Conservatives knew exactly what they were getting when they voted for Trump, rough edges and all. I don't think Democrats expected to get . . . whatever this is . . . from Biden. There is no longer any good excuse for letting this go on. https://t.co/7yvJ4U1FUY— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) May 14, 2020
ADDED: The coherence of a transcript depends a lot on punctuation, and you can help or hurt the person you're transcribing. I've seen this done to Trump (and blogged about it). With this Biden transcription, it could be done like this: "We're in the middle of a pandemic that has cost us more than 85,000 jobs as of today — lives. Of millions of people — millions of people — millions of jobs."
I know, that's still bad, but you can heighten the sense that he knew he had it flipped and he was in the process of straightening it out, before us, in real time. And yet, that does seem consistent with a journey into dementia. You can be patient and sympathetic toward a person in that condition as they struggle to organize their thinking as they are speaking aloud to you, but THERE IS NO WAY that is acceptable in a President of the United States.
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Biden is either a) the sacrificial lamb cause the DNC knows they are toast this year OR b) a place-holder for their late to the party savior. Could be he is both, (b) if the DNC thinks they can get away with it and (a) if they can't.
Sounded like he initially said, "Billions" of people, and then corrected it, and then corrected it to jobs. And he sounds like he hadn't figured out the "unemployment insurance" thing until later. Pretty confused, especially reading off a teleprompter.
And he partially corrects himself in the end--millions of people, millions of jobs.
I don't see it as any big deal either, but there's still (and always) the hypocrisy angle. 20 years ago, it would have been Joe being Joe. Today it's not even that. They'll just ignore it. If this were said by a Republican (Sarah Palin? Trump?), it would be front page news and highlighted on every late-night talk show.
Well, it puts the lie to that hilarious advice from the other day: Biden doesn't even do well when he's reading. He clearly loses his place, and while he eventually regains his place in the text, the emotion/emphasis/content remain out of sync like a bad sound sync. He can't really even deliver prepared remarks convincingly, so if you're already on the lookout for signs of deterioration, and been paying attention, it does look as though he's getting worse as the campaign drags on. He wasn't this bad a couple of months ago. Stress and anxiety are not only very common in progressive dementia cases, they can exacerbate the symptoms.
It's clear that he has no connection to the content he is delivering. There's an uncanny valley thing going on with him. It's taking the Creepy Joe nickname and giving it a whole new connotation.
Not a big deal if this type of mistake had only happened once or twice, but there is something similar almost every time he speaks.
I'd go with Wernicke's aphasia, not dementia.
At the moment Biden is the generic democrat, not explicitly Biden.
Semantic dementia. His speech is far from fluid, and you can watch him struggle for words.
He's promised to appooint a qualified woman as VP. Qualified woman means not as bad as most women.
I saw similar problems with my dad who I cared for the last 3 years of his life. Dementia is a terrible disease and it's progression is brutal to watch. It's easy to diagnose. The brain shrinks and that is very visible in an MRI or CAT-scan. Also there's this fun little memory test they do. It's used do to see if seniors can quality for assisted living or must go into lock down in memory care. It's surprisingly difficult and I had trouble passing it.
Dan Quayle couldn't spell "potato".
Joe Biden can't remember what a potato is.
His speech doesn't have the normal dysfluencies - ah, umm etc. Wernicke's area stroke probably.
Biden's problems aren't a problem if you don't vote for him.
Sorry. That was cruel.
But this is who the Democrats want us to vote for for President.
Jersey Fled, you take that back you potato eatin’ lizard wrastler.
Why are we being gas lighted.
Biden is clearly in mental decline. That's not political snark. How can the Dems be serious about this? Biden's wife? She doesn't love him enough to protect him from the humiliation? And the media just keeps smiling like this is all normal.
Then we have massive evidence that Obama was spying on a political campaign. Crickets.
All this happening with govts at all levels arresting, fining, shaming citizens that only want to feed themselves and their families.
His senile codgerdom is a feature, not a bug! You'll be able to rest easy knowing that the Top Men of our beloved Deep State are calling all the shots.
Like Lewis above I've watched this close up before, and "ah" "uhm" is not necessarily to be expected. The dissociation and lack of appropriate emotional response is what happens after dementia has progressed, and the substitution of generic words (thing is used a lot in conversation) as well as over-emoting especially "flat" but inappropriate emotional expression is common. Biden can't emote properly.
Jersey Fled said...Dan Quayle couldn't spell "potato".
That was a fake scandal. He held in his hand a card given him by the school that had "potato" spelled "potatoe," which is an accepted variant.
"Not a big deal if this type of mistake had only happened once or twice, but there is something similar almost every time he speaks."
Agreed. I would also give him a pass on this sort of thing if it happened during an interaction where he was speaking contemporaneously. But FFS he's reading and presumably read it once or twice, at least, in preparation for this performance.
I expect that the Democrat Party leadership, and their big donors, are seeing this and then rubbing their eyes and covering their face with their hands. Lots of sighing.
"That's all Joe there."
No - there has been a significant increase recently in the frequency of his gaffes
Although he did sigh at the correct moment in that Stephanopoulos interview, right before he dived into a lie that would be revealed as such within 12 hours. It's like he saw the future.
The Dems know this. And behind the scenes there is already a whoop-ass battle going on as to who they'll replace Biden with, and when to do it. This is the ongoing battle. This bullshit about his binder of women that he's considering for the Veep slot is just letting him play out what they need played out. But behind this, it's all being brain stormed, polled, configured, and baked.
This is like an inner party coup. They've got time to lay it out on us. When they finally announce it's Cuomo, the people (media) will rejoice. And if they're smart, they'll do it with only 2 months to go before the election. The press can cover him up for 2 months.
99% of the electorate already know for whom they will vote.
This stuff only matters if it affects turnout or electoral fraud.
Even without the accidental switching of the numbers, he still sounds like he's struggling to voice a coherent thought. I've been thinking this for awhile now. It's not just his gaffes. It's the whole presentation. It's the way he often cuts himself off when he clearly can't recall what he was just saying. I've never liked him, but I can remember when he was a normal bloviating politician. He at least could construct a paragraph. This is something different. It's also getting worse, and I don't think he'll make it to November.
You used to be able to blame this stuff on the rigors of campaigning.
Not this year.
As a stand-alone interview, it's simply a very minor gaffe.
However, it fits neatly In the context of a 50-year Washington DC swamp-dweller, who:
a. Sniffs women's hair
b. Grabbed a staffer by the pussy
c. Swam nude in his pool - as VP - pissing off female secret service agents.
d. Has 20 video clips of being handsy and gropey with female kids
e. Tells goofy stories about CornPop and black Delaware kids rubbing his hairy legs
f. forgets what state he's in
g. has a grifter son who got kicked out of the Navy for being a cokehead
h. has a grifter son who knocked up an Arkansas stripper
i. has a grifter son who is a part-time Ukrainian energy expert and part-time Chinese investment banker, bilking foreign companies for millions of dollars
j. has a "No Malarkey" sign on his tour bus; and
k. regularly bumbles, mumbles, and stumbles thru softball interviews by his media allies
So, Yes, we all know how bad the Dems/Media scribes/#NeverTrumpers want to beat Trump. But propping up this 77-year old, clearly demented figurehead as their standard-bearer, just shows you how lost these clowns truly are.
I remember the constant horror in the media starting from day 1 that Reagan was a doddering fool. He was nothing of the sort even if, in the end, Alzheimer’s got him.
The plan here for the lefties is to ensure that there is a quick and smooth transition to his retirement from office which is why Michelle is not out of the question as his running mate. She would also make it a contest in Nov.
- Krumhorn
I wonder if, Biden wins..Will it be okay for the Trump administration to do the same things to Delusional Joe, as the Obama administration did to him?? Unfortunately for Trump, he doesn't have the intelligence agencies and the media in his back pocket to help him. But seriously, can you imagine if The Bushes did what the Obamas did??? How would the swooning, media feel then?? I bet they wouldn't be ignoring it like they did when Obama did it, and then when they get caught, blame it on Trump. These people are as delusional as Old Joe.
Temujin said...This is like an inner party coup. They've got time to lay it out on us. When they finally announce it's Cuomo, the people (media) will rejoice. And if they're smart, they'll do it with only 2 months to go before the election. The press can cover him up for 2 months.
You mean the press can cover FOR him. He has said there is no place in New York for Pro Lifers. And the same to Guns Rights people (he obviously never goes upstate where the "rednecks" are) He passed the killing babies up to the day of birth and then lit up the Empire State Building to rub it in our faces. He put infected covid patients in nursing homes where they are infecting others, (including the home my Mother in law is in)
He isn't a great governor, he is a career politician who was married to a Kennedy and thinks he is Ruler of all. I hope people wake up.
As rhhardin said: Do we want to make Biden's problem the Nation's problem? I don't think so.
At the moment Biden is the generic democrat, not explicitly Biden.
The parody of loyally voting for the generic democrat is voting for a ham sandwich. At this point the media would have a better time promoting the ham sandwich.
Trump will experience a shattering victory this fall on the order of FDR's massive 1936 reelection, LBJ's '64 win, and Reagan's '84 landslide, and the Democrats will be out of power for a dozen more years.
We're at war against a virus and may soon be at war against China.
Trump saved the union by defeating a coup d'etat led by his predecessor.
Democratic issues such as the environment and social justice are worthless in a near depression economic environment.
Biden has a foot in the grave, and if the Democrats wrangle over a replacement, the optics will be bad, and there will be so much bad blood in among Democrats, they won't get out the vote.
"— lives. Of millions of people —" Sorry, Anne, it's clear he wasn't punctuating it that way. Not that it matters that much. Let's wait for the next video. Sigh.
"THERE IS NO WAY that is acceptable in a President of the United States."
True, but there is a way it's acceptable: for Dems who don't give a damn about the actual president's actual abilities, and would be happy for Joe to be the figurehead of a prog administration. Millions of people have already voted for this man.
"Dollars to donuts" [as they used to say] that the Democrats pull a 'Torricelli' on Biden, suddenly replacing him late in the race. It violated NJ law, but Democrats don't care about such things. Only winning.
slo jo, the solon of Scranton, irony, has been the piano player in the saloon, but he was payed by the credit card companies, the big money laundries like privat bank to look the other way, just like banamex paid 50 k to mueller, hsbc kept comey on retainer judge Gleeson slapped their hand,
For Biden to win the coronavirus impact needs to be devastating. All hail Trumpius Caesar.
I’m embarrassed for him, and cannot believe his wife or anyone who cares about him allows this to continue. It stuns me in fact, and makes me question their humanity. I mean, really, where do you draw the line on exploitation of the mentally challenged? It’s disgusting but typical of that party: talk a good game about how they care so much more about people, and then do transparently disgusting crap like this.
This guy in charge of anything more than watering the lawn is just a non-starter, and anyone who cannot see that, I would question their own connection to reality.
The whole thing is a giant shitshow.
Howard said...
For Biden to win the coronavirus impact needs to be devastating.
I think we passed that point three trillion dollars ago. Now the question is how devastating.
No, it is not acceptable for a President. But it is wonderful for a Democratic Party candidate for President.
Lol, things are going great for Mr. Electability, I see.
It's acceptable if your goal is to sneak in your preferred President as a VP long enough for inauguration day.
Dems:
1. We have massive unemployment
2. We must not allow people to go back to work
well Mallory archer, is another one, Pelosi does fit the deranged matriarch type, she directed perhaps a third of the 2 trillion dollars to businesses and households, lots of money to Harvard, and the seattle times, I know crocodile tears,
Two points:
1. He says "billions of people" before correcting himself to millions of people, then millions of jobs.
2. We all know that if George W. Bush had said this, members of the media and Democratic activists (but I repeat myself) would have repeated this clip endlessly as proof that Bush was a moron who shouldn't be President. We all know that Biden will not be treated the same way do to the (D) after his name.
ARM: deaths North of 150K give or take... depending on the breaks.
Knowing Biden unmasked Flynn tells us only a little bit of the story. How many other people did Biden unmask in 2016? Having that info would tell us a lot more as to whether it was a routine part of his job. Same with Samantha Power.
In fact, Grenell should release the totals for all the unmaskers. I have a feeling the Obama Admin was just full of "gossipy girls" including the men. None of them did any real work. They just played at being Master of the Universe.
This is no big deal except he hasn't gotten through a single day yet without doing this or much worse. Putin isn't going to forgive being called "Cornpop".
"deaths North of 150K give or take... depending on the breaks."
Keep hope alive.
The parody of loyally voting for the generic democrat is voting for a ham sandwich. At this point the media would have a better time promoting the ham sandwich.
That's a "yellow dog". The ham sandwich thing is grand-juries & indictments..
The Trump voter thing is "crawl over broken glass".
Or, you know, mix 'em up: I'd crawl over a yellow dog to vote for Trump.
THERE IS NO WAY that is acceptable in a President of the United States
@Althouse, I read this to mean that you are okay with Slow Joe’s corruption, using his son as a cut-out to collect bribes from Ukraine and China (CHINA!!!) and who knows who else; getting handsy with women, including adolescent girls; and a creditable accusation of rape. But botching reading from a teleprompter is a step too far in your opinion.
Good to know.
depends how many old people, Cuomo, murphy, whitmer, and co, kill howard, they do seem to be a competition like death race 2000
The Democrats should just bite the bullet and replace Biden with Nancy Pelosi.
After all, she's third in line and I've seen several articles on how wonderful it would be if both Trump and Pence were gone and Nancy took over.
Let America have to opportunity to find out how wonderful it would be!
The full Biden quote re Tara Reade: “They should vote their heart and if they believe Tara Reade they probably shouldn't vote for me. I wouldn't vote for me if I believed Tara Reade. The fact is that look at Tara Reade’s story, it changes considerably."
"And but I don't want to question her motive, I don't want to question anything, other than to say the truth matters. This has been vetted. It's been vetted, they went and people interviewed scores of my employees over my whole career."
"This is just totally thoroughly completely out of character and the idea that in a public place, in a hallway, I would assault a woman. I mean, I, anyway, I promise you, it never happened. It should be vetted."
"She should be thoroughly looked at and whether or not these happened. Look at the story, follow the storyline and determine whether there's any truth to it, and there is no truth to it, I promise you.”
His Brain?
No. His Heart — Still No
The Democrats should just bite the bullet and replace Biden with Nancy Pelosi.
After all, she's third in line and I've seen several articles on how wonderful it would be if both Trump and Pence were gone and Nancy took over.
Let America have to opportunity to find out how wonderful it would be!
He possibly needs a new prescription for contacts. Or he could just wear specs, at least for reading.
but THERE IS NO WAY that is acceptable in a President of the United States.
If they debate, Trump will beclown Biden, and we will be told that Althouse can't vote for someone who is cruel to the handicapped, and that Biden is obviously just a place holder, and that's why she voted for Biden.
that's right bagoh2o, I hope it is the viral nothing burger you people believe.
This is one reason I support smoke-filled-rooms over primaries. If candidate selection were in the hands of the party elders, replacing him wouldn't be so onerous.
Asked by MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell on Thursday if he remembers Reade, Biden said: “To be honest with you, I don’t.”
Now that is sadly believable.
FOLK WE ARE BEING PLAYED. THIS IS a TAPE.
If biden were really that bad, his handlers would keep trying until biden got it right.
we are being played. "oh look how awful... ." right.
Q the Hillary power whore.
The left are cheering on the destruction of our economy.
Anything for team D.
Hillary didn't want to compete in a messy primary. They will hand it to her soon.
The idea that we would willingly give him control of the nuclear trigger is mind-boggling, particularly during a time when China is flexing serious military muscle.
He can't even read off a teleprompter without getting confused.
Here's the solution for Dems: Sleepy Joe "suddenly comes down with" Covid -19. No need for him to actually get it, but he can exit stage left without any controversy. Problem solved.
We’ve gotten used to the word salad that comes out of Trump’s mouth. We’ll get used to Biden’s confused speech too.
“You can be patient and sympathetic toward a person in that condition as they struggle to organize their thinking as they are speaking aloud to you, but THERE IS NO WAY that is acceptable in a President of the United States.“
I agree with this, but it goes for Trump too.
I really do feel for Biden. My father passed away from dementia last year. Joe's progression seems very similar. This disease affects it's victims both cognitively and physically. The comparison of Joe in 2016 vs. today is stark.
I do find it interesting that his campaign makes no effort to hide his deteriorating condition. It almost makes me wonder if they are purposely trying to undermine him to get a replacement named now that the primaries are basically done.
And of course Inga the State's Handmaiden is sympathetic to Biden, the Abe Simpson of politics, because . . . well, who's the bigger statist, Biden or Trump?
just like walter Ulbricht, first puppet prime minister of the gdr,
Inga: Trump and speech issues only come from him speaking extemporaneously and off the cuff. When he reads from the teleprompter or from a prepared test he has zero problems. Biden cannot even read a text right. Repeatedly he gets it wrong.
Howard said...
For Biden to win the coronavirus impact needs to be devastating. All hail Trumpius Caesar.
5/15/20, 7:52 AM
The problem with this theory is that Trump's core commercials are going to say "look at the red states where I'm popular. They're doing better. Now look at the urban shitholes that Dems rule. Total collapse. And they want bailouts. I say, they can FUCK THEMSELVES." It might even use those words.
We're going to enter the stage of this thing where elites are going to demand pay and bailouts for doing nothing all crisis, while the productive states flip them off. It's going to be a wild scene, man. You're a halfway-honest dude, so I actually do hope you're ready.
“Trump and speech issues only come from him speaking extemporaneously and off the cuff. When he reads from the teleprompter or from a prepared test he has zero problems.”
Oh really?
It's absolutely incredible to me that the Dems let this happen. Have they never heard of film or videotape? Editing? And even if it's live, can't the man read off a friggin' teleprompter correctly? Damn it, man, you want to be POTUS, not chairman of the Environmental Review Board of a small town in upstate New York! (Full disclosure: I used to chairman of the Environmental Review Board of my small town in upstate New York.)
Sure, Trump says stupid stuff all the time, but it's all off-the-cuff, never scripted. When he does actually read a script, he usually nails it. But Biden...it's just incredible.
Incredible!
Legally, it's "persons". Conscientious slip? Losing his religion? While Her Choice has produced excess deaths through social contagion, cross-contamination, globalism, immigration reform, and negligent reporting at the source, it aspires to her Choice that has produced millions of excess deaths, planned deaths, globally.
Howard: "ARM: deaths North of 150K give or take... depending on the breaks."
Not to worry. The dems are juicing the numbers on the virus that came from ARM's Beloved and Heroic People's Republic Of China ChiCom's lab.
A CO coroner is currently fighting against the state because a dude who drank himself to death is being listed as a General Tso Sicken victim:
"When police in Cortez, Colorado were called to Cortez City Park early on the morning of May 4, they found Sebastian Yellow, 35, lying on the ground and called it out as a code “Frank,” meaning Yellow had died, according to a police report obtained by CBS4.
Within a week, local Montezuma County Coroner George Deavers determined Yellow had died of acute alcohol poisoning, his blood alcohol measured at .55, nearly twice the lethal limit.
“It was almost double what the minimum lethal amount was in the state”, said Deavers, during an interview with CBS4.
But Deavers said that before he even signed the death certificate, the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment had already categorized Yellow’s death as being due to COVID-19 and it was tabulated that way on the state’s website.
“I can see no reason for this”, said Deavers."
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/05/14/coronavirus-montezuma-county-coroner-alcohol-poisoning-covid-death/
Sorry Dr Deavers. But we all see the actual reason for this.
BTW, have you seen the video of Biden attempting to respond in real time to a pre-recorded questioner?
LOL
Hilarious.
And sad.
But pretty hilarious.
Inga: "Oh really?"
Yes, just like Obama.
Biden has gone from, "Folks,...." to "Th-Th-The, Th-Th-The, Th-Th... That's all, folks!"
An unbiased media would have exposed and highlighted Biden's issues early in the primary season and the Democrats would have a different probable nominee.
They didn't because he is a Democrat. Now they're stuck with him.
"They should vote their heart and if they believe Tara Reade they probably shouldn't vote for me. I wouldn't vote for me if I believed Tara Reade."
---Joe Biden, 5/15/2020
I completely agree Joe (or whichever staffer wrote that answer that you read on camera)
BleachBit-and-Hammers said... Hillary didn't want to compete in a messy primary. They will hand it to her soon.
I am coming around to that opinion.
As long as Michele prefers her American Royalty status, Hillary is the front runner.
Must remember that a lot (most?) people don't / aren't seeing this. I've mentioned that Biden simply doesn't seem all there (to put it charitably) and my better half stares at me like I'm crazy. Literally she has no idea what I'm talking about. When you only get your news from Facebook re-posting of NYT & WAPO articles this is what happens.
So which is the worst thing about Joe Biden?
1. The apparent cognitive decline?
2. The sexual assault allegations from Tara Reade as well as the enormous cache of creepy videos of him sniffing and groping girls and women?
3. The nepotistic corruption of his family making millions of dollar off his official position of Vice President during his terms with Obama, as well as the questions of what influence foreign countries like China gained from the investment of those corrupt millions?
4. His apparent involvement with the ObamaBidenGate scandal involving the FBI, CIA and other agencies spying on Gen. Flynn and railroading him, in an attempt to bring down the Trump administration, despite knowing that everything they were charging him with was false?
Seems like the Democrats could hardly have picked a less "electable" presidential candidate. The others were all unpalatable in their own ways, but Biden seems to have become a multi-tasking failure par excellence.
Biden needs to work Corn Pop into this to add that extra touch of feigned humanity.
I'd like to know the rule for referencing this in the future. Are you, Althouse, expressing yourself view, Althouse’s opinion, that such impairment is not acceptable in a president? Or are you channelling some other imagined observer saying this? As a neutral observer, observing.
It's going to be Hillary/Harris. Hillarity will ensue.
BleachBitAndHammers: If biden were really that bad, his handlers would keep trying until biden got it right.
How do you know this isn't the best take they could get? (Also, dementia patients tend to get cranky; who knows how many takes Joe would do for them?) (Not that Joe hasn't always had that cranky side to him...)
Oh really?
Yes, really. Which one of Obama’s SOTU speeches would you put up against Trump’s SOTU from last January? Note that brainless responses such as “any of them” or “all of them” will be treated as equivalent to “none of them.” Don’t let your antipathy towards the message obscure the skill with which that message is delivered.
And am I the only person who remembers that in his SOTU Trump specifically mentioned an epidemic in China as something they’re keeping an eye on? Guy was on top of COVID-19 before WHO, and before the damned virus was even named.
Sleepy, Creepy, Gropin' Joe, now trying to grasp at reality...Sad, really. I have no use for the man's politics, but I know that he is now the Dems' worst nightmare candidate, and they are going to trade him out at convention time. "We need to WIN!" is gonna be a great slogan/epitaph coming out of that conclave.
Biden can be AA for geezers President.
after all Identity politics is AA for identity after identity
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