1. I made my predictions first thing this morning about what was going to happen and what ought to happen, and I got myself thinking this was going to be the greatest debate of all time... except that Tom Steyer will be there. That's so dull. I'm looking for a savage fight!
2. I'm just going to write in a numbered list. It's too boring to write time stamps in classic live-blogging style. And I'm not even sure I'm going to live blog. But I feel inspired, and they're starting early tonight — 7:00 my time. We'll see what happens.
3. My son John is live-blogging here. He mentions that the show is on CBS. My cable company is feuding with CBS these days, so I had to figure out a different source. We're watching on BET. Caught the end of the NAACP Image Awards.
4. How can a Democratic Socialist do better with the economy than Trump? — the first question, to Sanders. He takes a swipe at Bloomberg, so Bloomberg gets to speak. He lashes out and says Russia is helping Sanders get elected. Sanders is touched off, starts raving, and accidentally hits the microphone twice.
5. Warren accuses Bernie's team of "trashing" her. She did the work, and they didn't, and then they attacked. I predicted a secret alliance between Warren and Sanders. Doesn't look like that.
6. Biden attacks Bernie for the 9 deaths at the South Carolina church... because he voted against the Brady Bill 5 times. A vicious attack.
7. "I'm hearing my name mentioned a little bit tonight" (Bernie).
8. "That single garment of destimy" — a Klobuchar garble. I forget what she was talking about. I was thinking about her garments, which are the dreariest color imaginable (dark brownish purple).
9. "I have been training for this job since I stepped on the pile — that was still smoldering — of 9/11" — Bloomberg.
10. Warren accuses Bloomberg of saying something he says he never said: "Kill it" (to a pregnant woman). Big reaction from the audience.
11. The moderators have totally lost control. The candidates are all talking at once, and the topic is: math. Yeesh!
12. After the break, there are 3 more moderators. I hope there's a little more order. The topic now is gun control. They have to vie for who's most controlling.
13. I got bored. There's a lot of recitation of proposals, not so much attacking each other. I'm not going to try to provide you with notes on that. This is the problem with live-blogging. If you start, then people expect you to keep going....
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616 (na) komento:
1 – 200 ng 616 Mas bago› Pinakabago»Tonight, I will watch a recording of "Ancient Aliens," which will be more authentic.
pre debate pre dictions?
HOW will Jo Biden screw himself THIS Time?
Will he say he's running for the Senate?? (done that)
Will he say that he communes with dead dictators (done that)
Will he say that, if you don't like him; just pick the 'other Biden' (Done THAT!)
Waukesha Blotter: A woman was performing a spiritual ritual on a dead opossum in the road at Springdale & Bluemound by throwing goldfish & windshield washer fluid on it. She then pulled out a Packers lawn chair and yelled “repent” at the dead animal. "
For God's sake, Inga, settle down!
The two people for whom this debate matters most is Biden and Bloomberg, and they each need the other out of the race, or so damaged after this coming Saturday that their potential voters abandon them starting next Tuesday. I think Bloomberg would be making a huge error in going after Sanders- he should focus on Biden and Biden's obvious mental deficits. Biden, on the other hand, needs to go after Bloomberg in much the same manner Warren did at the start of last week's debate. I think Warren will just pick up where she left off last week. This isn't going to be fun for Bloomberg- I think it could be even worse than last week. People think the experience and prep will make Bloomberg better this week- that is likely a false hope- it is very difficult for an adult to change his personality that way, even to fake it- even harder for a 78 year old man.
I'm glad to see they doubled the number of billionaires on the stage!!
Enjoy. I'm binge watching House on Prime.
“For God's sake, Inga, settle down!”
Oh you’re just so funny in toxic ugly sort of way.
"Will he say that, if you don't like him; just pick the 'other Biden' (Done THAT!)"
I thought that one actually did make some kind of sense. Pick the other Biden. But there is no other Biden. Exactly. I'm the only you got.
Lighten up, Frances.
First question to Sanders on the economy. Sanders goes right at the billionaires. Totally full of shit, but will play well with the primary electorate.
God, I hate blow hards like Bernie.
Can you really do this 1% stuff?
Bloomberg is fucking up with the Russian Hoax shit. What a mistake.
Watching Raptors Bucks game. Close and low scoring so far.
As it should be. Let Bloomie and Bernie have at it.
The rest are also rans.
Warren isn't going to go after Sanders on anything other than electability.
Bloomberg's first swing is a tipped ball.
Warren is less electable than Sanders.
Wrong move Warren.
Warren what a fucking whiner!!
Warren gonna dance around Bernie. Wants that VP slot.
Yancey
Appeals to ignorance win Democrat debates. That and empty headed burns.
Buttuvwxyz has a good point, but is a hopeless candidate.
Too smooth Butti.
That Russian collusion gambit went nowhere.
The She retort was too obscure for people to know what Sanders was talking about.
Poor Steyer, no one gives a shit what you say, dude.
This is high school re-visited.
they are gonna portray Bernie as a gun nut!
I'm in insano world.
Good points Steyer.
Bernie needs one of those Nacho Libre masks!!
Joe tries to punch below the belt, "I'm not saying he's responsible for those deaths," but another fail.
And again, he mostly just brags about his supposed resume. Yesterday ain't gonna cut it, Joe.
Biden goes after Sanders on the NRA. Biden is lying about the church shooter, or just mistaken. Invokes Obama, who still hasn't endorsed his VP.
Joe tries to punch below the belt, "I'm not saying he's responsible for those deaths," but another fail.
And again, he mostly just brags about his supposed resume. Yesterday ain't gonna cut it, Joe.
Buttuvwxyz wants to claim he isn't dependent on big donors.
These guys are all over the map.
Another total FAIL thus far is CBS.
Moderators better get this mess under control
Someone should fact check Buttuwxyz's claim that 2000 people in Charleston donated to his campaign. That sounds ridiculous.
They’re swinging at Bernie, but no blows are hitting.
I'm both surprised and disappointed that the candidates are actually running with the Russia garbage. It is so tiresome. Didn't even CNN acknowledge that the latest intelligence leak about Russia was not substantive? And for Bloomberg to raise the issue against Bernie seems like a foolish strategy.
I've earned the vote. They owe me!
Bad argument Joe.
Uncheck capitalism has failed.
Blues score on Blackhawks as fast as they can drop the puck. 1-0.
so far... seven way tie.
Steyer might be winning
What the fuck did Biden say??
"1000 Yard" Steyer boring?
2 old Jewish grampas going at it boring?
C'mon man, train wrecks are never boring
Biden refuses to say what happens if he loses SC.
"We let it get out of control" is NOT a repudiation of the stop and frisk.
https://pjmedia.com/blog/liveblogevent/liveblogging-the-south-carolina-democratic-debate/
Kinder, gentler Bloomberg.
I'm trying to find another good series to watch on DVD. Spiral and Line of Duty were great. Presidential, you could say.
Bloomberg threw the police under the bus.
Buttuvwxyz,
Nails Bloomberg with his own words.
People in the audience should STFU.
Will someone tie Bernie's arm behind his back? It's rude to point.
Listen, you pinko queer, would be a good line to use on Buttigieg. Just remembering old debates back when they were debates.
Not reading JAC. Is it the usual? Don’t even hint Pete is gay!! Pete is best because he’s gay!
Buttuvwxyz,
He needs to go walk down 56th street in Chicago.
Butti turns on a dime and plays to the SC crowd.
Bloomie rightly nails him as a demagogue
I'd love for a debate moderator to ask about the "white community" for a change.
That is one moderator who doesn't want Bloomberg.
He lashes out and says Russia is helping Sanders get elected. Sanders is touched off, starts raving, and accidentally hits the microphone twice.
Bloomberg's response was pretty weak. Inga will love it but anyone with sense knows the Putin thing is flailing by the deep state or the left.
Klobuchar praising Trump's criminal justice reform (without giving him credit).
Biden is a meaningless word salad.
Yes, thanks for mentioning Wisconsin, Amy, that’s true.
Warren goes after Bloomberg's past donor activities for Republicans. That will also damage Bloomberg.
Running scorecard.... Sanders winning by doing and saying nothing
Everyone else flailing
Warren brings out all the playbook buzzwords.
“Bloomberg's response was pretty weak. Inga will love it but anyone with sense knows the Putin thing is flailing by the deep state or the left.”
Inga doesn’t like anything Bloomberg says.
Bloomberg waves the bloody shirt!!
"I stood on the smoldering ruins." YOU WEREN'T THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY AT THE TIME, ASSHOLE.
Warren's on fire. Attacks Bloomberg for giving $12 million to a RIGHT WING senator, - a Republican - who had the nerve to defeat a WOMAN. But then she screws up by saying its "Personal for me" - lame.
Warren repeats the proven lie about her pregnancy and her teaching job.
Which one of the candidates isn't losing?
just came on and thought, oh, OK, yeah let's take a look.
Whose the over-rouged brown dame? asking something of Bloomberg. First time I've seen him. something having to do with black drama. Buttigieg pops next, mouthing mouth.
then i started typing so i cant' see, think its Klobachar something something, now it's warren, she is good at her schtick, but what schtick.
oh, she claims bloomberg is the devil. bloomberg gives a sound answer.
ohmygod, warren now, no, really, gonna give us that old pregnancy/work schtick again.
booo is right.
Sounds like Bloomberg hired some audience support.
Sanders doesn’t have anything to prove to anyone anymore. He can just stand there and watch them.
Joe's getting as ignored as Steyer.
Bloomberg is 100% better tonight
Seems much calmer.
CALM amongst these folks goes a long way.
Bloomberg is so awful on so many levels. I can't even listen to him.
Wasn't Warren's pregnancy story already disproven?
And what's wrong with "kill it" if you're a pro-choice absolutist? Is Warren acknowledging that the "it" is a person?
Is this Aliens 2020? They are trying to eat each other
I predicted correctly- Warren is after Bloomberg's head.
Believe all women not applicable to Bloomberg. LOL!
CBS moderators have let this thing get out of control.
They are all over the place.
"Lancet Magazine" Lol.
I love Bernie's malapropisms.
CBS moderators have let this thing get out of control.
They are all over the place.
All they want to do is pander to the black, and brown.
Sanders is carrying himself well, as much as I reject his ideology. Biden seems like an afterthought.
Joe doesn't have the quickness or strength to jump in.
O'Donnell wastes a question on the cost of Medicare-for-All- Sanders isn't ever going to answer that question- will always repeat his same answer.
Running score:
Sanders
Mike
Steyer
Klob
Buttg
Warren
Joe
All they want to do is pander to the black, and brown.
Diversity, progress: one step forward, two steps backward.
Oh who the hell cares bout Bloomberg, they are wasting debate time when there are more important issues. Bloomberg is not going to get the nomination, no way, no how.
Good talk bout healthcare
Steyer is alive!!!!
Ridiculously bad moderators. They need to show some backbone. I'll avoid saying something sexist.
The flash has gorilla grodd, being apologetic
The moderators suck.
CBS is letting Sanders monopolize the time.
The icing on the cake, you know how I know how dumb these Democrats are?
They keep quibbling over little fucking bullshit financial points. And why shouldn't they? Aren't they all owned by their donors and Wall Street?
Trump is running up trillion dollar deficits - and the people and the markets don't care!
These Democrats are fucking morons. The fact is Medicare runs their programs more efficiently than any other program in America. That's all that matters. All this bullshit about costs - that aren't being compared to the current waste - is fucking nonsense. It shows you how petty and stupid the Democrats are.
So self-defeating.
And blogger is hanging too many times in trying to post comments.
The straight muscle guys at my gym are all Bernie bros.
Andrew said...
Sanders is carrying himself well, as much as I reject his ideology. Biden seems like an afterthought.
Which Biden?
Can Styer just eat shit and die. What a bore.
Get off the stage!
You know who can win against Trump? The person who is winning, Sanders. None of the rest of them has a chance.
Biden wakes up!!
Old Man goes after nobody.
Joe, Joe, Joe.
These Democrats are losing. If only their supporters knew it.
Yes, we know you think not wasting money is the important end-all/be-all. No one cares.
Medicare wastes the least money of all. The fact that these Democrats are resisting that realization shows how lost they are. You can either offer the best programs or you don't have anything to say.
Oh look! Biden just went all angry Newt Gingrich on the moderators! Looks like that's how to fire up the S.C. crowd.
Steyer
Sanders
Mike B.
Joe
Klob
Warren
Buttg
Biden, Shut up and go away.
Biden stumbling over his words. He sounds terrible. He only speaks clearly when he's angry.
Steyer is an embarrassment.
"Lancet Magazine" Lol.
I love Bernie's malapropisms.
What did he say about it? It's been political on several issues, but I think it's kind of still generally respected on medicine as the Brit equivalent of Journal of the AMA..
Biden and Steyer in Thunderdome- two men enter, get ignored.
I am watching and at first I thought I was early and they were rerunning a bad SNLskit.
Still waiting for joe to pull out a chicken.
John Henry
Didnt they go vaccine denial a whileback.
Klobuchar goes after Sanders. No one cares, Amy.
Poor Bernie, his arm is getting a workout tonight.
wow, Klobochar thinks she came to a debate
Good stuff there
I've yet to hear any ideas or policies or principles from Grandpa Joe.
Klobber Jaw just went all Rodney King on the group.
Before going on the attack.
Looks like this is the feisty angry S.C. reality tv show that the Joe Schmoes wanted.
Well ok then.
Bernie
Amy
Mike
Steyer
the rest
Bloomberg says about Dem House members, "I bough . . ." before stopping himself.
Bloomberg nearly said he bought the new Congress. Yikes!!!
Mark heard it, too, so I wasn't hearing things!
This makes me like Amy K more: early in all the debates, she’s so nervous her voice warbles. Every time. After her first moment, her voice is stronger, no warbling. She’s clearly overcome a powerful set of nerves to be where is today succeeding at the career she set out on. Still wouldn’t vote for her, but on a personal level, but she’s clearly a woman of some fortitude. Bloomberg is trying, but his arrogance squeaks through every moment he’s not working his face muscles. And his natural snark served him well against the fake Indian (feather).
Why do they keep going to Bloomberg? Please don’t tell me they are going to try to shove Bloomberg down the Democrats throats.
Yes, Bloomberg definitely bought some audience tonight. Good move.
This makes me like Amy K more: early in all the debates, she’s so nervous her voice warbles. Every time. After her first moment, her voice is stronger, no warbling. She’s clearly overcome a powerful set of nerves to be where is today succeeding at the career she set out on. Still wouldn’t vote for her, but on a personal level, but she’s clearly a woman of some fortitude. Bloomberg is trying, but his arrogance squeaks through every moment he’s not working his face muscles. And his natural snark served him well against the fake Indian (feather).
Yep, Bloomberg hired boo-ers.
Bloomberg made a big error about appealing to moderate Republicans. Good move to lose the primary, dumbass.
"I BOUGHT YOU!! YOU OWE ME, DAMN IT!!"
Bernie blew it. The correct statement was that Bloomberg's supporters are all Republicans and Independents. Hit the issue, Bloomie is NOT a Democrat. He's a Republican!
So what does Joe's corner tell him between rounds?
What did he say about it?
He said what any honest analyst already knew. That Americans spend more on healthcare than any other nation for worse outcomes but that Medicare is the most efficient (least financially wasteful) of all programs here and has some of the greatest satisfaction scores.
This debate sucks big time, nothing like the fast moving but substantial debate last week.
rcocean, yes, Bernie missed that opportunity- a big ole fat, flat curveball right down the middle of the plate.
Glad other commenters confirmed what I heard. I wasn't sure. Bloomberg almost gave the game away.
The Dems are doing themselves no favors tonight.
So, I'm reading this is a chaotic free for all, so I tune in.
Commercial. wtf?
And that's Uncle Joe
he's movin' kinda slow
at the junction.
South Carolina Junction.
Who is seeing a Bloomberg commercial right now??
Is that local? Or national?
Looks like Althouse has bailed out after the math quiz.
Lol Bloomberg. How much easier if he could have done what he's all about: Running against Trump in the 2020 RNC primary as a Republican. Clearly he only registered as a Democrat for NYC mayoral electoral purposes.
What's he doing here - apart from acting out his political identity disorder?
The chaotic, manic energy on this debate stage is freaking me out
-Buzzfeed reporter
Biden doesn't have to fight for time this time!
A Bloomberg ad in the middle of the debate?! I think that's a big mistake.
My name’s Sybil, I’m a Democratic candidate for the United States senate—if you like what you see, help out, if not, vote for the other Sybil.
Bloomberg moves to lead, cause he ran a commercial during the break
Amy K, is acting fairly presidential
Bernie is just treading water
...
...
Biden running on resume again.
Will he talk about Corn Pop?
They shouldn’t.
Does he do any market research, or is thiswhat he thought.
I'm watching a streaming feed on Facebook, and the comments are NOT kind.
Mostly......what a bunch of children.
100 people die from Gun violence.
Yep, those nasty guns just kill people, all by themselves. Just like SUV's.
150 million people killed on American streets because of guns?????????
150 million people have been killed by guns? Wow, I never knew.
150 million people killed in gun violence since 2007?
so, is The Purpose of This Debate,
To make the Moderators seem like incompetent idiots?
To make the candidates seem like incompetent idiots?
or
To make people that are STUPID ENOUGH to continue watch seem like incompetent idiots?
Makes Hillary look downright presidential...
Who hates the NRA most? I'll say....
Warren.
Warren going to end the filibuster.
No wonder I see so many dead bodies all over the place.
Biden, big rough talking old man. Warren is right about the filibuster.
Dems will not run a Senator
Obama won as a senator because he ran against senators
Trump is Executive #1
If guns killed 150 million, they were pretty sneaky about it.
The only reason for having this debate is to see who can unleash the most righteous anger. I think Southerners like that stuff and Joe Biden definitely has his angry talking points well prepared. He's auditioning for angry old white guy fiery enough to take on the other angry old white guy Trump.
That's all this is about. But Warren's doing a pretty good job of running interference for Bernie. If he wins she'd basically be the treasury secretary.
There is no gun show loophole. The lie that never dies.
Bloomberg whining about debate etiquette again.
WTF, why is Bloomberg being given so much time?
Amy K got rid of the boyfriend loophole.
Buttigig silently gave thanks.
Is Klobber Jaw capable of ever not mentioning her Mondale-esque geographic roots? Did a MN senator ever not lose 49 states in the presidential?
Democrats have short memories.
Oh my God, Biden is being poo pooed by Amy, lol. Oh this is pathetic.
Amy K takes a while to get rolling, but once in motion she stays in motion....
"There is no gun show loophole. The lie that never dies."
Forget it Jake, its Democrat Town
Those CBS chicks talking over the candidates is NOT how to moderate.
Sounds like the gatekeepers were really, really good at preventing Sanders' supporters from getting into the hall.
They are doing that thing of talking over candidates they don't like/respect.
Very weak moderators.
Will COVID-19 and the stock market crash be mentioned tonight?
Peter ButtJudge is auditioning for MSNBC script writer.
God damn is he boring. He repeats the talking points that the automatons need to spout to feel more zombie-like.
the Dems would have been better off not having these 'debates'
Together they embarrass themselves worse than on their own,
unless they are auditioning for an SNL skit.
It compounds the crazy
Inga's probably right about Bloomberg buying the audience members.
Pete B was in high school when Columbine happened? He shouldn't mention that again. He's a perpetual high school student.
Seriously. Is this the best we got?
Bernie got a D- from the NRA.
Not good enough. Real Democrats get an F.
Steyer wants to get rid of Graham, McConnell, and Cruz with term limits. What say you Schumer?
Bloomberg and Klobuchar would be the Dems’ best ticket. Go Bernie, go.
Having everyone raise their hand, looks bad. Makes them look like Kindergartners calling on teacher.
I don't know who Bloomberg thinks is being fooled by this audience- everyone knows he bought them for the night.
Can I get paid to be a Bloomberg fan?
Well at least Lizzie's mounting a decent attack with effective specifics on the horrible Betsy DeVos agenda. It's about time someone did.
How much did Bloomberg pay to be given more time than anyone else on that stage? I smell a rat, the audience and now he gets more time than anyone else.
Seriously. Is this the best we got?
They're speaking to a Fort Sumter crowd. Who the hell knows what a Democrat in South Carolina wants?
Mark said...
So what does Joe's corner tell him between rounds?
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Probably that "he coulda been a contender".
They all bring audience members.
Bloomberg didn't get any seats in Vegas cause he joined so late.
That was a big miss on his part, it was dead silence after any of his remarks.
I'm enjoying your comments, Inga. I don't often agree with you, but I appreciate the insight of how this looks to the audience they are hoping to convince.
I am Laslo.
Sanders is going outspend Bloomberg in this campaign, but do it with tax money.
Has there ever been a single tax cut that Dems didn't call a tax cut for the rich?
Yes, how about more respect for educators?
One of 'em needs to grab their mic and walk out in front and start yappin'. Hopefully the rest would follow ..
Hey Warren -- When you refuse to give out $10,000 scholarships for parents to choose to send their kids to non-public schools, you end up making public schools pay about $18,000 in order to educate those same students.
Every student you force to attend a government school, rather than being able to go to a non-public schools costs additional money in per pupil expenditures.
Hard to take any of these clowns seriously. Bad moderators too. Too many folks raising their hands like rowdy high school kids.
Why didn't they have this boring section first? Then start the food fight at the end.
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