From "3 Men Marooned in the Pacific Are Rescued After Writing SOS in the Sand/Three days after their boat ran out of fuel and drifted off course in Micronesia, the men were found in good condition after a plane saw their giant plea for help spelled out on the sand" (NYT).
ADDED: My first question was: Did the "Gilligan's Island" castaways ever write "SOS" in the sand? Someone at Quora once asked: "If the castaways on Gilligan's Island had spelled out 'SOS' on the beach, with rocks, how long should it have taken before planes had noticed the distress signal?" The question suggests that they did not try this method! Click on the link if you want to read speculation about where the island was and how often planes might have flown over back in the 1960s. Or click if you want to see the many other "Gilligan's Island" questions people have asked, such as: "If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat?," "How did the Gilligan's Island survivors live on the island with no resources for several years?," "Why was Gilligan's Island named after Gilligan?," "What is something from Gilligan's Island that is really kind of dark, but gets ignored?"
And my favorite: "Why wouldn't the other men on Gilligan's island just kill Gilligan considering that he was constantly putting their lives in danger and he foiled every attempt they ever had of being rescued?" I like that somebody answered that question:
Beyond the fact that the series was a 1960s sitcom and that such a dark narrative would have proven to be difficult in the ratings department, assuming it got past CBS’ Standards and Practices?My question: If they had killed Gilligan, what arguments would each of the surviving castaways have made about whether or not to cook and eat him?
1. Two of the four men were elderly - The Skipper and Mr. Howell could have died at any moment, and likely would have, living on a deserted island with fewer calories to consume, and no access to medications or health care. That would have left the Professor alone on the island and thus fewer hands for the heavier task (Gilligan was a pack animal)
2. They were afraid that someone else would tell - Let’s say that Gilligan’s antics grew to be too much for one of the men, and they decided to murder him: How do they get away with it? Since they were always just “this close” to being rescued, Gilligan’s death would have needed an explanation. Only Mr. Howell had the wealth to get away with it, and perhaps he wasn’t willing to take the risk. (Gilligan’s death would be a criminal act)
3. The women were protecting him - The women made it abundantly clear that they would not allow any harm to come to Gilligan. Anyone who violated their wishes would have been ostracized from the group. None of the others was willing to risk their “wrath”, and so Gilligan was safe.
4. The Skipper and Gilligan’s relationship had nuances that were not possible to air on 1960s television - Not only did they sleep together in the same hut, they frequently sat very close to one another during meals and discussions. They also spent a great deal of time alone together. Given that the only Mrs. Howell ever “pair-bonded” during the series, life on a deserted island would definitely have been rough for the other men. (Gilligan as the Skipper’s partner)
5. The Skipper viewed Gilligan as being his erstwhile son - If The Skipper made it clear to the others that Gilligan was as close to him as a relative, then harming him would have been out of the question. The Skipper was very protective of Gilligan, and he treated him in manners that approximated a father-son relationship in the 1960s. (Gilligan was The Skipper’s surrogate son)
While I doubt that Sherwood Schwartz, the series’ producer, was interested in creating a morality play (or that he saw anything in the show beyond the money that it might bring in) it’s clear that there was a lot of subtext going on and that a serious scholar might one day explore the program, and how it might be a cultural touchstone to 1960s America.
११२ टिप्पण्या:
What do you do if you find yourself stranded on an entire planet of lunatics? Is there a way to make an SOS big enough?
Nonapod said...
What do you do if you find yourself stranded on an entire planet of lunatics? Is there a way to make an SOS big enough?
8/4/20, 8:58 AM
You beat me to it...exactly what I was thinking...especially here in the crazy left world of New Jersey....
I vaguely remember a Gilligan's Island episode where they were trying to signal a spaceship in orbit with a flaming "SOS" but they botched it and the astronauts mistook it for a congratulatory message rather than a call for help. Ah, yes, here it is. The episode was called "Splashdown" and "SOS" was accidentally turned into "SOL" by a Gilligan in flames. No, it did not have the modern slang meaning at the time, but it is even funnier in hindsight.
Link to the episode synopsis here:
https://gilligan.fandom.com/wiki/Splashdown
As I remember, the castaways did once spell out "SOS" on the beach, in hopes that a pair of astronauts calculated to pass directly over the island would spot it. Alas (as always), something went wrong and the burning palm logs were disarranged so that they spelt out "SOL." One of the passing spacemen spotted it but took it as a personal tribute to him, as he was named Sol. (This being '60s TV, no one translated it as "Sh*t Out of Luck.)
They did attempt to write SOS on the beach once. Gilligan accidentally set himself on fire and in the ensuing panic distorted the message to say "SOL", which was the name of the astronaut passing overhead, and he mistakes it as a hello message:
https://gilligan.fandom.com/wiki/Splashdown
Sounds like a great Agatha Christie scene with all the other (surviving) castaways in a room with Poirot going through the motives and opportunities of each one.
I vote for Lovey (Mrs. Howell). She wouldn't care about Ginger and Mary Ann ostracizing her, and if Thurston did die she would inherit everything. There would be downside risks but if the Bayesian prior is that Gilligan WAS murdered, Lovey is my vote.
...what arguments would each of the surviving castaways have made about whether or not to cook and eat him?
Skipper, being the largest and perhaps hungriest: It's what he would have wanted...
@Nonapod
"What do you do if you find yourself stranded on an entire planet of lunatics?"
Escape to Gilligan's island.
The Skipper viewed Gilligan as being his erstwhile son
Erstwhile? I think they meant ersatz.
They would have needed to fatten Gilligan up before they harvested him. Otherwise he was too stringy.
I am stuck on an inhabited island called America, and I can't go anywhere - not even Africa - and, it turns out that writing SOS in giant letters on the sand does NOT work.
it’s clear that there was a lot of subtext going on
I'll admit it's been 50 years since I have sat through a full episode this. But I think the definition of 'subtext' here means "things that only the very smart and credentialed can discern".
(did I just type "50 years ago"?) Christ! I'm getting old
There is sort of an answer to the planet of lunatics question in the sci-fi book "The Three-Body Problem."
Some folks clearly don't know their Gilligan...
They did indeed attempt to spell out "SOS" but out of burning logs on the beach, in order to get the attention of an orbiting space capsule. But Gilligan (of course) effed up the whole thing by accidentally catching himself on fire, and kicking a couple of logs so that it spelled "SOL" which just happened to be the name of one of the astronauts, who saw it and thought "hey, that's nice!" but otherwise disregarded it.
Hell, I would have killed Gilligan after that.
The answer to all of those questions: It's a TV show.
The real question is, Ginger or Mary Ann?
SOS was good but if they made a satellite phone using coconuts that would have been awesome.
where the island was
as Al Smith would say; Let's take a look, at the record
It was Supposed be a THREE HOUR TOUR.
3 hour round trip, so they weren't more than 90 minutes away from Honolulu
They had BOTH Ginger Grant AND Mary Ann
Just because TV didn't SHOW the continuous orgies; didn't mean that they weren't NIGHTLY
They HAD enough food to live on, even with the high caloric output of the nightly orgies
Ergo, Ipso facto; They Did NOT WANT to be rescued
The real question is: What did they do about the frequent pregnancies ?
Skipper, being the largest and perhaps hungriest: It's what he would have wanted...
They would have needed to fatten Gilligan up before they harvested him. Otherwise he was too stringy.
The skipper was well-marbled and would have been juicy compared to Gilligan. Plus, they could have fattened up Gilligan using the Skipper.
I hated that show.
Crack, linking to youtube videos of the sock puppett John Oliver, may endear you to woke 16 year olds, but self taught scholars here wont bite.
I can't find a link to it, but I remember a comedian doing a rap song about Gilligan's Island. The one line I can recall is, "That Mary Ann, she's one hell of a woman. She can bake a pie without flour or an oven." There was also a line about the Professor being able to make something with a coconut, "but can't fix a boat."
As to the question of Ginger or Mary Ann.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuX-xgiawRw
The real answer is:
They really didn't want to be rescued. Secretly, off camera, all them expressed happiness at being on the island. They had to keep pretending they wanted to be rescued, because that's what was expected of them. But their actions reveveled their true desire. Actions speak louder than words. We've all known people who SAY they want quit alcohol or lose weight or quit that terrible job, but they don't. Because deep down they really don't want to. Same with the castaways.
Life was pretty good on the island.
Also, given Gilligan's reaction to having Ginger kiss him, sex with her would've killed him. He would've gone with a smile on his face.
People in the 60s probably had a different reaction to the series than people like me who watched it later. Bob Denver was known as the hipster guy from Dobie Gillis and Backus was Mr. Magoo and sometimes serious actor (cf: east of eden), as was the actress who played Ginger. Alan Hale, Jnr. was always the supporting comic actor so his turning up on the show probably wasn't a surprise.
The success of the show is really due to the casting, and the chemistry between the actors. Which is why it'd be impossible to duplicate.
Ginger OR Mary Ann?
Narr
Embrace the power of AND.
Even as a little kid, I didn't think they could get lost on a 3 hour cruise. Boats don't go that far in 3 hours. Our cabin cruiser just chugged along at 5-10 MPH. I suppose the lyric just doesn't work with the words "3 day cruise".
BTW, how many "guest stars" showed up on the island and went back to civilization and NEVER told anyone to go rescue them? That was REALLY unbelievable.
It wasn't a deserted isle, it was a popular tourist destination. Oh well, back to work.
iowan2 said...
Crack, linking to youtube videos of the sock puppett John Oliver, may endear you to woke 16 year olds, but self taught scholars,..
Oh yeah: the wisdom of self-taught scholars.
I forgot [rolls eyes]
"Bob Denver was known as the hipster guy from Dobie Gillis..."
Dobie Gillis was my favorite TV show and I barely watched any Gilligan because I loved my Maynard G. Krebs. He was a similarly bumbling idiot... except that Maynard knew about jazz. Why he hung around with the friend he called "Doobie-Doo" is left to the imagination... but Dobie was extremely interested in girls and Maynard never seemed to have a corresponding interest.
When I was a kid, I thought it was great that Ginger had packed a bunch of skin-tight evening gowns to go on a 3 hour tour. Now that's old time Hollywood glamour. The stars didn't go anywhere without a plentiful supply of evening gowns, makeup and jewelry.
And millionaires never left home without a couple of suitcases of cash.
Maynard has his own Wikipedia article:
"Maynard Gwalter Krebs is the "beatnik" sidekick of the title character in the U.S. television sitcom The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, which aired on CBS from 1959 to 1963.
"The Krebs character, portrayed by actor Bob Denver, begins the series as a stereotypical beatnik, with a goatee, "hip" (slang) language, and a generally unkempt, bohemian appearance. He is always banging out a modern jazz beat with his hands, to music in his head, and he also plays jazz piano and bebop trumpet. His abhorrence of conventional social forms is signified by comical reactions to three words: "work", "marriage", and "police". For example, whenever the word "work" is mentioned, even in passing, he yelps "Work?!" and jumps with fear or even faints. He serves as a foil to the well-groomed, well-dressed, strait-laced Dobie, who also hates to work, and the contrast between the two friends provides much of the humor of the series.
"By the third season of Dobie Gillis, Maynard becomes less of the stereotypical beatnik and more a free soul who "does his own thing," as he might say—including collecting tinfoil or petrified frogs, seeing the old Endicott Building get torn down and going to see the movie The Monster That Devoured Cleveland, which perpetually ran at the Central City Bijou throughout the entire series run. In one episode, he invites Dobie to accompany him to a double-feature of the film and its sequel, Son of the Monster that Devoured Cleveland. Maynard may be described as the prototype of the late-1960s hippie. Many of the later episodes center around Maynard, with Dobie more of an observer, but always as narrator. The series lasted four years, but its popularity extended into the 1990s and 2000s as channels like Nick at Nite and Me-TV re-broadcast it for new generations.
"Maynard's middle name is Walter, named for his aunt. The "G" is silent, he would explain."
Maynard was so important! No Maynard, no hippies!
It was supposed to be a three hour cruise but the weather started getting rough and the tiny ship was tossed. The opening credits don’t say how long that took and how far off course the storm could’ve blown them. So I think we have to give more leeway than three hours. If they were to eat Gilligan, there wouldn’t be a lot to go around. And then they’d be facing the question, who’s next?
Work!!
Maynard may be described as the prototype of the late-1960s hippie.
Maynard was so important! No Maynard, no hippies!
indeed! how many woodstock hippies, grew up watching dobie, and thinking:
My old man HATES Maynard! when i grow up, i wanna be like him
Personally, i grew up watching the Brady Bunch; and thinking: i'd Sure Do Jan!
3. The women were protecting him - The women made it abundantly clear that they would not allow any harm to come to Gilligan. Anyone who violated their wishes would have been ostracized from the group. None of the others was willing to risk their “wrath”, and so Gilligan was safe.
Little known fact, Gilligan's nickname was 'The Hawser', and with good reason!
Actually, Maynard was a Beatnik. Hippies had not yet been invented, and in any case were a whole different kettle of fish.
Backus was Mr. Magoo
To me, Backus will always be Tyler "What could happen to an old fashioned?" Fitzgerald.
Alan Hale, Jnr.
Is it true that George Kennedy was Hale's evil twin? No.
Since we are questioning the realism of Gilligan's Island, how is it that Althouse comments show up immediately? Seems like favoritism....
[wait..a..minute...]
First, the castaways did not subscribe to the Pro-Choice quasi-religion (e.g. "ethics"). Second, Gilligan did the heavy lifting, so it was not a net-zero relatonship. Also, he liked Marianne, and was intimidated by Ginger; but, this is not evidence that he was transgender, even though today's censors think that is trendy. In forward-looking religious/moral codes, it is common for men to offer women a separate space in order to preserve their feminine virtue. This was before the progress of polygamy without responsibility (e.g. friendship with "benefits") and Planned Parenthood to cancel "burdens".
but self taught scholars here wont bite
I'm self-unemployed.
Thalia Menninger. The unobtainable.
I grew up a working class kid, and I met my share of Thalia Menningers along the way. I wound up with a Zelda who looks like she's a Thalia until she opens her mouth.
I'm a lucky man. Life lessons. Dobie had a lot to learn, which was the premise of the whole show.
Modern societies embrace clinical cannibalism under the guise of social progress, social justice, and other colorful euphemisms.
"what arguments would each of the surviving castaways have made about whether or not to cook and eat him?" Ginger: 'Cannibalism is a really bad idea. Worse than cows, even worse than pigs (trichonosis). You can catch anything at all from a human being. Google "laughing sickness" if you aren't eating lunch.'
You got me thinking.
My favorite Dobie Gillis character was the nerdy girl, Zelda. The smartest one of the bunch.
A few years later I found a "Zelda" in real life. I married her.
Never made the connection before.
and why, when I finally got to meet Tina Louise
... she was elderly, and it was in church?
"The real question is: What did they do about the frequent pregnancies ?"
They did what the Polynesians and Edo-era Japanese did: killed them. The Polynesians tossed them off a cliff and the Japanese starved them. (Source: Mabiki: Infanticide and Population Growth in Eastern Japan, 1660-1950, by Fabian Franz Drixler)
That would have left the Professor alone on the island...
with Ginger AND Mary Ann! Adios Gilligan.
All the countries suddenly getting into space exploration should pool resources and put a huge SOS on the moon.
Damnit, and now I am going to spend the next two days muttering "three hour cruise, three hour cruise".
I think you would get more meals out of Skipper than Gilligan.
Why didn’t Gilligan kill the skipper? He was probably a fuck up mostly because he was under the skipper’s thumb, dominated and browbeaten. It’s one thing if it’s his job to take take that abuse, quite another if it’s his life. Gilligan was weak and easygoing, but straitened circumstances can harden a man, and he was a young man, even though everyone called him a boy. He could easily have passed off the death as accidental.
Instead of killing, he could have usurped his leadership by teaming up with the professor, and maybe some others, to overthrow him. A leader has fewer opportunities to personally make mistakes, and more to punish underlings for theirs. A commander can make mistakes and shrug; he makes executive decisions, and to whom does he answer? He can boldly or carelessly make mistakes, and blame others if necessary.
I can imagine the tables turning, and Gilligan saying to his boss, “Look at me. I’m the skipper now.”
It's obvious the Professor sabotaged any rescue attempts so he could have Ginger and Mary Ann to himself.
Also, the three-hour cruise didn’t mean they were three hours from port when stranded. We don’t know how long the storm lasted, or how far it took them.
Like Yancey, I have the theme song stuck in my head.
"Three days after their boat ran out of fuel and drifted off course in Micronesia, the men were found in good condition after a plane saw their giant plea for help spelled out on the sand." Uh, no. "The plane" saw nothing.
They did what the Polynesians and Edo-era Japanese did
that's pretty much, what i figured... It seems like there was a LOT going on on that island, that didn't get filmed
Since Hollywood is creatively bankrupt and remakes everything, they should remake comedies as serious dramas and shit.
Like do Gilligan's Island but make it a terrifying ordeal for survival.
Cast:
Elijah Wood as Gilligan.
John Goodman as the Skipper.
Hugh Grant as Mr. Howell.
Kathy Griffin as Mrs. Howell.
Jennifer Lawrence as Ginger.
Jeff Goldblum as the Professor.
Zooey Deschanel as Mary Ann.
Just throw in cannibalism, some pythons, tropical diseases and such.
And at the end Tom Hanks comes to rescue them but they're all dead.
Now use this formula with all other desiccated sitcoms.
All the countries suddenly getting into space exploration should pool resources and put a huge SOS on the moon.
Heinlein wrote about this in the man who sold the moon, using using a rocket to scatter black dust on the surface in patterns.
He suggested writing Moka Kola to Us (the United States, and a hammer and sickle to Them (The Hordes of Eastern Mongolia)
Kill Gilligan would be a great band name.
If they were to eat Gilligan, there wouldn’t be a lot to go around. And then they’d be facing the question, who’s next?
I think i'd want to eat Mary Ann. I Really like Ginger better, but i think she'd been around the block a few too many times for eating
maybe we're talking about different things?
Each of the five passengers engaged in an emotional confrontation with Randolph Blake on the night before they sailed together. It seems very likely that their presence on the boat was no coincidence, but a master manipulation by Blake to put all his antagonists "to sea" at a single stroke. I suspect that Blake intended to sink the Minnow, but the plan died with Blake's own implausible demise.
“ Actually, Maynard was a Beatnik. Hippies had not yet been invented, and in any case were a whole different kettle of fish.”
That’s why the word “prototype “ was used.
"Now use this formula with all other desiccated sitcoms."
Hazel is the one sitcom that could improve with updating. Extension of her buttinsky-know-it-allism into erotic areas could be very funny.
> Two of the four men were elderly - The Skipper and Mr. Howell
Alan Hale, Jr (who played the Skipper) was 43 in 1964, the first year of the series. He was only 3 years older than Russell Johnson (the Professor).
Jim Backus (Mr. Howell) was 51 in 1964, which I wouldn't exactly call "elderly" either.
Uh, no. "The plane" saw nothing.
It was a U-2.
“ ...whether or not to cook and eat him?”
Do NOT cook Gilligan.
Make ceviche.
"In the months that followed I tried to reconstruct as precisely as possible what had happened on ‘Ata. Peter’s memory turned out to be excellent. Even at the age of 90, everything he recounted was consistent with my foremost other source, Mano, 15 years old at the time and now pushing 70, who lived just a few hours’ drive from him. The real Lord of the Flies, Mano told us, began in June 1965. The protagonists were six boys – Sione, Stephen, Kolo, David, Luke and Mano – all pupils at a strict Catholic boarding school in Nuku‘alofa. The oldest was 16, the youngest 13, and they had one main thing in common: they were bored witless. So they came up with a plan to escape: to Fiji, some 500 miles away, or even all the way to New Zealand."
"There was only one obstacle. None of them owned a boat, so they decided to “borrow” one from Mr Taniela Uhila, a fisherman they all disliked. The boys took little time to prepare for the voyage. Two sacks of bananas, a few coconuts and a small gas burner were all the supplies they packed. It didn’t occur to any of them to bring a map, let alone a compass."
From The real Lord of the Flies: What happened when six boys were shipwrecked for 15 months
Zelda was a lesbian
Ginger
“ The answer to all of those questions: It's a TV show.
The real question is, Ginger or Mary Ann?
8/4/20, 9:43 AM”
When I was younger, my answer would have been, “Ginger.”
My older (and wiser?) self would answer, “Mary Ann.”
If they had killed Gilligan, what arguments would each of the surviving castaways have made about whether or not to cook and eat him?
And you, a law professor!
They were on a tropical island with, one would assume, fish and fruits readily available. Much better and healthier alternatives to human flesh (especially for the protagonist). Not the Donner party situation by any stretch of the imagination!
"What would Gilligan's Island have been like if the Professor was actually a Law Professor?"
@Narr
The correct answer : )
Lord Somber suggested....
Like do Gilligan's Island but make it a terrifying ordeal for survival.
Cast:
Elijah Wood as Gilligan.
John Goodman as the Skipper.
Hugh Grant as Mr. Howell.
Kathy Griffin as Mrs. Howell.
Jennifer Lawrence as Ginger.
Jeff Goldblum as the Professor.
Zooey Deschanel as Mary Ann.
I like your casting ideas, but rather than a 'terrifying ordeal for survival'; make it like Riverdale, or Sabrina.... Where everyone is a Slutty Evil person, and explore the darkness hidden behind its seemingly perfect image.
It could be a Real Winner
Always liked Stairway to Gilligan's Island.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=wT35Y-51LYg&feature=emb_logo
Then there's the Puddles Pity Party version ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=VmAddzDWZeo&feature=emb_logo
Howard said...
Zelda was a lesbian
Wrong. The actress who played Zelda was (and probably still is) a lesbian. Zelda was in love with Dobie.
Pretty obvious and mentioned previously: if you don't have Gilligan you don't have a show. Talk about jumping the shark.
Once in awhile, I come across something that makes me mildly happy that I'm deficient in my knowledge of popular culture. This is one. I never watched a single episode of this program.
I'd like to claim I spent my time learning ancient Greek or analyzing Shakespeare's plays but I probably just watch the news.
"Why wouldn't the other men on Gilligan's island just kill Gilligan considering that he was constantly putting their lives in danger and he foiled every attempt they ever had of being rescued?"
Cause they would have to live with what they did.
As for SOS... that stuff has been around a long time.
"SOS originated in German government maritime radio regulations adopted effective 1 April 1905. It became a worldwide standard when it was included in the service regulations of the first International Radiotelegraph Convention signed on 3 November 1906, which became effective on 1 July 1908"
It's hard to mistake a large S O S sign...
The reason the Gilligan's Island crew never got rescued is they were dead. That they were dead and living a ghost life is the only thing that explains the crazy plot points.
whether or not to cook and eat him?
Now you're starting to worry me, Ann.
I was annoyed back then that they'd taken the cool Krebs and made him a doofus Gi;ligan. Thing I wonder is were the hippies more like Krebs or more like Gilligan.
Um, the last thing I'd be doing if I was 'stuck' on an island with Ginger and Mary Ann is finding a way to get off it.
In the 1970s specials, which occurred after being rescued the first time, none of the castaways really enjoy being back in civilization. They eventually found a resort on the island and live there, though with significantly more amenities and visitors than back in the coconut technology days.
Had they been rescued after a few days, Gilligan's Island would have been the shortest American sitcom ever.
I always figured they were on Niihau and they didn't kill Gilligan because they'd then have to change the name of the show.
Um, the last thing I'd be doing if I was 'stuck' on an island with Ginger and Mary Ann is finding a way to get off it.
I'd figure out a way to get off.
Blogger Howard said..."Ginger"
Figures.
I don't think I've ever seen a Dobie Gillis show.
Even as a child watching reruns of GI, Thurston Howell and the skipper never seemed elderly to me. Skipper seemed about my dad’s age, hardy and Hale, and Howell a bit older. Gilligan looked and acted young, but I knew he was a grown man, and apparently Bob Denver was nearly 30 when the show started.
Mrs. Howell seemed oddly old, not nursing-home old, but old for being married to Thurston. Turns out Natalie Schaefer was 13 years older than Jim Backus.
Actually met Dawn Wells at one of her book signings. She's just as nice as you'd expect.
It would be a nice piece of Cultural Anthropology to interrogate the differences between the Beatnik and the Hippie.
""If you ever find yourself stuck on an uninhabited island in the Pacific, it turns out that writing SOS in giant letters on the sand works.""
I would say it works sometimes.
Survivor bias.
I think Gilligan's Island is the first TV show I saw in color. Next door neighbors got a color TV and it was a neighborhood sensation.
Jim at 3:23 p.m. -- That sentence only made sense with the "it" at the end.
"What would Gilligan's Island have been like if the Professor was actually a Law Professor?"
He would sue the captain and first mate for breach of contract. Target the millionaire and his wife for redistributive change. Demand abortion rites for Marianne. And exploit Ginger as a feminist for leverage. Then there are the lawsuits about climate change, including neighboring cannibal refugees, and an em-pathetic demand for action.
"What would Gilligan's Island have been like if the Professor was actually a Law Professor?"
He would sue the captain and first mate for breach of contract. Target the millionaire and his wife for redistributive change. Demand abortion rites for Marianne. And exploit Ginger as a feminist for leverage. Then there are the lawsuits about climate change, including neighboring cannibal refugees, and an em-pathetic demand for action.
"What would Gilligan's Island have been like if the Professor was actually a Law Professor?"
They would have all died.
How many times did the Professor save their bacon?
Dave in Tucson: Jim Backus (Mr. Howell) was 51 in 1964, which I wouldn't exactly call "elderly" either.
Considering I'll be 52 on Friday, I'd have to agree.
I think Alan Hale was sometimes thought older than he was because he was basically a carbon copy of his father, who played similar roles stretching back into the silent area.
@Char Char Binks:
Also, the three-hour cruise didn’t mean they were three hours from port when stranded. We don’t know how long the storm lasted, or how far it took them.
Exactly the same plot point as for Cast Away.
I watched the unaired pilot once on youtube, with different actors/characters in place of the Professor, Ginger, and Mary Ann. A stroke of casting/story genius to make the switch.
"If they had killed Gilligan, what arguments would each of the surviving castaways have made about whether or not to cook and eat him?"
In favor: The Professor, Mr Howe, I don't need to break down the arguments if you know the characters.
Opposed: Mrs Howe, Ginger, I also don't need to break down arguments.
Abstain or unknown: Skipper, Maryanne, both were close to Gilligan, but also have practical reasons for eating him, the Skipper looked like he enjoyed a meal, and Marianne was a farm girl.
"Now use this formula with all other desiccated sitcoms."
Yes! The Brady Bunch as reimagined by Todd Solondz, Three's Company as reimagined by David Fincher, Happy Days as reimagined by Martin Scorsese, Gomer Pyle as reimagined by Oliver Stone, Cheers as reimagined by Laslo Spatula.
"The reason the Gilligan's Island crew never got rescued is they were dead. That they were dead and living a ghost life is the only thing that explains the crazy plot points.
That explains the life preserver in Lost that had "The Minnow" on it.
As for SOS... that stuff has been around a long time
It was probably chosen because its Morse code is 3 dots, 3 dashes, 3 dots, which makes it simple and distinctive.
Gilligan's Island was a throwback to when comedy series were fun, if somewhat lame. They were a departure from earlier series that were small Judeo-Christian morality plays.
Many of us grew up on those series and developed a sense of perspective and ethics from them. With Gilligan, Beverly Hillbillies and the like, there was more entertainment and less morality. As things evolved, the morality became absent or somewhat distorted.
>>Actually met Dawn Wells at one of her book signings. She's just as nice as you'd expect.
Indeed.
After the show ended, she was starring in a play at a local theater. She made a tour of many of the local elementary schools, and the kids loved her! It was a sensation to see in person somebody from a show we all watched!
They should of killed and eaten the millionaire and his wife before they probably inspired Green Acres.
I can't find the link now, but last year I found a site where someone posted excerpts from the Gilligans Island writers bible with the characters back stories, and names that never make it on screen.
In there it mention that Gilligan saved the Skippers life while they were shipmates in the Navy. It was the Skipper paying off that debt is the reason why he made sure Gilligan survived on the island.
The site also mentioned the entire cast signed up for what they thought was an unsellable pilot so they could get a paid trip to Hawaii where it was shot. They all guessed wrong on that.
I know of two beaches here on Kauai I am completely convinced the Gilligan crew was filmed, we even have a lounge named after them.
See Moloa’a beach, he even stayed in the same hotel we got married. Right up there with Elvis , Coco Palms
Maynard rocked!
Great post AA, mahalo.
The golden age of tv comedy because it was about class. Just like British sbows.
"The golden age of tv comedy because it was about class. Just like British sbows."
In the early 60s, there were sitcom episodes (see, for instance Hazel and My Three Sons) that focused right on formal, snootier-than-thou class divisions. Those went away when "realistic" shows attacked race/sex divisions instead of class divisions. This allowed producers to see themselves as crusaders while remaining comfortable on their gated estates.
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