१२ सप्टेंबर, २०२०

"Sometimes called paltering, the artful use of small, truthful statements to convince people of a much grander lie is a common propaganda technique..."

"... In reality, the existence of arsonists is non-controversial. To wit, arsonists do not cease committing arson simply because of naturally occurring wildfires. Indeed, while revenge, extremism, and profit are all recognized motivations for arson, other fire-setters seek 'thrills, attention and recognition,' according to FEMA.... Close to midnight on Thursday, Facebook said that its third-party fact-checkers had rated as 'false' the allegations of coordinated attacks, which had by that hour spread to hundreds of thousands of its users... Kyle Reyes, the national spokesman for Law Enforcement Today, emphasized in an email that while LET did cite a police source claiming fires may be part of a 'coordinated and planned' attack, LET did not attribute the claim to any specific group or political ideology...."

From "Debunked 'Antifa' Wildfire Rumors Spread on Facebook Overload 911, Spur Calls to Violence" (Gizmodo).

१०० टिप्पण्या:

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Everybody knows it's those Gazebo guys. The ones in the Hawaiian shirts. They're the ones causing all this brouhaha!

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

It's OK to blame the "right" when you don't have proof.

Not OK to blame the left, even while we see left-wing Antifa arsonists lighting shit on fire every night in parts of downtown Portland.

Your lying eyes.

Birkel म्हणाले...

If they can "debunk" the theory that it was areonists, they must be able to tell us what the cause was, definitively, to a metaphysical certainty.

Or they're lying.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Rumors that "fire spreads" are rated as "mostly false" from MSM(D)

Ice Nine म्हणाले...

>>FBI Portland: Reports that extremists are setting wildfires in Oregon are untrue.
Facebook said that its third-party fact-checkers had rated as “false” the allegations of coordinated attacks<<

And who could possibly doubt such paragons of veracity as those two!

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Fact checkers for the democrat party rate this as "mostly false"

Jett Thomas, 36, has been arrested in Portland & charged w/1st-degree felony arson, felony unlawful use of a weapon, 2 counts of felony criminal mischief & more. Law enforcement says Thomas tried to set a NW Portland hotel gas pipe on fire.

No way, man. It's all lies, man. A myth.

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

The word 'debunked' has been devalued.

Krumhorn म्हणाले...

Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

- Krumhorn

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

We are at a loss for words. Deputies & @Corbett_Fire
responded to a small brush fire in the 1700 block of NE Brower Rd in Corbett at 3:52pm. Neighbors heard pops and saw 6ft flames in the forest. Using a shovel and water, they were able to put it out. Deputies found fireworks...



We are all sure this is a happy coincidence. Leftwing Antifa arsonists are a figment of our imaginations. They would never play with fire, because they only want more medicare for all.

daskol म्हणाले...

It's truth as fuck, and that's the standard today. Deal with hit.

daskol म्हणाले...

er, truthy.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

What? No way, man.

And here we have Antifa bragging about starting fires in Oregon

Temujin म्हणाले...

Two things I've learned in the past decade to trust with my life: Facebook and third party fact-checkers.

Anyway...I'm sure any arsonists appreciate the clean bill of health they've been given. I doubt those who study how a fire started use Facebook as it's guide. Gizmodo and WaPo, no doubt, do. (Just tossing WaPo into the same pit because, let's face it, they've earned it.)

Ken B म्हणाले...

Cute. The bit about arsonists always existing, many reasons for fires, etc. Those might all be ... paltering.

We could wait for the facts, or we can make pronouncements. I will wait, but Gizmodo clearly has no interest in waiting for the facts.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

There is no such thing as Antifa, but if there was, they wouldn't start forest fires, only buildings and cars and their own shoes and stuff like that.

Iman म्हणाले...

Where there’s smoke there’s fire.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

The art of lying, like the lying done by WaPo two posts below.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Official sources, news media, fact checkers burned their own credibility to the ground.
Their denial of these rumors now only pours gas on the fire.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

93% of the forest is not on fire.

MD Greene म्हणाले...

We're getting more stupid by the day. You can almost see the IQ points leaking out of people's ears as they walk down the street.

A new Netflix doc, "The Social Dilemma," features a bunch of ex-techies pondering, with regret, the effects of their algorithms.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

All it takes is one person to set a fire.

Or is that a myth too?

rcocean म्हणाले...

They haven't "debunked" anything. Why is the MSM so intent on protecting Antifa? Too bad, Fox News or someone could analyze and report on that.

Anyway, no one knows who set the arson attacks. That Antifa did it, is a good educated guess. Saying that's "false" is itself "false". You can only say its NOT antifa, if you know who is setting the fires. And the MSM and the Left, doesn't know. IT COULD BE ANTIFA.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Without evidence, the MSM says Antifa didn't do it.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Antifa are angry for being blamed for... stuff they do on video for 100+ nights...
Antifa more angry and call for more violence.

got it.
but do not blame antifa rioters.

Kate म्हणाले...

Fascinating that "palter" has no etymology on any site I chose, from urbandictionary to lexico, which says it dates to a 16th century usage. I've never heard of it and must now adopt it. What a beauty.

Dad29 म्हणाले...

Just like the FEEBS have stated that they found no "extremist" groups responsible for the fires.

Two weasel-words in there: "found" and "extremist." No ANTIFA? OK, but what about RevCom?

Wince म्हणाले...

"Sometimes called paltering, the artful use of small, truthful statements to convince people of a much grander lie is a common propaganda technique..."

The Democrats should know.

And notice the words "artful use" invoking a conspiracy behind those rampant suspicions. Do you really have to assume a plot is behind a resulting firestorm of social media gossip when the nearest metropolitan area is besieged by nightly riots and arson, with threats to take that violence to where you live?

As with so much on the left, they are projecting their own actual conspiracy mongering.

TreeJoe म्हणाले...

There was an arrest for arson. I’ve seen no details on the arrested suspect.

JAORE म्हणाले...

Not proven = debunked.
Not proven = lie.

Is this like the guy who yells, "Aloha Snackbar" and slices the throats of a few dozen people next to a Jewish community center and the "authorities" say we have no clue as to motive?

I don't know. But it's amazing the speed and certitude on display.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The Portland FBI assures you that this guy would never set anything on fire.

narciso म्हणाले...

you were saying,

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/09/arson-investigations-launched-in-california-oregon-and-washington-wildfires/

Achilles म्हणाले...

Facebook and Google and various censors can try to hide it.

They are failing.

Everyone knows what is going on. There have never been fires like this in these places. The videos of people setting fires on the side of the road get deleted but people still see them.

It is also easy as fuck to tell where these fires start.

Democrats/GOPe political class douchewads need to come to terms with not being in control of our lives.

Or we need to wipe them out.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

This paltering is the basis of most fact-checking I see done. We are definitely becoming a dumber, more easily-fooled society every day.

Narr म्हणाले...

How dare people spread misinformation! Why, it's downright dangerous, and Unamerican to boot.

I wonder what the Venn diagram would look like for BLM/Antifa rioters and the smokejumpers and other first responders.

Narr
O O would be my guess

Ken B म्हणाले...

Paltering is a word I have never heard before, and it seems a useful one.

JAORE म्हणाले...

Proven no Antifa involvement.

Proven no graft when Biden's son gets the big bucks from the Ukraine and China.

Darrell म्हणाले...

Interstate 5 is starting the fires. It's bloody obvious.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

the left LIE.

They will burn it all down and blame someone else.
They do it everyday on CNN, and MSDNC.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"Fascinating that "palter" has no etymology on any site I chose, from urbandictionary to lexico, which says it dates to a 16th century usage. I've never heard of it and must now adopt it. What a beauty."

I looked it up in the OED before posting. It's there, with no known origin. It goes back to the 1500s. Milton used it. Shakespeare used it.

The origin of "paltry" is also unknown. "Paltry" is a pretty common word.

Dust Bunny Queen म्हणाले...

Achilles Everyone knows what is going on. There have never been fires like this in these places. The videos of people setting fires on the side of the road get deleted but people still see them.

Exactly. That most of the fires are near major highways, like I-5 through Oregon and off of other easily accessible highways shows that the are almost all man-made. Arson. By people who are too lazy to get far away from freeway access. Fire Map Today See where the main roads are?? Hmmmmm.

Fires in remote areas occur but rarely and are usually sparked by dry lightning or by careless campers. Most of these fires recently are created by neither.

It is arson. By whom? well, we don't know. But we do have that gut feeling that those who are trying to burn down the cities are just expanding to other targets.

Until "they"...the people who "think" they are in charge can prove otherwise....it shall remain so. Arson by domestic terrorists.

wildswan म्हणाले...

I can refrain from thinking that I know that Antifa actually started these fires but not from thinking that it's the kind of thing they do. And we only have the media to investigate and find out what actually happened. This is why they shouldn't have allowed themselves to become known liars.

madAsHell म्हणाले...

This is Gell-Mann amnesia.

Did you miss the dumpster fires in Portland, Seattle, and Minneapolis??

AllenS म्हणाले...

Once again, I shall proffer --

True or false --

Antifa and Black Lives Matter like to start fires.

अनामित म्हणाले...

I live in Oregon, some of these fires are set.

AllenS म्हणाले...

Does anyone know if were thunderstorms/lightning strikes in the burn areas at the time of the fires? Thunderstorms? Can you just have lightning strikes without rain clouds around? Should be able to check if there were storms at that time, but my thinking that nobody has claimed that the fires were caused my lightning strikes leaves only one other way to start the fires. Sorry, all of you antifa and black lives matter commenters here, but your people did it.

n.n म्हणाले...

It's OK to blame the "right" when you don't have proof.

Yes, the debunkers were long ago debunked when they indulged liberal license to judge and label their competing interests as National Socialists, Fascists, and other bariants of left-wing ideologues, and, of course, allegations of diversity, projections of phobias, and similar progressive conditions.

n.n म्हणाले...

1530s, "speak indistinctly" (a sense now obsolete), a word of unknown origin. It has the form of a frequentative, but no verb palt is known. Connection with paltry is uncertain. Via the notion of "talk in a trifling manner, babble," hence "talk insincerely," comes the sense "play fast and loose" (c. 1600), also transitive, "trifle away, squander" (1620s). Related: Paltered; paltering; palterer.
-- palter (v.)

rehajm म्हणाले...

Eighteen of 20 board members tasked with oversight of Facebook fact-checking have ties to George Soros or his organization: Report

Ambrose म्हणाले...

I thought everyone learned how you can't prove a negative last week with the Atlantic Trump allegations.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

Facebook said that its third-party fact-checkers [snort snort] had rated as 'false' the allegations of coordinated attacks,

So the antifa arsonist assholes are uncoordinated.

cubanbob म्हणाले...

How fortunate we are that our hostess subjects herself to the palter of the NYT and the WaPo for our benefit.

hombre म्हणाले...

It’s best that Antifa confine its arson to downtown in Democrat cities.

It is interesting that so many of the usual suspects are certain despite suspicions of arson that Democrat Brownshirts are not responsible. For example, the police chief in progressive Ashland, Oregon, confirmed that arson investigations by several agencies were ongoing, but that he was “100% certain” that Antifa was not responsible.

Simply not possible, is it.

Jaq म्हणाले...

I love that word “paltering,” it’s such a perfect description of how the press operates in its unstinting service to the left.

iowan2 म्हणाले...

Fact checkers, aren't. On the plus side, the media have admitted no one trusts them to report facts. The just farm it out to other media to "fact check". I thought news gathering WAS fact checking.

The media is nothing but partisan propaganda distributors.

95% of Americans still have no idea the Obama administration actively spied on the Trump campaign, and transition team. That's a fact nobody wants to check.

Jaq म्हणाले...

I have a feeling that the word is going to climb the usage charts now, it’s way better than “beclown” ever was.

Jaq म्हणाले...

I have a feeling that the word is going to climb the usage charts now, it’s way better than “beclown” ever was.

Jim at म्हणाले...

The dude who deliberately set fires along Highway 167 and Highway 512 in Washington state admitted he was Antifa. It's on his fucking Facebook page.

mikee म्हणाले...

When will the words "lying shitweasel" be appropriate for use?

daskol म्हणाले...

Provide a soupçon of verisimilitude and the whole thing goes down in a truthy sluice.

tcrosse म्हणाले...

The accusations of arson were pre-paltered weeks ago.

5M - Eckstine म्हणाले...

So far on the left coast I have seen 6 verifies arsonists pictured in the newspaper web sites. That's without even trying hard. The background of these people seem to be 1 is insane and 5 are active criminals.

Where else do I see active criminals burning on the left coast. Portland!.

Is association causation here? Are these just sympathy copy cat crimes from felons watching too much Portland Twitter?

A couple of these were caused by fireworks tossed into dry foliage. Not far from Portland. Where else do I see fireworks being used to start fires?

I would state again that the only way for Facebook to bebunk the rumor accurately would be to be embedded in the BLM/Antifa riots and also providing them with private organizational groups that Facebook is spying on. The feds should put their eye on Facebook as a distiller of riots.

h म्हणाले...

THe word "palter" comes from columnist/author Jonathan P. Altar who uses the technique frequently in his writing.

5M - Eckstine म्हणाले...

There might be some Clintonesque hanky panky going on with the progressive definition of "arsonist". Same as they did with the term "racism".

We should not assume we are talking about the same thing when a government official or a Facebook CEO represent the word arsonist. In their world it's oppressive and racist to identify a protestor as an arsonist. Only someone from the capitalistic patriarchy can function as an arsonist.

Mid-Life Lawyer म्हणाले...

Mostly peaceful wildfires?

bbear म्हणाले...

In recent years terror groups in Gaza have employed the charming practice of launching incendiary (and sometimes explosive) balloons into southern Israel. As the Jerusalem Post reports, "Some have sparked large wildfires, mainly damaging crops."

How much of a stretch is it to wonder about possible Antifa copycats?

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/balloon-units-threaten-response-to-idf-strikes-as-new-fires-reported-638325

Dude1394 म्हणाले...

Listen FBI and democrat media. I get a LOT more truth from Facebook/blogs than I do from you. Democrat media has been telling me for months that LM/Antifa were not violently rioting, but I’m supposed to believe you now? Bullshit.

And FBI you are the most corrupt government entity in the country. You have spent the last 5 years trying to oust a president. You have NO CREDIBILITY, NONE.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

In a surprising turn in the story, it was learned that "Hot Foot Antifa Guy" didn't actually get his fire put out that night. If you watch the video carefully, he hops off down an alley, and is believed to be Footloosing his way around surrounding Portland metropolitan area.

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

"Indeed, while revenge, extremism, and profit are all recognized motivations for arson, other fire-setters seek 'thrills, attention and recognition..."

Isn't that what Vicky Osterweil said? "Looting... provides people with an imaginative sense of freedom and pleasure and helps them imagine a world that could be."

MD Greene म्हणाले...

The one known arrest is of a 41-year-old transient in Jackson County, in southwest Oregon between Medford and Ashland. A homeowner saw the man lighting the fire in the homeowner's back yard. Police found said transient very near a large burn and arrested him. The arson fire seems to have met up with another fire in the small towns of Phoenix and Talent for a nice big, scorching blaze.

I doubt the transient traveled from Portland to do what he has been charged with doing. People in that part of the state will shoot you for that sort of thing, NTTAWT.

Chuck म्हणाले...

Lol.

Is this the Althouse portal to 4Chan?

Brand म्हणाले...

I have three (3) unnamed, non-existent sources in a position to know that say Antifa is behind the fires. Does this prove it is true, or at least worthy of repeated unquestioning media coverage?

Narayanan म्हणाले...

when compiled together palterings become : A psalter

A psalter is a volume containing the devotional material with liturgical calendar and litany of the Saints. Until the later 21st century emergence of the book of uncancellables, psalters were the books most widely owned by Elite persons and were commonly used for teaching the children learning to read.

अनामित म्हणाले...

AllenS said...
Does anyone know if were thunderstorms/lightning strikes in the burn areas at the time of the fires? Thunderstorms? Can you just have lightning strikes without rain clouds around? Should be able to check if there were storms at that time, but my thinking that nobody has claimed that the fires were caused my lightning strikes leaves only one other way to start the fires. Sorry, all of you antifa and black lives matter commenters here, but your people did it.


No, we haven't had thunderstorms.

Arson investigators can analyze fire demographics. Lightning strike fires are random, and fairly evenly spread with increased clustering at higher elevations. the tell tale is fires where nobody goes to.

camp fires have a pattern

out of control burns are identifiable. muffler fires also

cigarettes out the window must be close to a road. though not many of those anymore.

arson fires start near secondary roads off rural highways. near a gravel road because your average arsonist doesn't hike. but not on the main road where the arsonist would have witnesses.

Gk1 म्हणाले...

"Debunked" You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
~Inigo Montoya

I guess we will have to see after the *ahem* smoke has cleared but how can we be so sure of anything with all the jailbirds let loose and non prosecution of thugs and degens? This would be precisely the thing to do to continue the disruption during the election.

It just may be that it has the opposite effect of undermining Trump and getting him handily re-elected. That would be consistent with the uniparty's ACME/Wile E. Coyote approach of getting Trump at all costs.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

After 9-11-01 I just assumed that the west would burn every year as a coordinated effort from Al Qaeda...the most bang for your buck terrorism I can think of.

Not surprising that the Antifa and BLM cocksuckers have figured this out.

They're dumb, but they're not Joe Biden or AOC dumb.

zefal म्हणाले...

Paltering is the new cromulent.

tcrosse म्हणाले...

The spirit of paltering appears as the paltergeist.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

why are the powers that be so interested in covering and excusing for antifa arson?

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

Jeffrey Acord, 36, was arrested Wednesday for allegedly starting a fire on State Route 167 at Meridian."

This same man was arrested in 2014 in Ferguson and "charged with possession of a concealed weapon without a permit, carrying a dangerous knife and illegal possession of fireworks."

"Debunked" seems a bit premature.

Drago म्हणाले...

LLR-lefty Chuck: "Lol. Is this the Althouse portal to 4Chan?"

Pecan-Pie Gate/Russia Collusion Truther conspiracy theorist would like to chat about conspiracies.

Discuss.

h म्हणाले...

replying to Joe Smith at 3:10. You are making an insightful point: There are lots of vulnerabilities that terrorists could exploit. Being an easterner, I hadn't considered western fires. Isn't the western water system an obvious target as well. Living in the DC area, it occurred to me that I could bring the nation's capitol to a standstill by recruiting a few friends, and driving around the beltway at the posted speed limit.

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

Also: Isn't the "six dead teachers" story a textbook example of "paltering"?

Drago म्हणाले...

D.D. Driver: "Jeffrey Acord, 36, was arrested Wednesday for allegedly starting a fire on State Route 167 at Meridian."

This same man was arrested in 2014 in Ferguson and "charged with possession of a concealed weapon without a permit, carrying a dangerous knife and illegal possession of fireworks."

"Debunked" seems a bit premature."

Actually, as the likelihood that this 2014-Ferguson firesetter/2020-Oregon firesetter is antifa approaches 100%, it will be even more important for marxists and their pals, like LLR-lefty Chuck, to preemptively "debunk" any inconvenient truths.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

proof that Climate Change causes arson.

also-- "Gwyneth" also has no origins. Hmmm.

Josephbleau म्हणाले...

“For example, the police chief in progressive Ashland, Oregon, confirmed that arson investigations by several agencies were ongoing, but that he was “100% certain” that Antifa was not responsible.“

Absolving a large diverse group of suspects before the investigation is an unserious way to solve crimes.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

@h

There are even easier ones.

Use your imagination...

Michael K म्हणाले...

AllenS said...
Does anyone know if were thunderstorms/lightning strikes in the burn areas at the time of the fires? Thunderstorms? Can you just have lightning strikes without rain clouds around?


Dry lightning strikes set the big fire in the Catalina mountains in June in AZ. I actually saw them on the mountain behind our house in Tucson. Fortunately for us, it burned the other way. 180,000 acres, I think by July. I think I also read about some lightning strikes in northern CA.

Alu Toloa म्हणाले...

One of the biggest fires, Beachie Creek, was indeed started by lighting back in August. It smoldered in its old growth wilderness habitat for weeks, and the State of Oregon [whose Fire Marshall was forced to resign today, in another indicia of the utter incompetence of Kate Brown's administration] did nothing to suppress it. It "took off" when the easterly gales fanned it into the current inferno. The Alemeda Drive fire in Jackson county that caused such devastation, was arson and an arrest has been made. No definitive word if arsonist had "political" motives. It is unknown who or what caused the other major fires in Oregon, but it wasn't lightning.
Incidentally, I-5 can cause fires...we had one near our home a couple of years ago south of Cottage Grove, when a car with defective parts sparked numerous fires on the east side of the northbound lanes. My favorite oxymoron is law enforcement saying: "We don't know what caused these fires, but it wasn't Antifa.

Unknown म्हणाले...

Wow, that was fast

I for one refuse to believe anarchists would set forest fires


Especially when "we all are told" their organization doesn't exist

The only fires they set are police union halls and federal courthouses

Especially forest fires which allow Dem governors to declare Climate Crises and thus wield Supreme Executive Power forever

https://youtu.be/Q5sFyMkmYDM?t=172 Gavin Newsome declares Climate Change responsible for wild fires

did They ever get around to debunking Project 1619?

Oh, 1619 not history, its journalism!

n.n म्हणाले...

This same man was arrested in 2014 in Ferguson and "charged with possession of a concealed weapon without a permit, carrying a dangerous knife and illegal possession of fireworks."

"Debunked" seems a bit premature.


Debunking the debunkers. JournoLism is a progressive condition.

Narayanan म्हणाले...

Author: Ashley Stewart and KING 5 News (KING)
Published: 6:21 PM PST November 26, 2014
Updated: 6:21 PM PST November 26, 2014

SEATTLE -- Seattle police arrested a 31-year-old man during Monday's Ferguson protest after officers discovered a cache of weapons, ammunition and explosives in his backpack and car.
Jeffrey Alan Acord was booked into King County Jail and on Wednesday, charged with possession of a concealed weapon without a permit, carrying a dangerous knife and illegal possession of fireworks.

for the record (to foil LLR Chuck) after fact check = TRUER than FICTION

Gabriel म्हणाले...

Wildfires have happened every year of the 33 years I have lived in Washington State. This year is worse than usual, but so it was in 2017.

The maps I'm looking at, yes it appears like they follow I-5, but if you know the geography of the area these fires are mostly happening in the places where there are trees; the middle third of Washington and Oregon east of the Cascades is desert, so you get fires through the Cascades (the "I-5" ones) and fires also in the northeastern and southeastern parts of Washington where the desert gives way to trees again.

I don't doubt there are some arsonists, even some antifa, but a lot of these fires are in places where antifa never goes, in places where you get fires nearly every year.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

Chuck wrote:

"Is this the Althouse portal to 4Chan?"

Too funny, Chuck. Did the Pastry Squad ever solve your Pecan Pie case?

ken in tx म्हणाले...

That police chief is probably so sure that Antifa is not settings the fires because he believes Antifa is a right wing myth. In his mind, it's the same as being 100% sure the Easter Bunny didn't start them.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Isn't it funny how anything that points to leftwing guilt is "debunked" by the powerful construct?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The White Left

Young, angry, entitled, stupid, white, privileged, and hot to Trotsky

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

If Antifa/BLM aren't setting the fires, why aren't they volunteering to help put them out?

Nichevo म्हणाले...

and the State of Oregon [whose Fire Marshall was forced to resign today, in another indicia of the utter incompetence of Kate Brown's administration]


Why did he resign/get resigned?

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

Facebook said that its third-party fact-checkers

AKA "censors".

GRW3 म्हणाले...

You understand that this kind of thing only works if there an underlying belief it could be true. Nobody, in their right mind, would believe "TEA Party suspected of starting forest fires..." because they are pretty well known for good cheer and leaving the sites of their protests cleaner than when they arrived (unlike the usual left wing, earth day pigstys). On the other hand, the idea of Antifa or BLM starting them is believable.