Not an #AprilFoolsDay Joke: after 17 days at @nyulangone, including 6 days on a ventilator, I’m being discharged! Here’s my final hospital bed selfie. #coronavirus #COVID19 #coronaboy #LatsCovid19Journal pic.twitter.com/RlgDiVg7sU
— David Lat (@DavidLat) April 1, 2020
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Great to see that David Lat is getting sprung from the hospital
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Great news!
I think he's very lucky. As someone with asthma, he was a more likelier candidate for a sadder outcome. He also got a cocktail of the various experimental cures (Clazakizumab, Kevzara, hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin, and Remdesivir) so clearly something is working. The fact that he was out for so long points to how vulnerable he was, I think. Glad to hear that he is on the mend!
Where is the treatment regimen being reported?
What saved/cured him?
Limited blogger,
Some of it is described in the twitter feed. He was on a ventilator for 6 days, received hydroxychloroquine, Zithromax. Additionally, he received two different mono-clonal antibodies that intervene in the IL-6 anti-inflammatory pathway.
He also got the remdesivir. So, no telling which, if any treatment actually saved him.
That should have read, IL-6 inflammatory pathway- the treatment is the anti part.
We'll never reach 200,000 (let alone 2 million) dead people from this virus, if people like David Lat continue to live.
Some people are going to be very disappointed.
Six days on a ventilator is awfully close to not making it at all. Very lucky guy.
There is a free man.
thx, YW
Good news. Joe Rogan has Dr. Peter Hotez on his podcast today. Just in case you might be interested in non political scientific and medical advice
HCQ worked? Don’t tell that to the Fake News and the Dem Governor of Michigan.
But for HCQ Lat would be a Dead Man. Why don’t the Libs get that? The randomized studies can be done later. This is a crisis!
I certainly will not be disappointed if few people die. And for the country's (world's) sake I hope that's what happens. As a retiree in his late 60s I also think about myself: How does this end? Suppose case numbers peak and ebb, but no vaccine is developed; am I not still at high risk of getting the virus and getting very sick or dying? I find some comfort in stories like Lat's which point to effective treatments, but I'm not sure those treatments will be approved (or should be approved) for people in my age group. I have hopes that a test for anti-bodies will soon be available which will allow the economy to begin to regularize; though we will need to be able to identify the "officially immune" through some kind of marker (badges or tattoos sound so Nazi-ish don't they?) I actually have great optimism that once people can be "officially immune" many of them will step up to help their still endangered neighbors.
EXCELLENT NEWS!
Dibs on his plasma!!!
Great news indeed Long may he prosper, and I hear he is talking about being a blood donor (so his antibodies can be shared with other patients).
As for those who have gotten through this ordeal and are now (provisionally) immune and therefore (provisionally) not carriers/shedders of virus, yes, we will need some way to recognize them. Germany is planning to issue certificates to those who test positive for antibodies. I imagine there will be a thriving trade in counterfeit certificates.
Perhaps, to avoid stopping everybody and demanding to see their papers, the Germans will ask people to wear some visible marker. Maybe a bright cloth logo in the form of a viral particle.
Good and positive news, for him and for others similarly afflicted.
Howard: "Good news. Joe Rogan has Dr. Peter Hotez on his podcast today. Just in case you might be interested in non political scientific and medical advice"
And just like that Dr Fauci and Dr Birx have been kicked to the curb.
Congrats to David Lat and his family!
This good news answers my question of a week or so ago. I was wondering if we really know that being on a ventilator can lead to recovery, or if it just prolongs dying, as I've seen happen in some cases.
We now know that in at least some cases the ventilator can save a life.
I'm impressed with the bright-eyed look in the selfie. He's youngish, of course, but he could just as easily look like death warmed over after this ordeal. I hope the condition of his lungs matches the light in his eyes.
He is a statistic for the second time now, a welcome addition to the "recovered" category.
Six days on a ventilator is awfully close to not making it at all.
Keep hope alive, ARM.
Ann! Clean up on aisle four...!
Maybe that fish tank cleaner stuff really works.
Stay Safe said...
How does being ”married to some other dude” suggest that “he is just another self indulgent gay guy”?
That is just pure bigoted hate.
4/1/20, 7:22 PM
Stay Safe said...
I am sure Ann you will just delete my comment and keep Bruce Hayden’s up.
4/1/20, 7:23 PM"
You must be new to this blog. While I can't speak our hostess, I rather doubt she will delete your comments. You got up your game with respects to hate speech.
RMc said...
Keep hope alive
Interesting, this was your thought, not mine. Why do you hate David Lat? I have no knowledge of this individual and have had exactly zero thoughts about him other than as a fellow human I am glad that he beat the virus, while recognizing that he came very close to not beating it.
April Fools' Day will always be different now for him.
Does he have any claims to actually having accomplished something?
All I know about his professional life is that he does a law blog that lots of people read. And I know from Althouse posts that he is engaged in what is called a 'marriage'.
I'm going to guess that the "can't get excited" means, 'I can't get any more excited about Mr Lat's recovery than about the recovery of those other thousands of people I don't know'-- which is understandable. Being opposed to the so-called same-sex 'marriage' nonsense doesn't mean one cannot also acknowledge that his recovery of health is a good thing and congratulate him on it.
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“In the end,” he said, “I ended up receiving an IL-6 inhibitor called Kevzara, a combo of the antimalarial drug called hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic called azithromycin, an IL-6 inhibitor called Tocilizumab, an IL-6 inhibitor called Clazakizumab, and an antiviral called Remdesivir.”
But asked whether the NYU Langone physicians have told him that the drug therapies employed had helped him turn the corner and survive, Lat said that they hadn’t said that—because they themselves don’t know.
“In terms of what did the trick, the doctors can’t say,” said Lat, who is also a former federal prosecutor and a Yale Law School graduate. “From a clinical perspective,” he said, “I’m glad they tried so many different drugs—but from a research perspective, it does mean it’s hard to say what worked.”
Bruce, wtf?! He's a lawyer with a spouse and a child who love him. That's about all I can claim as my accomplishments.
I'm definitely self-indulgent, too.
So I just read that according to Governor Cuomo, the ventilator therapy is only effective in about 20% of the cases where it was used. Lat is among the lucky 20%.
But if the utility of the ventilator is that low, why are we so anxious to get thousands more of them? That is money spent on materials that don't do any good in 80% of the times they are used? Isn't that money better used elsewhere? Like for drugs for treatment?
Jim Gust said...
Like for drugs for treatment?
There are no well established drugs for treatment. Certainly none that have been shown to be better than 20% effective.
Does the virus leave you with a permanent glassy stare? Or is that from the cure?
I am surprised that anyone could feel anything other happiness to read about someone who escaped a terrible death. He didn't agree with me - so what? We're all here for a reason.
I confess I thought he was a dead man. Wonderful news!
"But if the utility of the ventilator is that low, why are we so anxious to get thousands more of them?"
That's like asking: why do people buy 50 packs of Jumbo Size toilet paper rolls?
Everyone who shows up to the hospital should be receiving the treatments, especially the HCQ/Z pack combo as soon as they come to the hospital. Lives are being saved, but we're taking too long to get there. Lat was already on a ventilator, let's try it earlier and see if people can get well sooner.
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