Too much of people’s vision of reality is skewed by the news media. Seriously, they need to get out of their bubbles and visit with the proles to find it. And it's not only the USA. The entire world is at the mercy of an intentionally distorted view of life.
Ran across this earlier today. It's an Israeli story, but applicable worldwide -
COVID-19: Here’s why global travel is unlikely to resume ‘till 2024 HEALTH AFFAIRS: Vaccination doesn’t equal liberation as millions of Israelis have “given a shoulder” to make the country safer, it is becoming more apparent that even if the entire Israeli population is immunized, this will not mean life will return to its 2019 reality. This will be especially true when it comes to opening the skies and resuming international travel in any significant quantity or of any quality. To do that, “we need to immunize all countries of the world,” explained Lancet editor-in-chief Richard Horton to The Jerusalem Post. “To reach herd immunity, about two-thirds of the world population – four billion to five billion people – need to be vaccinated. Each person has to have two doses – that is 10 billion doses of the vaccine.” As such, the pandemic will not be solved by spring 2021, health experts said. It will not be over in 2022. And according to the most optimistic predictions, the skies will only really begin to open, and travel and tourism will resume, sometime between 2023 and 2024.
They are determined that the prison will never end. No release. No parole. Just one indignity and violation after another.
"As such, the pandemic will not be solved by spring 2021, health experts said. It will not be over in 2022. And according to the most optimistic predictions, the skies will only really begin to open, and travel and tourism will resume, sometime between 2023 and 2024."
Fox News Media has canceled “Lou Dobbs Tonight,”a day after voting software company Smartmatic filed a $2.7 billion defamation suit against Fox News and three of its hosts — Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo and Jeanine Pirro. The company claims the hosts perpetuated lies and disinformation about Smartmatic’s role in the election, damaging its business and reputation.
It would seem that Faux News has just confirmed that the cable networks host did indeed lie, so Bartiromo and Judge Jeanine must also be liars.
The Introduction section of the lawsuit begins with this sentence:
"The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States. The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed. These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable."
IN: The election was rigged, but in a good, smart, upper-middle-class Wine Aunt way.
Any questions?
I don't know what or who "Wine Aunt" is, but the rest fits.
Time magazine, of all places, has published an article claiming that there was a conspiracy to down Trump's hopes of staying in office. They aren't saying the election was stolen, but they admit that Big Tech, the Democrats, the media, and elements of corporate America, the bureaucracy and the left got together to ensure that Biden took office after the election. Or at least that seems to be what it's about. I didn't read it. It's only a matter of time before the "it wasn't stolen" part gets called into question. If Trump was that much of a threat and if a massive coalition could be mobilized against him after the election, how much could have been orchestrated before and during election week?
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Wine Aunt - A woman who claims to be liberal and open minded, but it is authoritarian, judgmental, and prone to shutting out any opinion that differs than her worldview. Often, has no children or just one, but nevertheless adopts a matronly status because of the authority motherhood lends her voice.
Very common in suburbia. Cousin Karen takes after her.
Why 2/3 of the world? Vaccinate the vulnerable. That saves 95% of the deaths. Now that President Trump has been removed, hydroxychloroquine is available for prophylactic use. Ivermectin is available for treatment. Dr's are free to do their job, without the wacko left going wild.
iowan2, Because the issue is never the issue for totalitarians. The lockdowns and the masks are about punishment, about humiliation, about showing the untermenschen exactly how subhuman they are.
If they would vaccinate the older people this pandemic would be no more deadly than the flu. And there are fewer older people so they could all be vaccinated relatively quickly. Moreover, a process for similar vaccines has been developed. This exit from the crisis was developed by by Trump's policies. Ignoring the vaccine or misapplying the vaccine is being done by others. Around the world public health people are refusing to see and act on the facts about who dies from covid. They may tell themselves they're fighting racism but they're keeping a pandemic going by the way they are distributing the vaccine. And the black community is hardest hit by this continuing refusal to vaccinate the elderly first. Why is this happening? It it true that Black Lives Matter to the people refusing to vaccinate the black elderly?
Where I live I can do most anything I want. To get in to retail establishments I must wear a mask, any mask, and enforcement of wearing it properly is, to be kind, lax. I could and would travel to see my customers and business prospects but my company won't let me and theirs won't let them. I have no young children so working from home is functional, efficient even. Business volume is reduced. With only a couple more years to go until I retire to something else it is quite likely I will never resume pre-Covid levels of business travel. My company is quite pleased to save the $10k-$15k per month I used to spend.
I want to resume visiting with friends, going to dinners and get togethers. Sadly too many of my friends and family are overly cautious about the Covid scare. Must say it feels very much like the Abilene Paradox: everyone thinks everyone else is concerned and needs to be protected.
Back to woodworking, it gives me something to do, is satisfying, even the failures, and from it I derive a sense of purpose.
The people refusing to vaccinate the black elderly or non-elderly is the black population itself.
I've characterized the election as national suicide before. But it is quite true. The left pushed and pushed the anti-vax narrative because Trump. And many people bought into it, particularly the minority communities. The same people who voted against Trump and for Biden. They voted for their own irrational fears and antagonisms and hates.
Wine Aunt - A woman who claims to be liberal and open minded, but it is authoritarian, judgmental, and prone to shutting out any opinion that differs than her worldview. Often, has no children or just one, but nevertheless adopts a matronly status because of the authority motherhood lends her voice.
“If they would vaccinate the older people this pandemic would be no more deadly than the flu.”
People in the 1B group are now eligible for a vaccine. The hold up is having enough vaccine to go around in this age group, people over age 65. My private clinic and my Waukesha County health department have notified me they will contact me when they have enough vaccine for me to get the vaccine. Waukesha County will also be opening the Waukesha County Fair grounds and separate county clinics in the coming weeks for people in the over 65 age group. No one is purposefully withholding vaccine from older people.
Just finished Series 1 of The Fall. Do I want to watch Series 2?
My impression was that the series, like most television, falls off after a while, but I don't know if that happens in season 2 or only in season 3. I think you need the second season to wrap up the first and the third is just an add-on. But I really hate British Gillian Anderson, so I'm biased. Not so crazy about this "Series" thing either.
I'm Not Sure said... "As such, the pandemic will not be solved by spring 2021, health experts said. It will not be over in 2022. And according to the most optimistic predictions, the skies will only really begin to open, and travel and tourism will resume, sometime between 2023 and 2024."
After a week of trying (and making a few mistakes/missed opportunities), I think Hubby and I will finally be able to access one of our state's mega sites this weekend (after tons of research as to when the site opens). I took a look at air fares (business class) to Europe a few days ago - I think the skies will be just fine because the price is about 25% of what it was 5 years ago (when I cashed in every bloody mile earned).
Young people don't die from covid. The stats show that.
Young people don't transmit the illness to their parents. If the did we would see the death rates-per-age-group to rise in at least a straight line. We don't.
EVERYWHERE, people over 65, and especially people over 75, die from covid at a high rate.
People 18 and under do not. WHY GIVE THE VACCINE TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT DIE, RATHER THAN TO PEOPLE WHO DO?”
Excuse me? What are you ranting about? I clearly said that I’m in favor of older people getting the vaccine.
Inga said... “If they would vaccinate the older people this pandemic would be no more deadly than the flu.”
People in the 1B group are now eligible for a vaccine. The hold up is having enough vaccine to go around in this age group, people over age 65. My private clinic and my Waukesha County health department have notified me they will contact me when they have enough vaccine for me to get the vaccine. Waukesha County will also be opening the Waukesha County Fair grounds and separate county clinics in the coming weeks for people in the over 65 age group. No one is purposefully withholding vaccine from older people. ******************
Oh for FUCK's sake!
Young people don't die from covid. The stats show that.
Young people don't transmit the illness to their parents. If the did we would see the death rates-per-age-group to rise in at least a straight line. We don't.
EVERYWHERE, people over 65, and especially people over 75, die from covid at a high rate. People 18 and under do not.
WHY PREFERENTIALLY GIVE THE VACCINE TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT DIE, RATHER THAN TO PEOPLE WHO DO?
Inga has the brain power of a paramecium...a Special Needs paramecium.
Well, Time Magazine admitted that the left rigged the election, but it was for the greater good, so...there’s that. https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
Thursday evening I attended a Zoom book club hosted by a library in New Jersey. The featured book was "Forget Russia" and the author, Lisa Williams, participated. The Zoom format made for a livelier book club meeting than most club meetings I've attended in person. The online format meant there were participants from lots of different places. Most of social events I've attended via Zoom have been pale imitations of what the events would have been in person, but this was an improvement. I hope the library does it again, and I hope the idea catches on.
The book ia an autobiographical novel about four generations of Russian Jews. The author shared some of the research she did before writing the book. She also shared a lot of resources which really enhanced the novel. She told stories of Americans who were lured to the Soviet Union with promises of a better life under communism during the Great Depression and how they found themselves trapped there when the visions of utopia turned out not to be reality. While the meeting never got political, there were a lot of parallels one could draw with where we are today even if no one there wanted to point it out. It's a fascinating story about women, but from thw number of men who participated in the group, not chicklit.
Psst! Has Prof called roll today? I played hookey and haven't done the readings.
I saw enough of Steyn on TCN tonight to make me quite certain that we are doomed. Tout le monde (those that have incentive to care, anyway) are watching an entire branch of our government go through hysterics over unruly doofuses.
My wife is monitoring the age eligibility for the vacc in Shelby Co and it's already dropped to 70 . . . Every COVID news story is of confusion about testing, vaccination, immunity, and in fact every facet of the crud except one-- that we'll probably never really understand where the darn stuff came from and should stop worrying about it and get the shot. Shots. Tests. More shots. M&SD are now givens.
Narr I'm beginning to think the Age of Easy Travel is over for good
"To reach herd immunity, about two-thirds of the world population – four billion to five billion people – need to be vaccinated."
Not vaccinated, but rather immune or treated to limit viral viability. Not two-thirds, a theoretical limit based on plausible assumptions, but community immunity will be reached when viral contagion is suppressed (i.e. observed), never extinguished, through denial of safe sanctuaries for the virus to fester and progress.
The reason the client gave for requiring an in person meet? They wanted to be able to see me sweat, should I sweat. Sweat I did, however as there were 90 people there to hear me in a room that would have held 20 comfortably. Another so not COVID detail.
Inga said... The 1B vaccine group are people over age 65, just in case some folks are confused.
Half the people in this state who have been vaccinated are under 65. IA and IB includes Frontline health care personnel Residents in skilled nursing and long-term care facilities Police and fire personnel, correctional staff Adults ages 65 and over
32% of the covid deaths are in the 80 to 89 age group. There's only 236,000 people in this group and there have been 469,000 people who have got at least one shot. So the entire 80 to 89 age group could have been vaccinated leading to a sharp drop in the death rate. Instead all sorts of people not at risk of death are being vaccinated and those most at risk - the elderly blacks above all- are as group only being vaccinated slowly and the death rate stays up. Then the restrictions stay in place. And these restrictions are devastating the economy. Hitting the blacks hardest. Schools could open and closed schools are awful for children. Hitting the blacks hardest. The black community voted for Biden in Wisconsin and look how they are treated. Like to hear an explanation. I need a laugh.
My wife and I have been here at our GA home since before Thanksgiving. GA began giving vaccine to 65 and over in mid-Jan. We got our first dose of Pfizer on Tue Jan 12 and we got our second dose this past Tue, Feb 2. I have had no side effects either time, just a slight pain in my arm that ended in less than a day, much like my annual flu shot. My wife had no issues with the first dose, but on the second she felt a little achy on Wed/Thu and had a slight fever. She is OK today. By next week we should be at 95% effectiveness. Cases here in Forsyth County have gone done significantly, as they have for GA overall. Don't know if that is because of the vaccine or just the normal progression of the virus.
At my other home in Sullivan Co, in NE TN, they are still at 70 and above for vaccines, but that county has an average population about 12-15 years older than here in GA, so many more people in that age cohort to vaccinate, They have been doing them via drive-thru at Bristol Motor Speedway first-come/first-served, but wait times in line in your car have been long. They start next week at the civic auditorium in Kingsport by appointment so that should speed things up more. We are glad we decided not to go back up there, they still would not be to us yet, though I turn 70 in 10 days and my wife turns 70 in March. Daily cases are down dramatically in the county, but again not sure if that is vaccine or just progression of the virus.
Inga said... “If they would vaccinate the older people this pandemic would be no more deadly than the flu.”
I've been saying since March, we should have been protecting the vulnerable. Not locking down the whole Nation. Fauci disagreed. Just Today Fauci said masks are going to be required through the fall. He declined to explain why. Because he won't reveal the highly classified "true goal"
“Half the people in this state who have been vaccinated are under 65. IA and IB includes Frontline health care personnel Residents in skilled nursing and long-term care facilities Police and fire personnel, correctional staff Adults ages 65 and over”
These are at risk people. These are also healthcare workers and public safety officers who can spread the virus to the people they take care of. Stopping the spread of Covid is an important goal too, no? I’m not going to begrudge at risk workers of the vaccine. I’m not sure what you think a better plan would be, to not vaccinate healthcare workers? That seems counterproductive.
Wildswan, as far as elderly black Americans, are you saying they are not being offered the vaccine in the same numbers that white elderly are? Also there is the issue of the black community refusing the vaccine in higher numbers.
natatomic said..."Well, Time Magazine admitted that the left rigged the election, but it was for the greater good, so...there’s that."
During one of his morning livestreams several weeks ago Scott Adams predicted a story like this would come out but probably later in 2021. He said it would be almost like this, that they would actually take pride in what they had done, like it was the right thing to do. How prescient. I have only skimmed it and read a couple of articles about it, I will probably read it in full over coffee in the morning. No, this is not democracy.
I found it somewhat humorous to see a little while ago that now that Claudia Tenney has won the last undecided House set in NY the infamous Marc Elias is now coming out claiming the election was stolen from the Democrat because of the corrupt Dominion voting machine mis-counting the votes. This shit will never end.
I just read that David Duchovny also writes novels. I wonder if his books are better than Ethan Hawke's. At the Golden Globes they should have an award for the best novel written by a leading man.... I think a fair number of actors have turned their hand at writing fiction. I can't think of any who wrote something that was a big best seller or became a recognized classic. ...Well, Shakespeare. Shakespeare set the bar pretty high for actor-writers. To be fair, he didn't have leading man looks, so it's good that he had the writing to fall back on.
Another point is that herd immunity will be reached by a combination of vaccination and getting covid but WHO and others talk about immunity in terms of vaccination alone. In Wisconsin about 469,000 had been vaccinated by Feb. 4 and 500,000 had had covid. That's 1 million immune in a population of 5.8 million. So about 1 in 5 people in Wisconsin are immune. In the US 26 million people have had covid and 38.5 million have been vaccinated. So about 64 million are immune. There are 330 million people in the US so about 19% or again about 1 in 5 are now immune.
All the vaccinations are due to the efforts of the Republican President the Democrats are putting on trial tomorrow. If that Republican had done drugs, refused to support his children and taken money from sketchy oligarchs he'd be welcome in the Democrat-run White House. That's the difference between the parties these days.
“In Washington, D.C, a digital divide is already evident, said Dr. Jessica Boyd, the chief medical officer of Unity Health Care, which runs several community health centers. After the city opened vaccine appointments to those 65 and older, slots were gone in a day. And Boyd’s staffers couldn’t get eligible patients into the system that fast. Most of those patients don’t have easy access to the internet or need technical assistance.
“If we’re going to solve the issues of inequity, we need to think differently,” Boyd said.”
You are so full of shit, Inga. My wife is UC nursing faculty with no clinical practice and yet she has received a complete course of vaccine to cover full-time zoom exposure. China protects their own.
Inga said... Wildswan, as far as elderly black Americans, are you saying they are not being offered the vaccine in the same numbers that white elderly are? Also there is the issue of the black community refusing the vaccine in higher numbers.
I'm saying that all those over eighty should have gotten the vaccine first as this would have lowered the death rate at once by 32%. When that rate goes down the state can re-open. It's also true that elderly blacks are disproportionately likely to die of covid. So giving the vaccine to everyone over 80 (which could have been done by now) would help end the disproportionate death toll among blacks. But I don't see anyone raising the issue. I also don't see a big push to overcome the fear of the vaccine in the black community. I don't see black leaders on TV getting the shot. Black Lives Matter. Fight for those lives. I don't see Democrats doing that. I see them fighting me.
Immunity doesn’t matter. The idiots will jabber on about how somehow you can transmit the plague after vaccination to scare enough Karens (or support their delusions of importance) to keep the slave states (California Illinois New York etc) locked down.
The idea that an effectively immune person can transmit a virus is so stupid it literally pains me to hear those assholes say it.
I remember i read the life of alejandro mayta when life was imitating art in the early 90s, and i took a crack at conversation in the cathedral, vargas llosas debut
What should happen is we vaccinate healthcare workers who deal with patients. Then the vulnerable, which means mostly the old, or those with known aggravating conditions such as diabetes. The low risk can wait.
People forget the real goal of countermeasures. The real goal is to prevent *serious* cases. If a healthy person gets a mild case that is not a big problem.
The teachers want to get special treatment so they don’t get mild cases, while vulnerable people have to wait.
It’s too low, yes, but it’s an improvement and I’m pretty sure people in the black community haven't given up on increasing those numbers. There’s an across the board effort to get everyone vaccinated.
"Cases here in Forsyth County have gone done significantly, as they have for GA overall. Don't know if that is because of the vaccine or just the normal progression of the virus."
The drop has nothing to do with the vaccine rollout- cases peaked in the US on January 11th and started dropping 2 days later, long before even 1% of the population had gotten the first shot. If you extrapolate out, it is likely that over half the population has been exposed to the virus and have developed IgG antibodies and/or have a natural resistance to such viruses, likely cross immunity from previous coroviruses. Once you reach that high level of immunity, cases stop increasing and drop rapidly. Additionally, flu viruses follow the same Winter pattern- peaking in mid- January, so there is seasonality, too.
I think the vaccines will be effective, even if late and of minimal actual impact, however, I doubt they will remain effective over time. COVID and its progeny will be with us from now on, taking lives on a constant basis just like influenza does despite our having developed over a hundred different vaccines for flu.
As for whether or not the governments will let up on their panic- I don't know, but at a certain point the feeling of power becomes an opiod of a kind. I suspect the usual suspects will be hyping every new strain of COVID and flu from now on- it is simply a money-maker for too many powerful people.
Inga said "There’s an across the board effort to get everyone vaccinated."
There's no real effort being made by public figures to overcome the fear of the vaccine in the black community. There's just pamphlets and statements. I've heard people on the radio saying it's quite understandable and very natural to refuse the vaccine because the black community doesn't trust the doctors. A deep fear needs hard work to overcome it. Black Lives Matter. Do the work and stop the babble.
"In the US 26 million people have had covid and 38.5 million have been vaccinated. So about 64 million are immune. There are 330 million people in the US so about 19% or again about 1 in 5 are now immune."
The number of immune is far higher than 1 in 5. It is practically impossible that we actually tested even 1/5 of the people infected by COVID, and it is very likely that no more than 2/3 of the population was even capable of being infected by COVID in the first place. If I had estimate, at least 200 million people are immune or effectively immune already.
Hank Aaron did his vaccination publically in order to allay fear of the vaccine inside the black communities- he even said so on video, so it might have worked.
That should have been "opioid". Somewhere in my brain there is a block preventing me from putting three vowels in a row inside a word. I feel that block every single time I have to write the word beautiful, or plateau, or sequoia (which causes me pain).
Hot Air NY Times Fires Science Writer Who Used The N-Word Back In 2019 (Update) JOHN SEXTON Posted at 7:16 pm on February 5, 2021
'...But obviously standards have changed and now any use of the word is grounds for termination. It appears the Times decided on this new standard under duress. Yesterday the Daily Beast reported Times’ staffers had sent an angry letter demanding consequences for McNeil.
In the Wednesday afternoon letter, signed by more than 150 staffers and addressed to executive editor Dean Baquet along with other top members of the Times masthead, employees expressed feeling “deeply disturbed” by the paper’s handling of the allegations, which thus far included a statement declaring McNeil had been “disciplined.”…
“We, his colleagues, feel disrespected by his actions,” the letter said. “The company has a responsibility to take that experience seriously.”...'
ErikWemple @ErikWemple
Donald McNeil, the NYT science reporter who has been front-and-center on covid, has resigned from the paper over remarks he made on an educational trip to Peru with students in 2019.
I did the weekly shopping today at the local Food City. I wasn't the only person in there today without a mask- mask usage is down significantly. When I went last Friday, I was the only person in the store without a mask. Today only about 80% of the people were masked. Next week it might be down to 50%.
‘“This is really about saving our lives," said Anita Jenkins, CEO of Howard University Hospital, in Washington, D.C. "Too many of us have died."
Howard created a public service announcement about the vaccines aimed at Black Americans. Across the country, academic medical professors and leaders and public health scholars are engaged in advocacy, outreach and research on the issue of vaccine hesitancy. A research initiative at the City University of New York Graduate School of Public Health & Health Policy, CONVINCE USA, is seeking to better understand and address public concerns about COVID-19 in order to better inform the development of communication and outreach strategies.”
I posted in the other thread the Sherrod Asshole Brown tweet were he yelled at Rand Paul for not wearing a mask on the Senate floor, even though Paul had a well publicized bout and recovery from COVID. Paul isn't endangering anyone by not wearing a mask, not even himself.
They mean for the masks to be more or less permanent. It really is a boot on the face sort of thing- an act of domination. I refuse to comply any longer. I am done.
Cicero never got a triumph. He got some lesser thing, a supplicatio. Not even an ovation. Bummer.
Yeah, I know. One history painted him as a kind of pathetic figure sitting with his lictors outside of the City after his governorship hoping to be voted a Triumph while things everywhere were falling apart.
I should have phrased it better, and out of the list of things he did get, but that was one of the things he wanted more than his library and garden.
Why isn't Gwen Moore on TV and radio and on the news talking up the vaccine. What about Lieutenant Governor Mandela. What's he doing. What about sports figures? They don't have an intuitive understanding of their own community and what to say? They're waiting till some professors in NYC finish a research project? Then these Wisconsin figures will apply for a grant for project on overcoming vaccine fear? That's what I mean by going through the motions. Black Lives Matter. The Dems should be effective on getting the vaccine out, not just able to cite research and express good intentions.
Bean extravaganza tomorrow. Soaking them tonight. Tomorrow I make two batches, one no onion low salt. That’s for the in laws. Ours will be yummier.
I will precook the beans in beef stock in the instant pot, and them do two batches in Dutch ovens, at 300 for many hours.
Last year at the I had to cook for three weeks for a bunch with no onion, no salt, no dairy, no hot spices. I was tempted to just serve alfalfa. We ate a lot of burgers.
I was sad to see Christopher Plummer died. Great character actor- one of the very best. The first film I remember seeing in which he acted was, unsurprisingly, The Sound of Music, when I was around 8 or 9 years old. The last movie that I saw in which he appeared was The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. He had a great role in the Spike Lee film Inside Man which I think of every time I see George Soros' name.
However, my best memory of him is as the villain in Dreamscape, a movie that came out the Summer after I graduated from high school, and was a must see film for myself and my friends- we saw it 3 times the weekend it came out, and just a couple of weeks before I went off to college.
No, dumbass, I wasn't saying that last year you lying cretin. I wrote that the people infected was between 5 and 20 times the confirmed positives. I also wrote that it was likely that 1/4 to 1/2 of the population wouldn't get sick even if you injected the virus directly into them because of cross immunity with other coronaviruses.
Why do you constantly lie, Ken? I can't figure this out- you seemed a decent person at one time. Has being completely wrong about the effectiveness of shutdowns and lockdowns and masking corrupted your sense of honor?
Seriously, Ken, did you get anything right as far as optimal policy response. I can't think of a single recommendation that you made that had any beneficial effect on COVID's progress. Not a single one. If we had followed your advice, we would be eating the pets today rather than having just 6.3% unemployment.
Speak up for yourself, Ken- what did you get right about COVID? I have made my case multiple times in response to you, along with what I got hilariously wrong (the 7500 COVID deaths by the end of the year in the US).
I have a nice fire in the fireplace, enough food and drink, and Nor the Cat (who I got from the humane society four weeks ago) is sleeping at the end of the couch. A good night.
Blogger Yancey Ward said... I posted in the other thread the Sherrod Asshole Brown tweet were he yelled at Rand Paul for not wearing a mask on the Senate floor, even though Paul had a well publicized bout and recovery from COVID. Paul isn't endangering anyone by not wearing a mask, not even himself.
Ophthalmologist Rand Paul has forgotten the First Rule of the medical profession - "Do no harm."
A large study from the United Kingdom and another from China have discovered that protective antibodies against the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, decline rather quickly in people who have recovered from COVID-19. And then of course, those protected could continue to spew the the airborne virus.
That potentially makes the virus seasonal just like influenza.
Since neither owens washington or even foster would return the project lacked viability so owen was killed off screen by an relative of plummers character.
If Paul is endangering people by not wearing a mask, then we will be wearing masks for the rest of our lives, you dumb shit. You will have to wear mask even though you have been vaccinated, too, if Paul has to wear one now. It is as simple as that.
And, yes, it is a big fucking deal to have wear a mask everywhere you go.
For those who care, I decided to go back to last March to review some of the things I wrote about COVID then in these very threads- they were the posts made around the time the NCAA was cancelled and the country was in a complete panic. Almost everything I wrote about COVID holds up well in retrospect, in my not so humble opinion, but you don't have to believe me- you can read them for yourselves and let me know what I got wrong in those comments. I do know I vastly underestimated the number that would die of COVID- I have admitted that multiple times, so I own the mistake, I don't see where I got anything else wrong. Indeed, looking back, I gave the panickers way too much credit in hindsight.
Our fragile democracy was saved by Democratic election "protection," not by fraud. Credit must be given to those responsible.
“Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,” says Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy, a nonpartisan rule-of-law advocacy group. “But it’s massively important for the country to understand that it didn’t happen accidentally. The system didn’t work magically. Democracy is not self-executing.”
Hank Aaron did his vaccination publically in order to allay fear of the vaccine inside the black communities- he even said so on video, so it might have worked.
eah, then he died. Whitey killed him with vaccine so black man wouldn't take it, leaving more for racist whites.
Thinking of Christopher Plummer and watched a movie of his we hadn't seen: The Silent Partner (1978). Surprisingly good for a movie we hadn't heard of until today.
The Critical Drinker has done a retrospective a review of "The Hobbit" movies. Nothing surprising to me in it- they are the exact criticisms I had of the first installment, and why I never bothered watching the subsequent ones. As I have recounted here before, I went into the theater to see the first one not knowing it was going to be a trilogy- I thought it was a stand-alone movie, which is what it should have been given the material of the novel itself. It was when all the worthless filler had reach the 90 minute mark that I began to wonder how it could wrap up in 3 hours without basically deleting most of the second half of the book. My youngest sister whispered to me that it wouldn't be wrapping up, and I stated, "So, its in two parts?" She replied, "No, three." I knew right then I wasn't interested in seeing any more of it.
I, for one, am grateful for your work Yancy. It is one value point of many on this blog that keep folks coming back. Trolls gonna troll. Must have been weaned on dill pickles.
55 and also in Forsyth County. I have the privilege to work from home. But hubby goes to courts and prison — for work. So who knows.
A few years ago I had a flu so bad I thought I was going to die. I’d had the shot, but in August, and it was a year when they had guessed the wrong strain. I never experienced anything like it. Not even close, and I consider myself pretty resilient. It felt the way malaria is described. So we’ll probably see more of this.
Up here we’re lucky. It’s easy to social distance in most settings. I also don’t miss the sort of snow coming down elsewhere today. This is supposed to be the best region for surviving apocalyptic events at least in terms of natural resources, ample ground water, not too hot, not too cold, not coastal, no big mountains.
What should happen is we vaccinate healthcare workers who deal with patients. Then the vulnerable, which means mostly the old, or those with known aggravating conditions such as diabetes
That’s the nut of priority, isn’t it? Do we focus on the most vulnerable? or on the people most likely to catch and spread the virus? I’m of the opinion that we focus on the most vulnerable for 2 reasons:
1) They are the most likely to get sick and die. The fastest route to safely opening up is not through reducing cases, but through reducing hospitalizations and deaths.
2) They are an easily identifiable group. We know who is over 80, over 70, over 65. But the most likely to spread? People like to say healthcare workers, but that’s not true. It’s a bit of a fetish, in fact. The brave frontline worker. What about the Walmart cashier? What about the Uber driver? The food delivery person? It’s not at all a clearly defined group, and it’s definitely not just “healthcare workers.”
A large study from the United Kingdom and another from China have discovered that protective antibodies against the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, decline rather quickly in people who have recovered from COVID-19. Thanks for the clarification. I had assumed immunity declined "somewhat quickly" Always a joy to have Howard put the fine scientific point of how our immune system works.
And then of course, those protected could continue to spew the the airborne virus.
The level of contagion is directly affected by viral load. If the virus cant reproduce, passing on a critical level of viral load from an immunized individual is exceedingly difficult.
And of course that's what all those studies have proved conclusively. Like the one from ??? oh well, we know we should just shut up a follow the science like the Biden administration is by force teachers back into the classroom
“Hank Aaron did his vaccination publically in order to allay fear of the vaccine inside the black communities- he even said so on video, so it might have worked. “
“Yeah, then he died. Whitey killed him with vaccine so black man wouldn't take it, leaving more for racist whites.”
Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for my placebo or for Trump’s vaccination, then you ain't black. Come on, man!!!
Blogger heyboom said...@Yancey: You may not be as far off of your prediction as you think you are
Thanks for the link. I skimmed the article, and I have no doubt that the number of deaths from COVID is something that will be argued about for a long time. The problem with using all cause mortality to show that there was no increase in deaths in 2020 suffers from the problem that most people would have died soon anyway—they died of COVID today instead of something else 6 months from now. Those people won’t show up on this chart, but those 6 months were worth something to them and to their families. It matters. Plus, in the short term, the shutdowns save lives by reducing other communicable disease, traffic fatalities, etc.
There’s also the problem of died from COVID vs. died with COVID. That’s not such a simple call, and people citing this issue to claim most of them died from something other than COVID are being careless with the facts. If we want to decide how deadly COVID is compared to other viruses, then we should use the same counting methods. If we include died with flu or died with SARS in the numbers for died from flu or died from SARS, then we should do the same with COVID.
"And then of course, those protected could continue to spew the the airborne virus.”
There is a lot of bullshit being thrown around on COVID, but one thing we have is a large study that suggests that it is extremely rare (none were found in the actual study) for a person who has such a low viral load that he never gets symptoms to infect another person. People who haven’t yet gotten symptoms but are destined to get them are another story entirely and have been documented to spread COVID before they actually become ill many many times.
Here is the “scientific method” as it is applied in COVID internet threads
Come up with a hypothesis.
Good so far... Here’s one
Viruses are too small to be trapped by masks, it’s like smoke through a chain link fence.
Fair enough as a hypothesis, but then the next step is to review the scientific literature. On a COVID thread this means search through the old science and find something that agrees with you, no matter the obvious flaws, such as lack of actual testing on coronaviruses. This is the important part, never look at any new science that mat disagree with you. That might cause your hypothesis to be falsified, and that would be bad, because you don’t like masks!
Whatever you do, don’t read this study! We identified seasonal human coronaviruses, influenza viruses and rhinoviruses in exhaled breath and coughs of children and adults with acute respiratory illness. Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets and coronavirus RNA in aerosols, with a trend toward reduced detection of coronavirus RNA in respiratory droplets. Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.
No, you don’t read any research that contradicts your conclusions because it doesn’t feel good to be proven wrong and you hates the masks.
Since I responded to your challenge Yancey, why don’t you go through this study and explain what they got wrong. I am sure you can do it since you are so confident of your findings!
An evaluation of state policies showed greater declines in daily COVID-19 cases after issuing mask mandates compared with states that did not have mandates.5 Face coverings offer source control to prevent exposing others and may offer protection to users. . - Journal of the American Medical Association
Oh, I forgot. You prefer to cling doggedly to the Danish study which said itself that it did not have the statistical power to detect any effect of masks less than a 50% drop in cases and did not even look at the issue of masking other people who may or may not be infected. That was a lofty goal. The only way that this study could have found any effect is if the masks were magic.
I am kind of surprised that my comments on masks disappear if I document them too well, so I give up. Let’s ignore all of the contrary evidence to Yancey’s “work” I guess. I will delete my own comments since they make no sense without the disappeared comment.
ANYONE WHO THINKS THE ELECTIONS WASN’T STOLEN: Left Admits Election 2020 Was “Fortified” The Democrat Way.
Look, guys, any honest person who knew math knows. I know the left and the right who hates Trump loves to lie to themselves that “everyone hates Trump.”
1- This is not true.
2- Most people weren’t crazy about Trump but liked the way he governed.
3-The election wasn’t only dirty, it was submerged in fraud.
4-People who haven’t stolen elections don’t fight having fraud looked into.
5- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t turn DC into occupied territory.
6- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t try so hard to gaslight the country.
7- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t try to turn opposing them into a crime.
8- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t try to destroy the country they just took over.
9- More importantly, people who haven’t stolen the election don’t tell us how they STOLE THE ELECTION.
There is that “consent of the governed.” The left doesn’t think they need it anymore. They think they have it all sewn up.And then there's this.
gadfly said…"A large study from the United Kingdom and another from China have discovered that protective antibodies against the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, decline rather quickly in people who have recovered from COVID-19."
I had Covid in July. As of the last week of January I still had antibodies.
There was a significant reduction by wearing face masks to 1 of 27 (4%) in detection of influenza virus in respiratory droplets, but no significant reduction in detection in aerosols (Table 1b).
There is no correlation between mandates and infection rates. Across the entire US, new cases have dropped by 47% from the Jan 8 peak (according to last night's NYT news digest).
That didn't happen because the entire US suddenly got mask religion in mid-December, it happened because the virus — despite masks — is running out of people to infect.
What beggars imagination is why epidemiologists can't ask the obvious question: what is the difference in infection rates between dental hygienists and hair stylists?
Reality, Tim, demonstrates that masking doesn't work. If masks work, then why haven't masks worked? You never deal with the actual data on the ground. Sure, masking might have some marginal effect in a lab with perfect conditions, materials, and training, but that isn't the world as it actually works. In the real world, masks haven't done a damned thing to stop the virus or lessen its impact- only all of the data says this- only all of it.
Blogger Yancey Ward said..."No, dumbass, I wasn't saying that last year you lying cretin. I wrote that the people infected was between 5 and 20 times the confirmed positives. I also wrote that it was likely that 1/4 to 1/2 of the population wouldn't get sick even if you injected the virus directly into them because of cross immunity with other coronaviruses.
Why do you constantly lie, Ken? I can't figure this out- you seemed a decent person at one time."
He's a troll, Yancey. He attributes things to me I never remotely said. Others report the same thing. I suggest you stop talking to him.
On February 6, 2021 I am dismayed that we are still fucking talking about this shit. And arguing facts. We don't argue facts, we look them up. The facts are clear: lockdowns and masks, as they are used most broadly, make no difference in the incidence and outcome of Covid. That's it. End the charade. Protect the vulnerable.
I don't wear a mask. Never did, since the hysteria began. I'm...not part of the collective. It saddens me to see intelligent people obsessed over a flu-vaccine, as if it's a magic pill. Can you not see you are being played?
The CDC admitted that only 6% of 'Covid' deaths were actually caused by 'Covid'. Couldn't you see it then.
Do you not know that next month will warn about a 'surge', and you have to be locked down?
Do you not know that from now on there will be the threat of a 'surge'? Double mask!
Even China is goofing on you, by promoting an anal swab test? Mask wearers will bend over.
BTW...I've invented a magic pill that burns belly fat. It's expensive. That's how you know it works. e-mail me.
"As I have recounted here before, I went into the theater to see the first one not knowing it was going to be a trilogy- I thought it was a stand-alone movie, which is what it should have been given the material of the novel itself. It was when all the worthless filler had reach the 90 minute mark that I began to wonder how it could wrap up in 3 hours without basically deleting most of the second half of the book. My youngest sister whispered to me that it wouldn't be wrapping up, and I stated, "So, its in two parts?" She replied, "No, three." I knew right then I wasn't interested in seeing any more of it."
I didn't know it was a trilogy of three hours movies. The unabridged audiobook is only 10-11 hours! Play it at 1.5x or 2.0x, and you can have the whole thing read to you before the movies end.
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It's Tax Prep Time! Woo Hoo! My kid has finished their taxes, and complained about how much they owe.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/trump-supporter-mother-two-fears-life-childrens-safety-kathy-griffin-doxxes-family/
People suck
I should do my taxes this weekend just to get them out of the way.
Farmgirl observes: People suck
Griffin certainly does.
Too much of people’s vision of reality is skewed by the news media. Seriously, they need to get out of their bubbles and visit with the proles to find it. And it's not only the USA. The entire world is at the mercy of an intentionally distorted view of life.
Good Grammar rule for Feb. 5:
Verbs has to agree with their subjects.
Most whimsical.
It's all too far gone.
Got my vaccine date. Feb 25.
My wife is a speech therapist at the local hospital and recently got vaxed. I do analytics at home, so now I am f'ing golden wrt wuhan covid.
What's the use, OM?
Ran across this earlier today. It's an Israeli story, but applicable worldwide -
COVID-19: Here’s why global travel is unlikely to resume ‘till 2024
HEALTH AFFAIRS: Vaccination doesn’t equal liberation
as millions of Israelis have “given a shoulder” to make the country safer, it is becoming more apparent that even if the entire Israeli population is immunized, this will not mean life will return to its 2019 reality.
This will be especially true when it comes to opening the skies and resuming international travel in any significant quantity or of any quality.
To do that, “we need to immunize all countries of the world,” explained Lancet editor-in-chief Richard Horton to The Jerusalem Post. “To reach herd immunity, about two-thirds of the world population – four billion to five billion people – need to be vaccinated. Each person has to have two doses – that is 10 billion doses of the vaccine.”
As such, the pandemic will not be solved by spring 2021, health experts said. It will not be over in 2022. And according to the most optimistic predictions, the skies will only really begin to open, and travel and tourism will resume, sometime between 2023 and 2024.
They are determined that the prison will never end. No release. No parole. Just one indignity and violation after another.
"To reach herd immunity, about two-thirds of the world population – four billion to five billion people – need to be vaccinated."
"As such, the pandemic will not be solved by spring 2021, health experts said. It will not be over in 2022. And according to the most optimistic predictions, the skies will only really begin to open, and travel and tourism will resume, sometime between 2023 and 2024."
Two weeks to flatten the curve. We promise.
Blogger Mark said...What's the use, OM?
Well, first and foremost, I need protection. I have a comorbidity with a 32% fatality rate.
Just finished Series 1 of The Fall. Do I want to watch Series 2?
I'm tired of this case and of this villain.
Fox News Media has canceled “Lou Dobbs Tonight,”a day after voting software company Smartmatic filed a $2.7 billion defamation suit against Fox News and three of its hosts — Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo and Jeanine Pirro. The company claims the hosts perpetuated lies and disinformation about Smartmatic’s role in the election, damaging its business and reputation.
It would seem that Faux News has just confirmed that the cable networks host did indeed lie, so Bartiromo and Judge Jeanine must also be liars.
The Introduction section of the lawsuit begins with this sentence:
"The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States. The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed. These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable."
Censorship by oversized (probably China-funded, certainly leftist dictatorship funded) litigation.
Lancet editor-in-chief Richard Horton
Lancet! Slowly I turned...step by step...
The gaslighting will continue until morale improves.
Interesting --
A sequel to Coming to America is being released next month.
OUT: The election wasn’t rigged.
IN: The election was rigged, but in a good, smart, upper-middle-class Wine Aunt way.
Any questions?
I don't know what or who "Wine Aunt" is, but the rest fits.
Time magazine, of all places, has published an article claiming that there was a conspiracy to down Trump's hopes of staying in office. They aren't saying the election was stolen, but they admit that Big Tech, the Democrats, the media, and elements of corporate America, the bureaucracy and the left got together to ensure that Biden took office after the election. Or at least that seems to be what it's about. I didn't read it. It's only a matter of time before the "it wasn't stolen" part gets called into question. If Trump was that much of a threat and if a massive coalition could be mobilized against him after the election, how much could have been orchestrated before and during election week?
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Wine Aunt - A woman who claims to be liberal and open minded, but it is authoritarian, judgmental, and prone to shutting out any opinion that differs than her worldview. Often, has no children or just one, but nevertheless adopts a matronly status because of the authority motherhood lends her voice.
Very common in suburbia. Cousin Karen takes after her.
Why 2/3 of the world? Vaccinate the vulnerable. That saves 95% of the deaths.
Now that President Trump has been removed, hydroxychloroquine is available for prophylactic use. Ivermectin is available for treatment. Dr's are free to do their job, without the wacko left going wild.
I guess we're to the BRAGGING phase now
Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction. After Election Day, they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result.
iowan2,
Because the issue is never the issue for totalitarians. The lockdowns and the masks are about punishment, about humiliation, about showing the untermenschen exactly how subhuman they are.
These are garbage people, ruling us.
If the vaccines work, case numbers drop and the "you have to keep wearing masks" crowd will lose their sway. Let's see if they work.
If they would vaccinate the older people this pandemic would be no more deadly than the flu. And there are fewer older people so they could all be vaccinated relatively quickly. Moreover, a process for similar vaccines has been developed. This exit from the crisis was developed by by Trump's policies. Ignoring the vaccine or misapplying the vaccine is being done by others. Around the world public health people are refusing to see and act on the facts about who dies from covid. They may tell themselves they're fighting racism but they're keeping a pandemic going by the way they are distributing the vaccine. And the black community is hardest hit by this continuing refusal to vaccinate the elderly first. Why is this happening? It it true that Black Lives Matter to the people refusing to vaccinate the black elderly?
Where I live I can do most anything I want. To get in to retail establishments I must wear a mask, any mask, and enforcement of wearing it properly is, to be kind, lax. I could and would travel to see my customers and business prospects but my company won't let me and theirs won't let them. I have no young children so working from home is functional, efficient even. Business volume is reduced. With only a couple more years to go until I retire to something else it is quite likely I will never resume pre-Covid levels of business travel. My company is quite pleased to save the $10k-$15k per month I used to spend.
I want to resume visiting with friends, going to dinners and get togethers. Sadly too many of my friends and family are overly cautious about the Covid scare. Must say it feels very much like the Abilene Paradox: everyone thinks everyone else is concerned and needs to be protected.
Back to woodworking, it gives me something to do, is satisfying, even the failures, and from it I derive a sense of purpose.
Blogger wildswan said..."If they would vaccinate the older people this pandemic would be no more deadly than the flu."
To my knowledge, that's what Wisconsin is doing.
The people refusing to vaccinate the black elderly or non-elderly is the black population itself.
I've characterized the election as national suicide before. But it is quite true. The left pushed and pushed the anti-vax narrative because Trump. And many people bought into it, particularly the minority communities. The same people who voted against Trump and for Biden. They voted for their own irrational fears and antagonisms and hates.
Yes time provides a cover story it doesnt account for all the irregularities, just some of the coverup.
Wine Aunt - A woman who claims to be liberal and open minded, but it is authoritarian, judgmental, and prone to shutting out any opinion that differs than her worldview. Often, has no children or just one, but nevertheless adopts a matronly status because of the authority motherhood lends her voice.
I have an aunt exactly like that. Exactly.
A good sullivan piece, riffing off his earlier comment
https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/the-unbearable-whiteness-of-the-classics-d60
The real story
https://meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2021/02/why-time-election-narrative-is-good-news.html?m=1
Next, Time Mag will report that Covid was just a flu like disease that affected old people, but served a vital role in defeating Trump.
I was in championship debate in HS and at that time Time was considered respectable.
Henry luce is doing capoiera in the ether.
Nicolson baker who is an eccentric character to say the least has been allowed to dribble out the truth about the wuhan flu.
Biden did say that he had the "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”
“If they would vaccinate the older people this pandemic would be no more deadly than the flu.”
People in the 1B group are now eligible for a vaccine. The hold up is having enough vaccine to go around in this age group, people over age 65. My private clinic and my Waukesha County health department have notified me they will contact me when they have enough vaccine for me to get the vaccine. Waukesha County will also be opening the Waukesha County Fair grounds and separate county clinics in the coming weeks for people in the over 65 age group. No one is purposefully withholding vaccine from older people.
Just finished Series 1 of The Fall. Do I want to watch Series 2?
My impression was that the series, like most television, falls off after a while, but I don't know if that happens in season 2 or only in season 3. I think you need the second season to wrap up the first and the third is just an add-on. But I really hate British Gillian Anderson, so I'm biased. Not so crazy about this "Series" thing either.
I'm Not Sure said...
"As such, the pandemic will not be solved by spring 2021, health experts said. It will not be over in 2022. And according to the most optimistic predictions, the skies will only really begin to open, and travel and tourism will resume, sometime between 2023 and 2024."
After a week of trying (and making a few mistakes/missed opportunities), I think Hubby and I will finally be able to access one of our state's mega sites this weekend (after tons of research as to when the site opens). I took a look at air fares (business class) to Europe a few days ago - I think the skies will be just fine because the price is about 25% of what it was 5 years ago (when I cashed in every bloody mile earned).
Wisconsin 4 Minnesota 1
Awesome hockey game.
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The Harvard Classics on Kindle for $1.99.
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As Cicero said: "If you have a library and a garden, you have all you need."
What is it about turkish soaps
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U6UXPnD8Li4
“Oh for FUCK's sake!
Young people don't die from covid. The stats show that.
Young people don't transmit the illness to their parents. If the did we would see the death rates-per-age-group to rise in at least a straight line. We don't.
EVERYWHERE, people over 65, and especially people over 75, die from covid at a high rate.
People 18 and under do not. WHY GIVE THE VACCINE TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT DIE, RATHER THAN TO PEOPLE WHO DO?”
Excuse me? What are you ranting about? I clearly said that I’m in favor of older people getting the vaccine.
Inga said...
“If they would vaccinate the older people this pandemic would be no more deadly than the flu.”
People in the 1B group are now eligible for a vaccine. The hold up is having enough vaccine to go around in this age group, people over age 65. My private clinic and my Waukesha County health department have notified me they will contact me when they have enough vaccine for me to get the vaccine. Waukesha County will also be opening the Waukesha County Fair grounds and separate county clinics in the coming weeks for people in the over 65 age group. No one is purposefully withholding vaccine from older people.
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Oh for FUCK's sake!
Young people don't die from covid. The stats show that.
Young people don't transmit the illness to their parents. If the did we would see the death rates-per-age-group to rise in at least a straight line. We don't.
EVERYWHERE, people over 65, and especially people over 75, die from covid at a high rate.
People 18 and under do not.
WHY PREFERENTIALLY GIVE THE VACCINE TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT DIE, RATHER THAN TO PEOPLE WHO DO?
Inga has the brain power of a paramecium...a Special Needs paramecium.
Well, Time Magazine admitted that the left rigged the election, but it was for the greater good, so...there’s that.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
Wine Aunt - A woman who claims to be liberal and open minded, but it is authoritarian, judgmental
Not "but," but rather "and."
Liberalism is a philosophy and practice of divergence. Open mindedness is not necessarily a laudable quality.
Its called a modified limited hangout
The 1B vaccine group are people over age 65, just in case some folks are confused.
Remember how they created the narrative anbout the prowess on social media and hid the suppression of the tea party by the irs and other agencies.
Thursday evening I attended a Zoom book club hosted by a library in New Jersey. The featured book was "Forget Russia" and the author, Lisa Williams, participated. The Zoom format made for a livelier book club meeting than most club meetings I've attended in person. The online format meant there were participants from lots of different places. Most of social events I've attended via Zoom have been pale imitations of what the events would have been in person, but this was an improvement. I hope the library does it again, and I hope the idea catches on.
The book ia an autobiographical novel about four generations of Russian Jews. The author shared some of the research she did before writing the book. She also shared a lot of resources which really enhanced the novel. She told stories of Americans who were lured to the Soviet Union with promises of a better life under communism during the Great Depression and how they found themselves trapped there when the visions of utopia turned out not to be reality. While the meeting never got political, there were a lot of parallels one could draw with where we are today even if no one there wanted to point it out. It's a fascinating story about women, but from thw number of men who participated in the group, not chicklit.
Curious that
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShidelerK/status/1357800351378907136
Psst! Has Prof called roll today? I played hookey and haven't done the readings.
I saw enough of Steyn on TCN tonight to make me quite certain that we are doomed. Tout le monde (those that have incentive to care, anyway) are watching an entire branch of our government go through hysterics over unruly doofuses.
My wife is monitoring the age eligibility for the vacc in Shelby Co and it's already dropped to 70 . . . Every COVID news story is of confusion about testing, vaccination, immunity, and in fact every facet of the crud except one-- that we'll probably never really understand where the darn stuff came from and should stop worrying about it and get the shot. Shots. Tests. More shots. M&SD are now givens.
Narr
I'm beginning to think the Age of Easy Travel is over for good
"To reach herd immunity, about two-thirds of the world population – four billion to five billion people – need to be vaccinated."
Not vaccinated, but rather immune or treated to limit viral viability. Not two-thirds, a theoretical limit based on plausible assumptions, but community immunity will be reached when viral contagion is suppressed (i.e. observed), never extinguished, through denial of safe sanctuaries for the virus to fester and progress.
"I'm beginning to think the Age of Easy Travel is over for good.”
August 2001 I flew to London for a three hour meeting. Once things opened up again after 9-11, I never did anything like that again.
There will be a quiz
https://computingforever.com/2021/02/04/this-is-where-we-are-now/
The reason the client gave for requiring an in person meet? They wanted to be able to see me sweat, should I sweat. Sweat I did, however as there were 90 people there to hear me in a room that would have held 20 comfortably. Another so not COVID detail.
Inga said...
The 1B vaccine group are people over age 65, just in case some folks are confused.
Half the people in this state who have been vaccinated are under 65. IA and IB includes Frontline health care personnel
Residents in skilled nursing and long-term care facilities
Police and fire personnel, correctional staff
Adults ages 65 and over
32% of the covid deaths are in the 80 to 89 age group. There's only 236,000 people in this group and there have been 469,000 people who have got at least one shot. So the entire 80 to 89 age group could have been vaccinated leading to a sharp drop in the death rate. Instead all sorts of people not at risk of death are being vaccinated and those most at risk - the elderly blacks above all- are as group only being vaccinated slowly and the death rate stays up. Then the restrictions stay in place. And these restrictions are devastating the economy. Hitting the blacks hardest. Schools could open and closed schools are awful for children. Hitting the blacks hardest. The black community voted for Biden in Wisconsin and look how they are treated. Like to hear an explanation. I need a laugh.
My wife and I have been here at our GA home since before Thanksgiving. GA began giving vaccine to 65 and over in mid-Jan. We got our first dose of Pfizer on Tue Jan 12 and we got our second dose this past Tue, Feb 2. I have had no side effects either time, just a slight pain in my arm that ended in less than a day, much like my annual flu shot. My wife had no issues with the first dose, but on the second she felt a little achy on Wed/Thu and had a slight fever. She is OK today. By next week we should be at 95% effectiveness. Cases here in Forsyth County have gone done significantly, as they have for GA overall. Don't know if that is because of the vaccine or just the normal progression of the virus.
At my other home in Sullivan Co, in NE TN, they are still at 70 and above for vaccines, but that county has an average population about 12-15 years older than here in GA, so many more people in that age cohort to vaccinate, They have been doing them via drive-thru at Bristol Motor Speedway first-come/first-served, but wait times in line in your car have been long. They start next week at the civic auditorium in Kingsport by appointment so that should speed things up more. We are glad we decided not to go back up there, they still would not be to us yet, though I turn 70 in 10 days and my wife turns 70 in March. Daily cases are down dramatically in the county, but again not sure if that is vaccine or just progression of the virus.
"The black community voted for Biden in Wisconsin and look how they are treated. Like to hear an explanation."
Be careful what you wish for? Not really an explanation, but WTH...
Gadfly is far from a gadfly.
Inga said...
“If they would vaccinate the older people this pandemic would be no more deadly than the flu.”
I've been saying since March, we should have been protecting the vulnerable. Not locking down the whole Nation. Fauci disagreed.
Just Today Fauci said masks are going to be required through the fall. He declined to explain why. Because he won't reveal the highly classified "true goal"
“Half the people in this state who have been vaccinated are under 65. IA and IB includes Frontline health care personnel
Residents in skilled nursing and long-term care facilities
Police and fire personnel, correctional staff
Adults ages 65 and over”
These are at risk people. These are also healthcare workers and public safety officers who can spread the virus to the people they take care of. Stopping the spread of Covid is an important goal too, no? I’m not going to begrudge at risk workers of the vaccine. I’m not sure what you think a better plan would be, to not vaccinate healthcare workers? That seems counterproductive.
Because he won't reveal the highly classified "true goal"
Instituting "Because I said so" as the Prime Directive.
Wildswan, as far as elderly black Americans, are you saying they are not being offered the vaccine in the same numbers that white elderly are? Also there is the issue of the black community refusing the vaccine in higher numbers.
Guess who isnt receiving the vaccine
https://mobile.twitter.com/susancrabtree/status/1357804543216558082
natatomic said..."Well, Time Magazine admitted that the left rigged the election, but it was for the greater good, so...there’s that."
During one of his morning livestreams several weeks ago Scott Adams predicted a story like this would come out but probably later in 2021. He said it would be almost like this, that they would actually take pride in what they had done, like it was the right thing to do. How prescient. I have only skimmed it and read a couple of articles about it, I will probably read it in full over coffee in the morning. No, this is not democracy.
I found it somewhat humorous to see a little while ago that now that Claudia Tenney has won the last undecided House set in NY the infamous Marc Elias is now coming out claiming the election was stolen from the Democrat because of the corrupt Dominion voting machine mis-counting the votes. This shit will never end.
I just read that David Duchovny also writes novels. I wonder if his books are better than Ethan Hawke's. At the Golden Globes they should have an award for the best novel written by a leading man.... I think a fair number of actors have turned their hand at writing fiction. I can't think of any who wrote something that was a big best seller or became a recognized classic. ...Well, Shakespeare. Shakespeare set the bar pretty high for actor-writers. To be fair, he didn't have leading man looks, so it's good that he had the writing to fall back on.
Another point is that herd immunity will be reached by a combination of vaccination and getting covid but WHO and others talk about immunity in terms of vaccination alone. In Wisconsin about 469,000 had been vaccinated by Feb. 4 and 500,000 had had covid. That's 1 million immune in a population of 5.8 million. So about 1 in 5 people in Wisconsin are immune.
In the US 26 million people have had covid and 38.5 million have been vaccinated. So about 64 million are immune. There are 330 million people in the US so about 19% or again about 1 in 5 are now immune.
All the vaccinations are due to the efforts of the Republican President the Democrats are putting on trial tomorrow. If that Republican had done drugs, refused to support his children and taken money from sketchy oligarchs he'd be welcome in the Democrat-run White House. That's the difference between the parties these days.
Black Americans Are Getting Vaccinated at Lower Rates Than White Americans and explains why this is happening
“In Washington, D.C, a digital divide is already evident, said Dr. Jessica Boyd, the chief medical officer of Unity Health Care, which runs several community health centers. After the city opened vaccine appointments to those 65 and older, slots were gone in a day. And Boyd’s staffers couldn’t get eligible patients into the system that fast. Most of those patients don’t have easy access to the internet or need technical assistance.
“If we’re going to solve the issues of inequity, we need to think differently,” Boyd said.”
This one is a thriller about ian flemings missions in iran during the war, a bit meta.
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1101983361/fictiondb1-20
You are so full of shit, Inga. My wife is UC nursing faculty with no clinical practice and yet she has received a complete course of vaccine to cover full-time zoom exposure. China protects their own.
Inga said...
Wildswan, as far as elderly black Americans, are you saying they are not being offered the vaccine in the same numbers that white elderly are? Also there is the issue of the black community refusing the vaccine in higher numbers.
I'm saying that all those over eighty should have gotten the vaccine first as this would have lowered the death rate at once by 32%. When that rate goes down the state can re-open. It's also true that elderly blacks are disproportionately likely to die of covid. So giving the vaccine to everyone over 80 (which could have been done by now) would help end the disproportionate death toll among blacks. But I don't see anyone raising the issue. I also don't see a big push to overcome the fear of the vaccine in the black community. I don't see black leaders on TV getting the shot. Black Lives Matter. Fight for those lives. I don't see Democrats doing that. I see them fighting me.
Immunity doesn’t matter. The idiots will jabber on about how somehow you can transmit the plague after vaccination to scare enough Karens (or support their delusions of importance) to keep the slave states (California Illinois New York etc) locked down.
The idea that an effectively immune person can transmit a virus is so stupid it literally pains me to hear those assholes say it.
"The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. "
TROLL!!!
I remember i read the life of alejandro mayta when life was imitating art in the early 90s, and i took a crack at conversation in the cathedral, vargas llosas debut
Some discussion of vaccination.
What should happen is we vaccinate healthcare workers who deal with patients. Then the vulnerable, which means mostly the old, or those with known aggravating conditions such as diabetes. The low risk can wait.
People forget the real goal of countermeasures. The real goal is to prevent *serious* cases. If a healthy person gets a mild case that is not a big problem.
The teachers want to get special treatment so they don’t get mild cases, while vulnerable people have to wait.
Some good news...
More African Americans say they’ll take the coronavirus vaccine, new survey finds. KFF poll finds 62% of Black people say they’ll get vaccinated, up sharply from the number in September
Even money says Dobbs was on the phone with Trump today getting a referral to a good bankruptcy attorney.
Inga
62% is damn low.
If you are offered the vaccine, any of the vaccines, take it. This should be obvious.
As Cicero said: "If you have a library and a garden, you have all you need."
And slaves to tend the garden. And the Consulship. And a Triumph.
“62% is damn low.”
It’s too low, yes, but it’s an improvement and I’m pretty sure people in the black community haven't given up on increasing those numbers. There’s an across the board effort to get everyone vaccinated.
“There’s an across the board effort to get everyone vaccinated.”
Not forgetting with the elderly!
"Cases here in Forsyth County have gone done significantly, as they have for GA overall. Don't know if that is because of the vaccine or just the normal progression of the virus."
The drop has nothing to do with the vaccine rollout- cases peaked in the US on January 11th and started dropping 2 days later, long before even 1% of the population had gotten the first shot. If you extrapolate out, it is likely that over half the population has been exposed to the virus and have developed IgG antibodies and/or have a natural resistance to such viruses, likely cross immunity from previous coroviruses. Once you reach that high level of immunity, cases stop increasing and drop rapidly. Additionally, flu viruses follow the same Winter pattern- peaking in mid- January, so there is seasonality, too.
I think the vaccines will be effective, even if late and of minimal actual impact, however, I doubt they will remain effective over time. COVID and its progeny will be with us from now on, taking lives on a constant basis just like influenza does despite our having developed over a hundred different vaccines for flu.
As for whether or not the governments will let up on their panic- I don't know, but at a certain point the feeling of power becomes an opiod of a kind. I suspect the usual suspects will be hyping every new strain of COVID and flu from now on- it is simply a money-maker for too many powerful people.
"As for whether or not the governments will let up on their panic- I don't know..."
In the history of the world, what is the record on governments giving up power for any reason at all?
President* has decreed that we cannot refer to the Kung Flu as a Chinese or wuhan flu.
The media comply.
But yesterday I heard references to the "new South African variant"
Why is that OK?
Seems racist to me.
John Henry
Now they tell us
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1357856080110510080
But yesterday I heard references to the "new South African variant"
Of the flu that didn't come from China?
Sounds legit.
Inga said
"There’s an across the board effort to get everyone vaccinated."
There's no real effort being made by public figures to overcome the fear of the vaccine in the black community. There's just pamphlets and statements. I've heard people on the radio saying it's quite understandable and very natural to refuse the vaccine because the black community doesn't trust the doctors. A deep fear needs hard work to overcome it. Black Lives Matter. Do the work and stop the babble.
Coming back around
https://mobile.twitter.com/luigi_warren/status/1357895114308288515
"In the US 26 million people have had covid and 38.5 million have been vaccinated. So about 64 million are immune. There are 330 million people in the US so about 19% or again about 1 in 5 are now immune."
The number of immune is far higher than 1 in 5. It is practically impossible that we actually tested even 1/5 of the people infected by COVID, and it is very likely that no more than 2/3 of the population was even capable of being infected by COVID in the first place. If I had estimate, at least 200 million people are immune or effectively immune already.
Hank Aaron did his vaccination publically in order to allay fear of the vaccine inside the black communities- he even said so on video, so it might have worked.
"and it is very likely that no more than 2/3 of the population was even capable of being infected by COVID in the first place."
On the Diamond Princess cruise ship, 20% of the passengers and crew were infected.
That should have been "opioid". Somewhere in my brain there is a block preventing me from putting three vowels in a row inside a word. I feel that block every single time I have to write the word beautiful, or plateau, or sequoia (which causes me pain).
Hot Air
NY Times Fires Science Writer Who Used The N-Word Back In 2019 (Update)
JOHN SEXTON Posted at 7:16 pm on February 5, 2021
'...But obviously standards have changed and now any use of the word is grounds for termination. It appears the Times decided on this new standard under duress. Yesterday the Daily Beast reported Times’ staffers had sent an angry letter demanding consequences for McNeil.
In the Wednesday afternoon letter, signed by more than 150 staffers and addressed to executive editor Dean Baquet along with other top members of the Times masthead, employees expressed feeling “deeply disturbed” by the paper’s handling of the allegations, which thus far included a statement declaring McNeil had been “disciplined.”…
“We, his colleagues, feel disrespected by his actions,” the letter said. “The company has a responsibility to take that experience seriously.”...'
ErikWemple
@ErikWemple
Donald McNeil, the NYT science reporter who has been front-and-center on covid, has resigned from the paper over remarks he made on an educational trip to Peru with students in 2019.
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2021/02/05/ny-times-fires-science-writer-used-n-word-back-2019/
Update: Andrew Sullivan's take on McNeil's resignation apology:
Andrew Sullivan
@sullydish
This reads like a confession procured by the Khmer Rouge. It’s both ridiculous and terrifying.
I did the weekly shopping today at the local Food City. I wasn't the only person in there today without a mask- mask usage is down significantly. When I went last Friday, I was the only person in the store without a mask. Today only about 80% of the people were masked. Next week it might be down to 50%.
@JohnHenry: It's not the chinese people per se; it's the the CCP.
“Do the work and stop the babble.”
‘“This is really about saving our lives," said Anita Jenkins, CEO of Howard University Hospital, in Washington, D.C. "Too many of us have died."
Howard created a public service announcement about the vaccines aimed at Black Americans. Across the country, academic medical professors and leaders and public health scholars are engaged in advocacy, outreach and research on the issue of vaccine hesitancy.
A research initiative at the City University of New York Graduate School of Public Health & Health Policy, CONVINCE USA, is seeking to better understand and address public concerns about COVID-19 in order to better inform the development of communication and outreach strategies.”
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2021/02/02/academic-medical-institutions-address-issues-vaccine-hesitancy-through-research-and
https://mobile.twitter.com/proteinwisdom/status/1357858689747623936
They should have burned McNeil at the stake, is the only solution to the problem.
Hang him, like the writer of thr hungarian phrasebook.
Churchy
Cicero never got a triumph. He got some lesser thing, a supplicatio. Not even an ovation. Bummer.
He did get his hands up on the roster though I think.
I posted in the other thread the Sherrod Asshole Brown tweet were he yelled at Rand Paul for not wearing a mask on the Senate floor, even though Paul had a well publicized bout and recovery from COVID. Paul isn't endangering anyone by not wearing a mask, not even himself.
They mean for the masks to be more or less permanent. It really is a boot on the face sort of thing- an act of domination. I refuse to comply any longer. I am done.
My hovercraft is full of eels.
Cicero never got a triumph. He got some lesser thing, a supplicatio. Not even an ovation. Bummer.
Yeah, I know. One history painted him as a kind of pathetic figure sitting with his lictors outside of the City after his governorship hoping to be voted a Triumph while things everywhere were falling apart.
I should have phrased it better, and out of the list of things he did get, but that was one of the things he wanted more than his library and garden.
Why isn't Gwen Moore on TV and radio and on the news talking up the vaccine. What about Lieutenant Governor Mandela. What's he doing. What about sports figures? They don't have an intuitive understanding of their own community and what to say? They're waiting till some professors in NYC finish a research project? Then these Wisconsin figures will apply for a grant for project on overcoming vaccine fear? That's what I mean by going through the motions. Black Lives Matter. The Dems should be effective on getting the vaccine out, not just able to cite research and express good intentions.
Bean extravaganza tomorrow. Soaking them tonight. Tomorrow I make two batches, one no onion low salt. That’s for the in laws. Ours will be yummier.
I will precook the beans in beef stock in the instant pot, and them do two batches in Dutch ovens, at 300 for many hours.
Last year at the I had to cook for three weeks for a bunch with no onion, no salt, no dairy, no hot spices. I was tempted to just serve alfalfa. We ate a lot of burgers.
"The Dems should be effective on getting the vaccine out, not just able to cite research and express good intentions."
Dems are going to do whatever it is that benefits the Dems. Maybe that'll be something that's beneficial to regular people, maybe not.
This looks likr a cool trailer for his new standalone? Novel
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1356990986619138053
Churchy
Everitt's book is good. He's portrayed as a blowhard in Saylor's novels. He comes off better in Harris's.
IMO he was one of the good guys.
Yancey Ward, spreading twaddle again. You have no evidence that 200M are immune. Weren’t you saying there that many immune a year ago?
I was sad to see Christopher Plummer died. Great character actor- one of the very best. The first film I remember seeing in which he acted was, unsurprisingly, The Sound of Music, when I was around 8 or 9 years old. The last movie that I saw in which he appeared was The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. He had a great role in the Spike Lee film Inside Man which I think of every time I see George Soros' name.
However, my best memory of him is as the villain in Dreamscape, a movie that came out the Summer after I graduated from high school, and was a must see film for myself and my friends- we saw it 3 times the weekend it came out, and just a couple of weeks before I went off to college.
No, dumbass, I wasn't saying that last year you lying cretin. I wrote that the people infected was between 5 and 20 times the confirmed positives. I also wrote that it was likely that 1/4 to 1/2 of the population wouldn't get sick even if you injected the virus directly into them because of cross immunity with other coronaviruses.
Why do you constantly lie, Ken? I can't figure this out- you seemed a decent person at one time. Has being completely wrong about the effectiveness of shutdowns and lockdowns and masking corrupted your sense of honor?
Seriously, Ken, did you get anything right as far as optimal policy response. I can't think of a single recommendation that you made that had any beneficial effect on COVID's progress. Not a single one. If we had followed your advice, we would be eating the pets today rather than having just 6.3% unemployment.
Speak up for yourself, Ken- what did you get right about COVID? I have made my case multiple times in response to you, along with what I got hilariously wrong (the 7500 COVID deaths by the end of the year in the US).
Did you get anything right?
Ah dreamscape i remember he was the shadowy secretary of state, i remember when dennis quaid was the young hotshot at the time
You know they made a sequel to inside man, went straight to video
I have a nice fire in the fireplace, enough food and drink, and Nor the Cat (who I got from the humane society four weeks ago) is sleeping at the end of the couch. A good night.
Blogger Yancey Ward said...
I posted in the other thread the Sherrod Asshole Brown tweet were he yelled at Rand Paul for not wearing a mask on the Senate floor, even though Paul had a well publicized bout and recovery from COVID. Paul isn't endangering anyone by not wearing a mask, not even himself.
Ophthalmologist Rand Paul has forgotten the First Rule of the medical profession - "Do no harm."
A large study from the United Kingdom and another from China have discovered that protective antibodies against the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, decline rather quickly in people who have recovered from COVID-19. And then of course, those protected could continue to spew the the airborne virus.
That potentially makes the virus seasonal just like influenza.
"Paul isn't endangering anyone by not wearing a mask, not even himself."
Wrong!
https://www.today.com/health/why-wear-mask-even-if-you-ve-already-had-covid-t201001
Just don't understand why with some morons wearing a mask is such a big deal.
Since neither owens washington or even foster would return the project lacked viability so owen was killed off screen by an relative of plummers character.
"Ophthalmologist Rand Paul has forgotten the First Rule of the medical profession - "Do no harm."
Dr. Rand Paul has forgotten more about medicine than either you or DOCTOR Jill Biden will ever know.
The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed. These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable."
OK....please do the irrefutable demonstration. Place it in the NY Times.
Mutaman,
If Paul is endangering people by not wearing a mask, then we will be wearing masks for the rest of our lives, you dumb shit. You will have to wear mask even though you have been vaccinated, too, if Paul has to wear one now. It is as simple as that.
And, yes, it is a big fucking deal to have wear a mask everywhere you go.
For those who care, I decided to go back to last March to review some of the things I wrote about COVID then in these very threads- they were the posts made around the time the NCAA was cancelled and the country was in a complete panic. Almost everything I wrote about COVID holds up well in retrospect, in my not so humble opinion, but you don't have to believe me- you can read them for yourselves and let me know what I got wrong in those comments. I do know I vastly underestimated the number that would die of COVID- I have admitted that multiple times, so I own the mistake, I don't see where I got anything else wrong. Indeed, looking back, I gave the panickers way too much credit in hindsight.
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
You just have to search my name in the threads.
Our fragile democracy was saved by Democratic election "protection," not by fraud. Credit must be given to those responsible.
“Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,” says Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy, a nonpartisan rule-of-law advocacy group. “But it’s massively important for the country to understand that it didn’t happen accidentally. The system didn’t work magically. Democracy is not self-executing.”
Huge Report: The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign that saved Election 2020
Hank Aaron did his vaccination publically in order to allay fear of the vaccine inside the black communities- he even said so on video, so it might have worked.
eah, then he died. Whitey killed him with vaccine so black man wouldn't take it, leaving more for racist whites.
Thinking of Christopher Plummer and watched a movie of his we hadn't seen: The Silent Partner (1978). Surprisingly good for a movie we hadn't heard of until today.
The Critical Drinker has done a retrospective a review of "The Hobbit" movies. Nothing surprising to me in it- they are the exact criticisms I had of the first installment, and why I never bothered watching the subsequent ones. As I have recounted here before, I went into the theater to see the first one not knowing it was going to be a trilogy- I thought it was a stand-alone movie, which is what it should have been given the material of the novel itself. It was when all the worthless filler had reach the 90 minute mark that I began to wonder how it could wrap up in 3 hours without basically deleting most of the second half of the book. My youngest sister whispered to me that it wouldn't be wrapping up, and I stated, "So, its in two parts?" She replied, "No, three." I knew right then I wasn't interested in seeing any more of it.
Original Mike said...Got my vaccine date. Feb 25.
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I suggest flowers..and chocolate.
I, for one, am grateful for your work Yancy. It is one value point of many on this blog that keep folks coming back. Trolls gonna troll. Must have been weaned on dill pickles.
@Yancey:
You may not be as far off of your prediction as you think you are
55 and also in Forsyth County. I have the privilege to work from home. But hubby goes to courts and prison — for work. So who knows.
A few years ago I had a flu so bad I thought I was going to die. I’d had the shot, but in August, and it was a year when they had guessed the wrong strain. I never experienced anything like it. Not even close, and I consider myself pretty resilient. It felt the way malaria is described. So we’ll probably see more of this.
Up here we’re lucky. It’s easy to social distance in most settings. I also don’t miss the sort of snow coming down elsewhere today. This is supposed to be the best region for surviving apocalyptic events at least in terms of natural resources, ample ground water, not too hot, not too cold, not coastal, no big mountains.
Don’t tell anyone.
My town, I guess it's safe but this makes me feel a little safer. https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/model-642
"Elizabethtown one of America’s safest cities per capita, FBI data shows"
https://www.wave3.com/2021/02/05/elizabethtown-one-americas-safest-cities-per-capita-fbi-data-shows/?fbclid=IwAR1oLKqPcCbHXeO-wAGOdd89S_BjApPeORqB5qqZar5cUKRvDyJsVrBXpDo
Churchy LaFemme: said...
"As Cicero said: "If you have a library and a garden, you have all you need."
And slaves to tend the garden. And the Consulship. And a Triumph."
Car? Or motorcycle?
Has Althouse covered the NYT's solution to reality?
How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis
Derb covers it today and points to vdare.com fiskings. It sees like a huge and amusing target.
What should happen is we vaccinate healthcare workers who deal with patients. Then the vulnerable, which means mostly the old, or those with known aggravating conditions such as diabetes
That’s the nut of priority, isn’t it? Do we focus on the most vulnerable? or on the people most likely to catch and spread the virus? I’m of the opinion that we focus on the most vulnerable for 2 reasons:
1) They are the most likely to get sick and die. The fastest route to safely opening up is not through reducing cases, but through reducing hospitalizations and deaths.
2) They are an easily identifiable group. We know who is over 80, over 70, over 65. But the most likely to spread? People like to say healthcare workers, but that’s not true. It’s a bit of a fetish, in fact. The brave frontline worker. What about the Walmart cashier? What about the Uber driver? The food delivery person? It’s not at all a clearly defined group, and it’s definitely not just “healthcare workers.”
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Lou Dobbs will be old enough to run for President in 2024.
A large study from the United Kingdom and another from China have discovered that protective antibodies against the new coronavirus,
SARS-CoV-2, decline rather quickly in people who have recovered from COVID-19.
Thanks for the clarification. I had assumed immunity declined "somewhat quickly" Always a joy to have Howard put the fine scientific point of how our immune system works.
And then of course, those protected could continue to spew the the airborne virus.
The level of contagion is directly affected by viral load. If the virus cant reproduce, passing on a critical level of viral load from an immunized individual is exceedingly difficult.
And of course that's what all those studies have proved conclusively. Like the one from ??? oh well, we know we should just shut up a follow the science like the Biden administration is by force teachers back into the classroom
“Hank Aaron did his vaccination publically in order to allay fear of the vaccine inside the black communities- he even said so on video, so it might have worked. “
“Yeah, then he died. Whitey killed him with vaccine so black man wouldn't take it, leaving more for racist whites.”
Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for my placebo or for Trump’s vaccination, then you ain't black. Come on, man!!!
Blogger heyboom said...@Yancey: You may not be as far off of your prediction as you think you are
Thanks for the link. I skimmed the article, and I have no doubt that the number of deaths from COVID is something that will be argued about for a long time. The problem with using all cause mortality to show that there was no increase in deaths in 2020 suffers from the problem that most people would have died soon anyway—they died of COVID today instead of something else 6 months from now. Those people won’t show up on this chart, but those 6 months were worth something to them and to their families. It matters. Plus, in the short term, the shutdowns save lives by reducing other communicable disease, traffic fatalities, etc.
There’s also the problem of died from COVID vs. died with COVID. That’s not such a simple call, and people citing this issue to claim most of them died from something other than COVID are being careless with the facts. If we want to decide how deadly COVID is compared to other viruses, then we should use the same counting methods. If we include died with flu or died with SARS in the numbers for died from flu or died from SARS, then we should do the same with COVID.
"And then of course, those protected could continue to spew the the airborne virus.”
There is a lot of bullshit being thrown around on COVID, but one thing we have is a large study that suggests that it is extremely rare (none were found in the actual study) for a person who has such a low viral load that he never gets symptoms to infect another person. People who haven’t yet gotten symptoms but are destined to get them are another story entirely and have been documented to spread COVID before they actually become ill many many times.
Here is the “scientific method” as it is applied in COVID internet threads
Come up with a hypothesis.
Good so far... Here’s one
Viruses are too small to be trapped by masks, it’s like smoke through a chain link fence.
Fair enough as a hypothesis, but then the next step is to review the scientific literature. On a COVID thread this means search through the old science and find something that agrees with you, no matter the obvious flaws, such as lack of actual testing on coronaviruses. This is the important part, never look at any new science that mat disagree with you. That might cause your hypothesis to be falsified, and that would be bad, because you don’t like masks!
Whatever you do, don’t read this study!
We identified seasonal human coronaviruses, influenza viruses and rhinoviruses in exhaled breath and coughs of children and adults with acute respiratory illness. Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets and coronavirus RNA in aerosols, with a trend toward reduced detection of coronavirus RNA in respiratory droplets. Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2?fbclid=IwAR0Q3-WhHv1F9dmZSr2iLNQ-F6ioAIfOYAch7PPtHib9EsuVyhs-mYZlXcg
No, you don’t read any research that contradicts your conclusions because it doesn’t feel good to be proven wrong and you hates the masks.
Since I responded to your challenge Yancey, why don’t you go through this study and explain what they got wrong. I am sure you can do it since you are so confident of your findings!
An evaluation of state policies showed greater declines in daily COVID-19 cases after issuing mask mandates compared with states that did not have mandates.5 Face coverings offer source control to prevent exposing others and may offer protection to users. . - Journal of the American Medical Association
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2769440
Oh, I forgot. You prefer to cling doggedly to the Danish study which said itself that it did not have the statistical power to detect any effect of masks less than a 50% drop in cases and did not even look at the issue of masking other people who may or may not be infected. That was a lofty goal. The only way that this study could have found any effect is if the masks were magic.
I am kind of surprised that my comments on masks disappear if I document them too well, so I give up. Let’s ignore all of the contrary evidence to Yancey’s “work” I guess. I will delete my own comments since they make no sense without the disappeared comment.
@tim, In the last 2 hours, the only deleted comments of yours were deleted by you.
( tim in vermont, not tim maguire)
Wait. Checking the spam filter, I found your comment from 22 mins ago. I'll put it through.
Somebody check on Crack sometime this weekend. If he gets a look at this $50 bill, we may need to send him some medical help. We feel your pain, mate.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/push-for-oprah-on-50-bill-vp-harris-on-100-taylor-swift-on-20
ANYONE WHO THINKS THE ELECTIONS WASN’T STOLEN: Left Admits Election 2020 Was “Fortified” The Democrat Way.
Look, guys, any honest person who knew math knows. I know the left and the right who hates Trump loves to lie to themselves that “everyone hates Trump.”
1- This is not true.
2- Most people weren’t crazy about Trump but liked the way he governed.
3-The election wasn’t only dirty, it was submerged in fraud.
4-People who haven’t stolen elections don’t fight having fraud looked into.
5- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t turn DC into occupied territory.
6- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t try so hard to gaslight the country.
7- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t try to turn opposing them into a crime.
8- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t try to destroy the country they just took over.
9- More importantly, people who haven’t stolen the election don’t tell us how they STOLE THE ELECTION.
There is that “consent of the governed.” The left doesn’t think they need it anymore. They think they have it all sewn up.And then there's this.
Today's offerings seems to be products of our hostess' fascination [obsession?] with the NYT.
Illegitimate
wholelottasplainin' said...Inga has the brain power of a paramecium...a Special Needs paramecium.
Please refer to said commenter by her proper name: The Resident Idiot. An acceptable alternative is The Bedpan Commando.
It confuses her even further and limits her inane rejoinders.
gadfly said…"A large study from the United Kingdom and another from China have discovered that protective antibodies against the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, decline rather quickly in people who have recovered from COVID-19."
I had Covid in July. As of the last week of January I still had antibodies.
@tim in vermont
I read the first study you linked.
Did you?
There was a significant reduction by wearing face masks to 1 of 27 (4%) in detection of influenza virus in respiratory droplets, but no significant reduction in detection in aerosols (Table 1b).
Your second link is oldish, and is completely contradicted by reality.
There is no correlation between mandates and infection rates. Across the entire US, new cases have dropped by 47% from the Jan 8 peak (according to last night's NYT news digest).
That didn't happen because the entire US suddenly got mask religion in mid-December, it happened because the virus — despite masks — is running out of people to infect.
What beggars imagination is why epidemiologists can't ask the obvious question: what is the difference in infection rates between dental hygienists and hair stylists?
Reality, Tim, demonstrates that masking doesn't work. If masks work, then why haven't masks worked? You never deal with the actual data on the ground. Sure, masking might have some marginal effect in a lab with perfect conditions, materials, and training, but that isn't the world as it actually works. In the real world, masks haven't done a damned thing to stop the virus or lessen its impact- only all of the data says this- only all of it.
Blogger Yancey Ward said..."No, dumbass, I wasn't saying that last year you lying cretin. I wrote that the people infected was between 5 and 20 times the confirmed positives. I also wrote that it was likely that 1/4 to 1/2 of the population wouldn't get sick even if you injected the virus directly into them because of cross immunity with other coronaviruses.
Why do you constantly lie, Ken? I can't figure this out- you seemed a decent person at one time."
He's a troll, Yancey. He attributes things to me I never remotely said. Others report the same thing. I suggest you stop talking to him.
On February 6, 2021 I am dismayed that we are still fucking talking about this shit. And arguing facts. We don't argue facts, we look them up. The facts are clear: lockdowns and masks, as they are used most broadly, make no difference in the incidence and outcome of Covid. That's it. End the charade. Protect the vulnerable.
I don't wear a mask. Never did, since the hysteria began. I'm...not part of the collective. It saddens me to see intelligent people obsessed over a flu-vaccine, as if it's a magic pill. Can you not see you are being played?
The CDC admitted that only 6% of 'Covid' deaths were actually caused by 'Covid'. Couldn't you see it then.
Do you not know that next month will warn about a 'surge', and you have to be locked down?
Do you not know that from now on there will be the threat of a 'surge'? Double mask!
Even China is goofing on you, by promoting an anal swab test? Mask wearers will bend over.
BTW...I've invented a magic pill that burns belly fat. It's expensive. That's how you know it works. e-mail me.
"As I have recounted here before, I went into the theater to see the first one not knowing it was going to be a trilogy- I thought it was a stand-alone movie, which is what it should have been given the material of the novel itself. It was when all the worthless filler had reach the 90 minute mark that I began to wonder how it could wrap up in 3 hours without basically deleting most of the second half of the book. My youngest sister whispered to me that it wouldn't be wrapping up, and I stated, "So, its in two parts?" She replied, "No, three." I knew right then I wasn't interested in seeing any more of it."
I didn't know it was a trilogy of three hours movies. The unabridged audiobook is only 10-11 hours! Play it at 1.5x or 2.0x, and you can have the whole thing read to you before the movies end.
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