१४ जानेवारी, २०२०

At the Sunrise Café...

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... you can talk about whatever you like.

The sunrise today was, as you can see, the dullest possible sunrise — solid clouds and not even any interesting texture to the clouds. This is what I am calling a type #1 sunrise in my system of classifying sunrises. Yesterday's was also type #1, as were the sunrises of January 3 and December 27th. You get the idea.

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Tom_Ohio म्हणाले...

I hope you are at that rally all day, outside then inside. I just want to know what you think is all. Good tidings from Ohio this evening.

Whirred Whacks म्हणाले...

Thought you’d be live-blogging the Prez in Milwaukee now. Quite a performance!

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I hope someone asks Bernie Sanders tonight about the re-education camps he has in store for us. Not holding my breath.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

To the Althousian altruists

As observers (not the recipient) of the recent outpouring of support and comfort regarding a heartbreaking tragedy here on this blog, we are encouraged by the many expressions of condolence.
Though we are in culturally/politically tumultuous and divisive times, and unfortunately due to passionate engagement, often fraught with rancor, you did not lose sight of what is most important-- our common humanity.
May God bless us all with peace and goodwill going forward, even as we strive to be true to our convictions

Original Mike म्हणाले...

How many types of sunrises are there? Five?

Inga म्हणाले...

“To the Althousian altruists

As observers (not the recipient) of the recent outpouring of support and comfort regarding a heartbreaking tragedy here on this blog, we are encouraged by the many expressions of condolence.
Though we are in culturally/politically tumultuous and divisive times, and unfortunately due to passionate engagement, often fraught with rancor, you did not lose sight of what is most important-- our common humanity.
May God bless us all with peace and goodwill going forward, even as we strive to be true to our convictions.”

The warmth and sincere sentiments, prayers and condolences were exactly what was needed for a dismal winter day (season) in Wisconsin. Thank you.

Churchy LaFemme: म्हणाले...

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Drago म्हणाले...

Today our "courageous" dems/LLR's refused to bring up a GOP resolution condemning the dems beloved Islamic Supremacist terrorist leaders and praising the protesters calling for greater freedom and peace.

This action by the dems speaks for itself.

Browndog म्हणाले...

Roger Scruton: Conservative thinker dies at 75 Boris Johnson led the tributes, calling him the country’s “greatest modern conservative thinker”.

We live in a time where ugliness is celebrated as beauty.

I want to persuade you that beauty matters; that it is not just a subjective thing, but a universal need of human beings. If we ignore this need we find ourselves in a spiritual desert.

Why Beauty Matters by Roger Scruton

Drago म्हणाले...

And yes, I do realize that criticizing democratics will lead to LLR-lefty Chuck demanding to FIGHT me!!

Because Chuck is a FIGHTER who will FIGHT against any and all comers who don't believe he will FIGHT!

Browndog म्हणाले...

Democrats have put a bullseye on Rudy Gilliani over the Ukraine meddling impeachment fiasco.

Of all the names you hear the democrats "need to hear from", and demand they testify, you never hear the name Rudy Gulliani.

Just an observation...

BudBrown म्हणाले...

subtlest

Chuck म्हणाले...

For Althouse and Meade;

I recall your post from the earliest days of Trump-impeachment talk. When impeachment approval was hovering around 51%, and seemed to be going nowhere fast. Althouse had a post which concluded with a notion suggested to her by Meade, in which Meade wondered whether the nation shouldn’t be looking for something like 66% public approval for an impeachment-and-removal, since the Constitutional requirement on the Senate was a 2/3 supermajority to “convict” and remove from office.

We aren’t there quite yet, but now in separate and repeated polls, it looks like popular support for a Senate trial that includes the principal witnesses has reached 66%.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.axios.com/john-bolton-senate-impeachment-trial-poll-515bd920-ff57-4a6d-8e6f-c0113cb202d6.html

Inga म्हणाले...

“Of all the names you hear the democrats "need to hear from", and demand they testify, you never hear the name Rudy Gulliani.”

I’d love to hear him testify.

narciso म्हणाले...



No that woke:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/01/14/duchess-sussex-moves-business-interests-delaware-us-corporate/

Browndog म्हणाले...

BREAKING: General Flynn to withdraw plea deal

BlackjohnX म्हणाले...

I'm surprised no one has commented on Boris Johnson's remark regarding joining with Trump on how to deal with Iran.

Browndog म्हणाले...

I’d love to hear him testify.

Respectfully, you don't count.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I'd love to hear Bernie address the fact that his supporters will be burning Milwaukee down if he's not the nominee. Glad I live 90 miles away.

Inga म्हणाले...

“Respectfully, you don't count.”

Why? I’m a Democrat and a liberal. I probably think like the majority of Democrats and liberals. If I’m interested in what Giuliani has to say, I bet many Democrats are also interested. I also think Bolton should testify, call Hunter Biden, call Joe Biden. I think we all deserve to hear what they have to say.

Drago म्हणाले...

Admiral Inga: " I also think Bolton should testify,"

Tough.

Trump should completely exert executive privilege across the board for all executive agency personnel. Period. Take him to court if you don't like it.

Besides, the dems said their case was a literal "slam dunk". Sounds good. Bring it on.

Browndog म्हणाले...

I was referring to the democrats conducting the impeachment, and the upcoming trial.

You know, the one's that matter.

Browndog म्हणाले...

I wonder if these same democrats think Bolton has forgotten all the nasty things they did to him when Bush nominated him for ambassador.

I assure you he hasn't.

Drago म्हणाले...

BlackjohnX: "I'm surprised no one has commented on Boris Johnson's remark regarding joining with Trump on how to deal with Iran."

I mentioned it earlier today. I even referenced Johnson's call for a "new Trump Deal" to replace the "Obama deal" (giveaway to our enemies). Johnson emphasized the obama giveaway deal is officially dead (as it should be) and its time to move on.

In addition to Johnson's call for a new Trump Deal, the goverments of Germany, France and the UK have all indicated they are prepared to return to full sanctions against Iran as existed before obama gave the murderous islamic terrorists everything they wanted.

So, as we can see, in a "mere" (mere!) 7 days Trump has brought the entire western world in line against the murderous islamic regime that obama and biden supported with all their might.

The lefties/LLR-lefties here said the opposite of this would happen with the US becoming more isolated and the people of Iran coalescing around their islamic supremacist govt.

Yes, our lefties and LLR-lefties are just that moronic, stupid and unteachable.

Inga म्हणाले...

“I'd love to hear Bernie address the fact that his supporters will be burning Milwaukee down if he's not the nominee. Glad I live 90 miles away.”

Meh, not gonna happen. If any angry Bernie Bro’s come to Milwaukee to cause mayhem we’ll just offer them free beer, a brat and Gemütlichkeit and they’ll leave happy.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Saw fifteen minutes or so of Pence speaking. Realized I had never seen or heard him speak that long.

Not too bad, made some jokes at Dems expense.

Not vicious, malicious, disingenuous, disgusting or vile like Democrats. Kind of a typical Republican.

Looking forward to final debate so as to solidify my choice of candidates in the primary. Hard hitting, pertinent, insightful, in depth questions anticipated, along with detailed, reasonable, truthful, original, thought provoking responses.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"I’d love to hear [Bolton] testify."

So, if Bolton were to testify in the basement of the capitol, behind closed doors, and McConnell wouldn't release the transcripts of his testimony, you'd have a problem with that?

Drago म्हणाले...

Inga: "Meh, not gonna happen. If any angry Bernie Bro’s come to Milwaukee to cause mayhem we’ll just offer them free beer, a brat and Gemütlichkeit and they’ll leave happy."

Given your Iranian pronouncements, we can safely assume the exact opposite of what you assert will happen will actually occur.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

is this the first time Trump talked publicly re: Loretta Lynch getting a seat on the supreme court if she rigged Hill's investigation as a bribe by Bill Clinton during tarmac meeting?

Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...

Six White Democrat candidates are debating tonight. I wonder what the six White Democrats will discuss? I hope there isn't too much rancor among the six White Democrat candidates.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

...and they’ll leave happy."

The guys who said they were going to beat the crap out of the cops would just meekly walk away? I don't think so.

Michael K म्हणाले...

We aren’t there quite yet, but now in separate and repeated polls, it looks like popular support for a Senate trial that includes the principal witnesses has reached 66%.

Including Steve Bannon, you idiot. Steve wants witnesses, including both Bidens.

The Democrats and you think Bolton will help you as a witness. His testimony will blow up in your faces, if he testifies.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Veep season 7 is good. Great quips. It hasn't caught up with Trump zinger style, still playing on the difference between what's the politically correct pose and what pols actually calcuate with. Trump takes out the politically correct posture half, making that particular satire impossible. Also Trump is actually, underneath, well meaning, unlike these guys.

Veep seasons 1-6 were good too, so if you didn't like them, you won't like season 7 either.

stevew म्हणाले...

A Winter's Bone sunrise. Dull but pushes a cold, sharp edge into your being.

"Death leaves a heartache no one can heal, love leaves a memory no one can steal."

narciso म्हणाले...

If these was europe in the 17th century, it would have fallen:



http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/25007

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Trump making fun of California diverting water at expense of population to save a little fish.

Someone should tell him how our government shut down on going expansion of SFO airport until a tunnel could be constructed for garter snakes to cross the road. Not sure who, if anybody,trained the snakes to use the tunnel.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

will "Under Russian Influence [vodka] Pelosi really go with this?

McConnell has made it clear he won't hold a fair trial to remove Trump from office, so there's NO POINT in sending the articles up to the Senate!

stevew म्हणाले...

I am undecided on the value of impeachment trial witnesses except for this: if there are any the list must include both Bidens. If not them then none.

Drago म्हणाले...

BTW, anyone catch NBC and other legacy media organizations finally coming clean about Trump and the strike on Soleimani?

The new reports completely obliterated the earlier talking points Admiral Inga and LLR-lefty Chuck were spouting just days ago.

Trump originally wanted to target Soleimani in 2017, but the obama/biden "We Love Islamic Supremacist Governments!" holdovers in the federal agencies didn't act on it.

That was followed by these same types pushing Trump to take out Soleimani last spring but Trump did not want to escalate. However, Trump did give instructions that if Iran/Soleimani escalated the conflict by killing American's or if future attacks targeting Americans directly were in the offing that the US would take immediate action.

Soleimani and crew killed an American, attacked our embassy and were gearing up for other action.

Then Trump took decisive measures against him.

Needless to say, Admiral Inga and LLR-lefty Chuck (The FIGHTER!) have had NOTHING to say about these recent revelations from their own favorite news sources.

Unexpectedly.

Of course, no one is surprised as Inga still believes Carter Page is a russian spy and Kavanaugh is a gang rapist.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

McConnell should run the trail the same way Schiff ran his. How could the democrats object?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

"No one is above the law"

Except Biden and Hillary.

Milwaukie guy म्हणाले...

I noticed that today's impeachment poll [seen on Fox] is pretty much evenly divided yes and no on conviction. It was a poll of 1500 registered voters.

First, this is less than four pollees for each CD.

Second, 66 million voted for Clinton and 63 million for Trump. Like the same halves! It's like an election do-over!

Third, is there any way to be the urban redneck in my CD? I have a couple of benjamins in my wallet right now for the enterprising pollster. I want to be an influencer.

We could have one antifa/gender-fluid, one old white lady liberal, one sort of clueless moderate and me.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Bernie gesticulating humorously, Biden tongue tied already.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Nancy Pelosi is full Alex Jones

exhelodrvr1 म्हणाले...

Any hugely consequential misstatements today?

Did see that Colin Powell says he was against the invasion of Iraq, but he didn't tell Pres Bush, because he didn't think it would do any good.

What an ass-covering asshole!

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Hey Milwaukie guy! Be prepared to flee this summer if Bernie loses.

narciso म्हणाले...


Does it seems the bernie bro, hasnt thought ahead?


https://nypost.com/2020/01/13/the-silly-smear-of-bill-barr-as-an-agent-of-a-catholic-cult/amp/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons&__twitter_impression=true

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

"Fear The Turtle" ??

McConnell Continues Unloading on Pelosi, Schiff on Senate Floor, Turns Tables on ‘Cover-Up’ Accusations

https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2020/01/14/video-mcconnell-continues-unloading-pelosi-schiff-senate-floor-turns-tables-cover-up-accusations/

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

dem debate is a dud

iowan2 म्हणाले...

"I’d love to hear [Bolton] testify."

What does that look like in the Senate? Aren't all questions put to the witnesses in writing, and their responses read out by a lawyer? There is no Perry Mason moment. I really don't know so just asking.

Iman म्हणाले...

What are these Kaylaphytes Biden speaks of?

Browndog म्हणाले...

Brit Hume made the point tonight that the concept of a "fair trial" is a protection afforded to the defendant, not the prosecution.

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Bloomberg is winning this debate

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Buttigieg is pompous and never answers the question he is asked

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Have they asked Bernie about his re-education camps yet?

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

Strange picture of a seal, perhaps he's a "punk seal".
H/T Coyne

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

my source is a great guy, so yes, impeach the president

Shortly after the whistleblower’s complaint became public, McCord publicly endorsed the substance of the document, based solely on her high regard for Atkinson.

“As soon as I saw that he had recommended it be sent to Congress, that’s all I needed to know it was legit,” McCord told CNN.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/intel-watchdog-who-vetted-whistleblower-complaint-tied-to-top-lawyer-in-democrat-impeachment-effort_3202733.html

Drago म्हणाले...



"No one is above the law"

BleachBit-and-Hammers: "Except Biden and Hillary."

And their staffs. And illegal aliens. And corrupt liars and leakers in the CIA/NSA/DOJ/FBI/State Dept/IRS etc.

And democrats in general. And billionaire donors to democrats. And unrepentant actual terrorists pardoned by Clinton and Obama.

Other than that, no one is above the law.

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Poor Iowa voters have to put their seal of approval on one of these stiffs.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"Shortly after the whistleblower’s complaint became public, McCord publicly endorsed the substance of the document, based solely on her high regard for Atkinson.

“As soon as I saw that he had recommended it be sent to Congress, that’s all I needed to know it was legit,” McCord told CNN."


Adam Schiff will not release IG Michael Atkinson's testimony. Why?

narciso म्हणाले...

And heres the head clown



https://mobile.twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1217273504023941120

walter म्हणाले...

Let me know when Warren and Berno wrestle.
She's spry..but he is probably a biter.

Rick म्हणाले...

I wonder what the six White Democrats will discuss?

How much of your money they're going to take, what else do they ever talk about?

Warren

What I find interesting about Dems is that even as they take plan to take your money they call you greedy. Further even though you are supposed to be the greedy one their entire economic program is taking your money rather than setting conditions so the economy grows, and all other (supposed) problems are solved with your money.

Why it's almost like everything else is a distraction and all they care about is your money.

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

That KAGA Rally in Milwaukee tonight was a Type # 5. Way better than one of those dull Type #1s. DJT was full of energy and full of love for Wisconsin. He must remember it was Wisconsin that won the electoral College the night they drove old Hillary down.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Debate sucks.
Live blog here:

Jaltcoh

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

Looks like Kyle Jurek has worked with Iowa Co Field Director @brookew_adams and the Sanders Campaign called Kyle a "top-tier organizer."

Looks like the @BernieSanders campaign has already implemented SOVIET style censorship and deleted their praise of this man.
per O'Keefe

narciso म्हणाले...


Like the legion of doom but with more members


https://babylonbee.com/news/group-of-known-criminals-meet-to-discuss-how-much-of-your-money-to-steal

Merny11 म्हणाले...

Anyone know the attendance number for the rally tonight?

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"Looks like Kyle Jurek has worked with Iowa Co Field Director @brookew_adams and the Sanders Campaign called Kyle a "top-tier organizer."

Apparently, Kyle Jurek was a low-level organizer like Kevin Clinesmith was a low level FBI lawyer.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Anyone know the attendance number for the rally tonight?

Less than a hundred thousand...

walter म्हणाले...

Trump forced people to stand in lines starting yesterday.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

it's actually bustling --he doesnt realize ghosts vote Democrat

Democrat Debate In Iowa A Ghost Town As Trump Rally Has Thousands Outside Hours Before Doors Open

https://twitter.com/i/status/1217214453860786176

Inga म्हणाले...

Well, I’m glad so far no one has held up their hands to compare who has the biggest hands. Good substantive debate. I suppose it might be boring for those who have become accustomed to the showmanship of Trump. Isn’t it Althouse who says she’s for boring, when it comes to a candidate for president?

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

Democrat Debate In Iowa A Ghost Town As Trump Rally Has Thousands

ok-- who's the wise-guy who called GhostBusters??

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Amy K. is only one throwing elbows at the debate.

I guess she could win Iowa and get some Klo-mentum.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

looks like the Dems have the Green Ectoplasm vote sewn up

narciso म्हणाले...



What if she loses her comb


https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1217188664326803456

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Did any of Bernie's competitors ask him about his re-education camps?

Gospace म्हणाले...

Browndog said...
BREAKING: General Flynn to withdraw plea deal


This may be the start to the Great Awakening. Provided, of course, that Q is a real person or group and not a larper. Can't imagine with the FBI's reputation at this point any jury convicting him of anything.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Well I see how Joker got the Oscar nomination. Just flash “RESIST” on the screen a couple of times, or maybe “R3SIST” and parade around a caricature of Trump with a gold crown for hair.

Other than that couple seconds though, it was a good movie, in a Fight Club. sort of way.

narciso म्हणाले...


It makes you wonder how often they pull these tricks


https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1217255955060154368?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Jaq म्हणाले...

"Buttigieg is pompous and never answers the question he is asked”

People aren’t smart enough to ask him the right questions.

narciso म्हणाले...



Somebody stop this thing:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaliforniaPanda/status/1217273697624580096

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

@GoSpace
for you

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/029/478/156/original/22eb0a3d0958853f.png?1579053416

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Yes, our lefties and LLR-lefties are just that moronic, stupid and unteachable.

@Drago, as far as most young lefties are concerned, they’re not moronic, not stupid, and definitely not unteachable. The problem is that they’ve learned from the wrong teachers. One key piece of my own evolution from ardent Bobby Kennedy supporter to ardent Trump supporter was going through BCT with all sorts of different people. Today’s college students meet a handful of carefully vetted affirmative action undergraduates and imagine that they’ve experienced “diversity.” Reality may be a hard to grasp concept for the likes of certain of the resident Althouse trolls, but most people quickly discover their need to live in the real world.

narciso म्हणाले...


Another cordelia


https://m.imdb.com/name/nm4880670/mediaviewer/rm3423439361

Inga म्हणाले...

“This may be the start to the Great Awakening. Provided, of course, that Q is a real person or group and not a larper.”


The Great Awakening and QAnon.

Do people truly believe this stuff? How many Trump supporters sign onto this?

Gahrie म्हणाले...

If you guys don't like Ryan Reynolds as Koudelka, how about Ryan as Ivan?

Inga म्हणाले...

“Reality may be a hard to grasp concept for the likes of certain of the resident Althouse trolls, but most people quickly discover their need to live in the real world.”

Are QAnon and The Great Awakening real?

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Do people truly believe this stuff? How many Trump supporters sign onto this?

About half as many as the number of Democrats who pretended to believe CBF.

narciso म्हणाले...

It could happen, in a world where creators respect the source material, then again whi thought you could bring the entire marvel universe in effectively.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

Prosecutors (Van Grack) knowingly sought to induce false statements from Flynn relating to his FARA registration.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOSQ708WsAAJIlE.png

per techno fog

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"Do people truly believe this stuff? How many Trump supporters sign onto this?"

Believe what stuff?

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

All the dem nominees preening about the impeachment and how important it is.

America don't care.

narciso म्हणाले...


Peach mint what flavor


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/fifty-years-ago-murder-jock-yablonski-changed-labor-movement-180973881/?fbclid=IwAR0Bntm-zAMgRoxBMP0-ciuUTIfTrAjI9VP9Wp4wsD1M1cL1lqXxRPhdTc4

Inga म्हणाले...

“Believe what stuff?”

QAnon and The Great Awakening.
——————————————
Blogger Gospace said...
Browndog said...
BREAKING: General Flynn to withdraw plea deal

This may be the start to the Great Awakening. Provided, of course, that Q is a real person or group and not a larper. Can't imagine with the FBI's reputation at this point any jury convicting him of anything.

1/14/20, 9:08 PM

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

better yet, read the whole thread

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1217255955060154368

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"QAnon and The Great Awakening."

I don't know what that is. I looked at the Wikipedia page and it was goobltygook.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

I guess it says something about tonight's debate that Althouse didn't post about it.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I do believe that Michael Flynn was railroaded.

Jaq म्हणाले...

It’s pretty funny seeing somebody who bought into the Scott Walker secret router investigation, the Steele Dossier, the Mueller Report, and the media pronouncements that Hillary was a lead pipe cinch to win so much that she voted for somebody else in Wisconsin, then went home expecting to watch HIllary win lecture on credulity.

Jaq म्हणाले...

In fairness, I asked the same question many times about Maddow viewers.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Trump is a Russian spy!

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

“BREAKING: General Flynn to withdraw plea deal”

Interesting reading: MR. FLYNN’S MOTION TO WITHDRAW PLEA OF GUILTY AND UNOPPOSED MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

walter म्हणाले...


Leader McConnell "Stoly Mitch"
‏Verified account @senatemajldr
9h9 hours ago

First, Democrats spent weeks saying the House case was totally convincing. Now, the opposite: They say the House case is so thin that if the Senate judges what the House actually voted on, it's a “cover-up."

Their own investigation was so shallow that it now equals a “cover-up”?

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

did Flynn 'take a rubber bullet' to get this going?

...Sydney says 'he knows where all the bodies are buried"

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Can't wait to see how CNN is gonna polish this turd in the post debate analysis.

Gospace म्हणाले...

Inga, take a glance at neonrevolt.com. And the latest there refers to crazydaysandnights.net which I stop by weekly and go through the weeks postings. And then wander over to here: https://threadreaderapp.com/hashtag/qanonposts

There's all kinds of people who truly believe Qanon is real. I see references all the time. I have my doubts. I think interpreting Qanon posts is on a par with interpreting Nostradamus. The stuff posted on crazydaysandnights is cryptic but real, sometimes revealed. Epstein is real. And look at the people involved with Epstein - a British royal and a former POTUS. Weinstein is real.

One of the early things Qanon interpreters said was Trump and Sessions were going after child pornographers and similar. I'm 64 - 4 years ago I didn't know anyone arrested for child porn. I'm now up to 3, including my former doctor. Seems that prediction was right on target.

Inga म्हणाले...

“It’s pretty funny seeing somebody who bought into the Scott Walker secret router investigation, the Steele Dossier, the Mueller Report, and the media pronouncements that Hillary was a lead pipe cinch to win so much that she voted for somebody else in Wisconsin, then went home expecting to watch HIllary win lecture on credulity.”

QAnon and The Great Awakening if far more fantastical than any of the things you’ve listed, yet there seems to be a substantial following among Trump supporters.

Inga म्हणाले...

“Inga, take a glance at neonrevolt.com. And the latest there refers to crazydaysandnights.net which I stop by weekly and go through the weeks postings. And then wander over to here: https://threadreaderapp.com/hashtag/qanonposts”

I’ve read some Reddit threads on it, but it was so over the top, I just couldn’t continue reading. I’ll check out your links.

narciso म्हणाले...

Some dubious speculation and what say you of this fraud proferred by a t
Rent a spy for russian oligarchs and repeated intoto by every major outlet.

walter म्हणाले...

Andy Ngo
@MrAndyNgo
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Kyle Jurek, 38, was arrested last week in Iowa & charged w/drunk driving, possessing drug paraphernalia & more. Jurek is a field organizer for Sanders campaign. He was recorded by @Project_Veritas calling for political violence. #AntifaMugshots. More info: https://patreon.com
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One Man Banned
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He was arrested September 28, 2019 for abuse of prescription painkillers as well. Then he was arrested January 8 for probation violation, failure to provide proof of financial liability, possession of drug paraphernalia and operating while intoxicated.

A real winner this one.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

@narciso
sorry-- didnt see your earlier post 9:13

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"...yet there seems to be a substantial following among Trump supporters."

Your evidence for this claim is...?

Birkel म्हणाले...

Royal ass Inga wants us to believe the conspiracy to deprive US citizens of their God-given and Constitutionally recognizes civil rights did not happen. But the IRS under Obama has to pay damages to the groups and individuals it deprived of civil rights. And the DOJ/FBI/CIA has definitely acted in a conspiracy to spy on US citizens. FISC judges have written as much in 2016, 2018, and again in 2019.

Denial of those facts is impossible.

Three leakers have been charged with felonies for leaking classified documents to MSM sources. Two were convicted. One awaits trial. Those were government employees operating in violation of the law against the civil rights of US citizens.

This cannot be denied.

And I will get bored long before I finish typing - from memory - the crimes the Obama Administration committed against US citizens.

walter म्हणाले...

I don't think beer and cheese will temper Kyle.

Drago म्हणाले...

Nga: "QAnon and The Great Awakening if far more fantastical than any of the things you’ve listed, yet there seems to be a substantial following among Trump supporters."

Evidence?
Links?

There is none.

And Carter Page is not a russian spy, as confirmed by our very own CIA.

Are you ready to admit that Carter Page accusation is a lie like the hoax dossier?

Narayanan म्हणाले...

can any of materials transmitted to the Senate for this TRIAL remain confidential, redacted, classified etc.?

Could be great opportunity to turn in laundry list of FOIA by Amicus Publicus that is all the deplorables

narciso म्हणाले...

Let me make it clear 'who watches the watchers' who makes it clear thar powerfully invasive tools are handled responsibly. At the top levels of the doj ans fbi prietap and laufman were suppsed to

walter म्हणाले...

Well Birkel:

"Media figure Sharyl Attkisson is seeking to reopen her case against Obama administration Justice Department officials over claims they illegally spied on her.

A previous lawsuit Attkisson filed in 2015 alleging civil liberties and other violations was ultimately dismissed. Since then, she claims, new information about the identity of those involved in surveilling her computers and phones from 2011 to 2014 has come to light that warrant new litigation.

“The plaintiffs first acquired the details regarding key individuals involved in the surveillance in August 2019 from a person involved in the wrongdoing who has come forward to provide information,” Attkisson said in a complaint filed on behalf of herself and her family on Friday in federal court in Maryland."

Birkel म्हणाले...

Royal ass Inga: "...more fantastical..."
...than things made up from whole cloth without any support that are demonstrable lies.

Let that sort of fantastical thinking sink in.
Marinade in it.

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Dems close out debate with a flurry of Trump hatred.

They think because they are consumed by hatred, that America is as well.


Birkel म्हणाले...

walter,
In my defense I said I was getting tired of typing.
Thanks for the help.

narciso म्हणाले...

I know supposed to, now manafort worked for russia, like half thepeople in london as well as dc, including christipher steele including jonathan winer, so what makes them different.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"can any of materials transmitted to the Senate for this TRIAL remain confidential, redacted, classified etc.?"

I want to see Michael Atkinson's testimony.

walter म्हणाले...

narciso,
That Ngo twitter link of yours led me into his mugshot gallery of Antifa misfits.
Can't unsee that.

Birkel म्हणाले...

narciso:
All animals equal.
But Democratic animals are more equal than Republican animals.

narciso म्हणाले...

Tell me theres an approximation of justice, like parkay margarine.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/treasury-natalie-edwards-leaking-trump-documents-guilty-plea

Inga म्हणाले...

“Evidence?
Links?”

The president is normalizing conspiracy theories that portray his political opponents as satanist pedophiles.

Disclaimer, this is from Vox, who I understand is not a reliable source to many of you, but the content is fascinating and thought provoking.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

If Inga is asking if people here believe that the DOJ/FBI/CIA attempted to take down a U.S. President, I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. I certainly do.

narciso म्हणाले...

Take a good long look, these would be button men under zampolit jurek or a hundred like him.

Inga म्हणाले...

“I want to see Michael Atkinson's testimony.”

I agree. It would prove to be fascinating, I bet.

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

As expected, CNN is trying to renovate the debate performances of their favorites.

Sadly, no voters are watching, just junkies like me.

Inga म्हणाले...

“If Inga is asking if people here believe that the DOJ/FBI/CIA attempted to take down a U.S. President, I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. I certainly do.”

QAnon and The Great Awakening encompasses far more than that.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

The president is normalizing conspiracy theories that portray his political opponents as satanist pedophiles.

"Disclaimer, this is from Vox, who I understand is not a reliable source to many of you, but the content is fascinating and thought provoking."


Fascinating and thought provoking? And you're trying to tar US as nut cases?

narciso म्हणाले...

You must erase shrines from the mind


https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/gabriel-hays/2020/01/14/jeopardy-producers-claim-israel-question-aired-due-human-error

narciso म्हणाले...

Aaron tractor rupar, the heir to ezra '100 year old constitution' klein

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"Sadly, no voters are watching, just junkies like me."

I wanted to, but it was against the Wisconsin basketball game. No mention of Bernie staffers singing the praises of the gulags?

narciso म्हणाले...

Was wTching crisis on infinite earth finale, much more realistic (lol)

Birkel म्हणाले...

The list of people I want called under oath:
Brennan
Clapper
Comey
Page
Strzok
Biden, J
Biden, H
Clinton, H
ICIG Atkinson
Amb. Yovanovitch
Ltc. Vindman
Eric Ciaramrlla, the CIA leaker
Adam Schitt
Agent Pientka
Andrew Weissmann
Robert Mueller
...getting tired of typing again...

Also, I want full declassification of CIA/FBI/DOJ communications about the coup attempt against a sitting US president. All the 702 searches regarding politically connected US persons should be declassified. All the Carter Page FISC filings should be public.

No redactions. Burn the FISC to the ground. Jail the bad actors.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

@Original Mike
maybe U like
from our post the other nite

per @DevinNunes, the ICIG wants to claim his office is incompetent and didn’t know any better. That’s fine but he’s going to have to prove that’s the case.

The Democrats know there’s a problem with the ICIG. His testimony is the only one they haven’t released.

https://amgreatness.com/2020/01/09/intelligence-communitys-inspector-general-is-the-link-between-fisagate-and-impeachment/

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

“ can any of materials transmitted to the Senate for this TRIAL remain confidential, redacted, classified etc.”

You mean transmitted by leakomatic Adam Schifty?

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

"No mention of Bernie staffers singing the praises of the gulags?"

No. The MSM pretend the O'Keefe videos don't exist.

Drago म्हणाले...

Inga: "Disclaimer, this is from Vox, who I understand is not a reliable source...."

LOLOLOLOL

The crew that is called the Juice Box gang for their astonishing ignorance and gullibility.

Vox has never been able to attract any real talent because no established journalist will risk going there, hence Mathew Iglesias the idiot is top dog there.

Btw, blast from the past: The Vox morons published a piece that criticized Israel for not allowing Gazans to use the "30 mile bridge" that "connects Gaza to the West Bank".......LOL

Those idiots believed a bridge connected those 2 areas!!!

So no Inga, some make believe article from Juice Box Vox means absolutely nothing.

And isnt it interesting THAT was all you had to PROVE your laughably false charge.

narciso म्हणाले...

But he is dalton and harvard (hoe could he ever make a mistake) yes the hamas fanboi has made a few.

Inga म्हणाले...

“Fascinating and thought provoking? And you're trying to tar US as nut cases?”

No. I’m trying to understand the appeal of the QAnon thing among Trump supporters and Trump himself. You don’t see anything strange about this?

The president’s recent retweets have conspiracists in overdrive. “Best case is we’re up getting a medal at the White House,” one QAnon luminary gushed.

DanTheMan म्हणाले...

>> the content is fascinating and thought provoking.

So is Lord of the Rings. Another work of fantasy.

The Dems say "Trump tried to use the power of his office to damage a political rival".

Which is EXACTLY what Pelosi just said she did to Trump.

When does her impeachment start?

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"No. I’m trying to understand the appeal of the QAnon thing among Trump supporters and Trump himself. You don’t see anything strange about this?"

I don't accept your premise.

narciso म्हणाले...

No fiction has to make sense, its not evena particularly good piece of spy fiction

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Cuomo, amazingly, just made perfect sense....

"none of you have shown the voters that you can beat Trump"

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"The Democrats know there’s a problem with the ICIG. His testimony is the only one they haven’t released."

Atkinson is dirty.

Drago म्हणाले...

Inga is using lefty conspiracy nuts to attempt to frame Trump voters as conspiracy theorists.

It literally could not be more perfect.

Inga, tell us more about how Trump recklessly and without forethought lashed out insanely to attack Soleimani without the backing of US officials or allies....

.....lies that you were pushing just days ago that have already been destroyed by reality.

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

“ https://amgreatness.com/2020/01/09/intelligence-communitys-inspector-general-is-the-link-between-fisagate-and-impeachment/”

Him, and his old boss, former DOJ NSD AAG Mary McCord who was the highest level person signing the 4 Carter FISA applications before they went to the AG or DAG for their final certification before being transmitted to the FISC. After leaving the DOJ, she joined Lawfare and went work for Schifty and his HSCI. IC IG Atkinson was her chief in-house attorney during that time, and is likely the conduit between Atkinson and Schifty.

Narayanan म्हणाले...

I need to clarify:
Can Pelosi hold back any of the materials and persons Schiff and Nadler used to develop the articles?

Should not the first thing to do be to "mark up" House work product?

McConnell should remand back to Pelosi if case not ready which it clearly is not if more witnesses needed.

Drago म्हणाले...

What, by the way, is a "QAnon luminary"?

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I bet Admiral Mike Rogers would be a hell of a witness.

Drago म्हणाले...

Just today, TODAY, Nancy Pelosi stated Mitch McConnell is a russian asset.

Just today.

Not some random nobody. The Speaker of the House accused the Senate Majority Leader of being a russian asset.

And several other dems in the House reiterated that charge.

Inga also still believes Trump and Carter Page are russian assets.

She also still believes Kavanaugh is a mass gang rape leader.

We clearly need more lectures on conspiracies from Inga.

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Mayor Pete is lauded as 'NICE' by CNN.

Bye, mayor.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I think you got your answer, Inga. No, Trump supporters do not believe in your "QAnon and The Great Awakening". Disappointed?

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

HA HA!

Bloomberg ads now running on CNN!

This is the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen.

narciso म्हणाले...

A nice guy who worked for mckinsey on pentagon and other projects.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

maybe the Dem candidates can band together and cut an album

...the White Album

some samples! Add your own!!

Back in the U.S.S.R.
The Continuing Story of Bungling Joe
Happiness is a Warm Gun
I’m so tired
Blackbird
Piggies
Don’t Pass Me By
Why don’t we do it in the road?
Julia

Inga म्हणाले...

“I think you got your answer, Inga. No, Trump supporters do not believe in your "QAnon and The Great Awakening". Disappointed?”

If you’re correct, I’d be relieved. I think it would serve Trump well not to retweet stuff from QAnon though.

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Amy K. doing her debate follow up now on CNN.

Ann, find the video, I think you'll like it.

narciso म्हणाले...

And maybe pelosi shouldnt hire her counsel dan goldman who bought the steele dissier lock stock and barrel from the fever swamp of msnbc bin ladens favorite channel at one point

Drago म्हणाले...

Admiral Inga: " I think it would serve Trump well not to retweet stuff from QAnon though."

LOLOLOLOL

The left, including you, have repeatedly called Trump a racist/misogynist/literal Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini Destroyer Of Worlds treasonous traitor rapist and mass murderer.

So I'm sure your latest charge will be treated with all the seriousness it deserves........

.......LOL

narciso म्हणाले...

Or david rohdes great opus dei conspiracy involving william barr.

Birkel म्हणाले...

The CIA/FBI/DOJ literally conspired to overthrow a duly elected POTUS.
Recognizing that is not to believe in conspiracies because it is actually still happening.

Drago म्हणाले...

narciso: "Or david rohdes great opus dei conspiracy involving william barr."

Oh, and speaking of the Barrs, the fact that Epstein was hired way way back when by Barr's father for some teaching job means Barr had Epstein killed!

Hey, remember the lefties claiming Prescott Bush literally funded the rise of Hitler?
Reagan conspired with the Ayatollah to hold on to the US hostages to win the election?
George W Bush. MIHOP/LIHOP re: 9/11?
Tailwind?

It just goes on and on and on.

narciso म्हणाले...

To that end they misrepresented multiple ties to western and even north african intelligence and docused on tangential contacts with russia. Similarly with downer his ties to western and chinese apparats or stephan halper with chinese and russian ties, supported by dia proprietaries

narciso म्हणाले...

Well this is a new wrinkle,

forget the fact that epstein started working after barr left dalton, now his ties to hoffenberg and les wexner are a little less easy to ignore as was his partnership with leon black homcho of telemundo

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"Just today, TODAY, Nancy Pelosi stated Mitch McConnell is a russian asset.
Just today.
Not some random nobody. The Speaker of the House accused the Senate Majority Leader of being a russian asset.
And several other dems in the House reiterated that charge."


This kind of behavior is the source of the division our country is experienced. These people are reprehensible.

Gospace म्हणाले...

Drago said...
What, by the way, is a "QAnon luminary"?


Good question. The Daily Beast is a leftist rag. I would surmise from their word choice an acknowledgement by them they believe Q is real.... How else would someone get to be a luminary?

Qwinn म्हणाले...

Inga: "I think it would serve Trump well..."

Yes, you've made it clear how you always have his best interests at heart.

Tip: You will never be a credible concern troll.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I was listening to Mark Steyn today and he made a salient point. He traces all the political strife of the last few years to the democrats inability to accept the results of the 2016 election. Ironic, considering Hillary's charge late in the campaign that it would be Trump acting like the child.

Drago म्हणाले...

I think it would serve Inga well if she confessed that she fell for the hoax dossier conspiracy, the hoax Trump collusion conspiracy, the hoax Carter Page Russian spy conspiracy, the hoax Kavanaugh gang rape leader conspiracy, the hoax emoluments conspiracy, etc etc etc.

narciso म्हणाले...

I dubbed it the basilisk after the creature that turns people to stone. You note every left wing conspiracist and they traipse through that publication

Inga म्हणाले...

“Yes, you've made it clear how you always have his best interests at heart.”

I don’t have Trump’s best interests at heart. I do have my fellow Americans interests at heart. The POTUS shouldn’t be retweeting such groups, it doesn’t serve the American people well, it’s based on nonsense. There is enough misinformation out there, we don’t need a POTUS to add to it.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

RE the debate:

This clown show is so pathetic they could actually bring in Al Sharpton as a last minute last ditch replacement candidate because the current crop is even more awful, and it would be credible.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

The only Q I know is an omnipotent being on Star Trek.

narciso म्हणाले...

Its quite embarassing i picked the highlights of the delusions and deceptions

narciso म्हणाले...

The epstein was so ceazy, even james patterson only put half of it, in his book. Ed buck where does one begin. Or take george nader well hes an arms broker mostly from middle easr clients with other countries, they didnt deal with him for his soarkling personality.

narciso म्हणाले...

The ic report cited him 184 times, viuching for his affirmations.

Birkel म्हणाले...

We don't need a POTUS adding to it.
But the Speaker is just jake.
Time to spend the AMA.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"I do have my fellow Americans interests at heart."

If that were true, you wouldn't be pushing these reckless charges that are tearing us apart. A man you hate was elected President. Tough shit. Grow up.

narciso म्हणाले...

Vouching for his affirmations.

Take mr kollomoisky who owns privat bank which lost at leadt 1.6 billion in us tax dollars privat in turn owns burisma which has a bond villain type soiree every year in monaco with leading European political figures

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

Everyone is posturing right now concerning what witnesses should be called in a Senate trial. The Democrats want to call Bolton. The Republicans are likely to counter with IC IG Atkinson as well as alleged whistleblower Eric Ciaramella. My guess is that there will effectively be a MAD (mutually assured destruction) compromise not to call witnesses. Of course, the House Democrats can’t figure out what they want to do - on the one hand they are supposed to vote tomorrow (1/15) on sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate. On the other, HSCI Schifty is talking about reopening his investigation. Should be interesting.

narciso म्हणाले...

'Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war' also release the atomics

narciso म्हणाले...

In three years no heavy weapons wrre sent to ukraine, when it was a life of death struggle along the dnieper.

narciso म्हणाले...

For, but there was plenty of #hashtsgs and food rations, but thats when you need when facing your hegemon.

Inga म्हणाले...

“If that were true, you wouldn't be pushing these reckless charges that are tearing us apart.”

If I thought the charges were reckless, I’d give them no credence. What the rest of America is worried about is that a reckless president is tearing the nation apart. We’re not going to see eye to eye on eye on this, that is pretty clear.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

re: 'Burisma hacking'

Same nonsensical excuse as Hillary’s emails. Disclosure of hacked documents only “influence” election if it shows bad behavior by the candidate.
How would Burisma emails “interfere” in the election if there’s nothing there?
Obviously getting ahead of something...
per julie kelly

Birkel म्हणाले...

Ignore the economic well being of your fellow citizens.
They'll surely reward you for a years long tantrum.

narciso म्हणाले...

Rosenont seneca and their estonian and cypriot branches are wirthy of note.unlike say the bogus chabad ring supposedly in contact with putin, which sounds like protocols 2electric boogaloo.

narciso म्हणाले...

Rosemont, just another way to loot a country dry pay a gratuity to greese the wheels.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"What the rest of America is worried about ..."

Regardless of the lack of evidence, you think Trump conspired with Russia to steal an election. A loon like you has no standing to speak for "the rest of America".

narciso म्हणाले...

Everytime they make a claim against trump they just look in the mirror


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/how-iranian-protesters-are-receiving-trump-administration-support?fbclid=IwAR2d7Ah6m61xC8RacipHo7IHnRkbCGA8XvsV4_TY1nSreb7EWURCsyyAdYI

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

“Good question. The Daily Beast is a leftist rag. I would surmise from their word choice an acknowledgement by them they believe Q is real.... How else would someone get to be a luminary?”

Funny thing though is that Q appears routinely to be fairly accurate a lot of the time.

It very much appears that President Trump has some connection to Q. He has on numerous instances validated Q posts. One theory is that Q is Eric Trump. Another is that Q is tied to military intelligence. in any case, a number of prominent people on the left, Democrats and Deep Staters, are very scared of Q, surmising, probably for good reason, that their misdeeds are going to be exposed in the near future. Which, of course, is why Inga was dissing Q and his Qanons tonight.

buwaya म्हणाले...

I am of course a broken record, with respect to US politics. I don't post much because there really isn't much to add.

But to reiterate- the only realistic approach to understanding current events, and much of history, is through what so many dismiss as "conspiracy theory".

The full truth behind the public phenomena we can occasionally glimpse is obscured, deliberately and circumstantially. We have a very poor idea of what is going on behind the curtain. We have very little to go on with which to create a worthwhile model of the ongoing conflicts.

And we are subject to constant deliberate manipulation through the media, pushing narratives designed by - whom? for what purpose? That part is also behind the curtain. All we can know, through observation of patterns and inadvertent information leaks, is that there are persons behind it, and that they have a purpose.

Qanon is no less, or more, manipulative than the MSM. It is pushing a different narrative, through a different and innovative method, using a different frame, and just occasionally providing additional facts, or changing the emphasis of certain facts vs others. There is no reason to dismiss Qanon's narrative and frame just because it diverges from the MSM.

One thing though that Qanon repeatedly emphasises is the need to do your own research, and find facts for yourself. Not something the MSM encourages! Our local ideal with respect to this bit of Q's advice, should be narciso, who does a superlative job of hunting "open source" information, and making connections that others don't.

The grand conspiracy of Qanon is not absurd. It is actually the well known analysis of hegemony that goes back to Gramsci, if not earlier. It has been elaborated by many others, "left" or "right" regardless, as it is not really ideological. Noam Chomsky and Angelo Codevilla are both really saying the same thing.

As for pedophiles and etc. - well, there certainly is a lot of smoke in that direction, no? This should not be a surprise. A decadent elite that feels secure in its impunity is prone to callous personal misbehavior among many of its members, sometimes on a grand scale. And about which the hegemonic power elite is prone to close ranks to protect, for the sake of mutual benefit. This is also a lesson of history.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Good grief. Good night.

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