ADDED: Is it really suicide? NYT:
Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide at Manhattan JailAND: This happens as new information hits: "Jeffrey Epstein Accuser Names Powerful Men in Alleged Sex Ring/In newly unsealed documents, Virginia Giuffre claims that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell trafficked her to politicians, princes, and a high-flying financier, among others" (Daily Beast):
Mr. Epstein, the financier indicted on sex trafficking charges last month, hung himself and his body was found this morning.
Virginia Giuffre, who says that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked her to powerful people for erotic massages and sex, claimed in depositions in 2016 that Maxwell directed her to have sex with former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Britain’s Prince Andrew (whom she has accused before), wealthy financier Glenn Dubin, former senator George Mitchell, now-deceased MIT scientist Marvin Minsky, and modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, as well as “another prince,” a "foreign president," a well-known prime minsiter" and the owner of a “large hotel chain” in France.ALSO: Back on July 24th, there was news of a suicide attempt by Epstein. I was dubious at the time. With a recent suicide attempt — by hanging, too — how was he kept in a way that would allow him to kill himself by hanging? He was so important as a person with knowledge of possible crimes by many other people — such important people — the government had an especially strong obligation to keep him alive.
PLUS: Who will believe this was truly suicide? The conspiracy theories will go on forever. This is like Jack Ruby shooting Lee Harvey Oswald. Even if Epstein directly sought and achieved his own death, the authorities apparently KNEW that he wanted to kill himself and therefore they caused the death by not stopping it. They were on notice and they let him do it. I infer they wanted him dead and got what they wanted, whether he killed himself or not.
MORE:
I agree @AOC.— Rep. Matt Gaetz (@RepMattGaetz) August 10, 2019
Chairman @RepJerryNadler should prioritize a Judiciary investigation into how Jeffrey Epstein died in federal custody (in Nadler’s own neighborhood!) over the Kavanaugh confirmation (which already happened), and the Russia hoax (which never happened).
AND: I'm checking out the hashtags on Twitter, and what I'm seeing is the political weaponization of the Epstein death. Some people are jumping to blame the Clintons, and anything that seems like conspiracy thinking is already triggering observations that you're a nutcase.
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«সবচেয়ে পুরাতন ‹পুরাতন 315 এর 201 – থেকে 315Perhaps why did the times the journal the ap pointed leave it of the story
I term I had never seen before, over at Legal Insurrection just now “Arkanicide”.
For the Inquiring minds out there, this is too big a screw up to be real. The chances are that Epstein was taken away by the Feds for safe keeping and a fake body was removed.
Arkancide is very old. Comes from Freerepublic in the 90's.
Although I tend to think it was a passively assisted suicide, I am suspicious about the timing.
Why do extremely controversial "news dumps" come out on Friday night/Saturday morning?
Someone probably linked this before, but JIC: CDC: People With Dirt On Clintons Have 843% Greater Risk Of Suicide (Actual Article)
The Babylon Bee!
Victoria Secret girls were quite clean and attractive in a catty way in 1991, but then by late 1992 or so (when I decided I should try ordering a catalogue), weren't, by and large (disappointing). A very sudden drop off. I'm thinking now that probably this has to do with Epstein having in 1991 gotten a powerful power of attorney giving him the ability to do most anything in Wexner's name.
That Epstein had an interest in Victoria's Secret suggest to me he is into girls being cruel. But catty girls, tending to love sexual purity in the antisodomy sense don't by nature like men who try to give them "lessons in giving blowjobs" (a common name for instances of oral sodomy). I wouldn't be at all surprised if Epstein tried to force girls to be cruel just to give others the impression that catty girls around him liked being cruel to others while intimate him. He may have tried to force girls to get or manufacture dirt on the rich and powerful even if it involved forcing them to lie or be vicious to an extent beyond his own self-interest, just to create an image he may have wanted (that girls liked being cruel when intimate with him). In other words, he may have been something of a zombifier like (say) Charles Manson, only instead of forcing girls to kill, he may have forced them to make slanderous stuff up or collect salacious material even if it were more in his non-sexual self interest to be blind. I think William is right that maybe Epstein was "blackmailing top men"--more probably than has come out.
Wexner, who controlled Victoria's Secret after 1982, apparently was from Dayton, Ohio, which has been in the news lately. Makes me wonder whether somehow Epstein's life began to intersect with the low-life (typically lower class) scum who use zombification for killing rather than blackmail.
From out here in flyover country I have one request. Keep flying over.
And don't bring those Washington bureaucrats out here, either. A swamp is the best place for them.
I guess I have two requests.
Suicide, huh.
Sure. I totally believe that. I saw Elvis the other day. Driving a cab.
Is that rain?
It's grim to have to admit it, but I won money on this.
Bruce -you do realize that article is parody?
As opposed to the daily basilisk or the times when they've given louise mensch a column.
Richardson was negotiating unsuccessfully with n Korea up until 2016 no.
Word on the street is that Epstein actually broke out, but stole more chain than he could swim with.
Narr
That'll be covered up, for sure
Steve uhr said...
Bruce -you do realize that article is parody?
Award winning leftist journalist explains:
"Fake but accurate"
I can't wait to hear the explanation for how a man this important hangs himself in a cell under suicide watch. A couple honest 8 year-olds could prevent this, start to finish. They could figure out how to prevent it, and handle the watch all by themselves. Somebody there definitely needs fired so they can go off and enjoy the money they earned for this.
Blogger FullMoon said...
“Lets hope that realization of another Clinton threat suddenly meeting their ends up improving LLR Chuck's mood, lest he begins to go after the children of republicans again.”
One might wonder if such a person who also repeatedly fantasized about attacking a petite newswoman to "show her how it feels" and who maniacally argued about the origins of a pecan pie should be allowed to own firearms.
How many more red flags are needed?
You’re not baiting me today, you miserable fucking shitbag. Not you, not Drago, not Michael K. But instead of engaging me on some topic of substance, you all — as always — chose the personal attack route. So here’s to you all. A simple, free, contentless comment by me as {#49}.
I volunteered to Bay Area Guy that I would not count posts unless I was offering something tangible. In good faith and fairness, I did not want to game our agreement. Bay Area Guy — a total standup guy — didn’t make that demand on me. I volunteered it. And I’ve stuck to it. As I high-step to the goal line (where I shall happily hand the ball off to Bay Area Guy and let him spike it), I say thank you very little to you select handful of hateful shit heads.
For the penultimate Number 49.
Alex I'll take "Arkancide" for $250.
As if this doesn't happen In New York or off black friars bridge in London, anyways Jonathan winer was a staffer for John Kerry's committee, which accepted the lowest shreds of debris as witness, like the cartel accountant ramon milian Rodriguez or Geraldo Morales, known importer
There is enough out there about Epstein’s habits and hobbies and peculiarities, including the fact that he wanted to cryogenically preserve his head and penis, that suicide is incredibly unlikely to be an out for him. His profile is incompatible with suicide.
He was either murdered or he’s still alive, but it’s beyond credulity that he took his own life.
The people behind the people have gotten extraordinarily brazen.
There's a 1 in 3 chance that this was a self-abortion.
You’re not baiting me today, you miserable fucking shitbag. Not you, not Drago, not Michael K.
That's it, let it all out little fella.
Feel better now?
Poor Chuck, or "The Other Chuck" as he calls himself at Neo. He is paranoid without reason.
We are all familiar with the LLR. I see them on facebook., They used to call Rush Limbaugh and Hugh Hewitt.
Two favorite Hugh Hewitt callers: One was a reporter/pundit. He always asked one question of interviewees he didn't know. "Do you agree that Alger Hiss was a communist?" She hung up.
The other was a caller, a woman, who said she didn't pay attention to party, She just voted for the best candidate. Hugh asked her who the vice president was, (Cheney) She didn't know.
Chuck is in there somewhere.
“Bruce -you do realize that article is parody?”
Accurate? No. Humorous? Yes. Very. Parody? Somewhat, but not exactly.
When I first ran into the picture of Crooked Hillary and that statistic, it was over at Powerline’s week in pictures. But the quote of the article was straight from the source: the Babylon Bee. Remember a week it so ago when we were discussing Snopes, or another of those bogus leftist fact checkers, fact checking the Bee? I think by now that most people here expect humor when you link to one of their articles.
steve uhr said...
Bruce -you do realize that article is parody?
Not until Snopes debunks it.
Well the Babylon bee, is tongue in cheek but the times the journal and the post, are super cereal.
"Hmmm, not on suicide watch?"
-- Whoever made that decision should probably be first on the "fire'em all" conveyor belt.
8/10/19, 11:08 AM
Should be watched closely for spending. And the wider family, too.
I would put a very small amount of money on his being ensconced in an FBI safe house someplace, like in eastern Colorado or some similarly rural, remote location.
The black friars bridge was where Roberto calvi leading Italian financier hung him seld from in 1982.
Was it Babylon Bee that reported that Politifacts found all the democratic candidates statements during the debates "true" two days prior to the actual debate?
Did cursing people violate the agreement, Bay Area Guy?
Quaestor said...
Someone probably linked this before, but JIC: CDC: People With Dirt On Clintons Have 843% Greater Risk Of Suicide (Actual Article)
The Babylon Bee!
That's not funny.
Ann said so.
Joe Scarborough thinks the Russians are behind this. I kid you not.
The Left thinks Trump ordered the hit because JE was going to rat him out.
I think Prince Andrew sent James Bond.
Most likely: Epstein paid the guards in Bitcoin to look the other way.
What about Epstein’s situation and personality makes you think he’d take his own life?
That’s about the only thing at this point that would shock me: convincing evidence of Epstein’s suicide. Is such evidence even possible in the deepfakes era?
"What about Epstein’s situation and personality makes you think he’d take his own life?"
-- He tried once before?
Did he? I haven’t seen any strong reporting to that effect, and actually the earliest reports suggested that his juiced up jail mate was involved.
Blogger Chuck said...
I see that it was mere minutes before “Clintoning,” “Vince Foster” and “Seth Rich” we’re invoked.
Just yesterday, Michael Isikoff did a must-hear interview with substitute host Dave Davies on the NPR program, “Fresh Air.” Isikoff has a new podcast, “Conspiracyland,” about the laughable insanity of the alt-right (and significantly the Russians) in generating the grand myth that Seth Rich was murdered for his involvement in DNC/Clinton communications. Just like Vince Foster.
Chuck,
I have always been agnostic on the matter of your long-term political affiliations. But I will say that I do not know many conservatives who a) listen to NPR and b) use the term alt-right. That preface aside, do you believe that the leadership class of the United States of America is above assassinating persons of extreme inconvenience? I don't. I am right there with Buwaya, I don't think our leadership class is one iota more moral than that of China or Russia.
According to sources, officials do not know whether Epstein tried to hang himself, if he staged a suicide attempt, or if he was assaulted.
This is a typically hazy report of the incident a few weeks ago.
Blogger Matt Sablan said...
"What about Epstein’s situation and personality makes you think he’d take his own life?"
-- He tried once before?
Rehearsal ? Watch bank accounts of the prison guards. Probably in Switzerland. Watch who retires and moves to Europe in 6 months.
The ex-cop roommate missed a nice payday,
The latest joke making the rounds:
“Epstein’s suicide surprised a lot of people. Epstein himself was the most surprised of all.”
I don't think our leadership class is one iota more moral than that of China or Russia.
Certainly since 2000 or maybe 1992. The Clintons brought the politics of Arkansas with a touch of left wing mendacity provided by Hillary. The Travel Office affair was the tell. Not only were they all fired but she tried to get them imprisoned.
That is serious psychopathology. Plenty for Seth Rich and Epstein.
"PLUS: Who will believe this was truly suicide? The conspiracy theories will go on forever. This is like Jack Ruby shooting Lee Harvey Oswald. Even if Epstein directly sought and achieved his own death, the authorities apparently KNEW that he wanted to kill himself and therefore they caused the death by not stopping it. They were on notice and they let him do it. I infer they wanted him dead and got what they wanted, whether he killed himself or not."
Exactly. And thank you for the Jack Ruby comment. We who never bought into the convenient coincidence of that shooting are called nutty conspiracy theorists.
From out here in flyover country I have one request. Keep flying over.
The native americans thought the same thing, they were promised that white folk were just moving through.
They are not going to leave you alone. These people get off on making you do things just to have made you do a thing.
Like making you pretend there are five lights when there are really just four
Like making you attend and celebrate a gay wedding. Don't ever be the first to stop clapping
Like making you repaint your door from SeaFoam#4 to SeaFoam#5, when no one can tell the difference, because the Homeowners Assoc has banned SeaFoam#4.
Do not for a moment think they will fly over and leave you alone. They have a hierarchy and they need you at the bottom, eating soy as you peddle your bicycle to work, while the "thought leaders" zoom by in their limo on the way to a Kobe Steak Extravaganza at the Marriot for a weekend of luxury paid for by your tax dollars.
They will never leave you alone. The Ctrl-Left gets off on controlling others.
"I have read too much information and I have spoken to too many people on the inside," Sarnoff said. "I actually attempted to interview Clinton but he did not agree to do so and I know from the pilot logs and these are pilot logs that you know were written by different pilots and at different times, that Clinton went, he was a guest of Epstein's 27 times."
"Many of those times Clinton had his Secret Service with him and many times he did not," Sarnoff continued. "Almost every time that Clinton's name is on the pilot logs there are underage girls, there are initials, and there are names of many many girls on that private plane."
GBFen [who only wishes he looked like Denzel Washington]:
On the wokeness scale, I find Alaska is pretty far down but, just as with Arizona, wokeness is seeping in like flesh-eating bacteria, at least in Haines. The only place in the state where the locals are rude, staff at the IGA are trans and Californians are eagerly selling their homes to move to. It's likely to spread. Every stunningly beautiful place in the country is bought up by the woke elite--the Pacific Northwest, Montana, the Tetons in Wyoming. Alaska will be next since it's bound to spread from Haines to other communities. Sad.
This is like Jack Ruby shooting Lee Harvey Oswald.
No, Ruby shooting Oswald is like when Nicholas Tartaglione gets shot while trying to escape next week.
Good catch, bgates! Should read while 'trying to escape', yes?
GBFen [who only wishes he looked like Denzel Washington]:
Word.
Well, the DoJ is going to investigate. Make of that what you will.
The arm of the Clintons is very long indeed.
Great cartoons on the updated Powerline cartoon site. Scroll to the middle for Epstein cartoons.
The Babylon Bee saw this coming last week:
CDC: People with dirt on Clintons have a 843 greater risk of suicide
I'm guessing two shots to the back of the head.
Freder Frederson said...
This fubar may mean it's lights out too for Mayor DeBlasio's prez candidacy.
While I agree that DeBlasio's candidacy is dead, saying it will die because of something that happened in federal prison (over which he has no jurisdiction) is extremely silly.
8/10/19, 9:33 AM
Freder is now on track to be right again at 9:33 PM. Choose wisely, Freder. Tick-tock!
hey bgates how have you been?
oh really:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/07/27/after-jeffrey-epstein-injured-in-jail-nbc-news-gets-out-ahead-of-the-clinton-body-count-conspiracy-theory/
Yancey Ward said...
The only surprising thing to me is that the first "attempt" failed.
He must have been in "Rasputin mode."
Columbiana (2011) and Closed Circuit (2013) show how to kill somebody in jail.
I say :
Impeach Barr.
Then impeach Trump for picking.
Barr is GOPe insurance policy.
LOL - Mockturtle@ 2:16
*hiccup*
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/08/msnbc-contributor-wants-pitchforks-and-torches-outside-trump-fundraisers-home/
Barbara O'Brien writes about "Dead Men Tell No Tales."
Nobody in the U.S.A. believes that Epstein alone was responsible for his death. The Right is certain that Hillary Who Can Bend Time and Space to Her Evil Will Clinton, She Who Is Behind All Nefarious Plots, ordered the death to protect Bill. The Left, of course, is very certain the person being protected is Trump and/or someone close to him. But there are a great many people with money and power with a keen interest in this case.
But, gee, who is in charge of the criminal justice system these days? And who has a history of interceding in the prison sentences of, um, certain convicts?
William Barr’s Justice Department is now openly running legal interference for Paul Manafort!
Pretend Republicans like gadfly and Chuck love to quote left-wing publications like online webzine Slate.
#sad
The Manhattan Corrections Center is located at 150 Park Row. Which really sounds like an uptown address, but it's apparently not.
they wanted him, not to end up like Epstein, for a non violent offense, meanwhile judge Jackson (who once upon a time defended William Jefferson) drops two fara related charges for greg craig,
There was an episode of The Wire, where the KingPin drug dealer hired a prisoner to "hang" his nephew, and they showed how to make it look like a suicide. Essentially, the prisoner choked him out from behind, then hung a strap from the door knob, around his neck. It was done very smoothly, and efficiently. My description doesn't do it justice. I'll try to find the YouTube link.
But, gee, who is in charge of the criminal justice system these days? And who has a history of interceding in the prison sentences of, um, certain convicts?
Interesting deflection, Gadfly.
If I visit the Lefty websites, will they give me even more talking points to deflect the upcoming investigations?
Maybe it's time to return to Brett Kavanaugh running a college girl rape gang in high school. Fat Jerry is in that case.
Slate is like Vanity Fair.
I laugh at both.
And who has a history of interceding in the prison sentences of, um, certain convicts?
Well, there was judge Sullivan who threw out the conviction of Ted Stevens for prosecutorial misconduct, a bit like Andrew Weissmann in the Flynn case. Those Clinton appointed prosecutors were not fired, though. Another Hillary time travel, I guess.
‘If that fucking bastard wins, we all hang from nooses!
One way or another, because maybe:
-Justice is served
-you're a liability to the Derp State
-you're guilty and take 'the easy way out'
dont blame Trump
"Barr was reportedly "livid" when he learned of Epstein's death, and has initiated a Justice Department investigation into the matter.
"I was appalled to learn that Jeffrey Epstein was found dead early this morning from an apparent suicide while in federal custody. Mr. Epstein's death raises serious questions that must be answered. In addition to the FBI's investigation, I have consulted with the Inspector General who is opening an investigation into the circumstances of Mr. Epstein's death," Barr said in a statement.
Shockingly, despite an apparent suicide attempt less than three weeks ago, Epstein was not on suicide watch at the time of his death, Department of Justice spokesman Lee Plourde told the New York Post." ~ The Blaze.
Look at it this way. Epstein was a lot more valuable as a dead man than a live one to a lot of powerful people. Shit. The minute he was arrested I knew he wouldn't live to testify. Easy bet.
Epstein dead!
Barbarino, Horshack and Washington shocked.
Minnesota farm guy @ 2:15 linked to "The Week in Pictures" at Powerline. Exceptionally funny stuff this week. Some had me laughing out loud.
Oso Negro: "Chuck, I have always been agnostic on the matter of your long-term political affiliations. But I will say that I do not know many conservatives who a) listen to NPR and b) use the term alt-right."
Oh that's nothing!!!
LLR Chuck is also on record calling every Trump supporter a "John Bircher".
You know, like any real conservative would.....LOL.
For the record, LLR Chuck still refuses to attack any and all democrat candidates for office.
How can he? It would look too "suspicious" when he moves to Dem Defense Mode after the primaries.
And Oso Negro, you would'nt believe how often LLR Chuck links to the far left radical Coup-supporting Lawfareblog.
It's one of LLR Chuck's absolute favorites, even though not even the NeverTrumpers dare to link to such an obvious hack left crew.
But not our LLR Chuck!! Nosirree. Chuckie is all over the Lawrence Tribe-ites!!!
New name for when a pedophile kills himself in jail: Epstein Bar Syndrome
"Trump's Racist Rhetoric Causes Jewish Man to Commit Suicide"
For those of us that believe that people have a right to their own bodies, and can choose suicide, did he lose his right to suicide on arrest, before being convicted? Why should the govenment be allowed to put someone on suicide watch?
Are Epstein's alleged trafficking victims still able to go after his estate, such as it is, now that he's dead?
It’s a good thing our betters have already destroyed our faith in political institutions or something like this would have a disastrous effect on it.
The combination of this brazen elimination of Epstein and the continued Russia-hoax drama is as strong a signal of our societal decline as the economic indicators we were told were never going to rise to previous levels. With this level of rot on full display and the bipartisan nature of the Epstein outrage, I can only hope that we’re at a point where something like a preference cascade will create a bloc of people bent on supporting severe institutional reform, including disbanding of many.
So are we officially a banana republic yet? Just a few years ago that sounded ridiculous ...
"Jeffrey Epstein was a colleague, mentor, and most importantly a friend. His silence will echo around the world and, hopefully, inspire others to stay quiet themselves. For the only peace in this life is in quiet contemplation,"
a eulogy from Hillary Clinton.
(parody by NeoTimes)
Listened to Chicago Progressive radio. Thought they would be blaming Trump by now but they were strangely cautious. Their only real comment was that all Americans were united (united at last!) in rejecting the idea that Epstein committed suicide. Then they gave a little lecture on how it was a glory of the American system that the accused receive a presumption of innocence and we should remember this, when we think about the people (Democrats) named in Epstein's indictment. Then came another little lecture on how powerful people should not be allowed to get away with pedophilia even if a case collapses due to the death of the only named defendant. Then came a lecture on maintaining Democratic unity in order to defeat Trump. It became my opinion as I listened that Hillary is (at last!) finished.
On an unrelated topic and naming no names, the country is united on who was the nameless Whoever behind this death and Whoever-it-was is not going to be the Democratic Presidential candidate. For one thing, people are probably afraid to be near Whoever-got-this-done. Although Whoever-it-was would represent the Dems quite well. But, no.
And again I say, (no connection), Hillary is done.
So I'm celebrating tonight.
“He was so important as a person with knowledge of possible crimes by many other people — such important people — the government had an especially strong obligation to keep him alive.”
Thank you for the belly laugh, Althouse!
"For those of us that believe that people have a right to their own bodies, and can choose suicide, did he lose his right to suicide on arrest, before being convicted?"
I would say yes, he did. Arrest by definition is an arrest of some of your rights, at least temporarily to assure that you participate in the process of the judicial system. You are not free to associate, communicate, fornicate, etc. at will, and since you are most specifically not free to escape this arrest, and since suicide is a form of escaping the judicial process, then logically you are not free to commit suicide, and I agree with that even though I support a free man's right to suicide, but a man under arrest is not currently free.
'the government had an especially strong obligation to keep him alive." Althouse
While others had an especially stronger obligation to see him dead. Lets see if there is an autopsy report. My bet is; inconclusive. His pimp should be very nervous right now. Why. She just may disappear.
Thanks Wendybar. I typically avoid Twitter (AOS hat tip for the first link), but Joe's having a bad day.
Ann, it's amusing that you purport to be (i) surprised this has occurred and (ii) somehow of the belief that under the circumstances his keepers (instrumentalities of the State of New York!) were more especially interested in his continued existence than his demise.
In Japan they have the grace to leave you alone with a blade or gun with the strong suggestion that if you don't do the job, someone else will. None of this messy hanging stuff, with poo all over the place.
"A couple honest 8 year-olds could prevent this, start to finish." Just give them some Co-Colas and .22s and have them shoot the rope or sheet or whatever when he's getting going.
Imagine the poor bastard who's job it will be to eulogize Epstein.
anything other than The Official Government Explanation
is a Conspiracy Theory. Got that?
There simply are no other plausible, rational possibilities.
if you say "I Call Bullshit", or "Hey, Something Doesnt Quite Add Up Here",
it's because you are a Tin-Foil Hat-wearing Conspiracy Nut.
So-- do you want to be one of those nuts in Room 101?
There simply are no other plausible, rational possibilities.
if you say "I Call Bullshit", or "Hey, Something Doesnt Quite Add Up Here",
it's because you are a Tin-Foil Hat-wearing Conspiracy Nut.
And the FBI says you therefore! are a special threat. They're gonna need a bigger list maker.
"What was Jack Ruby's real name?
https://www.google.com.au/search?client=opera&q=what+was+jack+ruby%27s+real+name&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
It sounds like LLR Chuck was a "Rolcon."
The “stalwarts” are those activists paid to go on-line into all social media platforms and defend the interests of the far-left ideology. It would appear Mr. Epstein’s death has activated the need for an urgent crisis response from the political left.
I wonder who will attend the funeral. Probably not Katie Couric or George Stephenapoulos.
Some of the people named in documents found in Epstein's apartment were claiming deficiencies in the search warrant and that the evidence should be suppressed. I read elsewhere today that Epstein's death means all those motions are dead in the water. Since the evidence cannot be used to prosecute Epstein, it's admissible, since he was the only person who could challenge it.
Perhaps our professor hostess could clear that up. Where I read it wasn't a legal blog.
To summarize:
- Epstein probably dead in the NYC federal facility
- Epstein either tried to kill himself earlier, or there was an attempt on his life several weeks ago
- regardless of who tried to kill him, it had to look like a suicide attempt, so he was put on suicide watch
- He was removed from suicide watch either several hours or several days before his death
- He was still supposed to be individually monitored every 15 minutes. Hadn’t apparently happened that night at all (possibly from the time he supposedly, maybe, was removed from suicide watch at midnight that night)
- Cameras went offline that night too.
- Several weeks ago, his attorney, when arguing for bail, told the court that he was a dead man walking if he didn’t get bail. He didn’t.
In short, it stinks.
Trump is gonna get most of those pedos and pederasts jailed or self terminated judicial pro criminal parlor tricks notwithstanding.
Trump is the leading suspect in Epstein's murder. Click Here For Why Trump Killed Epstein
Trump was all but exonerated by the girl whose testimony was recently and shockingly unsealed. She named Minsky, which is sad. There are other salient facts so far disclosed. But do carry on. Eight years plus whatever the wind down period is of TDS will be hard to recover from tho.
Trump is the leading suspect in Epstein's murder.
LOL. No he is not. He's already been cleared of Epstein 3 times. First, by kicking him off the hotel property when he found out Epstein was sexually harassing the female staff, and two more times by Epstein's girls themselves.
Please go spam-pimp your stupid no comment blog somewhere else.
His death was overdetermined. He wanted it, very powerful people wanted it, he had money and ways of paying people off and the people who wanted him dead, the same.
One thing the Trump administration has done is show how the people who actually run our government abuse any faith we put into it.
That has only been shown because the latest crop of a likely long line of abusers thought a different candidate would prevail.
Not only were they all fired but she tried to get them imprisoned.
F. Roosevelt courts-martialed the admirals he duped into being there for an attack the communications codes concerning which his folks and therefore he had long broke. His subsequent lionization - despite teaming up with commies led by the execrable Josef Stalin may have guided the lady.
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