools open.
Rabel said...
"Seriously, Crack, you need to lighten up."
Seriously, Rabel, you need to shut-the-fuck-up and learn to leave other people alone because - surprise - there's NOTHING to suggest you're worth listening to.
Achilles"
Nothing I said was racists.
As to the money spent I agree with you completely...it's why I claim that blacks have to help themselves.
Is it really racists telling them that them need to help themselves?
This isn't 50's Alabama. There is a template that can be followed to a normal life and blacks have access to it if they wanted to...but blacks call it acting white.
If calling me a Leftist makes it easier for you to ignore what I say...well good for you.
None of this is racists and if you believe it is all I can say is you're wrong.
Hi Crack! I am thinking to organize an Althouse Appreciation Picnic in Madison this summer. Would you like to be the MC? As you are one of the commentariat that I am most interested to meet, I will be happy to cover your travel expenses. What do you say?
"Seriously, Crack, you need to lighten up."
Explain the joke!
They say they're protecting the "minorities"... https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/01/stanford-doctor-covid-lockdowns-were-an-overreaction-to-protect-the-rich/
Achilles:
I also anxiously await you lecturing Crack about the racist shit he stirs.
Just wait a minute here... a smaller government? That is what those old white guys that founded this country were determined to produce. Who blew that idea out the ass?
BumbleBee 0 7:22
All things and all roads are to make democrat elites richer and more powerful.
The Crack Emcee said...
There's lots of white guys who know how to be good Americans - y'all ain't it.
Y'all ain't special either.
If you walk down the street and you see an asshole he's an asshole.
If you walk down the street and everyone's an asshole your the asshole.
There are people who are sympathetic Crack.
You can't make yourself a martyr. Other people have to do that. The only thing you have absolute control over is the ability to make everyone else hate you.
BobJustBob said...
Achilles"
Nothing I said was racists.
As to the money spent I agree with you completely...it's why I claim that blacks have to help themselves.
Is it really racists telling them that them need to help themselves?
This isn't 50's Alabama. There is a template that can be followed to a normal life and blacks have access to it if they wanted to...but blacks call it acting white.
If calling me a Leftist makes it easier for you to ignore what I say...well good for you.
None of this is racists and if you believe it is all I can say is you're wrong.
All you are doing is comparing apples and oranges.
If you and all of your white friends grew up in the same circumstances as Crack and his friends then I think statistics would even up real fast as far as crime and dropout rates and murder rates.
Then you would just have people telling you to help yourselves.
Out of respect I'll try to find a Halle Berry movie to watch tonight.
I recommend the one in which she shows her tits.
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