Trump's tweet from 20 minutes ago:
Would be very SMART if Mexico would stop the Caravans long before they get to our Southern Border, or if originating countries would not let them form (it is a way they get certain people out of their country and dump in U.S. No longer). Dems created this problem. No crossings!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 25, 2018
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Mexico Merkel May Macron- losers trying to improve their lot with Trump snark. Does this work for anyone? Souter? I guess we know who Acosta is now...
Nobody is going to fight for us like this again.
I miss Trump already.
But that is their bargaining chip. Why would they want to give it up? What would they get in return?
Pleasing Trump does nothing for their people, he needs to offer them something.
Mr Ebrard's words seem to contradict US President Donald Trump's latest tweet.
No they don't. US President Donald Trump's latest tweet the BBC refers to doesn't say anything at all about any agreement.
Fake news is boring.
It was funny the UK fake news blamed the Paris violence on the "right" - "without any evidence" - but the French news blamed it on the left and provided reasons: Che posters, leftist slogans, etc.
And the Mexican factories offered these Visigoths jobs! They refuse to stay. How can anyone not see this for what it is?? WHY can't Trump direct intelligence agencies to follow the money to who paid for this and tweet the proof? WHY can't Trump or anyone call out and Magisky Act the oligarchs in El Sal and Hondoras. Those adminstrations should be plastered on the news being asked to resign. We should have Seal Team 6 liquidate the Presidents of those countries. Send in the Seals to go jihad on MS13 IN THE SHITHOLES themselves. This is what makes me believe there is a secret government behind ours that will only let evenna Trump go so far. These are such simple questions. But we're still talking about'immigration'not paid invasion.
these caravans are not marching - they are getting coordinated rides on buses and trucks.
Mexico would need to intervene in the ride share.
Trump tweeting in church this morning
I had to go look for some real reporting. Look at this: https://youtu.be/BFbiqlExkfo. (it's a YouTube by some amatuer dude Ami Horowitz "the truth about the caravan"). This is absolutely insane. But again, it's crazier that the reality isn't addressed. This is not an immigration question but third parties attacking us with Mexican help.
A wall certainly would be useful right about now. Wasn’t someone making a big deal about that 2 years ago? Now let me see, who was that?
And the third parties are our own friends and neighbors of the Democrat left - American citizens.
Our useless congress won't let the wall happen. with more left-o-crats in charge, forget the wall.
It seems like in all the discussions about illegal immigration from Central America, 4 countries are mentioned: Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala.
I never hear of illegals coming from Costa Rica, Panama, Belize or Nicaragua.
Part of it may be geography, though Belize shares a border with Mexico so it can't be that.
I am working in Costa Rica for 2 weeks and asked my contact, an engineer, about this at least with regard to Costa Rica. His answer was basically, there is not the need to emigrate. The country is in much better shape than the others economically. It is also politically stable and relatively low crime. In other words, and he did not say this, CR is not a shithole.
But, that also got him started on illegal immigration into Costa Rica. They have, he thinks, a major problem with illegal immigration from Nicaragua. He didn't seem to care much for Nicaraguans and he especially didn't care for them coming in illegally.
He also expressed concern about legal American (US) immigration into CR. Lots of retirees move here. Costs of living is low, it is a nice country and has a fair size ex-pat community. But, they tend to live in the nicer areas of the country and tend to drive prices, especially housing, prices up. He did mention that they also pay a lot of taxes while not consuming much infrastructure. They also do not take jobs, being mostly retired and some even create businesses and jobs.
So a mixed bag trade-off.
OT, but: in CR all the cars are stickshift (Or "clutch cars" as our ***** president called them). I asked my guy about this and he says automatic transmissions are rare because they cost a fortune to maintain. That doesn't make sense to me. I've had a 8-10 cars in the past 25 years that I've put 200m miles or more. Never had a problem with the tranny. I suggested perhaps taxes but he didn't seem to think so.
Any thought? Am I just lucky with my cars?
John Henry
Blogger J. Farmer said...
A wall certainly would be useful right about now. Wasn’t someone making a big deal about that 2 years ago? Now let me see, who was that?
Have you written your congressperson to ask them to fund it? Why not?
John Henry
Blogger J. Farmer said...”A wall certainly would be useful right about now.”
A lot of people build complicated arguments for why a wall is not needed. Most are “we need more democrat voters” types but some are sincere. They overthink the problem.
@Darkisland:
Have you written your congressperson to ask them to fund it? Why not?
I've advocated a wall for 15 years. Sadly, I am not the only person who lives in my Congressional district. But if I'm not mistaken, wasn't the President's own party in control of Congress the last two years? Does Trump have no leverage over Congress? How about taking that veto pen out of its shiny new wrapper and vetoing the bill that completely neutered the wall? And while we're on the topic of immigration, where's the executive order on anchor babies?
@Original Mike:
A lot of people build complicated arguments for why a wall is not needed. Most are “we need more democrat voters” types but some are sincere. They overthink the problem.
My favorite is, "Walls don't work." They just always forget to add "except everywhere they've ever been tried."
My favorite is, "Walls don't work."
If the wall wouldn't work, the Left wouldn't waste time and resources fighting it.
My favorite is, "Walls don't work."
Walls don't vote.
”If the wall wouldn't work, the Left wouldn't waste time and resources fighting it.”
Watch them dissemble when they are asked ‘So what if they don’t work? Why don’t you just give them the wall in order to protect the Dreamers (or some other of their immigration goals)?’ Their response is incoherent.
It's not just the illegal immigrants the left wants, they also want the issue in the news so they can beat up Republicans as racists.
My favorite is, “Mexico will pay.”
Not serious
Not literal
Laughable
There are reasonable arguments for and against allowing large scale immigration, but that is lawful immigration, and should be debated in Congress and the laws amended as indicated by the outcome of the debates.
What we see is anarchy instigated by the loony left - our own loony left - and does not bode well for the preservation of the Union. Of course, for them that is a feature, not a bug; they never have liked that restricting old Constitution.
This is a political battle Trump can't lose unless he just gives up, and he might not even lose if he gave up because the optics of it would be the Democrats welcoming this and future caravans with open arms.
The goal is and should be to have Mexico stop the caravans at Mexico's southern border- something much easier to do than maintaining a refugee camp in Tijuana.
Illegal immigration, refugee crises, mass emigration, labor arbitrage, redistributive change, planned parenthood, and anti-nativism.
Placing emigration reform front and center exposes immigration reform and social justice adventures to public scrutiny... baby steps.
Emigration reform, secured social justice adventures and wars, a good neighbor policy, and moderate immigration, reduce separation of parents and children, children in cages, refugee crises, human trafficking, redistributive change, and diversity, as well as direct and collateral damage at both ends of the bridge and throughout.
Nobody is going to fight for us like this again.
Emigration reform is good for Americans, and native populations at both ends of the bridge and throughout. Emigration reform is an environmental conservation, native voice, local employment, planned parenthood visibility, forward-looking, human-rights oriented, civil rights conservation imperative.
So Trump wants other countries to prevent their people from leaving?
Yes but Paul Ryan not McConnell were interested could give up the grishenko show though. Mexico was to pay through a border adjustment levy.
Some time soon, some shooting is going to start and that is the result of very stupid brinksmanship.
If opposing the wall worth the life of a single Mexican? Democrats...Lefties? Is opposing the Wall worth the death of Mexicans?
Because in case you don't recall, The Minute Men presaged Trump by almost two decades. This is not a 'Trump' problem. The issues have been raised on this for decades. You have a bunch of armed guys who are angry and looking for someone to take that out on. Whether they are morally right or wrong, this is the reality we are looking for...and if the military or the police try to make an example of them, things get much worse.
So obviously the Democrats seem to want to 'take it to the limit'. Why? Can they not function as a party without hordes of invaders voting for them? Is this such a critical principle that they will fight it to the last Mexican to uphold it? Is it that they aren't ALLOWED to step back from the brink? Do they want violence from the Right to come around so they can point fingers and sneer?
'And' tends to work in these situations. This is going in ugly directions.
So Trump wants other countries to prevent their people from leaving?
Does America have a 'no fly list' or not? Does it have border agents who check passports when you return to the country AND WHEN YOU LEAVE?
I have to applaud this as pitch perfect 'willful stupidity'.
It is a gift.
I do not even know if there are any laws restricting emigration from the United States.
The strife is about immigration into the United States.
(I think so few people ever want to leave this country - whatever their coloration - is why so many Americans are confused about the meaning of the words - emigrationsimply has never been a problem.)
I just remembered a dream I had last night. I had traveled to a foreign country and just realized I had left my passport at home.
Not so farfetched. This spring I shipped my telescope to New Zealand for use on a vacation. US customs allowed DHL to ship it to NZ without signing off on the required paperwork, which caused me much trouble when I tried to retreive it in NZ. Idiots.
Tell you what? Get an Amber alert done in your name and tell me how easy it is to leave the country.
If it is 'so easy', than taking an accused's passport is irrelevant. But everyone treats it as pretty serious.
I am guessing that a lot of Mexican vacations are getting cancelled right about now. That...has it's own pressure on Mexico.
Though Paris, London, Rome, and other places have always (since 1781) had American expatriate communities. Just read Hemingway, f. ex. Or note Expatish and John Henry hereon.
But still many smaller U.S. dictionaries do not even carry the word "emigrate" and its derivatives.
these caravans are not marching - they are getting coordinated rides on buses and trucks.
Shhh. Don't tell Freder.
Trump wants other nations to address the causes of excessive emigration (e.g. illegal immigration, refugee crises, redistributive and retributive change), and immigration reform (e.g. diversity, labor arbitrage, planned parenthood, democratic leverage) in our own nation.
well you have this,
https://saraacarter.com/border-patrol-concerned-migrants-might-rush-u-s-border-as-drug-cartels-find-new-routes/
also there was that botched ncis case, with the Syrian who was trying to smuggle persons through mexico, the bruhl-daniels matter with diya,
yes, this one:
https://www.stripes.com/news/us/ncis-agent-shared-classified-information-with-her-terrorist-suspect-lover-prosecutors-say-1.550092
Legalize drugs and cope with domestic dysfunction, and progressive health conditions, which we do anyway, or fight the perpetual war and cope with foreign dysfunction over there and here, too. Perhaps it is a case similar to vaccines, where the benefit, in certain circumstances, outweighs the risk. We can control substances sold to our children... at least until they sue for divorce.
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