Althouse: "Woman cradles and protects child. Man carries and protects both. This is how it ought to be, despite what your gender studies professor says."

৩০ আগস্ট, ২০১৭

"Woman cradles and protects child. Man carries and protects both. This is how it ought to be, despite what your gender studies professor says."

A tweet with that Harvey photo (which I'm sure you've seen) inspires (insufficiently) comic tweets.

৫৬টি মন্তব্য:

rhhardin বলেছেন...: I didn't realize the woman was Asian. That cuts down the weight a lot.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৬:৪৯ AM
rhhardin বলেছেন...: Max deals with large woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4r1TNJuRjc; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৬:৫৩ AM
Ann Althouse বলেছেন...: Yes, we love the photograph because the man is strong and handsome and the woman (even with the added weight of a baby) is not a heavy load.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৬:৫৮ AM
Steve বলেছেন...: I love that the infants name is Aiden Pham.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:০০ AM
Bob Boyd বলেছেন...: When the movie comes out the rescuer will be a trans woman SWAT officer and the rescuee will be a humbled Christian bigot.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:০২ AM
Michael The Magnificent বলেছেন...: All the feminists need to do to counter this photo is to tweet a photo of a woman carrying a man and his baby to safety. Good luck with that.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:০৯ AM
Oso Negro বলেছেন...: The comments of women about that photo were very telling. Even more so when another came out showing the same guy rescuing a dog.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:১৭ AM
Bay Area Guy বলেছেন...: At some point, pundits, politicians, pontificators and the public should re-learn 2 things:

1. The distinction between fact and opinion (the picture does show a woman cradling a baby, being carried by a man)

2. Not to get bent out of shape about someone's opinion ("this is how it ought to be")

The Left gets terribly upset when they hear opinions they don't like. They often freak out in response.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:২১ AM
MagicalPat বলেছেন...: There's that dang Male Privelege at work again!; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:২৮ AM
Oso Negro বলেছেন...: Another local favorite was this fellow from Texas City -

http://www.kptv.com/clip/13649024/man-with-boats-going-to-save-some-lives-after-hurricane-harvey; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:৩০ AM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: "Insufficiently comic" is a very charitable description. If culture wars are won on the meme front, the left is doomed. (I did laugh at annoying attention-whore tranny Brianna Wu's attempt, but it was a meta-laugh.); ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:৩৮ AM
Ralph L বলেছেন...: I was going to say, he got her little dog, too, but Oso N beat me to it.

I liked the U Loot, We Shoot Texans.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:৪৬ AM
sparrow বলেছেন...: Another example of feminist hypersensitivity that undermines more reasonable approaches.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৭:৫৫ AM
Lucien বলেছেন...: Did you see the size of that snail in the last photo at the link?!; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:০১ AM
ELC বলেছেন...: A couple of days ago, an FB friend of mine, a grandmother, posted her observations:

"Note on the flood rescue images: I see men together carrying another man. I see a man carrying a woman. I see a man carrying children. I see a woman carrying children. I see a man carrying a woman who is carrying a child. I do not see a woman carrying a man. I do not see a child carrying an adult. There is something to see here."; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:০৯ AM
CStanley বলেছেন...: I love how the person who posted the Scooby Doo picture (with Velma holding Shaggy and Scooby) didn't realize that photo was supposed to be humorous because it's so ridiculous.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:১৪ AM
Larry J বলেছেন...: I see people helping people (and pets!). From the federal government, we have FEMA, the Coast Guard, and other military assets. At the state level, we see the National Guard hard at work. At the local level, we see the police and fire department personnel. Behind the scenes, there are others such as the utility company workers doing their best to restore services. What I find especially interesting is the large number of ordinary people who're going out in their own boats to help others. There are not only a lot of good Texans doing this but also their neighbors to the east from the Cajun Navy. All of this is America at its best.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:১৫ AM
Anonymous বলেছেন...: Matt Walsh is basically right.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:৩৪ AM
iowan2 বলেছেন...: I guess its the way you are raised. The modeling you see, and reinforced by your parents. My family was taught you help using the skills and assets you have.
Here we have pics of men wading in flood waters, because its a good pic. But there are far more people giving aid with no pics. I have a high school friend that cant be trusted to take out the trash. For the last 3 or 4 days he has been living on 4 hours sleep, because he is a logistic savant. He is coordinating untold numbers of trucks and drivers, with warehouses, and moving emergency supplies into Texas. He is retired, so doing this gratis, because its what he does. We all use our assets to help. Most dont get the photo op; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:৩৫ AM
Jaq বলেছেন...: 8/30/17, 7:02 AM
Blogger Michael The Magnificent said...
All the feminists need to do to counter this photo is to tweet a photo of a woman carrying a man and his baby to safety. Good luck with that.

To be fair, they do have that screen cap from Scooby Doo.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:৪৫ AM
Hunter বলেছেন...: Might be insufficiently comic because they're just trying to ape another well-established meme that happens to be funnier.

Though the main problem is, as usual, that the left can't meme.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:৪৫ AM
Fernandinande বলেছেন...: Heartiste has a more interesting crop of the same incident.

The white guy is "rescuing" (the water is pretty shallow) the Asian woman and child while the Asian woman's husband rescues his red sneakers.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:৫১ AM
RBE বলেছেন...: Humans are hard wired biologically to see men in the role of the protectors of women and children. It is modern society that wants us to reject the natural biological roles for political purposes.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৮:৫৪ AM
Dust Bunny Queen বলেছেন...: I don't know about gender 'studies', but as a woman my first response to that photos is that:

I would want that handsome man to carry me too! It is genetically hardwired.

My second response is: What? are her legs broken? that water isn't very deep. Why does he even need to carry her. Maybe carry the child in case the clumsy woman falls down. But. Seriously. Why IS he carrying her.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৯:০০ AM
HoodlumDoodlum বলেছেন...: I demand equal representation for pictures of LGBTQQIP2SAA rescuers.
The cishet white male photojournalists in patriarchal red state Texas naturally only show the ugly people pretending to be noble, but we all know JUST AS MANY homosexual, transgender, etc, rescuers are out there. It's only white supremacy that prevents those pictures from being shown.

The important thing at a time like this is to remember we're all divided by identity. That's what the people need--lectures from the Left.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৯:০৮ AM
CStanley বলেছেন...: Nice photo, poor decision to politicize it IMO. Let the pictures say their thousand words.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৯:১৮ AM
CStanley বলেছেন...: @DBQ- having had to wade through flash floods, the terrain is very unpredictable. You can't tell where there might be a curb or hole that you could step in. Also, water moccasins.

If I had no choice I'd carry my baby through it as carefully as possible but if a guy was there to carry us I'd not give it a moment's hesitation.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৯:২১ AM
Dust Bunny Queen বলেছেন...: Also, water moccasins

Yikes. I know you don't mean the shoes! People forget about all the wildlife that will also be taking refuge from the rising flood waters.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৯:২৬ AM
D 2 বলেছেন...: Iowan2 makes a good point. There are good men and good women doing long hours of less photogenic stuff to help. Beds foodlines logistics toilets etc. Less risky stuff, true, but their efforts are praiseworthy. We all can serve a purpose in such emergencies - thank the men who do backbreaking work on boats, thank the women who set up 40 beds in the fire hall and try to keep order among chaos.
Usually it is the small minded who see differences in age race gender physical intellectual etc and set themselves up, like some sort of Procrustes, in demanding we all fit their vision. End up dividing us more, because then you need a degreed overseer.
Screw that. Every individual can bring something positive to the equation, but thats done by seeing their individual ability first, and not some fabricated group identity marker. You want the best individual for each of the jobs. Key word: individual. You dont want 20% from this described cohort.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৯:৩৪ AM
mockturtle বলেছেন...: But. Seriously. Why IS he carrying her.

So she won't get her feet wet. :-); ৩০/৮/১৭, ৯:৫৭ AM
MacMacConnell বলেছেন...: If I was that Asian man I'd be carrying my Callaways and FootJoys.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৯:৫৯ AM
MacMacConnell বলেছেন...: "Yes, we love the photograph because the man is strong and handsome and the woman (even with the added weight of a baby) is not a heavy load."

Yes that first forty pound bag of Sackcrete is never heavy, they get heavier during the day.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১০:০৯ AM
MacMacConnell বলেছেন...: "But. Seriously. Why IS he carrying her."

A. He's a gentleman.

B. Most likely you've never got a woman with child out of a high sided low draft boat in a foot and a half of moving water.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১০:১৯ AM
n.n বলেছেন...: এই মন্তব্যটি লেখক দ্বারা সরানো হয়েছে।; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১০:৩৬ AM
n.n বলেছেন...: Mother Nature's order.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১০:৩৬ AM
Dust Bunny Queen বলেছেন...: Most likely you've never got a woman with child out of a high sided low draft boat in a foot and a half of moving water.

No. But I have gotten myself out of a damaged drift boat in a similar situation, in an actual river, (Klamath)....and not in a city on what is obviously a paved road. Yes. The water "appears" to have somewhat of a current and there may be ditches that the woman is unaware of, so having someone who is familiar with the lay of the land (so to speak) is a good idea.

However, since she appears to be young, strong, wearing good boots and her husband seems to be up to saving his shoes too, I really don't see why she couldn't be walking as well. Whatever. Her choice and the choice of the rescuers.

Still, it makes a nice picture. The men and women who are working hard to save others deserve all the credit they can get.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১০:৫৯ AM
NorthOfTheOneOhOne বলেছেন...: Dust Bunny Queen said...

But. Seriously. Why IS he carrying her.

Easy! Quickest way to get her out of the boat.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১১:২৭ AM
Chris বলেছেন...: Can't remember where I saw it but another photo showed him placing her in a wheelchair.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১১:৩০ AM
Dust Bunny Queen বলেছেন...: But. Seriously. Why IS he carrying her.

Easy! Quickest way to get her out of the boat.

That would be lifting. :-P; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১১:৩১ AM
Earnest Prole বলেছেন...: Insufficiently comic? They're all hilarious.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১১:৩৩ AM
CStanley বলেছেন...: Also, water moccasins

Yikes. I know you don't mean the shoes! People forget about all the wildlife that will also be taking refuge from the rising flood waters.

That's right, also known as cottonmouths. Two of them swam past my sister and I once when we got stuck in a flash flood in New Orleans. I suspect the Houston bayous and canals also harbor them.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১১:৫৩ AM
NorthOfTheOneOhOne বলেছেন...: Dust Bunny Queen said...

That would be lifting. :-P

Ok, how about; quickest way to get her out of the boat an on to dry land so he can get back in the boat and get away before she finds something to bitch about?; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১১:৫৮ AM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil বলেছেন...: sparrow said...
Another example of feminist hypersensitivity that undermines more reasonable approaches.

8/30/17, 7:55 AM

How many of those feminists, trapped in a flooded house, would refuse to be carried out by a man, because of his "toxic masculinity?" Not that they would be grateful afterwards or anything like that.

Did anybody see the picture of the Cajun rescuer on the duck boat who had a Confederate flag painted on the side of the cabin? He might have offended some of the people he saved, but I doubt they caught sight of it and said, "I'm not getting on this racist boat! Just leave me where I am!"; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১২:০২ PM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil বলেছেন...: Dust Bunny Queen said...
Also, water moccasins

Yikes. I know you don't mean the shoes! People forget about all the wildlife that will also be taking refuge from the rising flood waters."

Yep. Also - floating balls of fire ants. How would you like to hit one of those while you're wading though the water? Not as bad as the water moccasins, I guess, but still pretty awful.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১২:০৯ PM
Rabel বলেছেন...: DBQ, the baby is strapped to the woman in a carrier. She couldn't have walked safely through the water without disconnecting so the guy just carried her.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১২:৫৯ PM
pious agnostic বলেছেন...: But. Seriously. Why IS he carrying her.

Maybe she's hurt.

Maybe she's exhausted.

Maybe she's terrified.

How about, lots of reasons.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১:১৫ PM
Big Mike বলেছেন...: Seriously. Why IS he carrying her.

@DBQ, if you can find the original clip from which this still image is excerpted, you'll see that he places her in a wheelchair when they reach dry land.

The first time I saw the picture it was labeled something along the lines of "toxic masculinity in action." A fair dig at the SJWs who have not demonstrated any interest in contributing to the rescue efforts. Where is Melissa Click? Where is Amanda Marcotte? Standing back and letting men take the risks and do the work.

For it's "Tommy this" an' "Tommy that"
And "Tommy 'ow's your soul? "
But it's "Thin red line of 'zeroes"
When the drums begin to roll

- Kipling

When the shit's on the fan blades the feminists look to men with testosterone to bail them out. Clean fan blades = toxic masculinity.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ১:৪৩ PM
MacMacConnell বলেছেন...: Trust me, the folks in Texas know about snakes taking high ground during heavy rains.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ২:৩৫ PM
Professional lady বলেছেন...: Why does anyone have to explain why he's carrying her? She's not struggling, so obviously they both thought it was a good idea given the situation.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ২:৩৫ PM
SukieTawdry বলেছেন...: Yes, we love the photograph because the man is strong and handsome and the woman (even with the added weight of a baby) is not a heavy load.

Not at all. My reaction was the same as it would be (and has been) to a picture of a fireman climbing down the ladder with someone slung over his shoulder. There are situations in which men are absolutely indispensable. Despite what your gender studies professor says.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ২:৫৮ PM
Oso Negro বলেছেন...: You want to see one powerful woman lift up a bunch of people?

Got it right here:

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-weather/hurricaneharvey/article/Video-of-woman-singing-gospel-in-to-displaced-12161927.php; ৩০/৮/১৭, ২:৫৯ PM
MacMacConnell বলেছেন...: Oso Negro
Thanks made my day. Brought back wonderful memories of my youth living in Mississippi. There was a Black country church across a deep creek from the golf course and when the singing began play would stop. It was Heaven.; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৩:১১ PM
mockturtle বলেছেন...: It was heaven

Yes. A glimpse, at least. Nice video, Oso. God bless her!; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৫:১০ PM
The Godfather বলেছেন...: The tweet that Althouse links to start this discussion begins, "A man made a sexist comment . . . ." I dispute that his comment was sexist. Sexism is defined (I just checked) as:

1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.

2. The belief that one gender is superior to the other, especially that men are superior to women.

(We could have an interesting discussion about the "especially" in both definitions, but I don't want to go there right now.)

The tweeted comment reflects neither discrimination against women nor a belief in male superiority. The comment may fairly be said to celebrate traditional male and female roles, but it does not argue or imply that women should be barred from performing rescues (discrimination) nor that protecting a child is less valuable than performing a rescue in a flood (male superiority).

The sooner we as a society get over the notion that recognizing differences between men and women is "sexist", the better off we will be (we = ALL of us, male and female).; ৩০/৮/১৭, ৯:১৭ PM
n.n বলেছেন...: You want to see one powerful woman lift up a bunch of people?

A different measure of heroism, specifically moral or morale.

As for women and men, equal and complementary, until Mother Nature changes her order.; ৩১/৮/১৭, ১:০৬ AM
PackerBronco বলেছেন...: Blogger Big Mike said...
Where is Melissa Click? ...
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No doubt calling for "some muscle over here" and you know she wasn't calling for women ...; ৩১/৮/১৭, ৮:২৪ AM