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"Tony Evers 'not particularly encouraged' by chat with Scott Walker on vetoing GOP lame-duck bills."

The Wisconsin State Journal reports. It's interesting that they did meet and talk. When Evers first asked for the talk, I thought maybe it would be difficult for Walker to sit there with Evers face to face and justify cutting back the incoming governor's power.
Taking to the national airwaves on NBC's "Meet the Press," Evers said in an interview airing Sunday morning that he "communicated with Gov. Walker over the telephone a few days ago."
Oh! It was not face to face.
"I made that pitch, and he was noncommittal," Evers said. "I know publicly he has said in other arenas he plans to sign most of all of it. So I'm not particularly encouraged at this point in time. But it's around Scott Walker's legacy. He has the opportunity to change this and actually validate the will of the people that voted on Nov. 6."

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fivewheels म्हणाले...

Democrats want to lecture Scott Walker, of all people, about respecting the will of the people after an election? It's a good thing it wasn't face-to-face, because he'd deserve to be laughed in the face, or spit.

Incidentally, the will of the people also elected the legislators behind the bills.

rehajm म्हणाले...

For lefties history started yesterday, fivewheels.

roesch/voltaire म्हणाले...

Yes those on the left forget that Walker used the popular vote argument just eight years ago against the out going Democratic governor , but the Republicans are such hypocrites in their power grab they have no shame and know they can get away with it until the next election.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

roesch/voltaire said...the Republicans are such hypocrites in their power grab

It has been reported several times (here at least, but you seem to be a reader) that the people supposedly ignoring the will of the people in this "power grab" won their elections.

rehajm म्हणाले...

Has the recall election campaign started yet or is it considered bad form to start before the guy gets in office?

Leland म्हणाले...

This is the same Scott Walker that was recalled, because Democrats wouldn't accept the will of the people, and then won re-election. The same Scott Walker whose campaign staff was unlawfully prosecuted under the John Doe scandal, because Democrats wouldn't accept the will of the people. His legacy is fighting to do the will of the voters.

hawkeyedjb म्हणाले...

r/v, when criticizing political parties, it is best to avoid the accusation of hypocrisy. It is generally true but utterly worthless: both (all) political parties engage in gross hypocrisy, all the time. It is what makes them political parties. Political parties exist to garner power, not Emily Post approval points.

It's like accusing water of being wet.

WhoKnew म्हणाले...

I have no problem with a power rollback for the Wisconsin governor. I have thought the governor was too powerful since the days of Tommy Thompson. (The governor was too powerful before Tommy but I was too young to notice). So this is an overdue move. While the optics may be bad and the democrats will be squealing like stuck pigs, it is, in the end, the right thing to do. So I can live with legislatures doing the right thing, even if it is for suspect reasons.

Curious George म्हणाले...

C'mon you guys have been here long enough to know r/v is just a drive-by lefty hack.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Right, and if Walker helps the D's - they will turn around the help the R's in the same way, in the future.

LOL!

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent म्हणाले...

Nice to see some Republican hardball. I want a political environment where there are no triumphal progresses by any politician.

Unknown म्हणाले...

The will of the people lies in the governor

not in the duly elected house

Unknown म्हणाले...

The Arc of History is also working against any Republican

They should just give up now and save themselves a historical beating

rehajm म्हणाले...

The will of the people lies in the governor not in the duly elected house

In Massachusetts the governor is more of a constitutional monarch with no real power since the house can overwhelmingly override any veto. Voters apparently like this situation.

Massachusetts voters occasionally elect a 'Republican' governor to offset any appearance of impropriety. There was a streak of three consecutive house speakers being convicted felons so Massachusetts voters don't much mind the impropriety so much as the appearance of it.

Such is the strange will of the people in Massachusetts.

Curious George म्हणाले...

"Unknown said...
The will of the people lies in the governor

not in the duly elected house"

We don't have a "house" in Wisconsin. We have a Senate and an Assembly. The GOP didn't lose a seat in either.

Char Char Binks, Esq. म्हणाले...

The legislature and the governor are still in office, and still doing their job. Good for them!

rehajm म्हणाले...

lame-duck bills.

lame duck-bills.

roesch/voltaire म्हणाले...

The Wisconsin power grab is precisely the sort of anti-democratic move that their book describes. If it continues, Levitsky told me, “in the best case, it can leave us with a highly dysfunctional political system. And in less than the best case, democracies break down.” More drive by lefty hacks. And Curious some hypocrisies are worse than others, yours included.

Meade म्हणाले...

"We don't have a "house" in Wisconsin. We have a Senate and an Assembly. The GOP didn't lose a seat in either."

True and false. At the time of the 2018 election, in the Assembly, Republicans held 64 seats to Democrats' 35. After the election, Republicans control 63 seats to Democrats' 36.

In the state Senate, Republicans increased their majority from 18(R) - 15(D) to 19(R) - 14(D)

The majority (50.4%) of Wisconsin voters did not choose Tony Evers. He narrowly won a plurality with 49.6% to Walker's 48.5%

Meade म्हणाले...

In the 2010 election, Scott Walker won a strong majority of votes: 52.2%

And both chambers of the legislature flipped from Democrat control to Republican where they have since remained.

n.n म्हणाले...

Democrats want to abort the baby and have her too. It's a neat trick, if they can pull it off.

Meade म्हणाले...

roesch/voltaire said...
The Wisconsin power grab is precisely the sort of anti-democratic move that their book describes.
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Your own words, r/v?

Hammond X. Gritzkofe म्हणाले...

Methinks he is "validating the will of the people that voted" him and the majority of both houses of the Legislature into office.

What sort of "courage" did Evers hope to obtain from his chat with Gov. Walker?

iowan2 म्हणाले...

The power play is anti democratic

you say that like its a bad thing. The federal govt, and to much the same degree, Wisconsin State govt, is designed to be anti democratic. Democracy is a bad thing. The will of the people is expressed through those they elect to represent them. In this situation, the elected persons are acting within full accordance of the Wisconsin Constitution. The remedy, which you seek, is available to you and all of like minded people, is November of 2020. Good luck.

Jim at म्हणाले...

Will of the people = running off to other states and hiding

Right, R/V?

Michael S. Kochin म्हणाले...

Recall Evers!

Mountain Maven म्हणाले...

...rules used against them...

Diogenes of Sinope म्हणाले...

Screw Tony Evers.