६ मे, २०१९

"You aren’t enjoying reading? Then read longer! Read faster! The problem is you!"

"But the corollary to this way of reading — of taking books down in gulps rather than sips — is that you will discover much more quickly when a book isn’t for you, and you can then set it aside without the nagging suspicion that you might have sabotaged it by your method of ingestion.... Once I’m actually enjoying a book, it really does feel as if the pages are turning themselves; I find myself reading in all the little pockets of time that were once reserved for the serious business of checking to see if my dishwasher pods have shipped. And pleasure is, after all — once I scrape away the layers of self-image and pretentiousness — the reason that I read. When I’ve found the right book, and I’m reading it the right way, reading is fun — head-tingling, goosebump-raising fun. It’s a vivid and continuous dream that is somehow both directed from without and cast from within, and I get to be awake for it. Netflix can wait."

From "Why You Should Start Binge-Reading Right Now" by Ben Dolnick (NYT).

Have you lost the habit of reading books — either because you've become binge-watcher of TV (which I hate to tell you is all that Netflix is) or because you've been reading screens and have developed a style of reading (searching, wandering, jumping about, writing) that is so completely different from what a book seems to want you to do to it? If so, maybe the solution is to find a new way to read books that is more like what you've been doing staring into screens. That's where Dolnick (a novelist) wants to push you. It involves sitting with a book for a long time but reading it fast — binge-reading.

Will that work? Dolnick discovered the method he recommends one night when he had nothing to do all evening but read a book: "the power went out and, unable to watch Netflix or engage in my customary internet fugue, I lit a candle and picked up a thriller by Ruth Rendell." At some point he found he was reading very quickly and the reading material proved fascinating and compelling. If you'd just read fast and long, you could have the same experience. Even if the power is not off? Even if there's still some life in the battery of any iPad or laptop? Well, he's saying he made the discovery under these stark limitations. You can just take his advice and do it.

But how? You've restructured your mind. You've followed your own impulses and responses, and you've come to find reading nonlinearly, jumpily, on-line is your style. That's me. Maybe you're the person who binge-watches television. But whatever. You're doing it your way. Why should you change? Because you should be reading books? Dolnick isn't saying that. He's saying reading is fun. (Like the old library poster.)

I understand the concept: If you'd just get to the point where you see what Dolnick saw that time when the power went off, you'd keep going and you'd make book-reading your thing too. It would be just as good as the other things you've been doing with your attention — or better. Maybe, but are we not having fun with our on-screen reading? Are we not having fun watching television? I guess I could read a book on the psychology of fun. I have read in a book — long ago (this book) — that the things we fall into doing for fun can put us in a condition of entropy, which doesn't feel good at all. Anyway, I doubt if the enticement to reading books — come on, it's fun — will work on many adults, and when I think about spending more time sitting with an actual book, I don't think about racing through it, gulping. I think about looking at really great sentences and experiencing aesthetic pleasure.

But that's just me. And I've found a way to read a lot of books. I go for long walks and listen to audiobooks. That forces me to proceed through the whole thing linearly. My jumping-around style of reading on line can't take over. I'm on the book's time. And I'm getting out, moving around, and giving my eyes a break from looking at words. That works for me. I think my solution is better than Dolnick's, better for me anyway, perhaps because what I do reading (and writing) on line is better than what Dolnick says he does — the "internet fugue" of poking around doing things like "checking to see if my dishwasher pods have shipped." And I think the books I'm audiobook-reading are higher quality. A thriller by Ruth Rendell? I know. It's for fun. That makes me feel like poking around on the internet, getting ideas about the history, philosophy, and psychology of fun... and then write a blog post about it, have an in-person conversation about the blog post with Meade, and then go on a long walk and listen to "Kafka on the Shore."

You have your fun, I'll have mine.

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Leland म्हणाले...

tl;dr

I'll wait for the audiobook version of the post. At least that's how I typically enjoy books these days.

Darrell म्हणाले...

What's wrong with watching TV?

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"What's wrong with watching TV?"

It doesn't produce flow.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

I liked some books enough in the 80s to type them in so as to be able to search them easily (Wittgenstein, Levinas). Incidentally typing books in isn't reading and you don't remember anything from it; it's the actual normal reading that sticks.

Anyway these days I listen to them via a text-to-morse code mp3 converter, on the daily bicycle commute. So that's well over an hour a day of audio book, albeit 40wpm morse code.

The effect is that they guy is writing the book before your eyes, not like an audio book at all. It's spelling and anticipating the rest of the word or recovering the beginning from the ending, letter stuff.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

Here's a comment over there: "I read about 70 books a year. I do this by never having joined Facebook, Instagram, Twitter or any other social media. My TV watching is confined to Jeopardy, MLB and NBA. I am so happy that I have books!"

Reading that, my reaction was, in this order: 1. This is written like an essay a 6th grader was forced to write, 2. That's a whole hell of a lot of TV, MLB and NBA, 3. I like Jeopardy, but Jeopardy and nothing else is a good day of TV for me, 4. I wonder what's up on Facebook right now... must click.

Temujin म्हणाले...

I find that, over the past 5 (10?) years, I do my best reading on a plane. For better or worse, I fly quite often. So I get 2-6 hours of quiet, mostly uninterrupted time to just forget about work, or the world, and dive into a good book. At home, I'm ADHD. Too many things compete for my attention. Part of it is the era we live in, where my addiction to the laptop or my phone is annoying, but I seem not to be able to control it. Then there's the TV: GoT, Stanley Cup Hockey, other sporting events, and of course- Trump vs Dems. It all all gets old, but it's in my face seemingly at all turns, except on a plane.

My wife would love to get rid of the TV. I used to think that was crazy. I'm changing. The more I fly, the more I fall in love with reading again. And the more I read, the less important TV is becoming. Except for sports...of course.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

I just watched a three new DVDs (Morgan, Rust Creek, Wind River) and notice a sudden absence of tits, compared to everything older. I rewatch older stuff and there's always tits.

Either they've figured out that tits aren't much of an attraction in the porn-everywhere age or #metoo has stunned the studio editors.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

I can do that with good story-telling, but I mix in other kinds of books and it's a bit of a slog. Without the narrative pulling me along, I read slowly and can only get through about 20 pages a day with the time available. Which means it takes weeks.

The problem with too many books today is that they are far longer than the story requires.

1) There are a lot of decent 500 page fiction books that might be great if they were 400 pages, or even better 350. I blame computers, which make rewriting too easy and so authors drone on too long.

2) Most self-help-type books would be great 50-page long-form magazine articles. But a book is at least 250 pages, so they stuff it with 200 pages of time wasting.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Maybe young starlett has matured will no longer mean she reached 18 and took her top off.

Darrell म्हणाले...

or #metoo has stunned the studio editors.

Witness the difference between Season 1 and Season 2 of Westworld. Hollywood is letting SJWs call the shots because of past sins.

Darrell म्हणाले...

"What's wrong with watching TV?"

"It doesn't produce flow."

Then why do I have to visit the bathroom every hour?

daskol म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
daskol म्हणाले...

Ruthe Rendell, or Elmore Leonard or SM Stirling for that matter, can (should) be gulped. Murakami needs to be sipped, from stemware or a teacup with finger in the air.

Ralph L म्हणाले...

once I scrape away the layers of self-image and pretentiousness

Odd that those would be on top of pleasure, but then, he is writing in the NYT.

Henry म्हणाले...

I find myself reading in all the little pockets of time that were once reserved for...

I think there's something to that. I read on the train and at night before I go to sleep. I also work on the train. But I don't watch video or play games. That's 20 to 40 minutes of reading every day in three pockets of time.

Watching TV is something I do with my family a couple of nights a week. Do it alone and it will suck up your life.

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

I read and play at least 10 new pieces of classical and sacred music per week. A far better expenditure of time than reading books. Something happens in reality as a result of my reading. I create each piece for an audience.

Your type of reading, Althouse, which seems to me mainly focused on the idea that we should read to re-imagine the political and social reality of the world... well, I won't spend any time doing that.

I gave up that type of reading 45 years ago in favor of reading programming and tech manuals. And, I'm glad I did.

You seem to me to be obsessed with the idea that your intellect can reshape the world. Decades ago, I understood that. Now, I just wonder... why? Why do you want to do that? Why do you think that's a good thing?

Henry म्हणाले...

To be honest, most of my reading on the morning commute is The Athletic.

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

This is one of the books I've purchased recently.

Extremely useful.

Leland म्हणाले...

It doesn't produce flow.

You may have to define flow narrowly here, because I don't really understand why you can't get flow without reading. People binge watch favorite shows these days, which provides a flow. I seriously do enjoy audiobooks, which helps pass time while I commute and actually turns my commute into something to enjoy. Indeed, my favorite type of books are fictional series, such that I'm looking forward to next book.

So what is your meaning of flow?

daskol म्हणाले...

Does listening to books produce the same "flow" as reading? This is what has happened to me, while listening mostly to podcasts but the occasional attempt to use audible: I zone out at some point, and the people keep talking. When I'm reading and go into flow, I frequently go into a state where I'm seeing past the words, no longer reading but daydreaming. I think that's flow, at least for me. With a book, I can go back a page or just pick up where I left off, but the audio stuff just keeps going, leaving me behind.

Jamie म्हणाले...

I absolutely hate listening to books (or being forced to watch a video in order to "read" a story, be it news or fiction). Too slow. MUCH too slow. I've always binge-read, and if a book is not amenable to reading that way, I tend not to read it - which I know keeps me from reading some (but not all) Great Books. Yeah, yeah, I know the slow starters may well be worth the time it takes to become engrossed in them, but there are so very many faster starters...

I've also long thought that the emphasis on text analysis starting in third or fourth grade is why my kids don't read for pleasure. At no time in their lives has school suggested that pleasure is even ONE reason for reading a book, much less a primary reason. They loved reading before they had to "draw a text-to-self connection" or "name and provide examples of three literary devices the author uses to develop the main characters." Ugh. Let them actually enter the story, paint the pictures in their minds in as vivid color as they come, and voila, they'll become entranced with how the text connects to their lives and how clearly a metaphor illustrates a character trait compared with spelling it out.

wild chicken म्हणाले...

Huh. This is what I have been doing, unprompted, because I stopped reading books there for a year or so and I wasn't happy about it. Nothing is as satisfying as a book. Nothing goes as deep. I'll read four at once if I have to, to get it done.

I'm all nonfiction right now but I like fiction too. All on kindle though. I do need to switch to audio through because I am likely to be blind at 80.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

If internet style reading has deteriorated some of the mental skills and stamina needed to read the higher quality books, a person might be able to build themselves back up by starting with the fun books. After all, that's how we developed our reading minds the first time.

JAORE म्हणाले...

Books on tape, later CD, finally digital, are our preferred way of making long road trips palatable. Through the dull parts of the road side that is.

Leland म्हणाले...

Does listening to books produce the same "flow" as reading?

I'll admit to having been left behind in audiobooks, but there is the ability to rewind 30 seconds (or more). I've also had similar issues while reading books at night, when I can't concentrate on the plot. It is one reason I quit reading books to go to sleep. I actually find the best entertainment for putting me to sleep is to read, listen, or watch something I'm very familiar with and let the boredom kick in.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

In Era of Trump's America, books read you.

"The problem is you!"

That summarizes the wit and wisdom of the New York Times.

gilbar म्हणाले...

Then read longer! Read faster! The problem is you!"
"But the corollary to this way of reading — of taking books down in gulps rather than sips — is that you will discover much more quickly when a book isn’t for you, and you can then set it aside without the nagging suspicion that you might have sabotaged it by your method of ingestion...


Woody Allan did this with War and Peace; it was about Russia

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent म्हणाले...

He has a point. I used to read all kinds of improbable crap. Stacks of nearly random paperbacks from thrift stores. Anything that looked promising from browsing the stacks at the public library. Now I’m extremely picky about committing to a book. Maybe 1 in 15 that I start is read to completion. I tell myself it’s because I’m so literate and discerning but there’s no denying that my reading habits started to change during the years that I first had readily accessible Internet. The advent of the smart phone has almost eliminated passing-the-time (at the airport, waiting for the kids, etc.) book-reading for me.

Michael K म्हणाले...

So what is your meaning of flow?

I wrote a paper on Csikszentmihaly when I was getting my MS in Health Policy. His best example of flow was driving a car for most people. It combined mastery with pleasure in accomplishment. I'm not sure reading would qualify, except perhaps reading a Physics textbook. We were interested in how to structure work.

I read several books at a time. One on the outside patio which is currently The Campaigns of Napoleon. The previous one was Dreadnaught, as I have been reading about the First World War. In the car we have been listening to VD Hansen's The Case For Trump.

In the living room, I have a biography of Huey Long that I need to get back to. I read a Kindle in bed. All the fiction I read is on Kindle. I have just started Papadopoulis' book.

Books that I would stay up all night to read were the Tom Clancy novels when they first came out.

I almost never watch TV, football is about all.

narciso म्हणाले...

I read zamoychins tome of that war, in combination with war and peace, mostly the annotations.

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

The difficulty I see with long walks and audiobooks is losing your connection with the environment in which you are walking. That is a potential source of danger.

Kirk Parker म्हणाले...

Althouse,

"... because you've been reading screens and have developed a style of reading (searching, wandering, jumping about, writing) that is so completely different from what a book seems to want you to do to it?"

I simply do not buy this: the list of loooong books I read on my phone, after I first got a Kindle reader app for it, is... well..... long. I went on a free-classics binge, reading or re-reading Moby Dick, Lord Jim, Heart of Darkness, Under Western Eyes (a undeservedly-lesser-known work of Conrad), Life On The Mississippi, U.S. Grant's Memoirs, With Fire And Sword and The Deluge, Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, Ben Franklin's Autobiography, Kim and The Jungle Book and The Man Who Would Be King, The Prince, The Art Of War...

...not to mention a large variety of other works--paid, promo-reduced price, and promo-free--such as No Way In (Richard Fernandez), War Stories (50 Years in Medicine) from our very own Michael K;, Among the Believers (Naipaul), Submission, Camp Of The Saints, Kratman's entire Carrera Series, The Flame Trees Of Thika, The River War, The Story of the Malakand Field Force, CTRL ALT Revolt, several of the reissued There Shall Be Wars volumes, SJWs Always Lie, a bunch of Peter Grant (westerns if you can believe it, along with his sci-fi), Toxic Charity, Dead Aid, Voyage to Arcturus (dismal and terrible, even if it did inspire C.S. Lewis), Homage to Catelonia, The Road to Wigan Pier, Bloodlands, Taken/Resurrection/Into The Wasteland (Michael Totten)...

As long as it's running text the small screen is no problem--once you're used to it, it hardly matters how few paragraphs there are on the page, the page-turning becomes transparent. (Note: this might be an android-reader-only feature, as on this platform the page turns are virtually instant, with no silly fade-in/fade-out or flipping page animations.)

Totally missing from this list is any technical work, that might have graphs, charts, tables, schematic diagrams, computer source code, and the like where a small screen really is a deficit.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

Woody Allan did this with War and Peace; it was about Russia

Then, as someone who mostly faked his kiddie book reports, I'd say that is a rather misleading title.

Kevin म्हणाले...

Well, I read this, and it's 850 words. I'm good for today.

Kirk Parker म्हणाले...



Jamie,

"I absolutely hate listening to books (or being forced to watch a video in order to "read" a story, be it news or fiction). Too slow. MUCH too slow. "

No kidding! My first reaction, when someone sends or posts a link of some speech or talking-head thing, is to ask, "Where's the transcript?" If there isn't one, Life Is Too Short is my normal reaction.

On a related note (ref. your 'read' the story): am I the only one who greatly resents Facebook's new "Story" thing? Gack, those aren't stories, those are slide shows!

The Minnow Wrangler म्हणाले...

I have read voraciously for most of my life, mostly novels with dubious social value (Stephen King, Stuart Woods, Patricia Cornwell, etc.) The only time I didn't read was when I was taking some programming classes at a Community College and I was forced to read a lot of very boring technical material.

This temporarily ruined my appetite for any kind of reading at all and it took me a few years to recover.

I understand the appeal of audio recordings but my attention span is too short, my mind is always running ahead of the material being read out loud. I also have no patience for podcasts or videos. I like to read things fast and leave immediately if the topic doesn't hold my interest.

Kirk Parker म्हणाले...

Michael K.,

"Dreadnought is fabulous; my favorite part is actually the introductory chapter(s) about the last century of Her Majesty's Navy under sail. But all of it--the technical stuff, the personality stuff e.g. John "Jackie" Fischer, etc--is really good.

Interestingly, author Robert K Massie's specialty was actually the Romanov dynasty, so Dreadnought was actually a bit of a diversion for him. Despite my interest in Russia, I don't think I've ever read any of his Russia works... time to change that.

The Minnow Wrangler म्हणाले...

Now that I am back into reading again I really appreciate my local library's e-lending program. I can check out 4 or 5 books at a time for free. It is great. Reading on my Kindle helps to distract me from things I would otherwise spend time worrying about and lose sleep over. I frequently fall asleep while reading, and only wake up when my Kindle lands on my face.

WhoKnew म्हणाले...

I found the real key to reading the classics is to do it for no reason at all. Many years ago I wanted to read one of the latest best-sellers (E.L. Doctorow, I think) and when I got to the bookstore I balked at the price. While debating the purchase I saw Moby Dick on a rack of paperback classics for only 50 cents. So I bought that instead and loved it. I don't care what any one says, the first couple of chapters are hilarious. I've read it at least 8 time since then and except for the section where he compares whales to book sizes I can't imagine why it has a reputation for being boring. Well, actually I can. Most people have to read it for a literature class and that is a surefire way to ruin a book (I still can't read Charles Dickens and I blame on my 8th grade English teacher).Nothing ruins a book like being forced to analyze what it 'means'. I've never had to do that with Moby Dick, so I'm sure before my time is over I will read it another couple of times

William म्हणाले...

I too have noticed a dearth of tits in current movies and shows. GoT, in particular, which made its reputation by featuring a cornucopia of boobs has been very sparing in that department.....Boobs used to signify sexual liberation,and actresses used to be proud to show them. It demonstrated that they were free from the sexual repression of bourgeois society. Nowadays boobs signify the sexual exploitation that is so common in patriarchal societies so no more boobs......I thought GoT was a deep dive into the id, and you needed the occasional murdered child and rampant sexuality to dramatize its workings.

अनामित म्हणाले...

Dolnick is one of the NYT Sulzberger clankids, Sam Dolnick's brother.

He is also a nephew of the guy who wrote Memoirs of a Geisha.

Kirk Parker म्हणाले...

WhoNew,

You are spot on regarding the opening chapters of Moby. Consider:

"Again, I always go to sea as a sailor, because they make a point of paying me for my trouble, whereas they never pay passengers a single penny that I ever heard of. On the contrary, passengers themselves must pay. And there is all the difference in the world between paying and being paid. The act of paying is perhaps the most uncomfortable infliction that the two orchard thieves entailed upon us. But being paid,—what will compare with it? The urbane activity with which a man receives money is really marvellous, considering that we so earnestly believe money to be the root of all earthly ills, and that on no account can a monied man enter heaven. Ah! how cheerfully we consign ourselves to perdition!"

William,

Regarding the lack of boobs on current GoT: are you sure it isn't the result of Vox Day mocking George R R Martin by claiming the R's stand for "rape"?

Michael K म्हणाले...

I don't think I've ever read any of his Russia works... time to change that.

I have them, too. I just got his last Romanov book, about the finding of the bodies.

He has an amazing amount of writing in print.

I went back to Dreadnaught after reading a series of three Kindle novels about China, called "Earl's other son series" That's the first of three. Fisher and the other RN figures of Dreadnaught are characters.

wildswan म्हणाले...

I'm having trouble reading history (I think) because history is being made around me. The balance among the powers and among the social groups is shifting. A lot of history (history for example of revolutionary Russia and China or history of the rise of the British empire or histories of slavery) is trying to explain a situation that is passing away and so it won't stay in focus as I read. This idea of reading fast so as to get the point - in me what I am doing when I do that is trying to keep an archaic point in focus. Reading American history right now is as if I were reading a history of France in the middle of the French Revolution. But there are histories which shed light on the current situation. I'm reading slowly, Hubbards History of the Indian Wars in New England 1636 to 1676. And the history of American Communism in the Fifties - the Commies are behaving the same now - same arguments, same personal destruction, same indifference to the suffering imposed by their system. But we know they didn't believe any more by the Fifties. So does this crowd really believe? With a question, you can read without interacting at that moment.

Kirk Parker म्हणाले...

wildswan,

In that case, you should be reading NN Taleb, Richard Fernandez, perhaps VDH, and people like that. They are peering into the future (or looking at what is behind the present issues) more perceptively than their peers.

Michael K म्हणाले...

I read history, for example about WWI, to get away from the hysteria I see on facebook, or would on TV if I watched TV.

World War I made the world we live in right now. World War II was just a consequence. To a considerable degree, the American Civil War made the society we as American live in now. WWI was the European Civil War.

What we see around us in politics is determined by the history so many don't know.

The Jim Crow laws in the South after the war were determined in large part by the assassination of Lincoln. Blacks were making great progress after WWII until 1965, when it came to a screeching halt for most. The Great Society and Affirmative Action both have been near fatal for many blacks. To try to understand why, you have to try to understand history.

todd galle म्हणाले...

I read quite a bit, history mostly, and will often have several books going at the same time, easier when their different periods or locations. My wife also reads a heap, mostly fiction. She gets rid of her old books through the local library re-sale fund raising efforts, I keep mine. I've gotten to the point that I had to do a spreadsheet and catalog my books with the Dewey system. There is a 'lent to' listing too, I've lent and lost too many books. I think I've bought 7 copies of "Quartered Safe Out Here" through 3 different cover designs. Great for GMF's estate, not so much for me.

Kirk Parker म्हणाले...

wildswan,

Oh, and also reading Vox Day, but he's so utterly reprehensible and deplorable he had to leave the country! (Note for the clueless: one doesn't have to agree with someone in order to think they are offering reliable commentary on current events.)

RichardJohnson म्हणाले...

Jamie:
I've also long thought that the emphasis on text analysis starting in third or fourth grade is why my kids don't read for pleasure

WhoKnew:
Most people have to read it for a literature class and that is a surefire way to ruin a book (I still can't read Charles Dickens and I blame on my 8th grade English teacher)


Consider an author's opinion of teaching literary criticism to high school students.Substitute: Going to School with a Thousand Kids

Mrs. Kennett wasn’t to blame, though—she taught what the Language Arts Department at Lasswell High School told her to teach. And the Language Arts Department wasn’t to blame either—filling out analysis sheets about The Things They Carried was standard operating procedure at American high schools. The people to blame were educational theorists who thought that it was necessary for all students to do literary criticism. If you want unskilled readers to read, I thought, make them copy out an interesting sentence every day, and make them read aloud an interesting paragraph a day. Twenty minutes, tops. If you want them to take pleasure in longer works, fiction or nonfiction, let them read along with an audiobook. Don’t fiddle with deadly litcrit words like tone and mood. And don’t force them to read war books about shaking hands with corpses.

I would add that while I liked writing before I got to high school. using literary criticism as a vehicle to teach composition in my high school and college English classes had the consequence of my hating writing. It took me decades to get over that.

Michael K म्हणाले...

I've lent and lost too many books.

Me too. Especially to my kids.

mrsizer म्हणाले...

I quit reading about 15 years ago. I can't put a book down until I finish it and reading was interfering with sleeping. Then came Netflix. I have the same problem with stopping in the middle of a series. So, why not? I started reading again. According to GoodReads, 281 books last year.

Kindle Unlimited rocks!

As for flow and TV, get rid of the commercials! It costs an extra $2/month to have Hulu strip them out. Well worth it.

I've can barely remember reading words; third grade, maybe. I "watch" novels, I don't even see the words on the page once I get going. This is why I struggle to read out loud. Nonfiction is obviously different. I rarely read more than one book at a time.

Currently going through Paradise on Earth and I'm angry with my history teachers. All of that should be taught; I've barely heard of most of it.

todd galle म्हणाले...

Michael K,
I do wish that were the case with me and my spawn. I'm an historian, and my wife as well, my daughter an artist, my son a musician. They would never 'borrow' my books. It's history focused friends who are my nemesis. FYI: currently reading "Fatal Sunday" by Mark Lender and Garry Stone about the Battle of Monmouth. I don't necessarily like co-authorship, but these two have done a great job. Very interesting reading and a re-evaluation of General Lee, a view which I would have liked to have had when I was in the Park Service.

Michael K म्हणाले...

My son, Joe, hated school and did not graduate from college, the only one of my five who did not. He is now the book borrower.

When he was in 8th grade, he was assigned "Great Expectations" as the novel to read. I bought two copies and decided to read it with him. After two weeks, I was far ahead and gave up. He is a fireman and the only one who owns his home in CA.

He also borrows books ands forgets to return them. NOW he reads !

Michael K म्हणाले...

When you mentioned, "Fatal Sunday" by Mark Lender and Garry Stone about the Battle of Monmouth, I thought of The Monmouth Rebellion and the battle of Sedgemoor Have you ever read "Captain Blood" by Sabatini? That battle sets the scene for the story. Sabatini is very good on history, especially obscure Italian history.

I'm reading "Napoleon's Campaigns" and just finished reading about a series of battles involving locations in Sabatini's "Bellarion the Fortunate." The same towns.

roesch/voltaire म्हणाले...

Binge watching is just another form of how this materialistic society encourages us to be consumers--wake up bingers., To my mind too many books, poems, etc have been produced and so binge reading is the only way to read through the dross. But then I have been known to turn the pages quickly through some of the classics that seem to go on and on.

Michael K म्हणाले...

To my mind too many books, poems, etc have been produced

You must love Arab countries. Fewer books published in a century than a good year in the USA.

stlcdr म्हणाले...

"This article sponsored by Barnes & Noble".

FIDO म्हणाले...

I was stuck in a monsoon in Asia. The area was called a disaster zone. Water was about 3 feet deep or more in some streets.

The power went out for more than three days. Luckily, I had my Kindle™.

On it, I had 200+ books. It had an internal light which helped for lighting. The battery lasted for days! (According to their literature, it is 30 days, that that is at half an hour of reading a day with the light on the dimmest setting).

It was a nice vacation from the net and the noise. I enjoyed delving into books again, even if it was not 'proper paper' which some partakers of reality tv seem to disparage.

I highly recommend the Kindle™, which I believe is available through Amazon portals everywhere...

todd galle म्हणाले...

Michael K.,
HA! Sedgemoor and Monmouth (captured, tried and drawn and quartered), James II and William III! Mary and Anne (we'll forget George of Denmark)! That's my historical wheelhouse now, where I ended up after the financial fall in 2009. Went from Military History Curator, to Curator, History II at a Quaker site, with 17th Century attributes (easy to find if you do the google and that is my real name). I'm pretty up on most stuff from 1680 to 1720. When I retire I can fill in the rest. I'm now looking at the development of the Chancellery Court in that period, God help me.

अनामित म्हणाले...

I'll jump in w/o reading all the comments, 'cause I have to go historical-society-treasuring tonight. Can't get into audio books. I used to listen to Dick Estell on radio, especially when it was something like a Wright Bro or Lindbergh bio.

Read tons of scifi in high school (and some in high college too). The usual suspects.

20th c fiction (non combat-porn variety): Ambler, Barth, Burgess, Conrad, Nabokov, Updike--none in toto, but life is short and some of their works I have or will read more than once. I could name more, but I'd have to remember them. Not so strong on 19th c.

I've mentioned Kerr and Furst for historical fiction; of course there's O'Brien and his fiddlers, who may yet lead me back to Horatio Hornblower.

Good to see old David Chandler still attracting eyeballs: his CoN was the first serious hardback history book I bought with my own hard-earned money, special ordered from the old Blue and Gray Bookstore. $16 American IIRC. It helped me when I was able to do some touring east of Paris in 2017 (along with other and more modern sources).

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The militarism is just a hobby

Anthony म्हणाले...

I usually take 4-5 months to read a book, depending on its length. This is primarily due to a s**t-ton of academic reading in grad school 30-ish years ago, continued reading for research work, and more recently reading a ton of stuff -- mostly short essays and articles -- online. Just don't have the stomach to go read for pleasure much.

That said, since getting an iPad, I've delved into the old free literature, as others have mentioned above, along with more recent history-type books. That stuff I mostly read in bed for maybe 15-30 minutes while composing for sleep. Thus, it takes a long time to read something when I'm only reading in 5-10 page chunks at a time.

Bilwick म्हणाले...

I can go through my voluminous collection of Beeline adult novels in about two nights. But I'm always happy to begin again.

roesch/voltaire म्हणाले...

Sometimes less is more Michael K in any country

Kirk Parker म्हणाले...

RichardJohnson,

That's nothing compared to Robert Frost's response to the same kind of over-analysis.

अनामित म्हणाले...

Anthony says he can't read for pleasure: hell, I have never known a better reason!

I used to read in bed, even when I was a subteen and had to smuggle a flashlight so I could finish the Biggles book, or later the Bond book; older, I read before turning out the lamp but about twenty years ago just stopped doing that. Bedroom for sleeping.

I still manage (am compelled to) read several hours a day, and always have two or three underway. History (largely military-diplomatic), language (Bryson, McWhorter, Pinker), travel (Theroux, Raban, Thubron) . . .

So much left!

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Books were my earliest friends

Michael McNeil म्हणाले...

I read Kindle books on my iPhone when I'm out and about (which as someone noted above is adequate-sized for reading out in the field); when home though I'll read and watch my phone via an hdmi dongle connecting it to a big-screen tv located on the far side of my desk (I like it in iPhone vertical mode when using Kindle, so only the central swath of the tv is being used ). I also do most of my (non Kindle) computer work on my iPhone these days (using the foregoing tv auxiliary screen together with a full-size bluetooth keyboard) rather than a laptop. For spreadsheets, video and the like, of course, I'll show turn the phone so it displays horizontally (full screen) on the tv. (The iPhone's touch-screen itself in these cases becomes little more than a large mouse — with links!)

I've/We've also discovered how to get my best friends (at least my partner Ann in this case) to read my favorite books (and vice versa). Read them to her! So, from a position in front my desk tv, we daily, audibly, read (while both also following it visually) to each other. (I think) she and (certainly) I are really enjoying some great fiction books together that way (4 concurrently right now) — together with non-fiction such as (e.g.) excerpts from The Cambridge Medieval History (wonderful because every chapter is by a different historian!), Churchill's History of the English-Speaking Peoples, etc., et al.